AW Come on now, give em' a break peeps, he just lost his brother for crying out loud I locked my cousin in the closet I don't have all my marbles for that?? lol but personally from a psychological approach most of the population has a mental disorder, learned this in my class.

IamFunkay7 said:

AW Come on now, give em' a break peeps, he just lost his brother for crying out loud I locked my cousin in the closet I don't have all my marbles for that?? lol but personally from a psychological approach most of the population has a mental disorder, learned this in my class.

Like I said, I'm not saying he's bad if he does, you're right- most people do! And certainly most genius have mental health issues to some degree- I'm not trying to dog him, was just wondering..

vandeluca said:

Here we go an epilepsy expert...

mimi02 said:

Prince suffered from epilepsy as a child, so it is possible that illness may have led to a mental illness. See "Important Points to Remember" at the bottom of article

http://www2.massgeneral.o...health.htm

So, it's possible.

Please refer to the website listed below.

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/h...ndex.shtml

People tend to forget about personality disorders when commenting on mental health. Personality Disorders are the least likely to be addressed and/or treated.

No!

Here we go...either somebody that can't read or simply can't handle anything related to Prince that isn't praising him to the highest degree!

All Mimi02 did...was provide informative links that add insight into something that IS an aspect of Prince's life...but is rarely ever addressed...because of reactions like yours.

PenelopePaige said:

IamFunkay7 said:

AW Come on now, give em' a break peeps, he just lost his brother for crying out loud I locked my cousin in the closet I don't have all my marbles for that?? lol but personally from a psychological approach most of the population has a mental disorder, learned this in my class.

Like I said, I'm not saying he's bad if he does, you're right- most people do! And certainly most genius have mental health issues to some degree- I'm not trying to dog him, was just wondering..

yeah, well there is nothing wrong with a little curiosity.. Some people are dogging him on this thread and its like come on peeps give em' a break. I don't know if he does, I don't care if he does it wouldn't matter. Well not throwing spears at you, hope you found your answer is this thread, that carries a logical explanation. But I want you to know one thing about the media, it manipulates stories so that you can believe what they say, how do I know this... haha.., with that in mind, we must realize we don't really know any famous person like that enough to know that much about them, unless it comes from their own mouth. But hey, you can gather from those events that you think were true and go from there

Please because of reactions like mine? I am not one of the posters here who think any celebrity is God....they are people with a different lifestyle that is not undertandable to us...since we are not in their shoes. I don't speculate about them because no one really knows anything except them and their immediate circles...I for sure don't think any of them walk on water.

No kdding it is part of his life..he said so himself. He also said he was cured from it remember?... It is not my fault it is not addressed....And I don't have a knee jerk reaction to it at all..I have a family member with epilepsy so I know alot about it..more than I wish to. But to say he is mental because he has it.??.Is..typical of someone finding a link like was posted so assumptions and most likely wrong conclusions are made...

Glad we have specialists in the house.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

vandeluca said:

Here we go an epilepsy expert...

No!

Here we go...either somebody that can't read or simply can't handle anything related to Prince that isn't praising him to the highest degree!

All Mimi02 did...was provide informative links that add insight into something that IS an aspect of Prince's life...but is rarely ever addressed...because of reactions like yours.

vitriol said:

Do you mean mental issues... like the ones that made you start this thread, for example?

I lost it.

vandeluca said:

Please because of reactions like mine? I am not one of the posters here who think any celebrity is God....they are people with a different lifestyle that is not undertandable to us...since we are not in their shoes. I don't speculate about them because no one really knows anything except them and their immediate circles...I for sure don't think any of them walk on water.

No kdding it is part of his life..he said so himself. He also said he was cured from it remember?... It is not my fault it is not addressed....And I don't have a knee jerk reaction to it at all..I have a family member with epilepsy so I know alot about it..more than I wish to. But to say he is mental because he has it.??.Is..typical of someone finding a link like was posted so assumptions and most likely wrong conclusions are made...

Glad we have specialists in the house.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

No!

Here we go...either somebody that can't read or simply can't handle anything related to Prince that isn't praising him to the highest degree!

All Mimi02 did...was provide informative links that add insight into something that IS an aspect of Prince's life...but is rarely ever addressed...because of reactions like yours.

YES because of reactions just like YOURS!

If you have a family member with epilepsy...then YOU know for a FACT... that there is NO KNOWN CURE for epilepsy...right? So regardless to what Prince has said...you KNOW he COULDN'T have possibly been cured...right?

Yet, here YOU are...dissing and dismissing informative information that was posted by someone else, that has nothing to do with Prince himself BUT does offer insight into the affliction.

Who needs specialists when we've got Prince-alists!

Of course there is no known cure ....if you are lucky and it can be controlled or it can disappear (hence you are 'cured right?) And just because you HAD it does not mean you HAVE it your whole life and it is not EVERY PERSON that has mental issues either because of it. Sure it is an informative post to some degree but not enough to give a conclusive answer... but people like you 'run with it'. The article offers complete simplistic insight. He may or may not have something wrong with him..who cares anyway..

I will let you have the last word...you seem to like to hear yourself talk with your almost 9000 posts..... everyone else is always wrong and now, a Prince-alist. You've been watching Sheen too long...

YES because of reactions just like YOURS!

If you have a family member with epilepsy...then YOU know for a FACT... that there is NO KNOWN CURE for epilepsy...right? So regardless to what Prince has said...you KNOW he COULDN'T have possibly been cured...right?

Yet, here YOU are...dissing and dismissing informative information that was posted by someone else, that has nothing to do with Prince himself BUT does offer insight into the affliction.

Who needs specialists when we've got Prince-alists!

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[Edited 3/6/11 13:13pm]

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Very interesting article that should shed some light on this...topic, for those who take the time to read and absorb.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/scott-barry-kaufman/creative-people_b_829563.html

After the Show: The Many Faces of the Performer

Recounting his recording sessions with the youngMichael Jackson, famed record producer Quincy Jonesremembers that "Michael was so shy, he'd sit down and sing behind the couch with his back to me while I sat with my hands over my eyes -- and the lights off." What a contrast from his onstage extroverted, charismatic and bold performance!

In the CNN.com article "The confusing legacy of Michael Jackson," Todd Leopold discusses the perplexing combination of seemingly contradictory traits displayed by Michael Jackson. In explaining his many sides, Jackson biographer J. Randy Taraborelli essentially throws his hands up in the air in exasperation as he tries to make sense of the apparent contradictions:

I think that when you're talking about Michael Jackson and you try to analyze him, it's like analyzing electricity, you know? It exists, but you don't have a clue as to how it works.

Creativity researchers aren't so confused. They have long-ago accepted the fact that creative people are complex. Almost by definition, creativity is complex. Creative thinking is influenced by many traits, behaviors, and so...ne person. It would be surprising if all of these factors didn't sometimes, or even most of the time, appear to contradict one another.

As creativity researcher Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi notes in his 1996 article for Psychology Today entitled "The Creative Personality," creative people "show tendencies of thought and action that in most people are segregated. They contain contradictory extremes; instead of being an "individual," each of them is a "multitude."

To me, some of the most fascinating contrasts are those found in creative performers -- those who are constantly on stage and in the public eye. Out of Csikszentmihaly's list of 10 complex personality traits of creative people, which were based on interviews with a wide variety of creative people, I think these three are the most relevant to creative performers:

Creative people have a great deal of physical energy, but they're also often quiet and at rest. They work long hours, with great concentration, while projecting an aura of freshness and enthusiasm...This does not mean that creative people are hyperactive, always "on." In fact, they rest often and sleep a lot. The important thing is that they control their energy; it's not ruled by the calendar, the dock, an external schedule. When necessary, they can focus it like a laser beam; when not, creative types immediately recharge their batteries. They consider the rhythm of activity followed by idleness or reflection very important for the success of their work.

Creative people tend to be both extroverted and introverted. We're usually one or the other, either preferring to be in the thick of crowds or sitting on the sidelines and observing the passing show. In fact, in psychological research, extroversion and introversion are considered the most stable personality traits that differentiate people from each other and that can be reliability measured. Creative individuals, on the other hand, seem to exhibit both traits simultaneously.

Creative people's openness and sensitivity often exposes them to suffering and pain, yet also to a great deal of enjoyment... Being alone at the forefront of a discipline also leaves you exposed and vulnerable.

These three seeming contradictions -- energy/rest, extroversion/introversion, and openness/sensitivity -- are not separate phenomenon but are intimately related to one another and along with other traits form the core of the creative performer's personality.

All three are also linked to what Elaine Aron refers to as a highly sensitive personality (HSP). HSP's make up 15-20 percent of the general population and tend to be more aware than others of subtleties, get more easily overwhelmed when things get too intense or there is too much sensory input, are easily affected by other's moods, and are deeply creative and moved by arts and music. Some of the most creative people have very high levels of sensitivity.

A recent study illustrates this point. Psychologist Jennifer O. Grimes went to three major summer metal rock tours, including one of the largest heavy metal/hard rock festivals in the world -- "Ozzfest." Talk about extroverted performers! Grimes interviewed 21 musicians associated with signed touring acts in an isolated room backstage for approximately 20-25 minutes.

Behind the curtain, how did these hard rock musicians describe themselves? Below are some of Jennifer's impressions (for a fuller summary, see here).

Introversion / Extroversion

• All participants showed interest in physical activities but also reported requiring "alone time."

• Most participants reported "overthinking everything" and being hypercritical, exhibiting critical attention to detail and a careful method of planning everything.

• Those familiar only with the subjects' stage persona believed the subjects to be friendly, bold and approachable. The acquaintances who were able to respond to Grimes' interview questionnaire reported that the subjects were not approachable or appeared to hold a condescending view of others until one became better acquainted with the individual. Those closer to the musicians thought they were warm, friendly, calm and pleasant.

• The introverts in her sample seemed adept at using introversion and extroversion in various facades to manipulate their appearances to the various circles of friends, acquaintances and others. As Grimes puts it, musicians were adept at "juggling multiple faces" (I really like this way of phrasing it!).

• Many of Grimes's participants felt as though they were often misunderstood or perceived in a negative light, sometimes due to shyness.

Openness / Sensitivity

• The musicians in Grimes's sample reported being in the zone onstage, and being able to "tune out" external stimuli unrelated to the task. At the same time, Grimes found a lot of the musicians reported a heightened sensitivity to their surroundings and their experience of sound, lighting, scents, etc.

• All of the musicians reported some degree of unusual perceptions, especially relating to high sensory sensitivity.

• All participants described music as a means of self-expression, relating to others, and finding fulfillment. Subjects reported that listening to or creating music allowed them to recharge when overstimulated.

• Musicians reported that any amount of inhibition hindered creative production. Apparently, this was a conscious decision: artists explained how they learned to work with the process so that they did not unintentionally inhibit their creativity by blocking their own flow.

• Many of Grimes's subjects showed an appreciation of fantasy; daydreaming was commonly reported.

• Grimes concludes that it is her hope that the stereotyping about introversion will cease to pervade introversion literature without unbiased support for those claims.

So that's heavy metal rockers. Are they the only performers who show these seeming contradictions? Perhaps other extroverted performers, such as stand-up comedians, show similar complexities.

Psychologists Gil Greengross and Geoffrey Miller compared the personality traits of 31 professional stand-up comedians and nine amateur comedians against the personality traits of 10 humor writers and 400 college students. They found that the comedians (both professional and amateur) scored on average thelowest in self-reported extroversion, even lower than comedy writers!

According to the researchers:

The public perceives comedians as ostentatious and flashy. Their persona on stage is often mistakenly seen interchangeably with their real personality, and the jokes they tell about their lives are considered by many to have a grain of truth in them. However, the results of this study suggest that the opposite is true. Perhaps comedians use their performance to disguise who they are in their daily life. Comedians may portray someone they want to be, or perhaps their act is a way to defy the constraints imposed on their everyday events and interactions with others.

The evidence is clear: for a large majority of performers, in some of the most extroverted forms of performance, there is a great ability to juggle multiple faces and a need for downtime and reflection. New psychological research is showing just how intertwined and prevalent Openness to Experience, flow, abnormal perceptual experiences, and extroversion/introversion contradictions really are in creative people, especially artists. Hopefully by combining methods, such as self-reported experiences, peer reports, and more objective tests, we can shed more light on the many complexities and seeming contradictions found in creative people of many different flavors, and by so doing counter common black-and-white stereotypes about people in general.

No, but he's an ass

vandeluca said:

Of course there is no known cure ....if you are lucky and it can be controlled or it can disappear (hence you are 'cured right?) And just because you HAD it does not mean you HAVE it your whole life and it is not EVERY PERSON that has mental issues either because of it. Sure it is an informative post to some degree but not enough to give a conclusive answer... but people like you 'run with it'. The article offers complete simplistic insight. He may or may not have something wrong with him..who cares anyway..

I will let you have the last word...you seem to like to hear yourself talk with your almost 9000 posts..... everyone else is always wrong and now, a Prince-alist. You've been watching Sheen too long...

YES because of reactions just like YOURS!

If you have a family member with epilepsy...then YOU know for a FACT... that there is NO KNOWN CURE for epilepsy...right? So regardless to what Prince has said...you KNOW he COULDN'T have possibly been cured...right?

Yet, here YOU are...dissing and dismissing informative information that was posted by someone else, that has nothing to do with Prince himself BUT does offer insight into the affliction.

Who needs specialists when we've got Prince-alists!

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[Edited 3/6/11 13:13pm]

"if you are lucky and it can be controlled or it can disappear (hence you are 'cured right?)"

Wrong! Mr. Earving "Magic" Johnson's AIDS has been controlled and his symptoms have disappeared but he STILL has the disease because there IS NO KNOWN CURE for it...right?

No one said Prince nor anyone else has mental illness because they have epilepsy. A question was asked and informative post was presented that offered some insight. Nothing more...nothing less.

People like me...haven't run with anything based on that! All I've said is..."it's people like YOU...that can't seem to handle anything related to Prince that isn't praising him to the highest degree." that make it difficult to have interesting conversations in this forum. I completely stand by that!

Since you're checking up on me though...I have nothing to hide. So for the record, I have way more than almost 9000 posts. I've been a fixture around here...in one form or another since 2002.

And I don't watch "Two and a Half Men" so I haven't watched Charlie Sheen since he was in "Being John Malkovich" in 1999 and I actually haven't seen the interviews that have people talking about him because I really don't give a damn but from what I've heard...somebody should have cared enough...long ago to discuss his bullshit...long before NOW!

.

[Edited 3/6/11 14:27pm]

Epilepsy is not AIDS...You can have it today and not tomorrow..or ever...Anyway, carry on...with your diatribe..

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

vandeluca said:

Of course there is no known cure ....if you are lucky and it can be controlled or it can disappear (hence you are 'cured right?) And just because you HAD it does not mean you HAVE it your whole life and it is not EVERY PERSON that has mental issues either because of it. Sure it is an informative post to some degree but not enough to give a conclusive answer... but people like you 'run with it'. The article offers complete simplistic insight. He may or may not have something wrong with him..who cares anyway..

I will let you have the last word...you seem to like to hear yourself talk with your almost 9000 posts..... everyone else is always wrong and now, a Prince-alist. You've been watching Sheen too long...

[Edited 3/6/11 13:10pm]

[Edited 3/6/11 13:13pm]

"if you are lucky and it can be controlled or it can disappear (hence you are 'cured right?)"

Wrong! Mr. Earving "Magic" Johnson's AIDS has been controlled and his symptoms have disappeared but he STILL has the disease because there IS NO KNOWN CURE for it...right?

No one said Prince nor anyone else has mental illness because they have epilepsy. A question was asked and informative post was presented that offered some insight. Nothing more...nothing less.

People like me...haven't run with anything based on that! All I've said is..."it's people like YOU...that can't seem to handle anything related to Prince that isn't praising him to the highest degree." that make it difficult to have interesting conversations in this forum. I completely stand by that!

Since you're checking up on me though...I have nothing to hide. So for the record, I have way more than almost 9000 posts. I've been a fixture around here...in one form or another since 2002.

And I don't watch "Two and a Half Men" so I haven't watched Charlie Sheen since he was in "Being John Malkovich" in 1999 and I actually haven't seen the interviews that have people talking about him because I really don't give a damn but from what I've heard...somebody should have cared enough...long ago to discuss his bullshit...long before NOW!

.

[Edited 3/6/11 14:27pm]

BlackandRising said:

Very interesting article that should shed some light on this...topic, for those who take the time to read and absorb.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/scott-barry-kaufman/creative-people_b_829563.html

After the Show: The Many Faces of the Performer

Recounting his recording sessions with the youngMichael Jackson, famed record producer Quincy Jonesremembers that "Michael was so shy, he'd sit down and sing behind the couch with his back to me while I sat with my hands over my eyes -- and the lights off." What a contrast from his onstage extroverted, charismatic and bold performance!

In the CNN.com article "The confusing legacy of Michael Jackson," Todd Leopold discusses the perplexing combination of seemingly contradictory traits displayed by Michael Jackson. In explaining his many sides, Jackson biographer J. Randy Taraborelli essentially throws his hands up in the air in exasperation as he tries to make sense of the apparent contradictions:

I think that when you're talking about Michael Jackson and you try to analyze him, it's like analyzing electricity, you know? It exists, but you don't have a clue as to how it works.

Creativity researchers aren't so confused. They have long-ago accepted the fact that creative people are complex. Almost by definition, creativity is complex. Creative thinking is influenced by many traits, behaviors, and so...ne person. It would be surprising if all of these factors didn't sometimes, or even most of the time, appear to contradict one another.

As creativity researcher Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi notes in his 1996 article for Psychology Today entitled "The Creative Personality," creative people "show tendencies of thought and action that in most people are segregated. They contain contradictory extremes; instead of being an "individual," each of them is a "multitude."

To me, some of the most fascinating contrasts are those found in creative performers -- those who are constantly on stage and in the public eye. Out of Csikszentmihaly's list of 10 complex personality traits of creative people, which were based on interviews with a wide variety of creative people, I think these three are the most relevant to creative performers:

These three seeming contradictions -- energy/rest, extroversion/introversion, and openness/sensitivity -- are not separate phenomenon but are intimately related to one another and along with other traits form the core of the creative performer's personality.

All three are also linked to what Elaine Aron refers to as a highly sensitive personality (HSP). HSP's make up 15-20 percent of the general population and tend to be more aware than others of subtleties, get more easily overwhelmed when things get too intense or there is too much sensory input, are easily affected by other's moods, and are deeply creative and moved by arts and music. Some of the most creative people have very high levels of sensitivity.

A recent study illustrates this point. Psychologist Jennifer O. Grimes went to three major summer metal rock tours, including one of the largest heavy metal/hard rock festivals in the world -- "Ozzfest." Talk about extroverted performers! Grimes interviewed 21 musicians associated with signed touring acts in an isolated room backstage for approximately 20-25 minutes.

Behind the curtain, how did these hard rock musicians describe themselves? Below are some of Jennifer's impressions (for a fuller summary, see here).

Introversion / Extroversion

• All participants showed interest in physical activities but also reported requiring "alone time."

• Most participants reported "overthinking everything" and being hypercritical, exhibiting critical attention to detail and a careful method of planning everything.

• Those familiar only with the subjects' stage persona believed the subjects to be friendly, bold and approachable. The acquaintances who were able to respond to Grimes' interview questionnaire reported that the subjects were not approachable or appeared to hold a condescending view of others until one became better acquainted with the individual. Those closer to the musicians thought they were warm, friendly, calm and pleasant.

• The introverts in her sample seemed adept at using introversion and extroversion in various facades to manipulate their appearances to the various circles of friends, acquaintances and others. As Grimes puts it, musicians were adept at "juggling multiple faces" (I really like this way of phrasing it!).

• Many of Grimes's participants felt as though they were often misunderstood or perceived in a negative light, sometimes due to shyness.

Openness / Sensitivity

• The musicians in Grimes's sample reported being in the zone onstage, and being able to "tune out" external stimuli unrelated to the task. At the same time, Grimes found a lot of the musicians reported a heightened sensitivity to their surroundings and their experience of sound, lighting, scents, etc.

• All of the musicians reported some degree of unusual perceptions, especially relating to high sensory sensitivity.

• All participants described music as a means of self-expression, relating to others, and finding fulfillment. Subjects reported that listening to or creating music allowed them to recharge when overstimulated.

• Musicians reported that any amount of inhibition hindered creative production. Apparently, this was a conscious decision: artists explained how they learned to work with the process so that they did not unintentionally inhibit their creativity by blocking their own flow.

• Many of Grimes's subjects showed an appreciation of fantasy; daydreaming was commonly reported.

• Grimes concludes that it is her hope that the stereotyping about introversion will cease to pervade introversion literature without unbiased support for those claims.

So that's heavy metal rockers. Are they the only performers who show these seeming contradictions? Perhaps other extroverted performers, such as stand-up comedians, show similar complexities.

Psychologists Gil Greengross and Geoffrey Miller compared the personality traits of 31 professional stand-up comedians and nine amateur comedians against the personality traits of 10 humor writers and 400 college students. They found that the comedians (both professional and amateur) scored on average thelowest in self-reported extroversion, even lower than comedy writers!

According to the researchers:

The public perceives comedians as ostentatious and flashy. Their persona on stage is often mistakenly seen interchangeably with their real personality, and the jokes they tell about their lives are considered by many to have a grain of truth in them. However, the results of this study suggest that the opposite is true. Perhaps comedians use their performance to disguise who they are in their daily life. Comedians may portray someone they want to be, or perhaps their act is a way to defy the constraints imposed on their everyday events and interactions with others.

The evidence is clear: for a large majority of performers, in some of the most extroverted forms of performance, there is a great ability to juggle multiple faces and a need for downtime and reflection. New psychological research is showing just how intertwined and prevalent Openness to Experience, flow, abnormal perceptual experiences, and extroversion/introversion contradictions really are in creative people, especially artists. Hopefully by combining methods, such as self-reported experiences, peer reports, and more objective tests, we can shed more light on the many complexities and seeming contradictions found in creative people of many different flavors, and by so doing counter common black-and-white stereotypes about people in general.

Thank you for posting. I found this post very informative as it relates to my own creative trippy self AND that of others!

Coming from Mani, I give her statements about hoping to never see him like Charlie Sheen very seriously. Just this morning i joked about the bizarre state that Prince seemed to be in in the 90's, jokingly comparing that era as his Charlie Sheen era.

It's one thing for people who do not know him, to say something like that in passing, as just an assumption to the mental state they are in. It is something completely different to have your ex-wife post the same thing on her public Facebook page. I think that post confirms for me what I have been thinking all along about the man's mental health.

If he is as ill as I suspect, and with what we have seen with Charlie Sheen, I will stop with my taking this as something to joke about and hope he gets well instead.

[Edited 3/6/11 14:42pm]

NouveauDance said:

vitriol said:

Do you mean mental issues... like the ones that made you start this thread, for example?

I lost it.

Really? That made you lose it? It isn't that clever......

I doubt it. Prince has a strong personality and sometimes may be strange for most people. But ´mental health issues´ is too much, unless you consider that MOST people have them.

vandeluca said:

Epilepsy is not AIDS...You can have it today and not tomorrow..or ever...Anyway, carry on...with your diatribe..

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

"if you are lucky and it can be controlled or it can disappear (hence you are 'cured right?)"

Wrong! Mr. Earving "Magic" Johnson's AIDS has been controlled and his symptoms have disappeared but he STILL has the disease because there IS NO KNOWN CURE for it...right?

No one said Prince nor anyone else has mental illness because they have epilepsy. A question was asked and informative post was presented that offered some insight. Nothing more...nothing less.

People like me...haven't run with anything based on that! All I've said is..."it's people like YOU...that can't seem to handle anything related to Prince that isn't praising him to the highest degree." that make it difficult to have interesting conversations in this forum. I completely stand by that!

Since you're checking up on me though...I have nothing to hide. So for the record, I have way more than almost 9000 posts. I've been a fixture around here...in one form or another since 2002.

And I don't watch "Two and a Half Men" so I haven't watched Charlie Sheen since he was in "Being John Malkovich" in 1999 and I actually haven't seen the interviews that have people talking about him because I really don't give a damn but from what I've heard...somebody should have cared enough...long ago to discuss his bullshit...long before NOW!

.

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No, it isn't and I didn't say nor insinuate that it was.

However, they are BOTH ailments with NO KNOWN CURES. So you cannot have either of them today and not have them tomorrow...AS OF YET!

You can have them today and not have the symptoms and/or complications of them...tomorrow or whatever...but unfortunately...that does not mean you've been cured!

Just look at what's been posted. You're the one having the "diatribe"...not me!

Yes you can have epilepsy today and not have it tomorrow. You can have seizures today and never have one again....Your body has cured , gotten rid of it, no more taking medicine....etc.....Keep educating the masses though..lol....You're good...

So are you saying Prince still has epilepsy too? He had it before, but not now.....

Please though enough with the word 'cured'..you are wasting time..you know what I mean...I've stated from the begninning there is no known cure...so what is really your point besides to argue?

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

vandeluca said:

Epilepsy is not AIDS...You can have it today and not tomorrow..or ever...Anyway, carry on...with your diatribe..

No, it isn't and I didn't say nor insinuate that it was.

However, they are BOTH ailments with NO KNOWN CURES. So you cannot have either of them today and not have them tomorrow...AS OF YET!

You can have them today and not have the symptoms and/or complications of them...tomorrow or whatever...but unfortunately...that does not mean you've been cured!

Just look at what's been posted. You're the one having the "diatribe"...not me!

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[Edited 3/6/11 15:40pm]

vandeluca said:

Yes you can have epilepsy today and not have it tomorrow. You can have seizures today and never have one again....Your body has cured , gotten rid of it, no more taking medicine....etc.....Keep educating the masses though..lol....You're good...

So are you saying Prince still has epilepsy too? He had it before, but not now.....

Please though enough with the word 'cured'..you are wasting time..you know what I mean...I've stated from the begninning there is no known cure...so what is really your point besides to argue?

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

No, it isn't and I didn't say nor insinuate that it was.

However, they are BOTH ailments with NO KNOWN CURES. So you cannot have either of them today and not have them tomorrow...AS OF YET!

You can have them today and not have the symptoms and/or complications of them...tomorrow or whatever...but unfortunately...that does not mean you've been cured!

Just look at what's been posted. You're the one having the "diatribe"...not me!

[Edited 3/6/11 15:39pm]

[Edited 3/6/11 15:40pm]

No, you didn't!

But anyway...it's all about whatever you say! THANKS so much...for personifying my point...while you're at it.

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Reread my posts hothead..it is there....(about the cure).....Oh..and actually you can cure it sometime via surgery...But anyway, this is way off topic. You are one of those kinds of women that argues for the sake of it. You chose an appropriate moniker.

Now...enlighten the rest of the members please about the Original posting..Carry on..You can quite possibly take it to 10k tonight.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

vandeluca said:

Yes you can have epilepsy today and not have it tomorrow. You can have seizures today and never have one again....Your body has cured , gotten rid of it, no more taking medicine....etc.....Keep educating the masses though..lol....You're good...

So are you saying Prince still has epilepsy too? He had it before, but not now.....

Please though enough with the word 'cured'..you are wasting time..you know what I mean...I've stated from the begninning there is no known cure...so what is really your point besides to argue?

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No, you didn't!

But anyway...it's all about whatever you say! THANKS so much...for personifying my point...while you're at it.

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Unfortunately there's a large percentage of his fan base that seems to.

A lot of them start threads asking questions that are in very poor taste that no one here could possibly answer, and anyone that could would not be here and would not answer.

QuasarOfRock said:

Unfortunately there's a large percentage of his fan base that seems to.

A lot of them start threads asking questions that are in very poor taste that no one here could possibly answer, and anyone that could would not be here and would not answer.

PenelopePaige said:

A serious question. Regarding what Manuela posted on her Facebook, about hoping to never see him on 20/20 ranting like Charlie Sheen, plus other things people have said over the years regarding things he's said and done that seem a little "off" I have to wonder if he could legitmately have mental health issues. Also, you know, the true genius's sometimes are crazy and he is a genuis musically, what do you guys think?

wtf kind of stupid question is this?!? Do you think his therapist, if he had one, would be posting here? Because that's the ONLY person who could answer that question.

2elijah said:

PenelopePaige said:

Well, just various things I've read on here and in different publications; like, if he DID lock Sinead O'Conner in a closet- I've had beef with people but I've never locked another in a closet- I think I also read that he threatened to beat her up- Not normal behavior for a man to a woman-

I also remember reading in Blender or some magazine, years ago about some artist (I THINK it was Paul Westerberg- lead singer of the Replacements- but I will have to double check and get back to you) who was renting space at Paisley Park to work on an album and in the middle of working on his music , Prince came into the booth and introduced himself, then began asking him about music he had made in the 80's or 90's, and asking him why he cursed in his music and all this other crazy stuff, the guy was confused as to what in the hell was happening and then Prince kicked him out of Paisley Park, even locking him out before he could get all his stuff. I mean, this is the guy who wrote "Pussy Control" and "Bob George" (which is crazy violent) and talked about f&%$ing his sister. And then the paranoid stuff, Chemtrails, and just his behavior in general, sometimes he seems a little nuts. I will research that article I'm referring to and try to post it.

This seems like a "bait" thread, just like the other one you started in this forum asking why he doesn't pay his bills. Come on, admit it, you're a "reuser."

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Oh geez, is that her too?!? I just saw the title, hadn't looked at it yet. I was already aggravated after seeing her Mani thread and this one.

PP =

Serena said:

2elijah said:

This seems like a "bait" thread, just like the other one you started in this forum asking why he doesn't pay his bills. Come on, admit it, you're a "reuser."

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Oh geez, is that her too?!? I just saw the title, hadn't looked at it yet. I was already aggravated after seeing her Mani thread and this one.

PP =

You're right. From now on, if ever I post another thread on here it will be something sweet and uncontroversial like;

1. Prince is handsome

2. Gee I love Purple Rain

3. Prince is the sexiest man of all time

All of which is true, but please! Excuse me for posting something a bit more thought provoking and like I already said, everything thread I posted today I READ ABOUT ON THE ORG FIRST!

So chill.

PenelopePaige said:

Serena said:

Oh geez, is that her too?!? I just saw the title, hadn't looked at it yet. I was already aggravated after seeing her Mani thread and this one.

PP =

You're right. From now on, if ever I post another thread on here it will be something sweet and uncontroversial like;

1. Prince is handsome

2. Gee I love Purple Rain

3. Prince is the sexiest man of all time

All of which is true, but please! Excuse me for posting something a bit more thought provoking and like I already said, everything thread I posted today I READ ABOUT ON THE ORG FIRST!

So chill.

Yeah whatever. If you were really a brand new member, you wouldn't be trolling like this. As for your Mani questions, I said that you should ask those questions in the appropriate thread, not start a whole new one.

Serena said:

PenelopePaige said:

You're right. From now on, if ever I post another thread on here it will be something sweet and uncontroversial like;

1. Prince is handsome

2. Gee I love Purple Rain

3. Prince is the sexiest man of all time

All of which is true, but please! Excuse me for posting something a bit more thought provoking and like I already said, everything thread I posted today I READ ABOUT ON THE ORG FIRST!

So chill.

Yeah whatever. If you were really a brand new member, you wouldn't be trolling like this. As for your Mani questions, I said that you should ask those questions in the appropriate thread, not start a whole new one.

I only started a new one because I just keep reading bits and pieces on here about her but have not heard the entire story- I've heard she slept with Prince when he was married to Mayte but am not sure where that came from- I guess no one really knows if it's true or not but I was wondering why people thought it was- I also heard she was wearing Mayte's clothes and wanted to know where that came from? Did someone see her in Mayte's clothes or was she photographed in them or was this a rumor? I was just wanted to hear the whole story, not read about her FB status-