vitriol said:

^Of course!

Always a pleasure quarrelling with you...

^ likewise! we make a lot of progress this way, don't we? not to mention by now the other ORGers are no doubt watching us with true admiration as we settle our differences of opinions like adults......

V: "you're wrong!"

X: "no, you're wrong!"

V: "no, you are!"

X: "no, you are!"

(repeat, ad inifinitum)

Seeing as nobody killed themselves (Ooh careful, I said it) I reckon a nice romantic dinner for the pair of you is in order.

Yay, this song is tons of fun to listen to.

This is really Prince on all instruments (except the Eric Leeds overdubs)? Not that he couldn't do that--but those drums just really sound like Sheila to me.

Fonkyman said:

Seeing as nobody killed themselves (Ooh careful, I said it) I reckon a nice romantic dinner for the pair of you is in order.

vitriol and i love each other in a more of a kind of arms length sort of way

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At least a sense of humor is apparent on this thread...

XxAxX said:

Fonkyman said:

Seeing as nobody killed themselves (Ooh careful, I said it) I reckon a nice romantic dinner for the pair of you is in order.

vitriol and i love each other in a more of a kind of arms length sort of way

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I gathered.

Shall we move the chairs out a bit then and put out the candles. Cancel champagne from a glass, with chocolate handles.... Ok, ok...

databank said:

And now, all of a sudden, we have that situation with The Vault book with the authors being very vocal about how they disapprove,

Quoi? Have I missed something?

BartVanHemelen said:

databank said:

And now, all of a sudden, we have that situation with The Vault book with the authors being very vocal about how they disapprove,

Quoi? Have I missed something?

The Vault is now circulating as a PDF. The folks from Uptown are not pleased.

Fonkyman said:

XxAxX said:

vitriol and i love each other in a more of a kind of arms length sort of way

[Edited 10/17/12 18:12pm]

I gathered.

Shall we move the chairs out a bit then and put out the candles. Cancel champagne from a glass, with chocolate handles.... Ok, ok...

you know, i sometimes post stuff then realize later i fucked up. i've been a little too outspoken about how i feel regarding the leaks of unreleased material against the artist's preference. the whole 'all caps' thing on that 'superconductor about to leak thread' was over the top and i'm sorry i was so inflammatory there. that's all vitriol was really trying to say, and he was right about that part.

still, no champagne from a chocolate glass for the two of us

Back to the flesh........

I like it. Prince's music is as vast as the ocean.......

In fact I like this a lot and for some reason it brings back to memory what I was listening to this morning in the car, Dorothy Parker with the percussion. Same free vibe of pleasant unexpectation.

Wow...this is definately worth waiting for....better than what I expected...it's so inspired....

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ufoclub said:

The reason osme bootleg songs are kept away from public sharing is because the source would get in trouble or have their reputation possibly ruined.

It's similar to a film crew member showing his friends an outtake or rough cut of a movie he is part of (or was part of) but doens't want them to post it on youtube, because he would get in trouble with the film production company and then possible have a reputation of not being trustworthy to the pro film crowd.

no, that's the reason a very few of them do it. the reason the rest of them do it is for the reasons I outlined previously.

I know a few of them.

^Envious much?

vitriol said:

^Envious much?

sure, why not?

^And do you think insulting people who -for whatever reason- made it to 'elite' groups for the fucking sake of being fortunate enough to belong to them is actually the best way of ever getting to be a part of such?

You've been here long enough to know that is not the way.

vitriol said:

^And do you think insulting people who -for whatever reason- made it to 'elite' groups for the fucking sake of being fortunate enough to belong to them is actually the best way of ever getting to be a part of such?

You've been here long enough to know that is not the way.

I may be jealous of what they have, as we all are, but not to the point that I'm not looking to join their douchebag club.

what gave you the idea that THAT is what I'm jealous of?

^yourself.

vitriol said:

^yourself.

I'm not looking to join the super-secret cabal of people hanging on to this stuff.

I just want it out there for everyone.

They wouldn't want me in their club anyway. Because I'd be willing to share the material with anyone and everyone that was interested in it, since it doesn't belong to me or them in the first place.

^That's a somewhat noble way of thinking.

But if there's some stuff that for one reason or another CAN'T be out widely and I had to choose between having it but keeping it in secret or not having it at all there's no telling what my choice would be.

Different folks, different strokes.

vitriol said:

cute, meandering little tune. nothing earth-shattering, but a decent "new" track . wouldn't mind hearing more like this or something at least... lawd

vitriol said:

^That's a somewhat noble way of thinking.

But if there's some stuff that for one reason or another CAN'T be out widely and I had to choose between having it but keeping it in secret or not having it at all there's no telling what my choice would be.

Different folks, different strokes.

this bullshit honor amongst bootleg theives is laughable at best

Honour?

Bullshit?

It's just respect for something you've been given and asked not to forward.

I'm sure you would say 'no' if you were given unheard stuff provided that you kept it for yourself, of course...

But, in the end, what else could you say?

vitriol said:

Honour?

Bullshit?

It's just respect for something you've been given and asked not to forward.

I'm sure you would say 'no' if you were given unheard stuff provided that you kept it for yourself, of course...

But, in the end, what else could you say?

Not everyone with unreleased material are held to those agreements. Dont act like there's not a certain faction that is just keeping things in some semblance of stinginess. Dont even.

Yes there are others that have a connection to have respect for the wishes of the now deceased, to those where legal aspects may come into play, and some where a reelase could be traced to only a specific source, thus jeapordizing their standing legally or comradery wise within whatever

but not everyone hoss..not everyone

And if someone has some uncirculated material of any kind, by which law of nature should he give it to you instead of using it to trade for more uncirculating stuff?

Since there's stuff that most probably will never see the light for fans at large to enjoy the only way to get it is trading it for more restricted stuff... or even PAYing for it.

And if someone's willing to pay to get hold of some stuff he otherwise wouldn't be able to hear in his entire life why should he give it to you in exchange for nothing?

Remember that for some people what's really interesting is to hear more and more stuff they had never heard, not having their asses kissed by 'grateful' fans.

vitriol said:

And if someone has some uncirculated material of any kind, by which law of nature should he give it to you instead of using it to trade for more uncirculating stuff?

Since there's stuff that most probably will never see the light for fans at large to enjoy the only way to get it is trading it for more restricted stuff... or even PAYing for it.

And if someone's willing to pay to get hold of some stuff he otherwise wouldn't be able to hear in his entire life why should he give it to you in exchange for nothing?

Well I guess they shouldn't.

How muh I have to pay for 17 Days long version?

I can't help you on that one: I don't sell stuff or know of anyone who does.

XxAxX said:

Fonkyman said:

Seeing as nobody killed themselves (Ooh careful, I said it) I reckon a nice romantic dinner for the pair of you is in order.

vitriol and i love each other in a more of a kind of arms length sort of way

[Edited 10/17/12 18:12pm]

The sexual tension between these two is electric. You just know that they'd be indulging in a reacharound under the table.

errant said:

these covert traders who keep a stockpile of stuff that they don't want to share with everyone are a really bizarre bunch. I'm not really sure what the purpose of it is, other than to say "Oh, I heard/have this, and you don't, and if you suck my balls really good, I might let you hear a 30 second snippet of it to prove how utterly superior to you I am as a fan and insider."

buncha fucking douchebags. I hope someone hacks into all their hard drives and spreads whatever they've got all over the internet.

Well, i've been sucking balls for years and still haven't get to listen to ANY uncirculating stuff. Not even a snippet. So, either i don't suck balls properly (which is possible since i'm not a "professionnal" sucker) or that's not the way things work.

More seriously, i think it's mainly about trading. If you have rare stuff, then you can trade with elite traders to get some fresh uncirculating tracks from Prince. If you don't, then don't expect to get anything. That's simple.

Besides, i've been willing to pay big money to get some rare stuff (like the complete version of Cosmic Day) but i've always been replied that it wasn't a matter of money. So, either this assertion is true, or i didn't knock on the right door.

Just my clue.