http://www.drfunkenberry....isten-now/

Damn, you beat me to it! It's only been up for three minutes.

TIGHT.

Loving the Ice Cream Castles interpolation in the beginning.

Gotta love it...how cool that Prince is sharing these jams with us thru DrFunkenberry!

The Ice Cream Castles riff is kinda tight.

By sending this to Terry Lewis & fDeluxe, I wonder if this is Prince's way of affirming his ownership of the music, not only in terms of copyright, but also in terms of "pwning."

NuPwrSoul said:

The Ice Cream Castles riff is kinda tight.

By sending this to Terry Lewis & fDeluxe, I wonder if this is Prince's way of affirming his ownership of the music, not only in terms of copyright, but also in terms of "pwning."

Ditto.

Unless him playing "Cool" also wasn't meant as a swipe at the reformed Time.

Anyway back to topic, haterz on this jam will flood the thread in 3, 2, 1....

I agree it's a swipe at both FDeluxe & Original 7. And those proclaiming the departure of "Brother Larry" may have been a bit premature... sounds like him on the 2nd verse.

Sounds like he chewed out someone. But then that is

what rehearsals are all about.....to get it right.

mirrorrorrimage said:

I agree it's a swipe at both FDeluxe & Original 7. And those proclaiming the departure of "Brother Larry" may have been a bit premature... sounds like him on the 2nd verse.

With that arrogance, you wouldn't think he owes some perfume punks $4 million. But his control is threatened, even if everybody else doesn't care.

......U have been answered with a live rehearsal "MasterPiece".... O(+

'tis very much a jam whomever he's talking to and for whatever purpose ~ its a party yall!

Why do people think this is a DIG at FDeluxe and O7? Just because Prince picked Mutiny/Ice Cream Castles as the song(s)? I hate how most folks here automatically go to the negative interpretation of things.

Now, back to

I agree. Not sure why because there are also some "lyrics/statements" that could be interpreted as very positive, like 1,2,3,4, everybody get on the dance floor... oh well.

Besides, it seems odd for anyone to assume to know the context, content of any conversations or communications had between Prince, other artists, friends, family, etc. its just too silly.

bluefish said:

Why do people think this is a DIG at FDeluxe and O7? Just because Prince picked Mutiny/Ice Cream Castles as the song(s)? I hate how most folks here automatically go to the negative interpretation of things.

Now, back to

I'm not feelin it

ScissorsRockPaper said:

I agree. Not sure why because there are also some "lyrics/statements" that could be interpreted as very positive, like 1,2,3,4, everybody get on the dance floor... oh well.

Besides, it seems odd for anyone to assume to know the context, content of any conversations or communications had between Prince, other artists, friends, family, etc. its just too silly.

bluefish said:

Why do people think this is a DIG at FDeluxe and O7? Just because Prince picked Mutiny/Ice Cream Castles as the song(s)? I hate how most folks here automatically go to the negative interpretation of things.

Now, back to

thank U

thats what im talking abouttt

bluefish said:

Why do people think this is a DIG at FDeluxe and O7? Just because Prince picked Mutiny/Ice Cream Castles as the song(s)? I hate how most folks here automatically go to the negative interpretation of things.

Now, back to

Well if I recall correctly "Mutiny" was originally a dig at Morris for leaving the origina Time.

If this were just a rehearsal, I wouldn't wonder about it. BUT the context matters: he sent this to both fDeluxe & Terry Lewis--after Terry Lewis reportedly inquired about opening acts in Australia.

When has Prince ever sent either of them music / much less rehearsal of songs they once performed? (or in the case of The Time was about them?)

I don't think it's a stretch... on the positive side, he could be saying "Oh y'all want some of this... then bring it on... meet me in Oz." But I doubt it.

Like it alot! But why do I keep seeing links for a DAYS OF WILD?LOOSE JAM, but keep getting redirected to this ?

bluefish said:

Why do people think this is a DIG at FDeluxe and O7? Just because Prince picked Mutiny/Ice Cream Castles as the song(s)? I hate how most folks here automatically go to the negative interpretation of things.

Now, back to

Well-earned cynicism.

NuPwrSoul said:

bluefish said:

Why do people think this is a DIG at FDeluxe and O7? Just because Prince picked Mutiny/Ice Cream Castles as the song(s)? I hate how most folks here automatically go to the negative interpretation of things.

Now, back to

Well if I recall correctly "Mutiny" was originally a dig at Morris for leaving the origina Time.

If this were just a rehearsal, I wouldn't wonder about it. BUT the context matters: he sent this to both fDeluxe & Terry Lewis--after Terry Lewis reportedly inquired about opening acts in Australia.

When has Prince ever sent either of them music / much less rehearsal of songs they once performed? (or in the case of The Time was about them?)

I don't think it's a stretch... on the positive side, he could be saying "Oh y'all want some of this... then bring it on... meet me in Oz." But I doubt it.

I'm not discounting what you said. I guess I'm just tired of people automatically assuming the worst of Prince. That's a big reason I'm hardly ever on here anymore.

I'm not saying Prince can do no wrong, but I don't think he's as cold as some people believe him to be.

why would he make it public that this was a shot at them? We just had the interview with Jimmy Jam where he says

While we’re talking about Prince, have you and Terry every talked about producing him?

We’d love to do it. And he knows it. We’ve talked about it over the years. When we were in Minneapolis, and had our studio up there, he came by and visited one day and fell in love with Studio A, the design for which was based on a studio called Westlake. It just was a great, big, comfortable room.

And we asked him at one point, “Could we ever go through your vault and just pick out some songs and maybe mix them or do something like that?” And he said, “Yeah that’d be great. I’ll let you guys have ten songs and you can do with them what you want.” So we’ve talked about that. We’ve talked about us producing him. We’ve talked about him using our studio to record. And I think Terry might have had a conversation with him in the last couple months where some of those same things came up. So you never know. I don’t even know whether that’s something that would be successful or not, but I’d love to try it. At the end of the day, I’m probably one of the biggest Prince fans ever.

Even for Prince, who can be unpredictable at times, the theory that this is a shot at them just doesn't make sense. I personally would love to see Jam and Lews produce a Prince album. Have someone in charge who can push him a bit - someone where thee's mutual respect from the start.

bluefish said:

NuPwrSoul said:

Well if I recall correctly "Mutiny" was originally a dig at Morris for leaving the origina Time.

If this were just a rehearsal, I wouldn't wonder about it. BUT the context matters: he sent this to both fDeluxe & Terry Lewis--after Terry Lewis reportedly inquired about opening acts in Australia.

When has Prince ever sent either of them music / much less rehearsal of songs they once performed? (or in the case of The Time was about them?)

I don't think it's a stretch... on the positive side, he could be saying "Oh y'all want some of this... then bring it on... meet me in Oz." But I doubt it.

I'm not discounting what you said. I guess I'm just tired of people automatically assuming the worst of Prince. That's a big reason I'm hardly ever on here anymore.

I'm not saying Prince can do no wrong, but I don't think he's as cold as some people believe him to be.

didn't say that comment 2 b cold... am the least negative on here about Prince...

sounds to me like its a thumbs up, not a thumbs down.

ScissorsRockPaper said:

sounds to me like its a thumbs up, not a thumbs down.

Remember, in addition to the song, Prince sent Paul and Terry the YouTube video of the little kid saying "Thumbs up for rock and roll!" I think that's a good sign...

bluefish said:

ScissorsRockPaper said:

sounds to me like its a thumbs up, not a thumbs down.

Remember, in addition to the song, Prince sent Paul and Terry the YouTube video of the little kid saying "Thumbs up for rock and roll!" I think that's a good sign...

Ummm...u mean the vid of the MPLS kid that started with "I feel happy of myself"?

Sweet Jebus, this is one gigantic pile of dung. Oh, those painful "Mutiny" chants by those untalented backup singers.

Go compare this to the version on the recently freed boot of one of Prince's 1986 New York concerts.

BartVanHemelen said:

Sweet Jebus, this is one gigantic pile of dung. Oh, those painful "Mutiny" chants by those untalented backup singers.

Go compare this to the version on the recently freed boot of one of Prince's 1986 New York concerts.

Last time I checked, the calender said it was 2012, not 1986. Don't like it, fine. Go listen to those bootlegs or cry over your Trent Reznor posters.

Llanishenlad said:

Like it alot! But why do I keep seeing links for a DAYS OF WILD?LOOSE JAM, but keep getting redirected to this ?

Prince probably named it that to tease us, I swear I can't say it didn't work, either.

I was like when I saw that title

serpan99 said:

bluefish said:

Remember, in addition to the song, Prince sent Paul and Terry the YouTube video of the little kid saying "Thumbs up for rock and roll!" I think that's a good sign...

Ummm...u mean the vid of the MPLS kid that started with "I feel happy of myself"?

[Edited 4/23/12 0:25am]

Yep!

I listened to it a couple of times in a row, then went & listened to a couple of bootleg/outtake versions, then played it yet again & the conclusion is .. FUCK YES

I wasn't feeling it at first but now I can't stop listening (or sit still) to the damn thing I love how he asks for a reprise of the chorus "One more chorus, I love that!" He's just too damn funky for his own good

Thank you!

now, the only thing left 2 do f4me... .. is 2 bite my self since this show sound like something i never know /heard

I just can't stop thinking

Australia is going 2 get DA Funky cream

Context aside (although I took it as he's invited F-Deluxe and O7 to be the support act) I love this nasty little jam. I hope someones keeping track of all these jams.

Also do you think he's heard all the negativity about Andy and decided to remind everyone about how good his related artist stuff is. He seems very focused on his legacy of related artists at the mo Andre Cymone, The Family, The Time

Sigh....

This has the possible makings of something, but that's about it. And I'm probably being way too nice with that statement. The siren was hellannoying, and those Vegas horn stabs and weak ass synths need to go (at least the Hammond is out front).

Also, Shelby's ass is waaaayy too audible, and I can only imagine the arm wavin' shit she's doing on the stage. Girl, sit yo' overpowerin' ass DOWN somewhere!!!!!! And again with the lyric changes, Prince? "We're taking back the ship"? Just doesn't sound right.

So, to get this figurative taste out of my mouth, I'mma go listen to Mutiny 1986 to hear to how it SHOULD be done...with passion and REAL funk, and I'd highly advise everyone else to do the same. Oh wait, Bart already did...dat's muh boy!!!

[Edited 4/23/12 5:00am]

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Sigh....

This has the possible makings of something, but that's about it. And I'm probably being way too nice with that statement. The siren was hellannoying, and those Vegas horn stabs and weak ass synths need to go (at least the Hammond is out front).

Also, Shelby's ass is waaaayy to audible, and I can only imagine the arm wavin' shit she's doing on the stage. Girl, sit yo' overpowerin' ass DOWN somewhere!!!!!! And again with the lyric changes, Prince? "We're taking back the ship"? Just doesn't sound right.

So, to get this figurative taste out of my mouth, I'mma go listen to Mutiny 1986 to hear to how it SHOULD be done...with passion and REAL funk, and I'd highly advise everyone else to do the same. Oh wait, Bart already did...dat's muh boy!!!

[Snip - luv4u]

THIS IS WHAT I WANT!!!!!!!!!!!! PUT THIS ON FRONT PAGE MAN!!!

AMAZING

Hmmmm... I am not sure I like this.

"Ok", but not great.

the chords to ice cream castles never sounded so good..

they make feel good.. this is classic prince to me..

It's a great rendition of a classic song. It's just a different version folks, no need to get your panties in a wad.

was excited till heard this version listened a couple of times will go back to my live copies of fdeluxe or st paul doing mutiny now for a funkier version

He's been doing the Mutiny chant for years hasn't he?

Ice Cream Castles and Mutiny? Are we supposed to infer something from this? Can't he make a swipe at Larry instead, that's more 2012 than 1985.

I know the org is on the 'call everyone a hater' trip at the mo' - but this is pretty weaksauce for me. I dug the Dance Electric, but this reminds of the Soul Psychodelicide Revolution rehersal where they're noodling on a groove for 90 mins - What's so amazing about this bunch of replaceables that he couldn't get from anyone else?

[Edited 4/23/12 2:09am]

One funky jam 4 sure!!! Loving it big time & will love it even more the more I listen. I'm miffed that Oz is so far away cuz these shows r just gonna be so amazing but lucky those who will b attending. I think the band are sounding really, really good!! Couple of things- The funky Dr said Terry got his answer in this jam; so hope it's the answer he was wanting! Prince also has changed some lyrics, am I right? 'Baby, with unity we wud never fall. Baby now there's mutiny, the court is in the ball. That's a dump' (?) Or am I just deaf? Then I'm sure I hear a 'baby brother' in there; a reference to Larry G- whatever is going on with that situation? Ah Prince, you give the answers that just lead on & on 2 so many other questions! Ha ha. But this jam is a real cracker!

[Edited 4/23/12 2:59am]

I'm enjoying this.

I think some of you are taking this all too seriously - It's a rehearsal jam... that is all. Funky for what it is.

toejam said:

I think some of you are taking this all too seriously

And there we have it.

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Also, Shelby's ass is waaaayy to audible, and I can only imagine the arm wavin' shit she's doing on the stage. Girl, sit yo' overpowerin' ass DOWN somewhere!!!!!!

Brilliant.

BartVanHemelen said:

Sweet Jebus, this is one gigantic pile of dung. Oh, those painful "Mutiny" chants by those untalented backup singers.

Fully agree, once again!!

They managed to get all the funk OUT of this track.

It's OK. I think the Dance Electric rehearsal has some better musical moments. Also, the "we're takin' over..." part is gone from the chorus, which was my favorite part. Oh well. Still enjoyable.

The underlying groove is fine, the vocals are okay, but I find the organ / synth sounds hilariously bad. Then again, I never thought "Ice Cream Castles" was a very strong piece of music on its own right. Just lose that riff and it should be fine.

Very weak....The song sounds shit with the IceCreamCaste bits and the jamming is sooo boring!

Prince, i really fear u lost your fire.....

A good advice for you:

Start singing your songs

Dont jam every song for 10 min...it gets really boring, when u do that on every song

Dont let the girls take over ( I think they are your backing voices not the other way around???

I hope that the new show in may will be better that this...

misiu said:

Start singing your songs

huh? They are his songs. And to be honest, even though this is a bit dull for me, I'd rather hear him do stuff like The Dance Electric, Mutiny, etc than yet another Lets Go Crazy or Kiss 'by numbers'.

erik319 said:

misiu said:

Start singing your songs

huh? They are his songs. And to be honest, even though this is a bit dull for me, I'd rather hear him do stuff like The Dance Electric, Mutiny, etc than yet another Lets Go Crazy or Kiss 'by numbers'.

jonylawson said:

Yeah this is pretty lackluster...it just doesn't work that well. And you can't help but compare it to past live versions of Mutiny because we've all heard it done that much better.

I like it

It's fine and funky. And if all you moaning fuckers saw this live you'd be all leaping up n down like a bunch of girls just add the chant "Larry!!! Fuckoff : and it's perfect...

See now I like this better than the other one. This is cool! Australian fans get ready8-) !!!!!!

now THIS is good news! prince and larry G working on some new jams!!!!! new album please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Meh! Average at best. I know it's just a jam, but perhaps I would have enjoyed this more if Funkenberry hadn't overhyped it as some amazing piece of funk.

Everything Prince does these days is just 'safe' to the point that even his rehearsal jams are 'boil in the bag', perfectly produced dullness.

Oh well!

It's ok. Not great, not terrible. Of course part of it may be watching a 50 something man acting like a highschooler sending ex associate adults this as a "message". Kind of makes it all pathetic.

funkmunki said:

It's fine and funky. And if all you moaning fuckers saw this live you'd be all leaping up n down like a bunch of girls just add the chant "Larry!!! Fuckoff : and it's perfect...

Yes Larry you can fuck right off now and leave him alone!!

To the music in hand - yeah its OK but I saw it live in 86 and that was fucking awesome - wooden leg wooden leg gotta chop that tree down!!

This is definitely a step in the right direction. Now if Prince would just start selling soundboard recordings of all his shows the way Metallica does…

Some of the keyboards are like the "Soul Psychedelicide" reheasal..."we are young were not old and we are funnnnnky"

wow - some people are awfully critical about free music that is a recording of a rehersal. This isn't off a sudio album, this isn't even an actual concert, and it's free. The second free song in about a week.

I guess there's alwasys going to be someone to complain that Prince in 2012 doesn't sound exactly the same as he did in 1986. Guess what, he's not supposed to sound exactly the same 26 years later. How boring would that be if he never changed at all.

I like the Melkweg version from last year more. But still cool.

It's unfair for some orgers to say others are being 'overly critical' or 'moaners'. We all know it's a jam and it's free, but it doesn't mean we all have to like it. We are all allowed to express an opinion on the jam, positive or negative.

I think it's justified to be disappointed, considering all the hype and mystique this new jam has gotten. I think many assumed this could be a new song from a new album, only to be greated with yet another uninspired jam.

Had this just been released without all the hype of being 'incredibly funky' etc. perhaps we would be more appreciative.

this one is a bit better than dance electric, which was just a mumbling of the chorus for about 3 seconds then a long one chord jam .. its nice that the band is almost playing the song .. prince weakness is these one chord jams that really go nowhere and he tends to turn perfectly good songs into them, completely stripping the song of any chord changes or even verses and chorus .. this jam is most definately a shot at the time/family .. i really doubt they will turn up on the tour .. wasn't there a whole .. you cant use the family/time name fiasco .. now they want to be on his tour and he is saying .. nope .. i'm taking back my ship .. pretty blatent and rude .. man those guys must be desparate to get back in his good graces to take an insult like that as tho it were something positive .. i really wish prince would stop changing his lyrics tho .. and don't come up with any new chants .. they are all horrible .. other than that .. its a good jam and a move in the right direction for prince .. nice to hear it raw and almost fleshed out .. the organ sounds fine .. much better than most of the keyboard parts on the welcome to tour .. which were horrible synths .. and there is no jazz piano in it .. which is another great improvement .. this band sounds like it could be a prince band for a change ... of course anything that isnt a sara mcglaughlin cover is a great improvement at this point .. i hope prince fleshes out more classic rarities .. this one hes played a lot over the years and dance electric was far from representative of an actual song .. he would do well to play these kind of songs instead of ANY covers .. his covers SUCK .. the last cover he did that was worth anything was a case of u .. in 84 .. not on that horrid piano album .. even tho that one was ok i guess ..

alandail said:

I guess there's alwasys going to be someone to complain that Prince in 2012 doesn't sound exactly the same as he did in 1986.

I guess there is always going to be someone to complain about the people who complain that Prince in 2012 does not sound the same as he did in 1986.

[Edited 4/23/12 6:58am]

I don't think that was Larry in the second verse, just Prince in his lower register.

BartVanHemelen said:

untalented backup singers

Untalented is a f***ing euphemism...

What about "excruciating"?

Sorry I couldn't go beyond Shelby's chorus...

Had to press "pause" and

I really like this jam/rehearsal...great energy and funky guitar

alandail said:

wow - some people are awfully critical about free music that is a recording of a rehersal. This isn't off a sudio album, this isn't even an actual concert, and it's free. The second free song in about a week.

I guess there's alwasys going to be someone to complain that Prince in 2012 doesn't sound exactly the same as he did in 1986. Guess what, he's not supposed to sound exactly the same 26 years later. How boring would that be if he never changed at all.

people here love to to criticize...they get a nice little rehearsal jam and they complain...boring

Not as grand as Dance Electric imo but I'm defi thankful Prince shared these rehearsals!!

Come on Prince let the Time open for ya!! BALK BALK BALK BALK BALKKKK!!!!

Mutiny said:

BartVanHemelen said:

untalented backup singers

Untalented is a f***ing euphemism...

What about "excruciating"?

Sorry I couldn't go beyond Shelby's chorus...

Had to press "pause" and

If Shelby looked like Mayte or Salma Hayek U wouldn't be crucifying her like this...

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

If Shelby looked like Mayte or Salma Hayek U wouldn't be crucifying her like this...

Mayte couldn't sing for shit and everyone said it.

bluefish said:

Why do people think this is a DIG at FDeluxe and O7? Just because Prince picked Mutiny/Ice Cream Castles as the song(s)? I hate how most folks here automatically go to the negative interpretation of things.

Now, back to

I was prepared to agree with this. But I can definitely see how "Takin' back the ship. You should've been a little more hip" could be interpreted as being somewhat...well..."pointed."

I'm sure RDHULL is lovin' the sirens, though.

jpnyc said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Mutiny said:

Untalented is a f***ing euphemism...

What about "excruciating"?

Sorry I couldn't go beyond Shelby's chorus...

Had to press "pause" and

If Shelby looked like Mayte or Salma Hayek U wouldn't be crucifying her like this...

Why are you saying this?

Shelby's voice irritates me as much as Mayte's.

But Mayte never had such a dominant position at P's shows!

And for more than 5 M.F. YEARS now !!! Got it?

Llanishenlad said:

I think it is quite obvious what message Prince is sending.

"These are my songs and I own their MF asses so why would I need a support act when I can do this..."

However, it is also clear from the interviews that he is happy for the O7 so not a "nasty" dig, just a playful "I don't need yo but thanks"

I think both the rehersal jams posted so far (Dance Electric last week and Mutiny/Ice Cream... this week) were enjoyable. Especially since for me none of these three songs were ever huge favorites of mine and they were free.

The hullabaloo over it not sounding exactly like it did in 1986 is absurd. Sorry but being a long time fan I know for a fact Prince has re-worked most all of his songs over the years for concert performances, so nothing new here. It's just nice not to hear "Raspberry Baret/Kiss" for the gazillionith time.

As for Shelby. Well at least she's not singing off key for entire songs like some other mega hyped former band members.

Ifsixwuz9 said:

I think both the rehersal jams posted so far (Dance Electric last week and Mutiny/Ice Cream... this week) were enjoyable. Especially since for me none of these three songs were ever huge favorites of mine and they were free.

The hullabaloo over it not sounding exactly like it did in 1986 is absurd. Sorry but being a long time fan I know for a fact Prince has re-worked most all of his songs over the years for concert performances, so nothing new here. It's just nice not to hear "Raspberry Baret/Kiss" for the gazillionith time.

As for Shelby. Well at least she's not singing off key for entire songs like some other mega hyped former band members.

Genesia said:

bluefish said:

Why do people think this is a DIG at FDeluxe and O7? Just because Prince picked Mutiny/Ice Cream Castles as the song(s)? I hate how most folks here automatically go to the negative interpretation of things.

Now, back to

I was prepared to agree with this. But I can definitely see how "Takin' back the ship. You should've been a little more hip" could be interpreted as being somewhat...well..."pointed."

I'm sure RDHULL is lovin' the sirens, though.

The siren and the Ice Cream Castles organ was the best thing of this jam to me ..but this is NOT Mutiny, it's almost a bastardization imo. Yes, I know that he is reworking several of his classics and non released etc such as E-Loveable and Little Red Corvette. Those two songs worked as some of the reworkings work with the structure of the original song, but imo the original beat, groove, feel of Mutiny is not to be fucked with. Ever. He did it justice the last time he recognized the song with the Hit n Run tour as it bled from Controversy. He put his foot in it with Mutiny on that tour. Had us all hyped, jumpin up and down. What I hear in this rehearsal is a jam that's going to be used for the audience dance sections. You can see her and him etc calling to certain audience sections to move and maybe even some audience members onstage. Thats what this rehearsal sounds like they are preparing it for.

And damn..is this a diss to The Time/07? I thought him doing Cool last year was because he heard they were working together again and getign ready to put out a new release. So here we go again? Wow if so.

But Im not trying to get all Christopher Walken, but this jam DOES need more siren imo.

.

[Edited 4/23/12 7:55am]

rdhull said:

Genesia said:

I was prepared to agree with this. But I can definitely see how "Takin' back the ship. You should've been a little more hip" could be interpreted as being somewhat...well..."pointed."

I'm sure RDHULL is lovin' the sirens, though.

The siren and the Ice Cream Castles organ was the best thing of this jam to me ..but this is NOT Mutiny but almost a bastardization imo. Yes, I know that he is reworking severalo of his classics and non released etc such as E-Loveable and Little Red Corvette. Some of the reworkings work with the structure of the original song but imo the original beat, groove, feel of Mutiny is not to be fucked with. Ever. He did it justicethe last time with the Hit n Run tour as it bled from Controversy. What I hear in this rehearsal is a jam that's going to be used for the audience dance sections. You can see her and him etc calling to certain audience sections to move and maybe even some audience members onstage. Thats what this rehearsal sounds like they are preparing it for.

But Im not trying to get all Christopher Walken, but this jam DOES need more siren imo.

alexnvrmnd777 said:

BobGeorge909 said:

" BUT...what was that guitar lick at the end from...I KNOW I done heard that b'fo! " not belabor the point but its aching my brain trying to remember. When I asked in the prof post I thought it had probably veena previously answered but was asking again anyways. Been scanning my brain for 15 minutes now and can't filter it up.

Dinner With Delores?

Thank you Prince!

I kinda like this one. I still feel that the background singers are a bit too overpowering. However, I still remember this is a rehearsal.

paulludvig said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:

I think both the rehersal jams posted so far (Dance Electric last week and Mutiny/Ice Cream... this week) were enjoyable. Especially since for me none of these three songs were ever huge favorites of mine and they were free.

The hullabaloo over it not sounding exactly like it did in 1986 is absurd. Sorry but being a long time fan I know for a fact Prince has re-worked most all of his songs over the years for concert performances, so nothing new here. It's just nice not to hear "Raspberry Baret/Kiss" for the gazillionith time.

As for Shelby. Well at least she's not singing off key for entire songs like some other mega hyped former band members.

You laugh, but you know it's true.

[Edited 4/23/12 20:12pm]

Whiskas31 said:

It's unfair for some orgers to say others are being 'overly critical' or 'moaners'. We all know it's a jam and it's free, but it doesn't mean we all have to like it. We are all allowed to express an opinion on the jam, positive or negative.

I think it's justified to be disappointed, considering all the hype and mystique this new jam has gotten. I think many assumed this could be a new song from a new album, only to be greated with yet another uninspired jam.

Had this just been released without all the hype of being 'incredibly funky' etc. perhaps we would be more appreciative.

it was "hyped" for what, 2 days, and was never stated to be anything more than a recoridng of a rehersal jam

alexnvrmnd777 said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:

[Snip - luv4u]

What in the hell was this "snipped" for? All I said was "Here we go with the name calling again!" So, why was THAT taken out?!! His comment, yeah, but mine's was taking the high road, because I could've really let loose on his ass!!!

Probably just a precaution so there would be no reason for another thread to be derailed by two people trying to get digs in at each other for 40% of the posts in yet another Prince music related thread.

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[Edited 4/23/12 8:02am]

Mutiny said:

BartVanHemelen said:

untalented backup singers

Untalented is a f***ing euphemism...

What about "excruciating"?

Sorry I couldn't go beyond Shelby's chorus...

Had to press "pause" and

I think they have decent voices, but they are just too overpowering. I, too, had to turn down the volume in parts to deal with them.

Mutiny said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

If Shelby looked like Mayte or Salma Hayek U wouldn't be crucifying her like this...

Why are you saying this?

Shelby's voice irritates me as much as Mayte's.

But Mayte never had such a dominant position at P's shows!

And for more than 5 M.F. YEARS now !!! Got it?

rdhull said:

rdhull said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:

alexnvrmnd777 said: What in the hell was this "snipped" for? All I said was "Here we go with the name calling again!" So, why was THAT taken out?!! His comment, yeah, but mine's was taking the high road, because I could've really let loose on his ass!!!

Probably just a precaution so there would be no reason for another thread to be derailed by two people trying to get digs in at each other for 40% of the posts in yet another Prince music related thread.

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[Edited 4/23/12 8:02am]

Pffft, so what, are they precogs now who try to "stop a crime" before it happens? They need to needlessly stop censoring shit (unless of course there actually is something heinous being said).

Mutiny said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

If Shelby looked like Mayte or Salma Hayek U wouldn't be crucifying her like this...

Why are you saying this?

Shelby's voice irritates me as much as Mayte's.

But Mayte never had such a dominant position at P's shows!

And for more than 5 M.F. YEARS now !!! Got it?

Why? Because he's trying interject some sort of racial bias where it doesn't belong. It's not Shelby's skin color or looks that makes her ass annoying. It's the fact that she's practically singing lead because she's so damn overbearing and loud, on top of her usual hype-man wanna-be chants. And it's all on Prince for letting her do that shit for so long too.

Shit, back when Tony M was just as annoying (well, at least Shelby can sing), we only got him for about 3 years. Shelby's ass has BEEN worn out her welcome for many years now!!!

Mutiny said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

If Shelby looked like Mayte or Salma Hayek U wouldn't be crucifying her like this...

Why are you saying this?

Shelby's voice irritates me as much as Mayte's.

But Mayte never had such a dominant position at P's shows!

And for more than 5 M.F. YEARS now !!! Got it?

Mayte was Prince main dancer 4 over 3 years. never heard all this criticism over her. Like U people show toward Shelby. Prince even produced Mayte's album....All this hate & dis respectfulness U show toward her needs to stop. Obviously Prince doesn't care. Because he keeps putting her out front even more. So he obviously reads what U say about her.

Ifsixwuz9 said:

paulludvig said:

You laugh, but you know it's true.

Yep

I'll reserve all opinions until after this....

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Sounds okay, but yeah the background singers are just way too much i.e. Shelby needs to tone it down some I do believe it is a dig at The O7/The Time and The Family. I've heard Prince do much better versions of Mutiny though. But I guess for a rehearsal it's decent. What the hell is up with the pic on Funk's page though and Larry is not on here singing, that is Prince.

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Sigh....

This has the possible makings of something, but that's about it. And I'm probably being way too nice with that statement. The siren was hellannoying, and those Vegas horn stabs and weak ass synths need to go (at least the Hammond is out front).

Also, Shelby's ass is waaaayy too audible, and I can only imagine the arm wavin' shit she's doing on the stage. Girl, sit yo' overpowerin' ass DOWN somewhere!!!!!! And again with the lyric changes, Prince? "We're taking back the ship"? Just doesn't sound right.

So, to get this figurative taste out of my mouth, I'mma go listen to Mutiny 1986 to hear to how it SHOULD be done...with passion and REAL funk, and I'd highly advise everyone else to do the same. Oh wait, Bart already did...dat's muh boy!!!

[Edited 4/23/12 5:00am]

Believe it or not I'm in agreement.

Mutiny said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

If Shelby looked like Mayte or Salma Hayek U wouldn't be crucifying her like this...

Why are you saying this?

Shelby's voice irritates me as much as Mayte's.

But Mayte never had such a dominant position at P's shows!

And for more than 5 M.F. YEARS now !!! Got it?

Look at it this way, even if no one agrees, if Prince didn't want Shelby as part of his band, and wasn't comfortable with her talent, then I doubt he would have her there, and at this point, seeing how she's been a member of his band for this long, it is obvious he's content with her talent.

[Edited 4/23/12 8:52am]

i like it

next they should do erotic city, instrumental jam would be very nice

How is this working? Is Prince taking the request from people on the Dr Funkenberry forum? And I just have to wonder why he is so friendly with Funkenberry. Maybe he just likes it. Guess it doesn't matter really.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Mutiny said:

Why are you saying this?

Shelby's voice irritates me as much as Mayte's.

But Mayte never had such a dominant position at P's shows!

And for more than 5 M.F. YEARS now !!! Got it?

Mayte was Prince main dancer 4 over 3 years. never heard all this criticism over her. Like U people show toward Shelby. Prince even produced Mayte's album....All this hate & dis respectfulness U show toward her needs to stop. Obviously Prince doesn't care. Because he keeps putting her out front even more. So he obviously reads what U say about her.

I hope he keeps putting her out front. She's been gifted with a beautiful voice-both her and Liv.

If the blurb on Funkenberry's site is true, then it kind of sours the whole thing for me. I just don't see the point in acting like a prat about things when he could have behaved himself and give the planet a Time/Family/Prince show. All it's missing is a Punk Of The Month chant.

[Edited 4/23/12 9:09am]

2elijah said:

BobGeorge909 said:

jaypotton said:

I think it is quite obvious what message Prince is sending.

"These are my songs and I own their MF asses so why would I need a support act when I can do this..."

However, it is also clear from the interviews that he is happy for the O7 so not a "nasty" dig, just a playful "I don't need yo but thanks"

TOTALLY AGREE....This is one big DIS on his former collegues and they will NOT be opening for Prince anytime soon.

alexnvrmnd777 said:

BobGeorge909 said:

2elijah said:

Look at it this way, even if no one agrees, if Prince didn't want Shelby as part of his band, and wasn't comfortable with her talent, then I doubt he would have her there, and at this point, seeing how she's been a member of his band for this long, it is obvious he's content with her talent.

[Edited 4/23/12 8:52am]

This is where the problem lies.

What? Unselfishly allowing another artist to share the spotlight? Doesn't sound like a problem. He did the same with W&L when they were on stage with him in the past. That's how come their names are remembered among Prince's fan base. Besides, real talent lasts longer than a 'hot piece of ass'. Anyway, it's cool he's sharing snippets of the rehearsals with fans.

[Edited 4/23/12 9:34am]

Ok, so let me get this right, 4 pages on - a dozen hardcore fans find it 'ok' or dislike it altogether - the rest love it or enjoy it - that's a success then

Just like the last rehearsal i find it half assed and only showcases how lame this band is. Bring me the Power Trio, that would be a rehearsal worth listening too.

Prince is half assin it.

where do i begin? okay let me start with knowing that by sending fdeluxe this first, i knew it was either high fashion or mutiny. with sending it to terry lewis, it obviously wasn't going 2 be anything on condensate. so what are we left with? we are teased by fukenshit that this is awesome, it's funky.

okay what copy does funkenberry have that we don't?

when one thinks of the song mutiny, there is a foot up the ass groove that is so missing in this rehearsal. having said that it's a rehearsal, it can be worked on. I hear the keyboards for Ice cream castles and there is NO BITE in them. Whether it's the keyboards he's using now or it's the notion of knowing and hearing what it was like before.

what i did like was the inclusion of the muhammed ali chant again but it had more bite previously.

the vocals - i do agree that shelby can sing however her vocals in this rehearsal need 2 be turned down during the verses. why is she singing the verses anyway?

and lastly, when someone is saying prince is bringing back the funk, 2 me, bringing back the funk means a new song that is funky not something the majority of us have been knowing for over 20 years.

80spfantwp said:

Ok, so let me get this right, 4 pages on - a dozen hardcore fans find it 'ok' or dislike it altogether - the rest love it or enjoy it - that's a success then

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Mutiny said:

Untalented is a f***ing euphemism...

What about "excruciating"?

Sorry I couldn't go beyond Shelby's chorus...

Had to press "pause" and

If Shelby looked like Mayte or Salma Hayek U wouldn't be crucifying her like this...

WRONG ONCE AGAIN!

let me give u a history lesson, when mayte was around u don't know how much hate she got just for being around. even prince addressed that hate she was getting during a paisley park concert in 96 on stage.

so please check yourself b4 u make statements like u made about if shelby looked a certain way or another way

i don't like it and i don't dislike it. it just kind of sits there, you know

not sure what to make of this in regards to his communication with the

family or the time. if it's some sort of dig, it's just too sad for words.

but somehow i can't really see it as that. why would he send it to them

as a dis and then they post it as a gift and a sort of praise to themself?

once again it's just one of those moments. hyping and vagueness

taking away from the music.

is shelby annoying? i think she is. at least, in this mix.

why the hell doesn't prince produce an album for this woman who can

obviously sing. instead he pushes her to the front at his shows where

she takes over and gets on people's last nerve after all these years.

it's clear that he believes she's very talented (as do I). but why does he

give Tamar, Bria and now Andy an album's worth of material and just

keeps Shelby in his live band?

I wish he'd treat her like all his other women, give her an album and

then send her packing.

as far as these unreleased/rare songs are concerned. i'd rather hear a

whole evening's worth of this, admittedly rather monotone, jamming on

rare cuts than sit through another "raspberry beret/take me with you"

medley. or another piano set with 10 second, 2 note teases of some of

his cool stuff, before launching into yet another NC2U or whatever.

i'm just wondering what the heck happened after the one nite alone tour.

that tour was on fire. the way he played his songs was just amazing and

inspired.

it's still there. mainly in his guitar playing which i adore right now. but he

kind of makes this same very stripped down, paint by numbers, vegas-y

tribute act funk n roll of all his songs now.

he needs to stick to some of those songs's authentic sounds. what was so

incredibly cool about "hot thing" last year was that it sounded like Hot Thing,

and not like a vegas cover band doing hot thing on their casio.

same thing with tracks like mountains etc. they need that original drum or

rhythm track or those original synth sounds.

you can still vary on the theme, just don't paint everything in the same two

colors when the originals were all over the rainbow.

aaaanywho. i'm still gonna listen to the next rehearsal, even if it has shelby

on it from start to finish.

and then i'll bitch a bit about it. so sue me

is it so wrong that i think the fact that shelby is bald and generally odd looking does add to not enjoying her? especially when you see something live, visuals do play some kind of role

alexnvrmnd777 said:

uuhson said:

is it so wrong that i think the fact that shelby is bald and generally odd looking does add to not enjoying her? especially when you see something live, visuals do play some kind of role

actually, i think that's part of her appeal. she's not some generic dime a dozen lady.

she's got her own style and that's pretty cool.

i just don't want anyone taking that much prime time at a prince show. wether it's

shelby or larry or andy or whomever.

i'm paying to see prince perform HIS songs. if prince wants us to be exposed to the

talents of other people, he should put them on as his opening act.

there'd be absolutely no problem with shelby doing a 30 minute set before his show

starts. or larry (well, i wouldn't mind never seeing larry live again, but you know),

or andy etc.

but when prince hits the stage, it better be prince all the way. some nice backups or

a short cameo, ok, but that's all.

i'd pick prince and an acoustic guitar, just strumming and singing acoustic versions

of his songs all night over any kind of show, no matter how spectacular, that has a

whole plethora of guests and mc's etc going on.

L4OATheOriginal said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

If Shelby looked like Mayte or Salma Hayek U wouldn't be crucifying her like this...

WRONG ONCE AGAIN!

let me give u a history lesson, when mayte was around u don't know how much hate she got just for being around. even prince addressed that hate she was getting during a paisley park concert in 96 on stage.

so please check yourself b4 u make statements like u made about if shelby looked a certain way or another way

If Mayte got any hate. It was because she was a beautiful women shaking her ass that Prince had his on.

don't need no history lesson boo boo. I've seen Mayte front & center @ several Prince shows when use 2 go 2 his now defunct club Glam Slam every week.No one had a problem..So U check Urself U hater...

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

WRONG ONCE AGAIN!

let me give u a history lesson, when mayte was around u don't know how much hate she got just for being around. even prince addressed that hate she was getting during a paisley park concert in 96 on stage.

so please check yourself b4 u make statements like u made about if shelby looked a certain way or another way

If Mayte got any hate. It was because she was a beautiful women shaking her ass that Prince had his on.

don't need no history lesson boo boo. I've seen Mayte front & center @ several Prince shows when use 2 go 2 his now defunct club Glam Slam every week.No one had a problem..So U check Urself U hater...

i think the difference is that we're now firmly in the internet/blogging era. back when mayte was

with prince the internet was just slowly starting up.

all his women seem to get lots of hate online. wether it be bria or andy or shelby or larry

i've never really seen people spew hate toward someone at a concert. except larry, when he'd

just go on and on and on with his solo's in 1998. and even then, people wouldn't just boo him,

they'd just roll their eyes at each other and go 'jeez, isn't he done yet? i'm getting a beer'.

i guess what i'm trying to say is that people would probably be just as miffed about mayte if she

were in his band right now.

uuhson said:

is it so wrong that i think the fact that shelby is bald and generally odd looking does add to not enjoying her? especially when you see something live, visuals do play some kind of role

Agreed. The lady can sing, but the visuals have been hurting my eyes for some years now. I think what someone said about Prince giving her an album and sending her on her way is true. Also, the point that Istenzek made about paying to see Prince and only Prince is true. Folks pay mad money to see Prince and I'm sure all these extra folks are starting to get on their nerves.

i seriously believe the reason misty copeland left prince's entourage so quickly

is because some bunny boiler prince fan sent her like a box full of scorpions

with a picture of herself all scratched out with words like "die bitch, he's mine".

IstenSzek said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

If Mayte got any hate. It was because she was a beautiful women shaking her ass that Prince had his on.

don't need no history lesson boo boo. I've seen Mayte front & center @ several Prince shows when use 2 go 2 his now defunct club Glam Slam every week.No one had a problem..So U check Urself U hater...

i think the difference is that we're now firmly in the internet/blogging era. back when mayte was

with prince the internet was just slowly starting up.

all his women seem to get lots of hate online. wether it be bria or andy or shelby or larry

i've never really seen people spew hate toward someone at a concert. except larry, when he'd

just go on and on and on with his solo's in 1998. and even then, people wouldn't just boo him,

they'd just roll their eyes at each other and go 'jeez, isn't he done yet? i'm getting a beer'.

i guess what i'm trying to say is that people would probably be just as miffed about mayte if she

were in his band right now.

IstenSzek said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

If Mayte got any hate. It was because she was a beautiful women shaking her ass that Prince had his on.

don't need no history lesson boo boo. I've seen Mayte front & center @ several Prince shows when use 2 go 2 his now defunct club Glam Slam every week.No one had a problem..So U check Urself U hater...

i think the difference is that we're now firmly in the internet/blogging era. back when mayte was

with prince the internet was just slowly starting up.

all his women seem to get lots of hate online. wether it be bria or andy or shelby or larry

i've never really seen people spew hate toward someone at a concert. except larry, when he'd

just go on and on and on with his solo's in 1998. and even then, people wouldn't just boo him,

they'd just roll their eyes at each other and go 'jeez, isn't he done yet? i'm getting a beer'.

i guess what i'm trying to say is that people would probably be just as miffed about mayte if she

were in his band right now.

You're right cuz I hated Mayte's ass back in the 90's and I wasn't even online. I also didn't follow Prince alot during those years, but I still disliked her As for Larry, if he or Prince ever reads this-please stop making people listen to Everyday People in concert. I mean damn! The song is great and historical, but we get it already.

IstenSzek said:

i seriously believe the reason misty copeland left prince's entourage so quickly

is because some bunny boiler prince fan sent her like a box full of scorpions

with a picture of herself all scratched out with words like "die bitch, he's mine".

Nah, Misty is smart and doesn't "need" Prince for her career to get "off"-She has her own thing going

nursev said:

You're right cuz I hated Mayte's ass back in the 90's and I wasn't even online. I also didn't follow Prince alot during those years, but I still disliked her

i love you

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

WRONG ONCE AGAIN!

let me give u a history lesson, when mayte was around u don't know how much hate she got just for being around. even prince addressed that hate she was getting during a paisley park concert in 96 on stage.

so please check yourself b4 u make statements like u made about if shelby looked a certain way or another way

If Mayte got any hate. It was because she was a beautiful women shaking her ass that Prince had his on.

don't need no history lesson boo boo. I've seen Mayte front & center @ several Prince shows when use 2 go 2 his now defunct club Glam Slam every week.No one had a problem..So U check Urself U hater...

i'm a hater of mayte? damn u are funny really! u should stick 2 ur obsession of jada better if u think i'm hater of mayte.

facts are facts about the hate mayte received and if she didn't, again prince would have never said anything 2 that effect LIVE so u do need a history lesson with ur comments

glad i was able 2 provide it 2 u ..now go eye roll me like u do cause u never wanna admit when ur wrong on this site or answer anybody when they ask u flat out what it is u do that u claim 2 know this person or that person or describe what a masterpiece is

and here will be ur response 2 everything i just said cause it's all ur best 4 doing up in this peice

IstenSzek said:

nursev said:

You're right cuz I hated Mayte's ass back in the 90's and I wasn't even online. I also didn't follow Prince alot during those years, but I still disliked her

i love you

You spoke the Truth Is

nursev said:

IstenSzek said:

i think the difference is that we're now firmly in the internet/blogging era. back when mayte was

with prince the internet was just slowly starting up.

all his women seem to get lots of hate online. wether it be bria or andy or shelby or larry

i've never really seen people spew hate toward someone at a concert. except larry, when he'd

just go on and on and on with his solo's in 1998. and even then, people wouldn't just boo him,

they'd just roll their eyes at each other and go 'jeez, isn't he done yet? i'm getting a beer'.

i guess what i'm trying to say is that people would probably be just as miffed about mayte if she

were in his band right now.

You're right cuz I hated Mayte's ass back in the 90's and I wasn't even online. I also didn't follow Prince alot during those years, but I still disliked her As for Larry, if he or Prince ever reads this-please stop making people listen to Everyday People in concert. I mean damn! The song is great and historical, but we get it already.

can i add ANY sly song 2 your request right there? and how about more GCS material other than the jam and release yourself?

hell i'd love 2 hear water or how about "ain't nothing like a warner bros party"

L4OATheOriginal said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

If Mayte got any hate. It was because she was a beautiful women shaking her ass that Prince had his on.

don't need no history lesson boo boo. I've seen Mayte front & center @ several Prince shows when use 2 go 2 his now defunct club Glam Slam every week.No one had a problem..So U check Urself U hater...

i'm a hater of mayte? damn u are funny really! u should stick 2 ur obsession of jada better if u think i'm hater of mayte.

facts are facts about the hate mayte received and if she didn't, again prince would have never said anything 2 that effect LIVE so u do need a history lesson with ur comments

glad i was able 2 provide it 2 u ..now go eye roll me like u do cause u never wanna admit when ur wrong on this site or answer anybody when they ask u flat out what it is u do that u claim 2 know this person or that person or describe what a masterpiece is

and here will be ur response 2 everything i just said cause it's all ur best 4 doing up in this peice

alandail said:

Whiskas31 said:

It's unfair for some orgers to say others are being 'overly critical' or 'moaners'. We all know it's a jam and it's free, but it doesn't mean we all have to like it. We are all allowed to express an opinion on the jam, positive or negative.

I think it's justified to be disappointed, considering all the hype and mystique this new jam has gotten. I think many assumed this could be a new song from a new album, only to be greated with yet another uninspired jam.

Had this just been released without all the hype of being 'incredibly funky' etc. perhaps we would be more appreciative.

it was "hyped" for what, 2 days, and was never stated to be anything more than a recoridng of a rehersal jam

That's true Alandail, I stand corrected. It wasn't stated to be anything more than a rehearsal jam. However, how can the sentences "It is hot, funky, dirty, and will leave you in puddle of sweat." and "Our ears have been blown by something just sent to us." not be considered unnecessary hype?

L4OATheOriginal said:

nursev said:

You're right cuz I hated Mayte's ass back in the 90's and I wasn't even online. I also didn't follow Prince alot during those years, but I still disliked her As for Larry, if he or Prince ever reads this-please stop making people listen to Everyday People in concert. I mean damn! The song is great and historical, but we get it already.

can i add ANY sly song 2 your request right there? and how about more GCS material other than the jam and release yourself?

hell i'd love 2 hear water or how about "ain't nothing like a warner bros party"

Agree cuz if I hear Larry's barotone voice one more time singing Everyday People or any Sly song it's on

nursev said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

can i add ANY sly song 2 your request right there? and how about more GCS material other than the jam and release yourself?

hell i'd love 2 hear water or how about "ain't nothing like a warner bros party"

Agree cuz if I hear Larry's barotone voice one more time singing Everyday People or any Sly song it's on

we'll show them "mutiny" and take over that ship

sometimes i despair, i really do. The track is given for free and people complain!!. I made all my points on the Dance electric thread and they all apply here i.e. IT's free, it's a jam taped during a rehearsal etc. I am lovin' the fact that the chicken grease guitar is high up in the mix again, lovin' morris hays' keys on this and the rising horns. Come on, go listen again and tell me there ain't at least 1 thing you like about this jam. Come on and get your funk face on!

Oh fuck it, I love it so what the hey! - i'm off to plug in my guitar and jam along.

oh and by the way I am in no way an ass kisser !.

funkyhead said:

sometimes i despair, i really do. The track is given for free and people complain!!. I made all my points on the Dance electric thread and they all apply here i.e. IT's free, it's a jam taped during a rehearsal etc. I am lovin' the fact that the chicken grease guitar is high up in the mix again, lovin' morris hays' keys on this and the rising horns. Come on, go listen again and tell me there ain't at least 1 thing you like about this jam. Come on and get your funk face on!

Oh fuck it, I love it so what the hey! - i'm off to plug in my guitar and jam along.

oh and by the way I am in no way an ass kisser !.

um so people have 2 pay for it to say whether they like it or not?

as for dissin the O7 & FDeluxe, they need not be bothered. They chose their own path last year and gave us 2 amazing CD's, their respective talents stand strong. If P is being arrogant I trust his next record will surpass what they have delivered, hope he was just doing this tongue firmly in cheek. The chap from the FDeluxe camp didn't seem to mind too much - actually he seemed to like it!.

The arrangement/mix is a little bit too treble cute in tone, but nice parts. Would be etter with male back up vocals.

I can't believe Prince let Dr Funkenberry post that unflattering photo!

L4OATheOriginal said:

funkyhead said:

sometimes i despair, i really do. The track is given for free and people complain!!. I made all my points on the Dance electric thread and they all apply here i.e. IT's free, it's a jam taped during a rehearsal etc. I am lovin' the fact that the chicken grease guitar is high up in the mix again, lovin' morris hays' keys on this and the rising horns. Come on, go listen again and tell me there ain't at least 1 thing you like about this jam. Come on and get your funk face on!

Oh fuck it, I love it so what the hey! - i'm off to plug in my guitar and jam along.

oh and by the way I am in no way an ass kisser !.

um so people have 2 pay for it to say whether they like it or not?

don't be daft. It's just basic manners in my book. Imagine if you cooked a meal for your loved one and it tasted like crap! and she/he didn't hold back on their criticism. You'd be hurt right?.

Larry is Prince's all time musical idol. He will always b in the mix whether U people like it or not. Don't like it. Don't go. Its as simple as that...

crack up when Prince deliberately tries 2 erk U & bring Larry on stage 4 the hundred time & give Shelby the mic again & again... Because he knows what Ur saying about them. But he doesn't care...

funkyhead said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

um so people have 2 pay for it to say whether they like it or not?

don't be daft. It's just basic manners in my book. Imagine if you cooked a meal for your loved one and it tasted like crap! and she/he didn't hold back on their criticism. You'd be hurt right?.

no not at all. if so said example existed and a loved one could offer up suggestions on how 2 make the meal better, no harm at all. '

it just seems on here of late, any criticism of prince's work is not allowed. i still think it's those that were on the npgmc wanting those love fests again.

IstenSzek said:

why does he

give Tamar, Bria and now Andy an album's worth of material and just

keeps Shelby in his live band?

I wish he'd treat her like all his other women, give her an album and

then send her packing.

It makes me wonder if she wants to record an album with Prince. She posted pics on her fb page a few weeks ago where she was in the studio and gave us the name of her album, "Just Shelby". Not sure if Prince has anything to do with it.

[Edited 4/23/12 11:17am]

It's making me laugh how many of you are getting stroppy because some orgers (like myself) don't like this jam.

While I think it's pointless to dismiss something as 'crap' etc, without giving a reason, I don't see why we are not allowed to express our opinion on a forum. Regardless of whether it's a freely available Jam or not. Does this mean i'm not allowed to express my disappointment over Planet Earth, which was given away free with a newspaper?

What it boils down to is freedom of speech. if you don't like criticism, ignore it. You don't have to agree, but it doesn't give you the right to moan at people who do dislike it. We do understand it's free, but that doesn't mean we have to like it.

This would have been way better if it was just "Ice Cream Castles"

The groove had me But Shelbys damn Mutiny chants ruins it

Imagine a 40 minute jam of Mutiny chants

Over all its not bad or good. Id say its ok

Still nice to see this stuff released. I wonder whats next

bluefish said:

Why do people think this is a DIG at FDeluxe and O7? Just because Prince picked Mutiny/Ice Cream Castles as the song(s)? I hate how most folks here automatically go to the negative interpretation of things.

Now, back to

Hi bluefish! You shouldn't just , you ought to once in a while.

Agree 100% about people always assuming the worst about another human being - I wonder if these people do that to others in real life too? I hope not, I hope it's "just" that it's easy to talk trash anonymously about a celebrity on the internet. I usually ignore it, but there will be a certain thread or comment that really strikes you as particularly odd/rude/unfair - I suppose for you, it's this thread. For me, it was all the "why didn't P publicly comment about Whitney? he must be an arrogant selfish prick who doesn't care about her!"

I enjoyed this rehearsal jam for what it is.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Larry is Prince's all time musical idol. He will always b in the mix whether U people like it or not. Don't like it. Don't go. Its as simple as that...

crack up when Prince deliberately tries 2 erk U & bring Larry on stage 4 the hundred time & give Shelby the mic again & again... Because he knows what Ur saying about them. But he doesn't care...

Sometimes I wonder if you're a grown man I'm 40 yrs old I could give two shits what Prince likes or dislikes as he does with us. He doesn't give a shit whether ur all up on his nutsack

Snoozefest. About as funky as an old sammich.

2freaky4church1 said:

Snoozefest. About as funky as an old sammich.

daPrettyman said:

IstenSzek said:

why does he

give Tamar, Bria and now Andy an album's worth of material and just

keeps Shelby in his live band?

I wish he'd treat her like all his other women, give her an album and

then send her packing.

It makes me wonder if she wants to record an album with Prince. She posted pics on her fb page a few weeks ago where she was in the studio and gave us the name of her album, "Just Shelby". Not sure if Prince has anything to do with it.

[Edited 4/23/12 11:17am]

Damn! somebody please give this woman a cd and send her packing. I did say please

nursev said:

daPrettyman said:

It makes me wonder if she wants to record an album with Prince. She posted pics on her fb page a few weeks ago where she was in the studio and gave us the name of her album, "Just Shelby". Not sure if Prince has anything to do with it.

[Edited 4/23/12 11:17am]

Damn! somebody please give this woman a cd and send her packing. I did say please

:FALLOFF:

I know what u mean. He sent Tamar packing and I actually enjoyed her.

daPrettyman said:

nursev said:

Damn! somebody please give this woman a cd and send her packing. I did say please

:FALLOFF:

I know what u mean. He sent Tamar packing and I actually enjoyed her.

I actually loved Tamar's voice and I like Shelby's voice, but she can be a bit too much to take at times. All her screaming and loud singing over shadows Prince alot and that's sad. Folks pay to see him-not her

nursev said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Larry is Prince's all time musical idol. He will always b in the mix whether U people like it or not. Don't like it. Don't go. Its as simple as that...

crack up when Prince deliberately tries 2 erk U & bring Larry on stage 4 the hundred time & give Shelby the mic again & again... Because he knows what Ur saying about them. But he doesn't care...

Sometimes I wonder if you're a grown man I'm 40 yrs old I could give two shits what Prince likes or dislikes as he does with us. He doesn't give a shit whether ur all up on his nutsack

Is it my imagination or have you...changed over the last year or so?

TheDigitalGardener said:

nursev said:

Sometimes I wonder if you're a grown man I'm 40 yrs old I could give two shits what Prince likes or dislikes as he does with us. He doesn't give a shit whether ur all up on his nutsack

Is it my imagination or have you...changed over the last year or so?

How so?

nursev said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

Is it my imagination or have you...changed over the last year or so?

How so?

Swearing, and not really giving a shit....and more swearing. You used to be all doey eyed and innocent.

IstenSzek said:

all his women seem to get lots of hate online. wether it be bria or andy or shelby or larry

TheDigitalGardener said:

nursev said:

How so?

Swearing, and not really giving a shit....and more swearing. You used to be all doey eyed and innocent.

I still am

^^

nursev said:

daPrettyman said:

:FALLOFF:

I know what u mean. He sent Tamar packing and I actually enjoyed her.

I actually loved Tamar's voice and I like Shelby's voice, but she can be a bit too much to take at times. All her screaming and loud singing over shadows Prince alot and that's sad. Folks pay to see him-not her

L4OATheOriginal said:

daPrettyman said:

nursev said:

I actually loved Tamar's voice and I like Shelby's voice, but she can be a bit too much to take at times. All her screaming and loud singing over shadows Prince alot and that's sad. Folks pay to see him-not her

I'm sorry Prettyman and Dig I'm not trying to be mean, but I have wanted to speak on Shelby for a while now. The last time I saw Prince I paid $300 for two seats and it was just Prince so I was happy. If he ever comes this way and I spend that kinda cheddar to have this woman all over the damn stage Imma be a mad bitch If I pay-I wanna see Prince and maybe an opening act-not try outs for Star Wars.

nursev said:

If he ever comes this way and I spend that kinda cheddar to have this woman all over the damn stage Imma be a mad bitch If I pay-I wanna see Prince and maybe an opening act-not try outs for Star Wars.

As a gay man I gotta say I think i'm in love with ya Nursev - you make me laugh so much with your comments. You echo my sentiments so often - but say iwhat i'm thinking way better than I ever could.

Only 2 days ago here in the UK we had the battle rounds of our run of The Voice - I swear some of the 'big voiced' women were screeching so damn hard I had to turn down/ mute/ fast forward them outta the mix just to keep watching. Some times singers can try too damn hard. This, Imho, is what Shelby is doing.

I feel sorry for Liv and Elisa - they must be mighty pissed coz not only is Shelby drowning Prince out but them too - when is their turn?!

Wendy and Lisa may not have had the best voices but they complimented prince - I have to say I'm with you - I wouldn't wanna pay big bucks to see Shelby's band with prince providing back up

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Mutiny said:

Untalented is a f***ing euphemism...

What about "excruciating"?

Sorry I couldn't go beyond Shelby's chorus...

Had to press "pause" and

If Shelby looked like Mayte or Salma Hayek U wouldn't be crucifying her like this...

I think Shelby is much better looking than Mayte. I also think she has great talent, and a fine voice. That doesn't stop me from thinking Prince has abused her role to the point of Self-Parody. Shouting "Put Your Hands Up," more than 10 times is weird. Shouting it over 100 times at a show is Self-Parody, and something a musician of Prince's level should never allow. She can sing, but if Prince is going to do a 90 minute concert, having her sing even one song is too much. Hey, I love Prince, but I don't have unconditional love for anybody. If Prince is screwing up, I'll give my opinion. I was laughed at for loving Lovesexy by friends, but now many of them respect me for sticking with Prince.

That lame ass siren noise in this is typical of Prince not being able to control his weak side. That same side that allowed Tony M to rap about Manure in My Name is Prince. Not too many people ever rap about Manure while wearing a Star Trek Next Generation outfit...do they?

i think its prince trying to legitamize his women that makes it hard to swallow .. like if carmen electras album sucks .. no body cares .. no body expected much .. but why is it that vanity singing about a vibrator sounds more pure, sincere and authentic than anything that comes out of shelbys mouth .. if prince had made a bria record full of slut jams people would have been delightfully impressed .. but all this oh andy allo is legitamate oh shelby is a bald bad ass sunday choir singer, and bria is a soul singer .. ug puke .. just write a song called my wet purple panties and hit start on your drum machine .. we need some truth up in this princeosphere .. lets just judge these women by their looks .. mayte was better looking than prince whole gold era of musical output .. shes a winner in my book, never bothered with her record .. andy looks sweaty and gross in all her pics .. shelby is just not rockin the bald look .. and neither have rose above tony m. status musically .. so prince please stop trying to legitimize your crappy back up band .. go back to playing with punks and musicians daughters .. that was the soup that made you ligitimate .. enough with all your hangers on

nursev said:

daPrettyman said:

I'm sorry Prettyman and Dig I'm not trying to be mean, but I have wanted to speak on Shelby for a while now. The last time I saw Prince I paid $300 for two seats and it was just Prince so I was happy. If he ever comes this way and I spend that kinda cheddar to have this woman all over the damn stage Imma be a mad bitch If I pay-I wanna see Prince and maybe an opening act-not try outs for Star Wars.

I totally feel ya.

stillwaiting said:

(Shelby) has great talent, and a fine voice. That doesn't stop me from thinking Prince has abused her role to the point of Self-Parody.

5 years ago I would've disagreed with this comment - i.e. O2 21 nights - I don't remember Shelby being overexposed or an issue back then and I loved the shows i attended (twins et al.)

However, how can prince not realise that the NPG is fast becoming the Shelby band with Prince the guitarist and back up singer - damn shame - it's been a looooooong 5 years and time to either replace Shelby or turn her mike down

2elijah said:

BobGeorge909 said:

2elijah said: This is where the problem lies.

What? Unselfishly allowing another artist to share the spotlight? Doesn't sound like a problem. He did the same with W&L when they were on stage with him in the past. That's how come their names are remembered among Prince's fan base. Besides, real talent lasts longer than a 'hot piece of ass'. Anyway, it's cool he's sharing snippets of the rehearsals with fans.

[Edited 4/23/12 9:34am]

Wendy & Lisa never sang lead live, and never overtook Prince's vocals. They also never lead the crowd through endless chants that simply took away the seriousness of the concert. For example, I love Elton John, but he joined Prince's band and simply chanted all the time, and took lead vocals on cover songs, it would be a waste of talent. Prince is wasting Shelby's talent on giving him less to do. It's obvious somebody isn't willing to do the work.

nursev said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Larry is Prince's all time musical idol. He will always b in the mix whether U people like it or not. Don't like it. Don't go. Its as simple as that...

crack up when Prince deliberately tries 2 erk U & bring Larry on stage 4 the hundred time & give Shelby the mic again & again... Because he knows what Ur saying about them. But he doesn't care...

Sometimes I wonder if you're a grown man I'm 40 yrs old I could give two shits what Prince likes or dislikes as he does with us. He doesn't give a shit whether ur all up on his nutsack

marry me

stillwaiting said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

If Shelby looked like Mayte or Salma Hayek U wouldn't be crucifying her like this...

I think Shelby is much better looking than Mayte. I also think she has great talent, and a fine voice. That doesn't stop me from thinking Prince has abused her role to the point of Self-Parody. Shouting "Put Your Hands Up," more than 10 times is weird. Shouting it over 100 times at a show is Self-Parody, and something a musician of Prince's level should never allow. She can sing, but if Prince is going to do a 90 minute concert, having her sing even one song is too much. Hey, I love Prince, but I don't have unconditional love for anybody. If Prince is screwing up, I'll give my opinion. I was laughed at for loving Lovesexy by friends, but now many of them respect me for sticking with Prince.

That lame ass siren noise in this is typical of Prince not being able to control his weak side. That same side that allowed Tony M to rap about Manure in My Name is Prince. Not too many people ever rap about Manure while wearing a Star Trek Next Generation outfit...do they?

Have U ever once thought that Prince cares about these people? That he gets joy being around them. It was obvious that he was very very close once 2 Tony M & loved being in his company. From being a fan of Prince 4 so long . 've noticed when he loves or cares about someone. He puts them on his payroll & helps them . WHAT THE EFF IS WRONG WITH THAT? HE LOVES LARRY, HE LOVES SHELBY.Deal with it or turn in ur purple card & go listen 2 someone else boo boo.

[Edited 4/23/12 13:20pm]

i really wanted to like this, prince's live versions of mutiny in 86,87 still leave me in a daze 25 years later. but for the love of *insert the name of your preferred superhero in the sky* this is fucking abysmal!!

my 85 year old grandmother can stifle funkier farts than this uncharismatic snoozefest. how can the man who created the minneapolis sound, a sound based on synths so punchy that they sent horns to notneededsville, now use keyboards so weak and pissy sounding??

where is the ZIP?

that's 10 mins of my life i'm never gonna get back!

what yall fail 2 realize prince is a man is his 50's who feel like has has no musical peers so answering 2 what somebody thinks of him has never been a concern of his . if u dont like shelby u know he not gonna dump her cuz u not diggin.shelby has a unique look that is great 4 offering prince a black feel something he been lacking alot he dont need the mayte hispanic /white look he a black man.dig if u will if not go follow john mayer.far as the time/the family i really dont think prince wanna rehash working with his past they all made offers and he refused em all.notice yet when morris/jerome/sheila/rosie any of em wanna jump on stage with him he all aboard. prince seem like he al about promoting new faces now tamar/shelby/bira/andy.plus he said on tavis he dont like working with men at all so just stop being negative and just enjoy cuz prince hasnt said nothing 2 indicate that he dont like morris or paul none of them fellas and they all kiss his ass when he allow them 2 so chill

nursev said:

daPrettyman said:

I'm sorry Prettyman and Dig I'm not trying to be mean, but I have wanted to speak on Shelby for a while now. The last time I saw Prince I paid $300 for two seats and it was just Prince so I was happy. If he ever comes this way and I spend that kinda cheddar to have this woman all over the damn stage Imma be a mad bitch If I pay-I wanna see Prince and maybe an opening act-not try outs for Star Wars.

someone used 2 call those outfits "rejects from space ghost" lol

nursev said:

daPrettyman said:

I'm sorry Prettyman and Dig I'm not trying to be mean, but I have wanted to speak on Shelby for a while now. The last time I saw Prince I paid $300 for two seats and it was just Prince so I was happy. If he ever comes this way and I spend that kinda cheddar to have this woman all over the damn stage Imma be a mad bitch If I pay-I wanna see Prince and maybe an opening act-not try outs for Star Wars.

just be grateful u didn't fork out your dosh in the 90s to see Star Trek auditionees. did tony, kirk or damon ever get a part?

stillwaiting said:

2elijah said:

What? Unselfishly allowing another artist to share the spotlight? Doesn't sound like a problem. He did the same with W&L when they were on stage with him in the past. That's how come their names are remembered among Prince's fan base. Besides, real talent lasts longer than a 'hot piece of ass'. Anyway, it's cool he's sharing snippets of the rehearsals with fans.

[Edited 4/23/12 9:34am]

Wendy & Lisa never sang lead live, and never overtook Prince's vocals. They also never lead the crowd through endless chants that simply took away the seriousness of the concert. For example, I love Elton John, but he joined Prince's band and simply chanted all the time, and took lead vocals on cover songs, it would be a waste of talent. Prince is wasting Shelby's talent on giving him less to do. It's obvious somebody isn't willing to do the work.

wendy did take over vocals for I wonder u but that's nothing like what ur saying i understand.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

stillwaiting said:

I think Shelby is much better looking than Mayte. I also think she has great talent, and a fine voice. That doesn't stop me from thinking Prince has abused her role to the point of Self-Parody. Shouting "Put Your Hands Up," more than 10 times is weird. Shouting it over 100 times at a show is Self-Parody, and something a musician of Prince's level should never allow. She can sing, but if Prince is going to do a 90 minute concert, having her sing even one song is too much. Hey, I love Prince, but I don't have unconditional love for anybody. If Prince is screwing up, I'll give my opinion. I was laughed at for loving Lovesexy by friends, but now many of them respect me for sticking with Prince.

That lame ass siren noise in this is typical of Prince not being able to control his weak side. That same side that allowed Tony M to rap about Manure in My Name is Prince. Not too many people ever rap about Manure while wearing a Star Trek Next Generation outfit...do they?

Have U ever once thought that Prince cares about these people? That he gets joy being around them. It was obvious that he was very very close once 2 Tony M & loved being in his company. From being a fan of Prince 4 so long . 've noticed when he loves or cares about someone. He puts them on his payroll & helps them . WHAT THE EFF IS WRONG WITH THAT? HE LOVES LARRY, HE LOVES SHELBY.Deal with it or turn in ur purple card & go listen 2 someone else boo boo.

[Edited 4/23/12 13:20pm]

he loved tony m so much that tony had 2 sue just 2 get credit and royalties for his contributions boo boo ...again school's in!

This is just ok. The funk has been watered down a bit, and too many female vocals. I like the Dance Electric a little better. That siren sound is typical Prince using a Goofball sound effect instead of just letting the music jam instead.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Mutiny said:

Why are you saying this?

Shelby's voice irritates me as much as Mayte's.

But Mayte never had such a dominant position at P's shows!

And for more than 5 M.F. YEARS now !!! Got it?

Mayte was Prince main dancer 4 over 3 years. never heard all this criticism over her. Like U people show toward Shelby. Prince even produced Mayte's album....All this hate & dis respectfulness U show toward her needs to stop. Obviously Prince doesn't care. Because he keeps putting her out front even more. So he obviously reads what U say about her.

I have a feeling if you paid $324 for a Prince concert that turned out to be 110 minutes with Shelby singing lead on 10 songs, Prince singing lead on 3, and if Shelby had a 20 minute version of her "Put Your Hands Up Chant" featuring Tony M, you would probably say it was the most fantastic thing you ever heard.

Like I said before, Shelby has great vocal talent, but when I pay huge money for a Prince concert, I want a focused Prince concert, not annoying chants and songs cut short by shortened song lyrics, and Backup singers taking center stage too much.

stillwaiting said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Mayte was Prince main dancer 4 over 3 years. never heard all this criticism over her. Like U people show toward Shelby. Prince even produced Mayte's album....All this hate & dis respectfulness U show toward her needs to stop. Obviously Prince doesn't care. Because he keeps putting her out front even more. So he obviously reads what U say about her.

I have a feeling if you paid $324 for a Prince concert that turned out to be 110 minutes with Shelby singing lead on 10 songs, Prince singing lead on 3, and if Shelby had a 20 minute version of her "Put Your Hands Up Chant" featuring Tony M, you would probably say it was the most fantastic thing you ever heard.

Like I said before, Shelby has great vocal talent, but when I pay huge money for a Prince concert, I want a focused Prince concert, not annoying chants and songs cut short by shortened song lyrics, and Backup singers taking center stage too much.

it would be called "a masterpiece" perfomance

uuhson said:

is it so wrong that i think the fact that shelby is bald and generally odd looking does add to not enjoying her? especially when you see something live, visuals do play some kind of role

What's wrong is that you ask if it's wrong to say this.

Yes it's wrong and you are a terrible person for stating the obvious.

.

[Edited 4/23/12 13:38pm]

TrevorAyer said:

i think its prince trying to legitamize his women that makes it hard to swallow .. like if carmen electras album sucks .. no body cares .. no body expected much .. but why is it that vanity singing about a vibrator sounds more pure, sincere and authentic than anything that comes out of shelbys mouth .. if prince had made a bria record full of slut jams people would have been delightfully impressed .. but all this oh andy allo is legitamate oh shelby is a bald bad ass sunday choir singer, and bria is a soul singer .. ug puke .. just write a song called my wet purple panties and hit start on your drum machine .. we need some truth up in this princeosphere .. lets just judge these women by their looks .. mayte was better looking than prince whole gold era of musical output .. shes a winner in my book, never bothered with her record .. andy looks sweaty and gross in all her pics .. shelby is just not rockin the bald look .. and neither have rose above tony m. status musically .. so prince please stop trying to legitimize your crappy back up band .. go back to playing with punks and musicians daughters .. that was the soup that made you ligitimate .. enough with all your hangers on

hands down the best post on here mate!

FunkiestOne said:

uuhson said:

is it so wrong that i think the fact that shelby is bald and generally odd looking does add to not enjoying her? especially when you see something live, visuals do play some kind of role

What's wrong is that you ask if it's wrong to say this.

Yes it's wrong and you are a terrible person for stating the obvious.

.

[Edited 4/23/12 13:38pm]

maybe if the music was in any way captivating him he wouldn't even notice? just a thought.

[Edited 4/23/12 13:46pm]

stillwaiting said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Mayte was Prince main dancer 4 over 3 years. never heard all this criticism over her. Like U people show toward Shelby. Prince even produced Mayte's album....All this hate & dis respectfulness U show toward her needs to stop. Obviously Prince doesn't care. Because he keeps putting her out front even more. So he obviously reads what U say about her.

I have a feeling if you paid $324 for a Prince concert that turned out to be 110 minutes with Shelby singing lead on 10 songs, Prince singing lead on 3, and if Shelby had a 20 minute version of her "Put Your Hands Up Chant" featuring Tony M, you would probably say it was the most fantastic thing you ever heard.

Like I said before, Shelby has great vocal talent, but when I pay huge money for a Prince concert, I want a focused Prince concert, not annoying chants and songs cut short by shortened song lyrics, and Backup singers taking center stage too much.

Maybe the shows have changed up drastically since I saw the three Welcome to America shows in NY and NJ but Shelby did NOT sing lead on 10 songs and was NOT center stage. Most of the time my eyes were on Prince the whole time. This is an over-exaggerating.

stillwaiting said:

2elijah said:

What? Unselfishly allowing another artist to share the spotlight? Doesn't sound like a problem. He did the same with W&L when they were on stage with him in the past. That's how come their names are remembered among Prince's fan base. Besides, real talent lasts longer than a 'hot piece of ass'. Anyway, it's cool he's sharing snippets of the rehearsals with fans.

[Edited 4/23/12 9:34am]

Wendy & Lisa never sang lead live, and never overtook Prince's vocals. They also never lead the crowd through endless chants that simply took away the seriousness of the concert. For example, I love Elton John, but he joined Prince's band and simply chanted all the time, and took lead vocals on cover songs, it would be a waste of talent. Prince is wasting Shelby's talent on giving him less to do. It's obvious somebody isn't willing to do the work.

The point is, W&L had had heavy exposure during their time with him and their names were pretty much liinked to his more than the other band members at the time, so whether they didn't sing lead with him on stage, they had plenty of he spotlight shine on them, and they did 'sing' with him on stage, during many of the concerts with him over the years. Now he's giving other artists the spotlight, especially since he's given so much of his own talent over the years, and continues to do so. Also, that last statement makes no sense. How is he wasting Shelby's talent? She she gets a chance to display her singing skills/talent on stage with him, as well as the other band members. Like I said, it's apparent Prince is content with her as a band member.

When you actually get to be the leader of Prince's band, then you can call the shots, but at the moment, you don't have a kernel of popcorn to do either.

[Edited 4/23/12 13:52pm]

wonder505 said:

stillwaiting said:

I have a feeling if you paid $324 for a Prince concert that turned out to be 110 minutes with Shelby singing lead on 10 songs, Prince singing lead on 3, and if Shelby had a 20 minute version of her "Put Your Hands Up Chant" featuring Tony M, you would probably say it was the most fantastic thing you ever heard.

Like I said before, Shelby has great vocal talent, but when I pay huge money for a Prince concert, I want a focused Prince concert, not annoying chants and songs cut short by shortened song lyrics, and Backup singers taking center stage too much.

Maybe the shows have changed up drastically since I saw the three Welcome to America shows in NY and NJ but Shelby did NOT sing lead on 10 songs and was NOT center stage. Most of the time my eyes were on Prince the whole time. This is an over-exaggerating.

[Edited 4/23/12 13:53pm]

I wish everyone who feels they know what Prince should and shouldn't be doing musically would put together a band themselves and show us what we're all supposedly missing! That's the problem on here too many critics with the answers to the supposed problems of this mans 30 plus year career. If you all know what's is and what isn't funky then put you money where your mouth is and drop your CD and blow us all away. Until then it's all just .

HonestMan13 said:

I wish everyone who feels they know what Prince should and shouldn't be doing musically would put together a band themselves and show us what we're all supposedly missing! That's the problem on here too many critics with the answers to the supposed problems of this mans 30 plus year career. If you all know what's is and what isn't funky then put you money where your mouth is and drop your CD and blow us all away. Until then it's all just .

Well people can state their opinion, good or bad, as long as they realize their opinions mean nothing outside of the Org.

L4OATheOriginal said:

stillwaiting said:

I have a feeling if you paid $324 for a Prince concert that turned out to be 110 minutes with Shelby singing lead on 10 songs, Prince singing lead on 3, and if Shelby had a 20 minute version of her "Put Your Hands Up Chant" featuring Tony M, you would probably say it was the most fantastic thing you ever heard.

Like I said before, Shelby has great vocal talent, but when I pay huge money for a Prince concert, I want a focused Prince concert, not annoying chants and songs cut short by shortened song lyrics, and Backup singers taking center stage too much.

it would be called "a masterpiece" perfomance

That's right, and if you didn't like it, well then Prince was just going to do it some more because he gets a kick out of annoying the fans, boo boo.

Y'all are crackin' me the fuck up! I'm lovin' this! Take him to school, cuzzins.

[Edited 4/23/12 14:34pm]

HonestMan13 said:

I wish everyone who feels they know what Prince should and shouldn't be doing musically would put together a band themselves and show us what we're all supposedly missing! That's the problem on here too many critics with the answers to the supposed problems of this mans 30 plus year career. If you all know what's is and what isn't funky then put you money where your mouth is and drop your CD and blow us all away. Until then it's all just .

there is no need 4 anyone 2 put their own cd or band together 2 state the obvious what's missing. now i will say that i didn't see fdeluxe when they came 2 NYC recently but i belive u did. their version of mutiny was WAY FUNKIER and more HARD HITTING then this. but that's what missing in prince's current state, the funk! the use of keyboards and or keyboard players that aren't hitting the mark. seriously look up any previous version of mutiny prince has done and listen 2 this version back 2 back and u can tell the difference. but my taste of funk maybe different from yours and others. i can just tell what's missing.

L4OATheOriginal said:

HonestMan13 said:

I wish everyone who feels they know what Prince should and shouldn't be doing musically would put together a band themselves and show us what we're all supposedly missing! That's the problem on here too many critics with the answers to the supposed problems of this mans 30 plus year career. If you all know what's is and what isn't funky then put you money where your mouth is and drop your CD and blow us all away. Until then it's all just .

there is no need 4 anyone 2 put their own cd or band together 2 state the obvious what's missing. now i will say that i didn't see fdeluxe when they came 2 NYC recently but i belive u did. their version of mutiny was WAY FUNKIER and more HARD HITTING then this. but that's what missing in prince's current state, the funk! the use of keyboards and or keyboard players that aren't hitting the mark. seriously look up any previous version of mutiny prince has done and listen 2 this version back 2 back and u can tell the difference. but my taste of funk maybe different from yours and others. i can just tell what's missing.

It sounded great when he played it last year, presumably with the same band. Listen to the Melkweg boot.

Whiskas31 said:

It's making me laugh how many of you are getting stroppy because some orgers (like myself) don't like this jam.

While I think it's pointless to dismiss something as 'crap' etc, without giving a reason, I don't see why we are not allowed to express our opinion on a forum. Regardless of whether it's a freely available Jam or not. Does this mean i'm not allowed to express my disappointment over Planet Earth, which was given away free with a newspaper?

What it boils down to is freedom of speech. if you don't like criticism, ignore it. You don't have to agree, but it doesn't give you the right to moan at people who do dislike it. We do understand it's free, but that doesn't mean we have to like it.

it's a fair point you make. I think I'm just annoyed that a loose jam session that's been given for free is being taken wayyyyyyy too seriously. If anyone bothers to read my posts you will notice the ideal combo of kiss ass 'i love p' type threads equally mixed with 'what the fuck was that' type threads!. There must always be balance!.

80spfantwp said:

nursev said:

If he ever comes this way and I spend that kinda cheddar to have this woman all over the damn stage Imma be a mad bitch If I pay-I wanna see Prince and maybe an opening act-not try outs for Star Wars.

As a gay man I gotta say I think i'm in love with ya Nursev - you make me laugh so much with your comments. You echo my sentiments so often - but say iwhat i'm thinking way better than I ever could.

Only 2 days ago here in the UK we had the battle rounds of our run of The Voice - I swear some of the 'big voiced' women were screeching so damn hard I had to turn down/ mute/ fast forward them outta the mix just to keep watching. Some times singers can try too damn hard. This, Imho, is what Shelby is doing.

I feel sorry for Liv and Elisa - they must be mighty pissed coz not only is Shelby drowning Prince out but them too - when is their turn?!

Wendy and Lisa may not have had the best voices but they complimented prince - I have to say I'm with you - I wouldn't wanna pay big bucks to see Shelby's band with prince providing back up

I try to tell the truth about things and not to hurt Shelby's feelings but I think ur exactly right that she is trying to hard to the point that it is overkill I know she is Prince's "hype" woman, but damn even Flava Flav the best hype man ever knew when to step aside, shut-up and let Chuck D do his thing. Shelby needs to learn when to tone it down. She's over shadowing Prince. Even on this short rehearsal fans can hear it so it is 3X's worse in concert. I agree with you 100%.

L4OATheOriginal said:

nursev said:

Sometimes I wonder if you're a grown man I'm 40 yrs old I could give two shits what Prince likes or dislikes as he does with us. He doesn't give a shit whether ur all up on his nutsack

marry me

it had to be said

robertgeorgeakabob said:

nursev said:

I'm sorry Prettyman and Dig I'm not trying to be mean, but I have wanted to speak on Shelby for a while now. The last time I saw Prince I paid $300 for two seats and it was just Prince so I was happy. If he ever comes this way and I spend that kinda cheddar to have this woman all over the damn stage Imma be a mad bitch If I pay-I wanna see Prince and maybe an opening act-not try outs for Star Wars.

just be grateful u didn't fork out your dosh in the 90s to see Star Trek auditionees. did tony, kirk or damon ever get a part?

paulludvig said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

there is no need 4 anyone 2 put their own cd or band together 2 state the obvious what's missing. now i will say that i didn't see fdeluxe when they came 2 NYC recently but i belive u did. their version of mutiny was WAY FUNKIER and more HARD HITTING then this. but that's what missing in prince's current state, the funk! the use of keyboards and or keyboard players that aren't hitting the mark. seriously look up any previous version of mutiny prince has done and listen 2 this version back 2 back and u can tell the difference. but my taste of funk maybe different from yours and others. i can just tell what's missing.

It sounded great when he played it last year, presumably with the same band. Listen to the Melkweg boot.

i'll have 2 take ur word 4 it since i gave up listening 2 his boots with this band after seeing him in nyc

nursev said:

80spfantwp said:

As a gay man I gotta say I think i'm in love with ya Nursev - you make me laugh so much with your comments. You echo my sentiments so often - but say iwhat i'm thinking way better than I ever could.

Only 2 days ago here in the UK we had the battle rounds of our run of The Voice - I swear some of the 'big voiced' women were screeching so damn hard I had to turn down/ mute/ fast forward them outta the mix just to keep watching. Some times singers can try too damn hard. This, Imho, is what Shelby is doing.

I feel sorry for Liv and Elisa - they must be mighty pissed coz not only is Shelby drowning Prince out but them too - when is their turn?!

Wendy and Lisa may not have had the best voices but they complimented prince - I have to say I'm with you - I wouldn't wanna pay big bucks to see Shelby's band with prince providing back up

I try to tell the truth about things and not to hurt Shelby's feelings but I think ur exactly right that she is trying to hard to the point that it is overkill I know she is Prince's "hype" woman, but damn even Flava Flav the best hype man ever knew when to step aside, shut-up and let Chuck D do his thing. Shelby needs to learn when to tone it down. She's over shadowing Prince. Even on this short rehearsal fans can hear it so it is 3X's worse in concert. I agree with you 100%.

If I may chime in no show that Prince does, does he allow this overshadowing you've mentioned. If there are sound and lighting issues that's typically out of his hands but, who sings what and where, he's dictating who does what and when. Let's not forget that ...

PurpleLove7 said:

nursev said:

I try to tell the truth about things and not to hurt Shelby's feelings but I think ur exactly right that she is trying to hard to the point that it is overkill I know she is Prince's "hype" woman, but damn even Flava Flav the best hype man ever knew when to step aside, shut-up and let Chuck D do his thing. Shelby needs to learn when to tone it down. She's over shadowing Prince. Even on this short rehearsal fans can hear it so it is 3X's worse in concert. I agree with you 100%.

If I may chime in no show that Prince does, does he allow this overshadowing you've mentioned. If there are sound and lighting issues that's typically out of his hands but, who sings what and where, he's dictating who does what and when. Let's not forget that ...

Very true-so you would think a musical genius like Prince would take some advice from fans and have Shelby tone it down. She can sing, but like I said folks pay to see Prince. I know she gives Prince a break from having to sing all the time, but honestly he has fans that have been there since 78/79 and they deserve to hear only him.

Let's look at this more...Take superstars like Madonna, Janet, etc. you don't see them allowing a background singer to over shadow them. Madonna fans would be mad as hell if that happened. Hell even Michael (may he rest in peace) would allow folks to sing, but not take over the show

nursev said:

Let's look at this more...Take superstars like Madonna, Janet, etc. you don't see them allowing a background singer to over shadow them. Madonna fans would be mad as hell if that happened. Hell even Michael (may he rest in peace) would allow folks to sing, but not take over the show

if one of madonna's back up singers so much as mistakenly sang one line too many

you know she'd get punched in the throat by madge backstage asap.

IstenSzek said:

nursev said:

Let's look at this more...Take superstars like Madonna, Janet, etc. you don't see them allowing a background singer to over shadow them. Madonna fans would be mad as hell if that happened. Hell even Michael (may he rest in peace) would allow folks to sing, but not take over the show

if one of madonna's back up singers so much as mistakenly sang one line too many

you know she'd get punched in the throat by madge backstage asap.

nursev said:

Let's look at this more...Take superstars like Madonna, Janet, etc. you don't see them allowing a background singer to over shadow them. Madonna fans would be mad as hell if that happened. Hell even Michael (may he rest in peace) would allow folks to sing, but not take over the show

can you show me evidence of where/when/how Shelby took over a show, because as I said, I've been to three Welcome 2 America concerts and I saw no such thing.

now if you simply dont like Shelby and think her voice doesnt mix well thats a different story.

This "rehearsal jam" is meh. I really, really like the Dance Electric rehearsal outtake--the best part of that one, imo, is the awesome guitar solo at the beginning. Mutiny/Ice Cream Castles is just an average funk workout. The only thing I like about this new one is that Prince didn't sing Ice Cream Castles. That song is probably my least favorite song by The Time.

As far as this track being a dis at fDeluxe and O7, I really hope not. It might be. And if so, that is really immature by Prince.

wonder505 said:

nursev said:

Let's look at this more...Take superstars like Madonna, Janet, etc. you don't see them allowing a background singer to over shadow them. Madonna fans would be mad as hell if that happened. Hell even Michael (may he rest in peace) would allow folks to sing, but not take over the show

can you show me evidence of where/when/how Shelby took over a show, because as I said, I've been to three Welcome 2 America concerts and I saw no such thing.

Every show I've ever seen and heard-she does a bit much. Just last night I was listening to Prince sing Which Way Is Up and as soon as I started to enjoy it here comes Shelby with her "loud" vocals-just threw everything off. Seriously, I remember loving Shelby's voice singing Misty Blue-it is beautiful, but when I pay to see Prince I wanna hear Prince. Chances to see Prince in concert are few and far between for some of us.

I think as a solo singer her voice would work well, but as a background vocalist it's too much.

nursev said:

wonder505 said:

can you show me evidence of where/when/how Shelby took over a show, because as I said, I've been to three Welcome 2 America concerts and I saw no such thing.

Every show I've ever seen and heard-she does a bit much. Just last night I was listening to Prince sing Which Way Is Up and as soon as I started to enjoy it here comes Shelby with her "loud" vocals-just threw everything off. Seriously, I remember loving Shelby's voice singing Misty Blue-it is beautiful, but when I pay to see Prince I wanna hear Prince. Chances to see Prince in concert are few and far between for some of us.

Okay so you don't like her as a backup singer for Prince, which is fine. But that has nothing to do with her taking over a show because that never happened.

wonder505 said:

nursev said:

Every show I've ever seen and heard-she does a bit much. Just last night I was listening to Prince sing Which Way Is Up and as soon as I started to enjoy it here comes Shelby with her "loud" vocals-just threw everything off. Seriously, I remember loving Shelby's voice singing Misty Blue-it is beautiful, but when I pay to see Prince I wanna hear Prince. Chances to see Prince in concert are few and far between for some of us.

Okay so you don't like her as a backup singer for Prince, which is fine. But that has nothing to do with her taking over a show because that never happened.

I'm sorry that you are misunderstanding some where-but her vocals do overshadow Prince's.

nursev said:

I think as a solo singer her voice would work well, but as a background vocalist it's too much.

Yeah thats' fair enough.

nursev said:

wonder505 said:

Okay so you don't like her as a backup singer for Prince, which is fine. But that has nothing to do with her taking over a show because that never happened.

I'm sorry that you are misunderstanding some where-but her vocals do overshadow Prince's.

I think we're on the same page. Just from a concert standpoint she is not center stage, but I see how some feel that her voice is a bit too strong as a backup singer.

wonder505 said:

nursev said:

I'm sorry that you are misunderstanding some where-but her vocals do overshadow Prince's.

I think we're on the same page. Just from a concert standpoint she is not center stage, but I see how some feel that her voice is a bit too strong as a backup singer.

That's all I'm saying.

OK...

1st thought...This, a friggin jam session of old songs, is what all the hype via twitter, DrStunk, etc has been about? Good lawd...boring.

2nd - I listened. And got exactly what I was expecting...a tired new retread version of a classic into a concert jam. NEXTTTTTTTT

3rd - where's the real news...When you dropping NEW music P?

p.s. but dont get me entirely wrong...This will be fonktastic LIVE!

nursev said:

I think as a solo singer her voice would work well, but as a background vocalist it's too much.

i had the same problem with rosie gaines. boni during 87-88 was just perfect. i loved her raspy, smokey feel, simmering but rarely boiling over.

though to be fair i don't see why anybody should feel malice to any of the band members. they do as they told n they don't challenge prince's ego. i'm a window cleaner that has spent years developing my tuneless, unmelodic whistle. if prince paid me a penny over 500 quid a week i'd gladly join the band and slaughter purple rain et al by waving a flag and whistling over the harmonies.

the buck stops entirely with His Royal Blandness.

robertgeorgeakabob said:

nursev said:

I think as a solo singer her voice would work well, but as a background vocalist it's too much.

i had the same problem with rosie gaines. boni during 87-88 was just perfect. i loved her raspy, smokey feel, simmering but rarely boiling over.

though to be fair i don't see why anybody should feel malice to any of the band members. they do as they told n they don't challenge prince's ego. i'm a window cleaner that has spent years developing my tuneless, unmelodic whistle. if prince paid me a penny over 500 quid a week i'd gladly join the band and slaughter purple rain et al by waving a flag and whistling over the harmonies.

the buck stops entirely with His Royal Blandness.

I say bring back Bonnie Boyer!!!!

2020 said:

robertgeorgeakabob said:

i had the same problem with rosie gaines. boni during 87-88 was just perfect. i loved her raspy, smokey feel, simmering but rarely boiling over.

though to be fair i don't see why anybody should feel malice to any of the band members. they do as they told n they don't challenge prince's ego. i'm a window cleaner that has spent years developing my tuneless, unmelodic whistle. if prince paid me a penny over 500 quid a week i'd gladly join the band and slaughter purple rain et al by waving a flag and whistling over the harmonies.

the buck stops entirely with His Royal Blandness.

I say bring back Bonnie Boyer!!!!

I'd be all for Hologram Boni Boyer.

robertgeorgeakabob said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

HonestMan13 said:

I wish everyone who feels they know what Prince should and shouldn't be doing musically would put together a band themselves and show us what we're all supposedly missing! That's the problem on here too many critics with the answers to the supposed problems of this mans 30 plus year career. If you all know what's is and what isn't funky then put you money where your mouth is and drop your CD and blow us all away. Until then it's all just .

there is no need 4 anyone 2 put their own cd or band together 2 state the obvious what's missing. now i will say that i didn't see fdeluxe when they came 2 NYC recently but i belive u did. their version of mutiny was WAY FUNKIER and more HARD HITTING then this. but that's what missing in prince's current state, the funk! the use of keyboards and or keyboard players that aren't hitting the mark. seriously look up any previous version of mutiny prince has done and listen 2 this version back 2 back and u can tell the difference. but my taste of funk maybe different from yours and others. i can just tell what's missing.

So if you know what's missing what's to stop you from putting it in there with your own lineup? And when i say 'you' I mean anybody who 'knows what's missing'. What's to stop 'you' from putting it in there and showing Prince how it's supposed to be done then? If you have a specific idea of what is wrong with something then shouldn't you have a good idea on how to fix it?

HonestMan13 said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

there is no need 4 anyone 2 put their own cd or band together 2 state the obvious what's missing. now i will say that i didn't see fdeluxe when they came 2 NYC recently but i belive u did. their version of mutiny was WAY FUNKIER and more HARD HITTING then this. but that's what missing in prince's current state, the funk! the use of keyboards and or keyboard players that aren't hitting the mark. seriously look up any previous version of mutiny prince has done and listen 2 this version back 2 back and u can tell the difference. but my taste of funk maybe different from yours and others. i can just tell what's missing.

So if you know what's missing what's to stop you from putting it in there with your own lineup? And when i say 'you' I mean anybody who 'knows what's missing'. What's to stop 'you' from putting it in there and showing Prince how it's supposed to be done then? If you have a specific idea of what is wrong with something then shouldn't you have a good idea on how to fix it?

cause it's either prince's way or nobody's way. u forget he's surrounded himself with yes boss people. sonny t would tell him get the fuck outta here with that shit.

Home from work, tired, just heard it and it perked me up 100 and something %. Dancin all over the place!

ps

U promised to come back to MPLS!

2020 said:

robertgeorgeakabob said:

i had the same problem with rosie gaines. boni during 87-88 was just perfect. i loved her raspy, smokey feel, simmering but rarely boiling over.

though to be fair i don't see why anybody should feel malice to any of the band members. they do as they told n they don't challenge prince's ego. i'm a window cleaner that has spent years developing my tuneless, unmelodic whistle. if prince paid me a penny over 500 quid a week i'd gladly join the band and slaughter purple rain et al by waving a flag and whistling over the harmonies.

the buck stops entirely with His Royal Blandness.

I say bring back Bonnie Boyer!!!!

Yeah, some really hideous screaming (a la the Trojan Horse Forever In My Life) would be such an improvement.

Genesia said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

kewlschool said:

It's a great rendition of a classic song. It's just a different version folks, no need to get your panties in a wad.

toejam said:

I'm enjoying this.

I think some of you are taking this all too seriously - It's a rehearsal jam... that is all. Funky for what it is.

... too

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Genesia said:

Yeah, some really hideous screaming (a la the Trojan Horse Forever In My Life) would be such an improvement.

You named ONE song, ONE performance versus practically every fuckin' night and every performance with Shelby "Put yo' hands up" J. Not even close.

So you've seen Shelby with Prince "every fuckin' night," have you? I doubt that.

I've actually seen Shelby with Prince several times and she's been just fine. The times that he has her (or the girls) sing an actual song are usually the times he does a wardrobe change. Frankly, it's nice that the band keeps going - better that than leaving the stage empty for as long as it takes him to change and/or grab a drink.

Bonnie's caterwauling totally ruined several Small Club songs. I don't mean to speak ill of the dead, but I was never a fan.

IstenSzek said:

uuhson said:

is it so wrong that i think the fact that shelby is bald and generally odd looking does add to not enjoying her? especially when you see something live, visuals do play some kind of role

actually, i think that's part of her appeal. she's not some generic dime a dozen lady.

she's got her own style and that's pretty cool.

i just don't want anyone taking that much prime time at a prince show. wether it's

shelby or larry or andy or whomever.

i'm paying to see prince perform HIS songs. if prince wants us to be exposed to the

talents of other people, he should put them on as his opening act.

there'd be absolutely no problem with shelby doing a 30 minute set before his show

starts. or larry (well, i wouldn't mind never seeing larry live again, but you know),

or andy etc.

but when prince hits the stage, it better be prince all the way. some nice backups or

a short cameo, ok, but that's all.

i'd pick prince and an acoustic guitar, just strumming and singing acoustic versions

of his songs all night over any kind of show, no matter how spectacular, that has a

whole plethora of guests and mc's etc going on.

...and now back to this...

NeonCraxx said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

cause it's either prince's way or nobody's way. u forget he's surrounded himself with yes boss people. sonny t would tell him get the fuck outta here with that shit.

How do you know this?

cause wendy and lisa would tell prince when shit was whack or it wasn't working. sonny would tell him as well. no one in this current band has the balls 2 tell him when shit is whack nor any of his personal team.

if u wanna take it a step further in his business aspects, why do u really think grafitti bridge took 3 years to get done? it was because his management team knew the script was bullshit.

Gohi said:

I don't think that was Larry in the second verse, just Prince in his lower register.

I'm underwhelmed but I still think it could work well live.

Somebody said something about Larry singing but that is not Larry, it's Prince.

rubymoon53 said:

Gohi said:

I don't think that was Larry in the second verse, just Prince in his lower register.

Oopsie! I just saw this post...Gohi is correct.

So he's just randomly sending people music to fuck with them?

Kinda shitty of him to do - I imagine that he knows full well that they're expecting reunion talk or something like that and he just jerks them around.

If I were them I'd start sending that shit back with a dozen black roses. Like, "The past is dead and gone, and so is our interest in you and whatever you're doing. Go the fuck away."

Genesia said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

Its not the original Mutiny or Ice Cream Castles and I'd guess not intended to be.

Can't deny though as a concert jam (if he includes it) this will be off the hook, "chants" and all, really! The Aussies will be dancing their "arses" off...lol.

Definitely was a unique arrangement! Who else but Prince would have put those 2 songs together? He wrote such a great song but I personally think this version is so much better!

http://www.youtube.com/wa...6cUHiTGUxc

L4OATheOriginal said:

HonestMan13 said:

So if you know what's missing what's to stop you from putting it in there with your own lineup? And when i say 'you' I mean anybody who 'knows what's missing'. What's to stop 'you' from putting it in there and showing Prince how it's supposed to be done then? If you have a specific idea of what is wrong with something then shouldn't you have a good idea on how to fix it?

cause it's either prince's way or nobody's way. u forget he's surrounded himself with yes boss people. sonny t would tell him get the fuck outta here with that shit.

My point is you have orgers claiming they know what it takes to make a better funk album than what Prince is currently doing. They're just keeping these epiphanies to themselves or has an orger made a better funk album than Prince already?

NeonCraxx said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

cause wendy and lisa would tell prince when shit was whack or it wasn't working. sonny would tell him as well. no one in this current band has the balls 2 tell him when shit is whack nor any of his personal team.

if u wanna take it a step further in his business aspects, why do u really think grafitti bridge took 3 years to get done? it was because his management team knew the script was bullshit.

Have you spoken to the management? Have you witnessed their reactions to Prince's business plans? Your point is unjustifiable. Goodnight.

no wonder ur school grades are failing cause u keep cutting history class

HonestMan13 said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

cause it's either prince's way or nobody's way. u forget he's surrounded himself with yes boss people. sonny t would tell him get the fuck outta here with that shit.

My point is you have orgers claiming they know what it takes to make a better funk album than what Prince is currently doing. They're just keeping these epiphanies to themselves or has an orger made a better funk album than Prince already?

there are orgers on here who are musicians themselves and have done tracks and albums ya know

NeonCraxx said:

Fuck a history class. It's called common sense. Something you lack every time you log on.

which is what u lack everytime ur fingers touch a keyboard no matter what it is ur doing

it's okay junior, i'm here 2 educate u in the history class of prince since u weren't born at the time 2 realize what was going on. u can't read everything on wikipedia and thinks that's just the lesson now can u?

but 2 show i have no hard feelings i'm gonna help u:

if u can find these two books alone : the vault and D.M.S.R. by per neilsen

read them and learn something

I dont get why people would suggest that he play this during his Australian shows!?

Sure it would be nice for a hardcore fan, but I reckon there would be 100 people in total that would know Ice Cream Castles, let alone Mutiny.

SO; I took the time to read ALL of the comment here..AND Whew!!!

It's clear there is difference of opinion, and people think this is the WORST thing they ever heard, but I want to put it in perspective AGAIN. THIS IS A REHEARSAL.

It's not suppose to sound like it could in a studio, etc...There will always be something missing and off, that's why they rehearse.

Even though some of his rehearsals are better than live studio cuts...lol REBIRTH OF THE FLESH ANYONE? lol

FOR a rehearsal, it sounds pretty decent. The song has never been one of my favorites, BUT this spin on it.. is pretty FUNKY!

His voice and direction here...I like! I like it when he sounds like this..Haha

It's not as bad as some people are making out of it. IMO

As far Shelby J, I use to have a BIG problem with her. But now, I have begin to love her, and respect her vocals for what they are. SHE'S A WONDERFUL VOCALIST....Sometimes she seems to be overpowering, (I can't help but die laugh and enjoy "Put your hands UP!!!") but for the most part she is playing the part Prince is paying her too. Haha.

When was the last time you told your boss: "I don't want to do it this way, etc" I am not saying she can't suggest anything to Prince. BUT; he is paying her to do what she does. If he doesn't like something, I am sure he'll make that clear to her. He likes what she does, even if we don't. We are allowed to disagree and he is too.

I never really say this; BUT sometimes..It seems as if people look at EVERYTHING Prince does, and find something he could have added or taken away. That's true for everyone, but it's no secret we are spoiled, and our expectations are yet as HIGH as Prince wishes he was without the heels. Haha

YES, we are entitled to our feelings, and quite honestly..YOU should feel how you feel (For whatever reason, their just feelings..lol), just as long as you put into context, the delivery of his desires. He is just giving us a peak at what to expect from the tour.

This is not a STUDIO MP3. Quite honestly for what it is; it's funky!

Personally, it doesn't have the same effect and replay on me as "The Dance Electric". BUT it sure is something I could use to keep me pumped out. He seems to be polishing and mixing up different songs from the Vault with a new appeal.

Personally, I would like some new material, or older material that we know of, that he has not done in a while. Which is essentially what he is doing a bit now; but I wouldn't mind a bit more of his hidden gems.

THEN AGAIN..I personally feel many of us, are SO used to getting Prince and his music. We have become quite spoiled to what we have gotten. (Think about all he has released, and yet we still want MORE)

Even if we enjoyed something from way back in the 80's, we still hold on to that in comparison to what we get now , thinking it should be just as awesome as what we originally got. That's the problem I think. Just like the problem is for some; that Prince lost his definition of what's funky, and not being able to being told NO. Essentially, we are free to say whatever..I just think context is important. AND considering this is a rehearsal, I think it's not that bad of a let down.

When he performs it, it will be awesome!!!

Interesting . When I go to concerts I don't always know every song but I do know how to move to the groove and that's part of the concert-going experience for me.

Are you saying that people go to concerts to only hear specific songs they know?

callimnate said:

I dont get why people would suggest that he play this during his Australian shows!?

Sure it would be nice for a hardcore fan, but I reckon there would be 100 people in total that would know Ice Cream Castles, let alone Mutiny.

TrevorAyer said:

i think its prince trying to legitamize his women that makes it hard to swallow .. like if carmen electras album sucks .. no body cares .. no body expected much .. but why is it that vanity singing about a vibrator sounds more pure, sincere and authentic than anything that comes out of shelbys mouth .. if prince had made a bria record full of slut jams people would have been delightfully impressed .. but all this oh andy allo is legitamate oh shelby is a bald bad ass sunday choir singer, and bria is a soul singer .. ug puke .. just write a song called my wet purple panties and hit start on your drum machine .. we need some truth up in this princeosphere .. lets just judge these women by their looks .. mayte was better looking than prince whole gold era of musical output .. shes a winner in my book, never bothered with her record .. andy looks sweaty and gross in all her pics .. shelby is just not rockin the bald look .. and neither have rose above tony m. status musically .. so prince please stop trying to legitimize your crappy back up band .. go back to playing with punks and musicians daughters .. that was the soup that made you ligitimate .. enough with all your hangers on

Off course not.

But if I'm not a hardcore fan, and I pay for a $200 cheap seat, just to see/hear P's "band" perfoming a 10-20minute jam of a tune that sounds like a song I might've heard once. I wouldnt be too happy.

ScissorsRockPaper said:

Interesting . When I go to concerts I don't always know every song but I do know how to move to the groove and that's part of the concert-going experience for me.

Are you saying that people go to concerts to only hear specific songs they know?

callimnate said:

I dont get why people would suggest that he play this during his Australian shows!?

Sure it would be nice for a hardcore fan, but I reckon there would be 100 people in total that would know Ice Cream Castles, let alone Mutiny.

this is a warmup...a rehearsal. thats it. this is prince brushing his teeth. its awesome, and he aint even dressed yet

L4OATheOriginal said:

It sounds like Prince is really jealous or bothered by The Family and The Time moving on without him. He just keeps playing their stuff(especially the Time). I have to admit though I do like their music better than Prince solo so its all good with me. Just funny how Prince seems to hold grudges in his JW days

NeonCraxx said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

which is what u lack everytime ur fingers touch a keyboard no matter what it is ur doing

it's okay junior, i'm here 2 educate u in the history class of prince since u weren't born at the time 2 realize what was going on. u can't read everything on wikipedia and thinks that's just the lesson now can u?

but 2 show i have no hard feelings i'm gonna help u:

if u can find these two books alone : the vault and D.M.S.R. by per neilsen

read them and learn something

I already have gathered my Prince related knowledge from books (the good and in-depth ones too) and from common sensible fans unlike you without the help of wikipedia. It just goes to show that your bullshit assumptions get you nowhere and that you need to get off your "high standard" and condescending persona of a history teacher, one that lacks common sense AND proper grammar. The super intendant was stoned off his ass when he hired you. Is this the third thread you derailed? Knock it of

NeonCraxx said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

which is what u lack everytime ur fingers touch a keyboard no matter what it is ur doing

it's okay junior, i'm here 2 educate u in the history class of prince since u weren't born at the time 2 realize what was going on. u can't read everything on wikipedia and thinks that's just the lesson now can u?

but 2 show i have no hard feelings i'm gonna help u:

if u can find these two books alone : the vault and D.M.S.R. by per neilsen

read them and learn something

I already have gathered my Prince related knowledge from books (the good and in-depth ones too) and from common sensible fans unlike you without the help of wikipedia. It just goes to show that your bullshit assumptions get you nowhere and that you need to get off your "high standard" and condescending persona of a history teacher, one that lacks common sense AND proper grammar. The super intendant was stoned off his ass when he hired you. Is this the third thread you derailed? Knock it off.

roflmao ..boy u get dumber and dumber don't u? assume i'm derailing when u flat out asked me a question in the first place lol ..where is that common sense u have no knowledge in again?

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

NeonCraxx said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

dandeeland said:

daPrettyman said:

nursev said:

I'm sorry Prettyman and Dig I'm not trying to be mean, but I have wanted to speak on Shelby for a while now. The last time I saw Prince I paid $300 for two seats and it was just Prince so I was happy. If he ever comes this way and I spend that kinda cheddar to have this woman all over the damn stage Imma be a mad bitch If I pay-I wanna see Prince and maybe an opening act-not try outs for Star Wars.

I totally feel ya.

I second that. I could use a little less of her hollering yoo.

dandeeland said:

It sounds like Prince is really jealous or bothered by The Family and The Time moving on without him. He just keeps playing their stuff(especially the Time). I have to admit though I do like their music better than Prince solo so its all good with me. Just funny how Prince seems to hold grudges in his JW days

What the fuck are you talking about? Those are songs Prince wrote and people from The Family and Terry Lewis from The Time ENJOYED what they heard!

So again, what the fuck are you talking about?

L4OATheOriginal said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

wonder505 said:

Maybe the shows have changed up drastically since I saw the three Welcome to America shows in NY and NJ but Shelby did NOT sing lead on 10 songs and was NOT center stage. Most of the time my eyes were on Prince the whole time. This is an over-exaggerating.

[Edited 4/23/12 13:53pm]

I never said that happend. I said if it did happen, you would be very very happy. Tony M showing up would probably give you the biggest thrill of your life.

You talk about Prince caring for these people, but Prince cares about someone for a few minutes, and then spits on them. He has people who can't play worth a damn around him sometimes, but let them get to center stage.

Some people will praise Prince no matter what he does. You are one of them, it seems.

What makes some people feel that there is any evil intent on Prince's part with this situation? Maybe its a sign of good things to come. I do like to funkiness of this song.

mzsadii said:

What makes some people feel that there is any evil intent on Prince's part with this situation? Maybe its a sign of good things to come.

mzsadii said:

What makes some people feel that there is any evil intent on Prince's part with this situation?

Because Prince fans are the most whiny, neurotic, entitled fanbase in pop music.

Paris9748430 said:

mzsadii said:

What makes some people feel that there is any evil intent on Prince's part with this situation?

Because Prince fans are the most whiny, neurotic, entitled fanbase in pop music.

Paris9748430 said:

XxAxX said:

now THIS is good news! prince and larry G working on some new jams!!!!! new album please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm almost scared 2 ask, but will anyway

please don't , it's just a question

Does Andy Allo remind, you all, just a little of Boni Boyer?

Love her Guitar playing and sometime Andy Allo does remind me of her

I'm not talking about Boni Boyer experience, caliber or quality, just the sound of the guitare

Anyway I don't even know about the experience, caliber or quality of Boni and Andy so I will stand in my safe box

I could beg 4 ever 4 some more music so...

Please, pretty, pretty please !!!

Ya know... the jam is alright, same as the Dance Electric jam. But the more I think about it the more it's bugging me that he played all the same stuff he's been playing for nearly a decade at all the recent US shows and then breaks out some jams that folks have been asking for forever when he's going to Australia.

Hey Prince. Remember 2004? That tour was in America. That was our money. Remember that Vegas residency? Yeah, our cash. You remember that last album? You know, the one you didn't even release in America? What's the deal, dude?

Controversy said:

http://www.drfunkenberry....isten-now/

Thank you 4 sharing Contreversy : )

excuse me 4 my ignorance but who is Deliah?

Can someone tell me please

Old School jammin' is nice, but: the more Prince rehearses his 30 year old songs the less he will grow as an artist. Another big problem of the last decade!

[Edited 4/23/12 23:01pm]

Pole said:

XxAxX said:

now THIS is good news! prince and larry G working on some new jams!!!!! new album please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm almost scared 2 ask, but will anyway

please don't , it's just a question

Does Andy Allo remind, you all, just a little of Boni Boyer?

Love her Guitar playing and sometime Andy Allo does remind me of her

I'm not talking about Boni Boyer experience, caliber or quality, just the sound of the guitare

Anyway I don't even know about the experience, caliber or quality of Boni and Andy so I will stand in my safe box

I could beg 4 ever 4 some more music so...

Please, pretty, pretty please !!!

Oups! 4get about this (Guitar playing of Boni Boyer) I don't know why, but I thought that Bony did play some guitare at one point, is it possible or did I dream about this lol ok! let me put my foot in my mouth

Pole said:

Pole said:

Does Andy Allo remind, you all, just a little of Boni Boyer?

I'm only kidding I just couldn't help it

Genesia said:

NeonCraxx said:

I'm not sure what Prince's message to the other bands is, but I'm guess "I can do these songs better than you". Probably more as a little joke than anything serious.

Annoyingly the original Ice Cream Castles had the chant "Let's do something. Let's do something soon", but that seems to be missing here ! Shame.

BobGeorge909 said:

Pole said:

 

Pole said:

 

XxAxX said:

now THIS is good news! prince and larry G working on some new jams!!!!! new album please!!!!!

 

 

 

I'm almost scared 2 ask, but will anyway

please don't , it's just a question

Does Andy Allo remind, you all, just a little of Boni Boyer?

Love her Guitar playing and sometime Andy Allo does remind me of her

I'm not talking about Boni Boyer experience, caliber or quality, just the sound of the guitare

 

Anyway I don't even know about the experience, caliber or quality of Boni and Andy so I will stand in my safe box

 

I could beg 4 ever 4 some more music so...

Please, pretty, pretty please !!!

 

 

Oups! 4get about this (Guitar playing of Boni Boyer) I don't know why, but I thought that Bony did play some guitare at one point, is it possible or did I dream about this lol ok! let me put my foot in my mouth

Yeah...she kinda stuck to tickling the keys. She might have played in her off time. Sol Goode

serpan99 said:

Gotta love it...how cool that Prince is sharing these jams with us thru DrFunkenberry!

Yeah, considering how difficult it is for a major recording artist to create their own, functioning web site.

alexnvrmnd777 said:

funkomatic said:

Old School jammin' is nice, but: the more Prince rehearses his 30 year old songs the less he will grow as an artist. Another big problem of the last decade!

[Edited 4/23/12 23:01pm]

NeonCraxx said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:

There you go again, Corkey; puttin' yourself in grownups' conversation. Stay at the kids table like a good little boy.

I signed up for the org to chat on the message boards. Nowhere in the rules did it's limited to any age group. You're a deluded "man" that acts like a child everyday you log on, so maybe you should log off and throw a ball around. Maybe you'll come to your senses and stop being a dick to other people.

stay on topic please

NeonCraxx said:

Take your own advice.

Corkey, you're about to get yet ANOTHER topic closed down, so STFU and take your lame, childish comebacks to orgnote!!!

Keep this shit on topic!!

Pole said:

Controversy said:

http://www.drfunkenberry....isten-now/

Thank you 4 sharing Contreversy : )

excuse me 4 my ignorance but who is Deliah?

Can someone tell me please

I'm assuming he means Delilah - http://www.delilahofficial.co.uk/_2012/

funkomatic said:

Old School jammin' is nice, but: the more Prince rehearses his 30 year old songs the less he will grow as an artist. Another big problem of the last decade!

So if he would free an unreleased - new - jam instead, of the same funkiness, he would do even better.

Still: thanks for the mp3.

Or maybe just maybe....

Prince is playing this song as a precursor to the new Prince CD that features members from the Family that Jam and Lewis will be producing.

Once the CD is released they all plan on a world tour with The Time & The Family taking turns opening up for Prince.

The concert will end with an all out Jam with all the members of each band playing together on the new funk workout classic from the new CD....

It was only a dream.

[Edited 4/24/12 7:04am]

NeonCraxx said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:

There you go again, Corkey; puttin' yourself in grownups' conversation. Stay at the kids table like a good little boy.

I signed up for the org to chat on the message boards. Nowhere in the rules does it limit to any age group. You're a deluded "man" that acts like a child everyday you log on, so maybe you should log off and throw a ball around. Maybe you'll come to your senses and stop being a dick to other people. [Edited 4/24/12 6:25am]

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Genesia said:

So you've seen Shelby with Prince "every fuckin' night," have you? I doubt that.

I've actually seen Shelby with Prince several times and she's been just fine. The times that he has her (or the girls) sing an actual song are usually the times he does a wardrobe change. Frankly, it's nice that the band keeps going - better that than leaving the stage empty for as long as it takes him to change and/or grab a drink.

Bonnie's caterwauling totally ruined several Small Club songs. I don't mean to speak ill of the dead, but I was never a fn.

I've heard tons of boots, on top of people's reports from many, many shows that Shelby does that every fuckin' night. I have yet to hear such a complaint about Bonnie except for this ONE show. Plain and simple. You may like to put your hands up all the time, for all I know, so maybe that's why you think it's fine, but it really ain't.

In other words - no, you haven't seen her.

Source considered.

Ifsixwuz9 said:

I think both the rehersal jams posted so far (Dance Electric last week and Mutiny/Ice Cream... this week) were enjoyable. Especially since for me none of these three songs were ever huge favorites of mine and they were free.

The hullabaloo over it not sounding exactly like it did in 1986 is absurd. Sorry but being a long time fan I know for a fact Prince has re-worked most all of his songs over the years for concert performances, so nothing new here. It's just nice not to hear "Raspberry Baret/Kiss" for the gazillionith time.

As for Shelby. Well at least she's not singing off key for entire songs like some other mega hyped former band members.

Word. Not to disrespect the dead, but Boni Boyer often sounded like a Mavis Staples reject with a dog's squeaky toy caught in her throat. And, while Rosie was often great (I LOVE 'Closer than Close'), she was somewhat one-dimensional.

Shelby is a super talent. Her voice is fierce, and her stage energy is uplifting.

Cerebus said:

Ya know... the jam is alright, same as the Dance Electric jam. But the more I think about it the more it's bugging me that he played all the same stuff he's been playing for nearly a decade at all the recent US shows and then breaks out some jams that folks have been asking for forever when he's going to Australia.

Hey Prince. Remember 2004? That tour was in America. That was our money. Remember that Vegas residency? Yeah, our cash. You remember that last album? You know, the one you didn't even release in America? What's the deal, dude?

Hey, Prince was all over America on Welcome 2 America. He played New York, New Jersey, North & South Carolina, California, and Washington.

As far as all these songs played on this tour? Many of the arrangements were kept as simple as possible, and many times (Like Mountains for example) the girls did most of the singing. On some (A Million Days for example) Prince is mainly mumbling the lyrics. Dance Electric sounded ok but was shocked at how juvenile that stupid whistle sounded, and it was a bit heavy on the girls. Mutiny was almost as good, but still sounded a little flat, and that annoying Siren just showed me Prince has to screw up a good thing these days.

jackmitz said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:

I think both the rehersal jams posted so far (Dance Electric last week and Mutiny/Ice Cream... this week) were enjoyable. Especially since for me none of these three songs were ever huge favorites of mine and they were free.

The hullabaloo over it not sounding exactly like it did in 1986 is absurd. Sorry but being a long time fan I know for a fact Prince has re-worked most all of his songs over the years for concert performances, so nothing new here. It's just nice not to hear "Raspberry Baret/Kiss" for the gazillionith time.

As for Shelby. Well at least she's not singing off key for entire songs like some other mega hyped former band members.

Word. Not to disrespect the dead, but Boni Boyer often sounded like a Mavis Staples reject with a dog's squeaky toy caught in her throat. And, while Rosie was often great (I LOVE 'Closer than Close'), she was somewhat one-dimensional.

Shelby is a super talent. Her voice is fierce, and her stage energy is uplifting.

Exactly! Prince feeds off of her energy. She hypes him up. She is the second leader of his band. Like Lil Wendy use 2 b & the defunct Sheila E.....

stillwaiting said:

Cerebus said:

Ya know... the jam is alright, same as the Dance Electric jam. But the more I think about it the more it's bugging me that he played all the same stuff he's been playing for nearly a decade at all the recent US shows and then breaks out some jams that folks have been asking for forever when he's going to Australia.

Hey Prince. Remember 2004? That tour was in America. That was our money. Remember that Vegas residency? Yeah, our cash. You remember that last album? You know, the one you didn't even release in America? What's the deal, dude?

Hey, Prince was all over America on Welcome 2 America. He played New York, New Jersey, North & South Carolina, California, and Washington.

As far as all these songs played on this tour? Many of the arrangements were kept as simple as possible, and many times (Like Mountains for example) the girls did most of the singing. On some (A Million Days for example) Prince is mainly mumbling the lyrics. Dance Electric sounded ok but was shocked at how juvenile that stupid whistle sounded, and it was a bit heavy on the girls. Mutiny was almost as good, but still sounded a little flat, and that annoying Siren just showed me Prince has to screw up a good thing these days.

If you think that constitutes "all over America," you need a geography lesson.

Genesia said:

stillwaiting said:

Hey, Prince was all over America on Welcome 2 America. He played New York, New Jersey, North & South Carolina, California, and Washington.

As far as all these songs played on this tour? Many of the arrangements were kept as simple as possible, and many times (Like Mountains for example) the girls did most of the singing. On some (A Million Days for example) Prince is mainly mumbling the lyrics. Dance Electric sounded ok but was shocked at how juvenile that stupid whistle sounded, and it was a bit heavy on the girls. Mutiny was almost as good, but still sounded a little flat, and that annoying Siren just showed me Prince has to screw up a good thing these days.

If you think that constitutes "all over America," you need a geography lesson.

And in my latest introductions: Pot Meet Kettle....and Seriousness meet sarcasm. Glad all four of you now know each other.

stillwaiting said:

Cerebus said:

Ya know... the jam is alright, same as the Dance Electric jam. But the more I think about it the more it's bugging me that he played all the same stuff he's been playing for nearly a decade at all the recent US shows and then breaks out some jams that folks have been asking for forever when he's going to Australia.

Hey Prince. Remember 2004? That tour was in America. That was our money. Remember that Vegas residency? Yeah, our cash. You remember that last album? You know, the one you didn't even release in America? What's the deal, dude?

Hey, Prince was all over America on Welcome 2 America. He played New York, New Jersey, North & South Carolina, California, and Washington.

As far as all these songs played on this tour? Many of the arrangements were kept as simple as possible, and many times (Like Mountains for example) the girls did most of the singing. On some (A Million Days for example) Prince is mainly mumbling the lyrics. Dance Electric sounded ok but was shocked at how juvenile that stupid whistle sounded, and it was a bit heavy on the girls. Mutiny was almost as good, but still sounded a little flat, and that annoying Siren just showed me Prince has to screw up a good thing these days.

"Lay off that"-Prince to Billy/Purple Rain

I'll be damed if I let yall start doggin the siren in THIS thread..you all already got a ton of bs fighting going on here as usual (guess the precogs were right alex!) but we wont be dragging the wonderful siren into yalls shit.

BobGeorge909 said:

Pole said:

Oups! 4get about this (Guitar playing of Boni Boyer) I don't know why, but I thought that Bony did play some guitare at one point, is it possible or did I dream about this lol ok! let me put my foot in my mouth

Yeah...she kinda stuck to tickling the keys. She might have played in her off time. Sol Goode

Thank you BobGeorge909

I heard Bony Guitare playing once (I think it was her...)

If only I could find back this mp3 it would help a bit

Paris9748430 said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Sweet Jebus, this is one gigantic pile of dung. Oh, those painful "Mutiny" chants by those untalented backup singers.

Go compare this to the version on the recently freed boot of one of Prince's 1986 New York concerts.

Last time I checked, the calender said it was 2012, not 1986.

Hilarious. You do not what year those songs were released, right?

Yeah, it's 2012. And here's Prince rehearsing a 25+ year old mash-up, and ending up with something so rubbish it's embarrassing.

I point to the 1986 performance because it's awesome, not because I want Prince to reproduce that performance note-by-note.

Not to mention that this does sound like an insult towards the two bands he sent it too. All it lacks is a "Punk of the month" chant.

Don't like it, fine.

Yet you seem to have some issues with me not liking it and voicing my opinion.

"But it's free" -- so, does that mean we're required to like it?

"It's a rehearsal" -- oh please, this will sound exactly like this live, because this is as good as his band gets. Listen to boots from the past 15 years: jams instead of songs. Listen to boots of the past couple of years: same jams, but now enhanced by shouty back-up singers.

rdhull said:

stillwaiting said:

Hey, Prince was all over America on Welcome 2 America. He played New York, New Jersey, North & South Carolina, California, and Washington.

As far as all these songs played on this tour? Many of the arrangements were kept as simple as possible, and many times (Like Mountains for example) the girls did most of the singing. On some (A Million Days for example) Prince is mainly mumbling the lyrics. Dance Electric sounded ok but was shocked at how juvenile that stupid whistle sounded, and it was a bit heavy on the girls. Mutiny was almost as good, but still sounded a little flat, and that annoying Siren just showed me Prince has to screw up a good thing these days.

"Lay off that"-Prince to Billy/Purple Rain

I'll be damed if I let yall start doggin the siren in THIS thread..you all already got a ton of bs fighting going on here as usual (guess the precogs were right alex!) but we wont be dragging the wonderful siren into yalls shit.

chewymusic said:

Pole said:

Does Andy Allo remind, you all, just a little of Boni Boyer?

what about this one or this one

I'm

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Larry is Prince's all time musical idol. He will always b in the mix whether U people like it or not. Don't like it. Don't go. Its as simple as that...

crack up when Prince deliberately tries 2 erk U & bring Larry on stage 4 the hundred time & give Shelby the mic again & again... Because he knows what Ur saying about them. But he doesn't care...

i kind of 'get' why prince would do this, why he would pick this battle to fight.

he wants us to know his playlist is HIS. and his alone.

further, he wants us to know his bond with larry is beyond any feelings he'll ever have for any of his fans. which is okay for him to feel that way

but, to be real, playing the same 'cover' songs for ten long, full years at your concerts is just not a good business move. and when people speak out and it's noticeable and when it becomes some weird form of punishment for the fans.

but most important, playing those two songs every. single. time. over. and. over. again. and. again. speaks to a lack of creativity that prince and LG have in concert, their chemistry when together does not seem to be something that pushes the boundaries of anything at all. toogether, they are tried and true, safe in the shelter of 'hey we can do this in our sleep'.

just my 2c

Prince will do anything 4 Larry G & vice versa. They r bonded 4 life............If D'angelo could have Prince on stage with him. He would do the same thing play his music everynight..

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Prince will do anything 4 Larry G & vice versa. They r bonded 4 life............If D'angelo could have Prince on stage with him. He would do the same thing play his music everynight..

Stop speaking for them as if you know them or even met them. You sound like a dumbass.

I'm sorry,

if you tell me this new "performance" has anything on this masterpiece

http://www.youtube.com/wa...C1_7fzVChk

I'd say your smoking something. Now THAT is a band.

Jazz said:

I'm sorry,

if you tell me this new "performance" has anything on this masterpiece

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC1_7fzVChk

I'd say your smoking something. Now THAT is a band.

High five!

BartVanHemelen said:

NeonCraxx said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Yet you seem to have some issues with me not liking it and voicing my opinion.

"But it's free" -- so, does that mean we're required to like it?

"It's a rehearsal" -- oh please, this will sound exactly like this live, because this is as good as his band gets. Listen to boots from the past 15 years: jams instead of songs. Listen to boots of the past couple of years: same jams, but now enhanced by shouty back-up singers.

thebanishedone said:

BobGeorge909 said:

Yeah...she kinda stuck to tickling the keys. She might have played in her off time. Sol Goode

you said you love Andy's guitar playing,so i gotta ask,what playing? She don't have a clue about guitar

I'm not saying that I love Andy guitar playing, I couldn't hear her playing guitar at the Montreal show (sorry about that)... ..I don't know if it's because she doesn't play loud enough or was there too many instruments together or any other reasons? like I'm deaf

And I'm not saying I dont like Andy either... I'm just waiting 4 more

peace

L4OATheOriginal said:

HonestMan13 said:

My point is you have orgers claiming they know what it takes to make a better funk album than what Prince is currently doing. They're just keeping these epiphanies to themselves or has an orger made a better funk album than Prince already?

there are orgers on here who are musicians themselves and have done tracks and albums ya know

I'm aware of that. Has any of them been heralded as the second coming of the funk? Where's all the org praise and accolades for giving us what we've been denied by Prince?

Over the years I've listened to various artists who have captured what Prince has on a track or two but never for a consistent album. I've come to believe that the only person who know what needs to be in a Prince song is Prince. Some artists just get lucky and catch that Princely funk vibe on a rare track but then they lose it on the next one. It's not as simple as some orgers make it sound. If it was we'd be drowning in epic funk albums from all over.

Chiquetet said:

Pole said:

Thank you 4 sharing Contreversy : )

excuse me 4 my ignorance but who is Deliah?

Can someone tell me please

I'm assuming he means Delilah - http://www.delilahofficial.co.uk/_2012/

Thank you!

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Prince will do anything 4 Larry G & vice versa. They r bonded 4 life............If D'angelo could have Prince on stage with him. He would do the same thing play his music everynight..

well, i can understand that. larry graham is MAJOR funky. i love his stuff. just, not those two songs anymore.....

rdhull said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Prince will do anything 4 Larry G & vice versa. They r bonded 4 life............If D'angelo could have Prince on stage with him. He would do the same thing play his music everynight..

Stop speaking for them as if you know them or even met them. You sound like a dumbass.

nothing wrong with the musicianship, it's a funky tune. i like that prince is in a sharing/bitchy mood, whatevs.. but i'd love to hear something more original or creative from him. not necessarily anything brand new, but redition of something old, eg i would die 4 u acoustic guitar/slowed down mountains or love bizarre on thhe piano/anything sllooooowwed right down on piano would be good. i want something otherworldly & extraspectacular.

i'm not sure these jams are promoting the new tour

Its free and its funky. I'm grateful for Prince sharing these rehearsals with Dr funkenberry. The more I listen to it more funkier it gets!

I've seen Shelby perform well over 25+ times, I think shes great really gets the place going and has a fab voice.

Genesia said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Genesia said: I've heard tons of boots, on top of people's reports from many, many shows that Shelby does that every fuckin' night. I have yet to hear such a complaint about Bonnie except for this ONE show. Plain and simple. You may like to put your hands up all the time, for all I know, so maybe that's why you think it's fine, but it really ain't.

In other words - no, you haven't seen her.

Source considered.

And yes, I've seen the videos, so there you go.

And would it really matter if I saw her (live or a recording) or heard her from audio?? The point is I HEARD her, and I know it was her. I don't even see what your point was with that.

rdhull said:

stillwaiting said:

Hey, Prince was all over America on Welcome 2 America. He played New York, New Jersey, North & South Carolina, California, and Washington.

As far as all these songs played on this tour? Many of the arrangements were kept as simple as possible, and many times (Like Mountains for example) the girls did most of the singing. On some (A Million Days for example) Prince is mainly mumbling the lyrics. Dance Electric sounded ok but was shocked at how juvenile that stupid whistle sounded, and it was a bit heavy on the girls. Mutiny was almost as good, but still sounded a little flat, and that annoying Siren just showed me Prince has to screw up a good thing these days.

"Lay off that"-Prince to Billy/Purple Rain

I'll be damed if I let yall start doggin the siren in THIS thread..you all already got a ton of bs fighting going on here as usual (guess the precogs were right alex!) but we wont be dragging the wonderful siren into yalls shit.

Well, not really. Because this "fighting" isn't due to profane name calling, like what was being snipped from that one person's post.

alexnvrmnd777 said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Paris9748430 said:

Hilarious. You do not what year those songs were released, right?

Yeah, it's 2012. And here's Prince rehearsing a 25+ year old mash-up, and ending up with something so rubbish it's embarrassing.

I point to the 1986 performance because it's awesome, not because I want Prince to reproduce that performance note-by-note.

Not to mention that this does sound like an insult towards the two bands he sent it too. All it lacks is a "Punk of the month" chant.

Don't like it, fine.

Yet you seem to have some issues with me not liking it and voicing my opinion.

"But it's free" -- so, does that mean we're required to like it?

"It's a rehearsal" -- oh please, this will sound exactly like this live, because this is as good as his band gets. Listen to boots from the past 15 years: jams instead of songs. Listen to boots of the past couple of years: same jams, but now enhanced by shouty back-up singers.