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Thread started 08/09/12 6:30pm

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Complex: 50 Unreleased Albums We'd Kill To Hear (Prince at #8)

8. Prince <em>Dream Factory</em>

8. Prince Dream Factory

Planned Release Date: 1986

Reason It Was Shelved: Dream Factory would have been the first Prince and The Revolution albums to have had the entire band in the studio during production. By June of 1986, Dream Factory became a 19-track double album and after The Revolution ended later that year, tracks slated for the album were featured on Prince's Sign O' The Times project instead.

Why We'd Kill To Hear It: How can Prince and The Revolution make an album more epic than Purple Rain? Let's start by putting on twice as many tracks and inviting the whole band in the studio. It's unfortunate that the pieces never came together to finish the album, but carryover tracks like "Sign 'O' The Times" and "I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man" showed us we could've had another masterpiece on our hands.


http://www.complex.com/mu...am-factory

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Reply #1 posted 08/09/12 7:49pm

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What a stupid list..

At number 4 they have Kurk Cobain, and here's the write-up on it.

Lets make up rumours and ad it to the list!

4. Kurt Cobain's Solo Album

Planned Release Date: N/A

Reason It Was Shelved: There are sources disputing whether or not Cobain actually recorded material for a solo album. Unfortunately, we'll never know since the Nirvana frontman took his own life in 1994.

Why We'd Kill To Hear It: Because he was the defining voice of Generation X. Because Nevermind is one of the greatest albums of all time. Because few singers could hold a candle to his songwriting talent. Any questions?

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Reply #2 posted 08/10/12 1:29am

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smoothcriminal12 said:

8. Prince <em>Dream Factory</em>

8. Prince Dream Factory

Planned Release Date: 1986

Reason It Was Shelved: Dream Factory would have been the first Prince and The Revolution albums to have had the entire band in the studio during production. By June of 1986, Dream Factory became a 19-track double album and after The Revolution ended later that year, tracks slated for the album were featured on Prince's Sign O' The Times project instead.

Why We'd Kill To Hear It: How can Prince and The Revolution make an album more epic than Purple Rain? Let's start by putting on twice as many tracks and inviting the whole band in the studio. It's unfortunate that the pieces never came together to finish the album, but carryover tracks like "Sign 'O' The Times" and "I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man" showed us we could've had another masterpiece on our hands.


http://www.complex.com/mu...am-factory

Factually inaccurate: many songs featured no input by The Revolution (and indeed ended-up on SOTT).

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Reply #3 posted 08/10/12 2:12am

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Reply #4 posted 08/10/12 5:59am

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luv4u said:

http://www.princevault.co...am_Factory

I think you meant to post this link http://www.princevault.co...am_Factory

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Reply #5 posted 08/10/12 7:39am

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uh, those albums are OUT THERE for everybody to hear

Dream Factory is ok, not great, I mean, the best tracks were the SOTT tracks, so...

and that top10 is..ugh, nevermind

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Reply #6 posted 08/10/12 3:58pm

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TheDigitalGardener said:

luv4u said:

http://www.princevault.co...am_Factory

I think you meant to post this link http://www.princevault.co...am_Factory

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Yes I did. Thank you. smile

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Reply #7 posted 08/13/12 11:03am

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JoeTyler said:

uh, those albums are OUT THERE for everybody to hear

Dream Factory is ok, not great, I mean, the best tracks were the SOTT tracks, so...

and that top10 is..ugh, nevermind

yeahthat Nobody at Complex Magazine has access to Google apparently... shrug

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Reply #8 posted 08/13/12 2:38pm

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Roadhouse Garden is the real unreleased classic...

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Reply #9 posted 08/14/12 8:26am

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Dandroppedadime said:

Roadhouse Garden is the real unreleased classic...

EXACTLY!!!!

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Reply #10 posted 08/14/12 9:45am

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How do you know, other than the handful of tracks compiled for it?! He could've butchered them and stuck 98/99 era beats under everything *shudder* razz

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Reply #11 posted 08/14/12 11:04am

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JoeTyler said:

uh, those albums are OUT THERE for everybody to hear

Dream Factory is ok, not great, I mean, the best tracks were the SOTT tracks, so...

and that top10 is..ugh, nevermind

It would depend on the set list, we still don't know what the final list would be & bsides

Also the 'album' isn't officially out there, for the 1st reason I mentioned. And 2nd no complete Dream Factory era for us to 'hear & see' no credits not cover photo no inner sleave info pics no videos no long versions etc etc

I don't think the best all got put on the SOTT album,

but it's crazy because there are so many 1985/86 outtakes of unreleased songs that we don't know what they were planned for:Go Adonis & Bathsheba, Crucial, Splash Wonderful Ass etc

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Reply #12 posted 08/14/12 11:12am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

JoeTyler said:

uh, those albums are OUT THERE for everybody to hear

Dream Factory is ok, not great, I mean, the best tracks were the SOTT tracks, so...

and that top10 is..ugh, nevermind

It would depend on the set list, we still don't know what the final list would be & bsides

Also the 'album' isn't officially out there, for the 1st reason I mentioned. And 2nd no complete Dream Factory era for us to 'hear & see' no credits not cover photo no inner sleave info pics no videos no long versions etc etc

I don't think the best all got put on the SOTT album,

but it's crazy because there are so many 1985/86 outtakes of unreleased songs that we don't know what they were planned for:Go Adonis & Bathsheba, Crucial, Splash Wonderful Ass etc

Crucial and Splash are released meanwhile & you know this!

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Reply #13 posted 08/14/12 11:12am

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Wildboy said:

Dandroppedadime said:

Roadhouse Garden is the real unreleased classic...

EXACTLY!!!!

I just say there are many unreleased classics from that 1984-1986 period.

Just out of that time alone he/they could have released no less than 5 album

Dream Factory, Camille, Roadhouse Garden, "Junk Music"/the Flesh session, Wendy had talked about Sometimes It Snows in April and alot of music they were recording like that(accoustic feel) etc

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Reply #14 posted 08/14/12 11:14am

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OzlemUcucu said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

It would depend on the set list, we still don't know what the final list would be & bsides

Also the 'album' isn't officially out there, for the 1st reason I mentioned. And 2nd no complete Dream Factory era for us to 'hear & see' no credits not cover photo no inner sleave info pics no videos no long versions etc etc

I don't think the best all got put on the SOTT album,

but it's crazy because there are so many 1985/86 outtakes of unreleased songs that we don't know what they were planned for:Go Adonis & Bathsheba, Crucial, Splash Wonderful Ass etc

Crucial and Splash are released meanwhile & you know this!

Right but not on official albums

Splash & Rebirth of the Flesh (Camille Project) were internet releases?

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Reply #15 posted 08/14/12 11:17am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

OzlemUcucu said:

Crucial and Splash are released meanwhile & you know this!

Right but not on official albums

so was Rebirth of the Flesh (Camille Project)

Of course it is. A released track is official and Chrystal Ball is official. Anything he streamed online is official. He changed his mind years later and released those bootlegs. he may release rebirth of the flesh officially this yaer with the NPG put your hands up chant. lol

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Reply #16 posted 08/14/12 11:20am

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OzlemUcucu said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Right but not on official albums

so was Rebirth of the Flesh (Camille Project)

Of course it is. A released track is official and Chrystal Ball is official. Anything he streamed online is official. He changed his mind years later and released those bootlegs. he may release rebirth of the flesh officially this yaer with the NPG put your hands up chant. lol

I didn't say they weren't official releases

I said not on offical albums,

since they were made in 85/86 not the year he released them

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Reply #17 posted 08/14/12 11:25am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

OzlemUcucu said:

Of course it is. A released track is official and Chrystal Ball is official. Anything he streamed online is official. He changed his mind years later and released those bootlegs. he may release rebirth of the flesh officially this yaer with the NPG put your hands up chant. lol

I didn't say they weren't official releases

I said not on offical albums,

since they were made in 85/86 not the year he released them

How was he supposed to have released so many albums to fit all those songs in? It's nearly impossible to release every damn impro song he created since he's a genuis anyway. If so, he'd have released 150 albums by now qualifying him in the Guiness Book of Records.

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Reply #18 posted 08/14/12 11:33am

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OzlemUcucu said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I didn't say they weren't official releases

I said not on offical albums,

since they were made in 85/86 not the year he released them

How was he supposed to have released so many albums to fit all those songs in? It's nearly impossible to release every damn impro song he created since he's a genuis anyway. If so, he'd have released 150 albums by now qualifying him in the Guiness Book of Records.

lol

[Edited 8/14/12 11:27am]

I'm just saying there was so much music created then that no less than 5 albums could have been put 2gether in that 1 year alone

I know it would be impossible to release all of it lol

I mean its a craps shoot on what would could have been released at any given time then

anyone one of those songs could have ended up on an album, as a B side or on a protege album

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NouveauDance said:

How do you know, other than the handful of tracks compiled for it?! He could've butchered them and stuck 98/99 era beats under everything *shudder* razz

This is definitely a possibility for a 99' config, however I thought we were talking about the original idea for a purple rain 2 esque album circa 85'

And for future reference, a hanful of tracks from 84-85 are better then cherry picked tracks from the last ten years razz

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Reply #20 posted 08/14/12 3:58pm

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Wildboy said:

Dandroppedadime said:

Roadhouse Garden is the real unreleased classic...

EXACTLY!!!!

Well while Dream Factory is a great album (its been compiled over and over again I dont care if it is not official), Roadhouse Garden seems...alot whimsical and magical-like ..just trcks like RG, OD and Splash have very pop and psychedelic sounds. Yeah id kill to hear that album in full...but apparently it is Wendy & Lisas fault for not being religious that it is not released lol until stated otherwise.

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Reply #21 posted 08/15/12 7:08am

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Wildboy said:

NouveauDance said:

How do you know, other than the handful of tracks compiled for it?! He could've butchered them and stuck 98/99 era beats under everything *shudder* razz

This is definitely a possibility for a 99' config, however I thought we were talking about the original idea for a purple rain 2 esque album circa 85'

What original idea for a PR2 esque album circa '85?

Roadhouse Garden as an album or project didn't exist until '98.

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Reply #22 posted 08/15/12 7:59am

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Good grief...after looking at the tracklisting on the vault site, how amazing would that album have been? It would have turned music on its ear. IMO there are EIGHT certifiable masterpieces there (and two EPIC ones):

- The Ballad of Dorothy Parker

- Strange Relationship

- Starfish & Coffee

- ICNTTPOYM

- Sign O' The Times

- Crystal Ball

- Movie Star

- All My Dreams

In 1986, NOTHING sounded ANYTHING like the songs above. Sometimes I forget just how amazingly talented he is (or at least was). His output during the period from 1983 through 1988 is to music what Tiger Woods was to golf from 1997 to 2008...never before and most likely never again.

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