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New topic PrintableI agree with Questlove. Sometimes I think I am more worried about his legacy than Prince himself. | |
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I mean his old music and persona is weird (much of it, at least), and it always will be. My Legacy
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Prince knows what he is doing. He is a good business man. He is just waiting 4 all the cards to fall in2 place. When they do. It will be worth the wait. Xciting thangs are coming soon....Just be patient & all of u will be biting ur wicked tongues. The purple yoda is full of surprises.. will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. | |
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I'd love for Prince to embrace Youtube and release remasters of his and Associated Artists material, but I'll always respect an Artist's right to do what he or she wants with their art.
I think this whole "woe is Prince's legacy" thing is overblown.
He's still one of the most respected and beloved artists in history.
He can still sell out arenas.
Whenever he goes on TV, he always gets a gigantic ovation.
Does really it matter if a bunch of dumb, punk teenagers aren't familiar with his work? [Edited 8/18/12 16:31pm] JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!! | |
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Prince hasn't become destitute or been ensconced in some tabloid drama with potential jail time. Sly Stone lives in a van and his fanbase isn't crying about his legacy. There are artists who are far worse off and they aren't coming back from their downward spirals anytime soon, if at all. Whitney & MJ both died under a cloud of speculation on their lives, drugs and debt. We don't see their legacies as being in jeopardy. Prince is still churning out music, touring, has his wits about him, still bags hot women, seems to be able to live a more than comfortable lifestyle and has managed to dodge the Hollywood bullets most stars take to the chest. How is his legacy in jeopardy? When go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all up in the house but when log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming! | |
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will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. | |
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I'm not sure it's wise to take a semi-literate blog post as gospel but I have read similar observations around here pretty often.
My feeling is that it's Prince's responsibility to worry about his legacy, not mine. He knows that he could get more exposure through various online media/remasters, etc., but for whatever reason has chosen not to go that route...I'm past caring about his reasons quite frankly, 'cause I'm here to tell ya, there's something else...MY life,
For all I know he might buy himself an island, retire and never be heard from again so it seems kinda silly to waste too much time whining about things that may never come to pass. Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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I sure as hell ain't worried about it, Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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I think some of you are missing the point of what Questlove is saying. And for the most part he is spot on. Let us consider people like Elvis and Jimi Hendrix for a moment. They have, of course, been dead for years. Yet their legacy lives on and todays generation of young music lovers are discovering the music of these two icons because there is several mediums for these kids to discover it. I work with alot of teenagers in my profession and often we talk about music. Virtually all these kids know who Elvis is. They know who Jimi Hendrix is. They have heard his music. Some of them love his music. But ask them if they like any Prince music...and often you get one of two responses. One being "who is Prince?" and the other being "Oh that guy who pulls his stuff off Youtube?"
Ultimately I think what Questlove is trying to press, is that Prince is a music icon right up there with the likes of Elvis and Hendrix. Prince has a reputation for being at the forefront of innovation in the 1980s, and certainly for the 1980s period, you would be hard pressed to find anybody who would disagree with the assertion that Michael Jackson, Prince and Bruce Springsteen are the three male icons who led the charge in the 80s music scene, just as Hendrix and Elvis did in the 60s and 70s.
There is this strange irony when Prince in recent years has often preached that kids should discover "real music by real musicians" for which one would assume Prince would catagorize himself as being a real musician, and yet in the next breath, he goes on an internet rampage preventing those very kids from discovering his "real music". The sad fact of the matter is, whether people like it or not, Prince is a hypocrite in many ways when it comes to enjoying a love of music. He has demonstrated this many times over, including his admission for disliking people covering his songs......and then before you know it, hes playing Coachella and dishing out a version of Radioheads Creep. Did you hear Radiohead complaining? No. Do you know why? Because Radiohead undoubtedly have the smarts to realise that at that performance, there would have been hundreds if not thousands of Prince fans at that show, who went home and had a look at "that band who originally recorded that song Creep that Prince played tonight". From that, Radiohead would have undoubtedly sold records, simply from Prince putting their song in his set list.
Prince seems to have the attidude that is there is no $$$ coming to him directly from his music, then people dont have a right to hear it. However he has of course forgotten that sometimes music sales come from a more indirect source, and that is your songs being played elsewhere, which spikes a persons interest. Youtube and other bands are two such forms of indirect sources. [Edited 8/18/12 21:47pm] | |
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A good amount of the 80s CDs were masted terribly and are in desperate need of a remaster, however the vast majority of the remasters being made today sound even worse. I'm kinda nervous about what would happen if they did go through. | |
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considering FDeluxe changed their name and did a project sans Prince how exactly are they banking on Princes name? | |
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I'm not slamming the religion - I'm slamming what Prince has done with it in regards to his music. | |
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We're all bones when we're dead. This is a man who has said, "life is death without adventure, and adventure only comes to those who are willing to be daring and take chances."
Only a person who does not worry about his legacy can live and create without fear and take chances as he has.
I sincerely believe he doesn't care about "his legacy" - and certainly much less than some of his fans do.
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I'm glad Questlove had the nerve and audacity to say anything. I'm so damn sick of people sticking their heads in the sand, too afraid to call Prince on this bullshit because it might displease his fading royal hiney.
For those that don't think he's destroying his legacy...
This website is a perfect example of how Prince's bullshit is beyond ridiculous. This website is an online Prince fan community and yet there is not a damn thing on here that shows WHY there was the need for an online Prince fan community in the first place.
Just google his name, the results that actually have anything to do with him are getting smaller by the day. At this rate, pretty soon the only people that remember Prince at all, will be the likes of us and once we all stop caring, that'll be that.
Until of course the unfortunate happens, then as usual there will be the standard renewal of interest and peaks in sales but once WB and the other vultures stop picking his carcass for whatever else they can get, that'll fade too and Prince will be nothing more than a memory that us old people tell to our uninterested great grandkids that visit us every purple moon.
Speaking as someone that has greatly admired Prince, I think for someone that has accomplished as much as he has that is going to be a motherfucking shame! [Edited 8/19/12 1:51am] I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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good point Quest! thanks for bringing this up.. the YT clip with P and Whitney, is just a great example on music-history at its best ! so great to see those two 80' dinosaurs together ! something that music-lovers will truly appreciate in the future !
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I just think that Prince only cares about making/playing good music. I don't think he cares about gaining fans & world domination. He just wants to make good music & be surrounded by good people and if his music makes you happy than that's all that matters to him. He's been in the industry for so long now he doesn't need to create a website or show his music. He probably wants to keep it to himself because he's worked so hard to create it, and there's so much recycled music out there and websites like youtube which are giving it to you for free, then we won't really grasp the value of it. You'll just watch it then once you had enough you'll click onto the next video..whereas Prince has always been about enjoying the album as a whole & letting it open your imagination and freedom to make of it what you will. Besides, we all know the REAL fans already have most of his video's, songs & albums anyway..
Peace in the House of Prince. | |
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people dont have a right to hear it.
People have a right to hear P just wants people to pay for it. I think the recent news concerning his publishing deal ending with Universal may signal some changes but just because people cannot have your work free does not mean your legacy is in jepordy.
P is not Whitney Houston or MJ. | |
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Very true.
It's probably just my own fear of an hysterical Prince media circus that doesn't reflect what his music is and his fans feel.
next to that, I really don't like to speculate or talk about that subject. I'm grateful he's healthy and seemingly in a good place in his life.
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As far as I know, Prince is a well respected musician.
Everytime examples of great influential musicians are named, the list starts with Prince.
Ofcourse, I now only share how wel respected he is by Dutch media, however, I think he's that respected all over the world.
He is respected for his music, and also for staying out of the fame drama. He never sought the attention of media, made an effort of avoiding getting trapped in that sleeze and dirt Hollywood carrousel. Because of that he's viewed as a musician and not as just another famous person.
Somebody mentioned the different of viewing it from a fans perspective or a business perspective, and I think that is an interesting point.
Because, when I enjoyed Prince the most, was at concerts when I got the impression Prince enjoyed himself a lot. As a fan, therefore, I would want Prince to do whatever makes him feel good, because that's when he's providing his fans with great concerts!
And I got the impression that Prince likes playing the guitar, likes to sing and loves to impress his audiance. Not only for himself, I get the idea he also cares about his audiance having a great night. I don't know if he realizes how much money it is to spend on his concerts, for a normal human being, however, I do think that he realizes it's not small change for most people and he does feel the responsibility for making sure they will remember it as a great night. So, if he likes to play for huge stadiums, I hope he will do that forever.
However, when that is just a day job, and he actually likes playing smaller clubs and jam around with other musicians, than, naturally, I would hope he would do that.
I don't know how well of Prince is now. And I don't know how much money he needs to be happy and feels financially secure enough to do whatever makes him happy and not care about making more money.
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I gotta call complete bullshit on some of you. Talk about feeling entitled. Talk about being self centered. Its all about you and your enjoyment. "Calling it "knowledge" doesn't change anything.
Prince makes a living in the music industry as fucked as it may be. It may very well be a losing proposition he is engaged in, but I respect it. I would be pissed too, irate even if I heard it put as assholy as above. You enjoy someones work support it by purchasing not biching and lamenting why you can't have him roll over to your wants and whims. Complete bullshit. It's his work and his legacy will outlive today, you and everyone, there is no rush. Prince has time. The world does not revolve around you and this generation.Right or wrong, Prince is fighting for what he thinks is just. Hard to make a case that he is wrong on this. This generation is not the me all and end all of anything. Life goes on and Prince's music will outlive us all. His legacy is only going to grow stronger and there is nothing that is going to change that. Certainly not motherfucking Youtube. [Edited 8/19/12 7:42am] | |
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I wonder what Prince his perspective is on that.
Does he care about the numbers of tickets he sells, the money he makes, or is it more important to him to enjoy himself by making music and perform?
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Paul McCartney is known for his wealth and infamous for his miserliness. I don't believe anything that man says about caring for other people. He only cares for his bank account.
Very sad.
I truly hope Prince will not end up as the money-grubber McCarney.
I hope Prince, in the end, cares more about music than money.
I like what my grandfather said about money;
A dog would not pay attention to a moneybill, because he can't live of it. A dog understands what is important in life.
And I like to add to that, that dogs don't turn their head for a money bill or coin, they do respond to music.
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True. One of the reasons I love him.
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ouldn't give him ownership of his masters so why would he be messing up his legacy after going through all of that in the fisrt place
The reason he left Wb in the first place was because they wouldn't give him ownership of his masters. So how could he be messing up his legacy now? Doesn't make since. He is just playing the waiting game. Now he has started getting them back. So the cards are in his favor now.Its just the fans that are being impatient now. He knows what he is doing.He is not giving up control to YouTube, until he can reap all the benefits from his "MasterPieces". I don't blame him for that.
?uest makes since. But Prince controls everything now.He is a independent artist, That takes time to map out everything. With the publishing contract expired now That means he is up to something. It already has been hints thrown out by his beautiful manager Kiran. will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. | |
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They exchanged publicly stupid convo with Prince via Music. We all thought it was funny and exciting, but Prince literally told them to go to hell.
It was the joke with Maynard's lingo. Prince I will always miss and love U. | |
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KCOOLMUZIQ said: The reason he left Wb in the first place was because they wouldn't give him ownership of his masters. No it isn't. That's what he started bitching about after he spent all the money he got from the biggest contract in history and they stopped letting him have his way and stopped catering to his every whim. If ownership of his masters was that important to him, it would have been in the terms of that last contract. Metallica and R.E.M. were able to do it around the same time. At the very least it should have been the thrust of his re-negotiations in early 1996 when they let him out of it, instead of complaining about it after the fact. Leaving WB is probably the the single-most relevant factor to him not currently owning his masters. | |
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Kiran would not still have her job if she would be venting everything she knows, would she?
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The wb was not going to give Prince his Masters back in his negotiations in letting him out that contract. True! that is the reason they let him out in the first place so they can keep them.But even if he stayed with them they still wouldn't have given them to him. He said they told him they wouldn't give them to him if he gave them a billion dollars..So why would he want to stay there?
Don't blame Prince on what those gready record companies do & rob artist of their rights.... will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. | |
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