I'm imagining sat on the curb, mascara running down his cheeks and bin bags full of pastel-coloured stacked flip-flops.

NouveauDance said:

I'm imagining sat on the curb, mascara running down his cheeks and bin bags full of pastel-coloured stacked flip-flops.

Limping up to reception at The Salvation Army Minneapolis and asking for a room.

One heel missing, polka dot hankie filled with guitar picks and a hairdye, over the shoulder tied to an unpaid for walking cane.

Spinlight said:

vitriol said:

I hope he finally bites the dust.

He really deserves some hard punishment (and his purse is the most aching point for him).

He loves to charge money even for the air that is fortunate enough to be breathed by him, but always fails with his payment obligations.

As I said many times before, he's the meanest and most despicable artist I've ever read about.

I literally have never, not once, read about a star with as much financial problems as Prince. And by problems, I mean that he refuses to pay his bills and is constantly getting press for it.

Michael Jackson?

That's too bad...for both not paying up yet again and for possibly losing a home. Shitty.

oh, is it spring already? Paisley Lawsuit Season is upon is again. it's getting to be a yearly tradition.

vitriol said:

I hope he finally bites the dust.

He really deserves some hard punishment (and his purse is the most aching point for him).

He loves to charge money even for the air that is fortunate enough to be breathed by him, but always fails with his payment obligations.

As I said many times before, he's the meanest and most despicable artist I've ever read about.

You're right! I think if he lost a lot of what he's "taken" or earned, then maybe it will put him back to the days when he was producing better music. Get a little humble and go back to the well... not saying go back to the days of sitting outside a McDonalds and smelling the burgers cookin', but at least to where he knows he needs to give the fans what they need.

he wont lose his home....he just doesnt like paying bills like the rest of us....he will wait til the last minute.....he must be worth a 100 million by now...

NouveauDance said:

I'm imagining sat on the curb, mascara running down his cheeks and bin bags full of pastel-coloured stacked flip-flops.

Time Upon A Once, Back 'n Tha Day....

*harp sound*

_________________________________

MONEY DON'T MATTER 2NITE (Org/Murph Drag Edit)

One more credit card comin' thru
Unlucky 4 them again
He never had respect 4 money it's true
That's why they'll never win
That's why he never ever does enough
2 treat his fan-base right
He just pushes them away in a huff
And says "$1000 - stage right'

Music don't matter 2night
It sure did matter yesterday
Just when u think u've had more than enough
That's when you'll come back 4 more and lap it up again
That's when u find out that u're better off
Makin' sure your account's alright
Cuz money didn't matter 2 him yesterday,
but it sure does matter 2night

Look, here's another cool investment
Larry's tellin' fams he can't cut loose
So he goes off and tries 2 find an answer
but all he finds are losers (losers!)
All he finds are bibles in every color
Every language, type-font and size
Seems like the only thing he can't do
Is just split his thighs, and say...

Music don't matter 2night (oh it matters!)
It sure did matter yesterday
Just when u think u've had more than enough
That's when you'll come back 4 more and lap it up again
That's when u find out that u're better off
Makin' sure your account's alright (is your account alright?)
Cuz money didn't matter 2 him yesterday, (dont matter)
but it sure does matter 2night

THE ORG CHOIR: (ooh-wee-ooh, it matters)

PRINCE: (No, it dont matter 2 night, at all...)

Hey now, maybe we can find a good reason:
makin' music that is such a bore
So what if he's controllin' all the funk,
Is it worth u actually buying more? (is it worth it?)
If a decent album is what we all live 4
Then maybe this hope will come 2 pass
Anything is better than the picture of a fam
In a cloud of purple gas
And u know we got it bad...

Music don't matter 2 night (oh, it matters!)
It sure did matter yesterday (yesterday)
Just when u think u've had more than enough
That's when u can all get up and walk away (walk away, walk away)
That's when u find out that u're better off
Makin' sure your account's alright (make certain that it's all alright)
Cuz music used 2 matter yesterday,
...but it sure don't matter 2 night

Fans don't matter 2 night
They sure used 2 matter yesterday (yesterday, yesterday)
Just when u think u've had more than enough
That's when u can all get up and walk away (walk away, walk away)
That's when u find out that u're better off
Makin' sure your account's alright
Money didn't matter yesterday,
but it sure does matter 2 night

Purple Wayback Machine

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[Edited 3/2/11 16:54pm]

blackbob said:

he wont lose his home....he just doesnt like paying bills like the rest of us....he will wait til the last minute.....he must be worth a 100 million by now...

At this point in his career, I was thinking between 150-200 million. But what about "cash on hand"? Is he cash rich? Will these tours give him the influx of cash needed to pay these debts and still support his extravagant lifestyle? Or will he have to work even harder in 2012?

Xibalba said:

NouveauDance said:

I'm imagining sat on the curb, mascara running down his cheeks and bin bags full of pastel-coloured stacked flip-flops.

Time Upon A Once, Back 'n Tha Day....

*harp sound*

_________________________________

MONEY DON'T MATTER 2NITE (Org/Murph Drag Edit)

One more credit card comin' thru
Unlucky 4 them again
He never had respect 4 money it's true
That's why they'll never win
That's why he never ever does enough
2 treat his fan-base right
He just pushes them away in a huff
And says "$1000 - stage right'

Music don't matter 2night
It sure did matter yesterday
Just when u think u've had more than enough
That's when you'll come back 4 more and lap it up again
That's when u find out that u're better off
Makin' sure your account's alright
Cuz money didn't matter 2 him yesterday,
but it sure does matter 2night

Look, here's another cool investment
Larry's tellin' fams he can't cut loose
So he goes off and tries 2 find an answer
but all he finds are losers (losers!)
All he finds are bibles in every color
Every language, type-font and size
Seems like the only thing he can't do
Is just split his thighs, and say...

Music don't matter 2night (oh it matters!)
It sure did matter yesterday
Just when u think u've had more than enough
That's when you'll come back 4 more and lap it up again
That's when u find out that u're better off
Makin' sure your account's alright (is your account alright?)
Cuz money didn't matter 2 him yesterday, (dont matter)
but it sure does matter 2night

THE ORG CHOIR: (ooh-wee-ooh, it matters)

PRINCE: (No, it dont matter 2 night, at all...)

Hey now, maybe we can find a good reason:
makin' music that is such a bore
So what if he's controllin' all the funk,
Is it worth u actually buying more? (is it worth it?)
If a decent album is what we all live 4
Then maybe this hope will come 2 pass
Anything is better than the picture of a fam
In a cloud of purple gas
And u know we got it bad...

Music don't matter 2 night (oh, it matters!)
It sure did matter yesterday (yesterday)
Just when u think u've had more than enough
That's when u can all get up and walk away (walk away, walk away)
That's when u find out that u're better off
Makin' sure your account's alright (make certain that it's all alright)
Cuz music used 2 matter yesterday,
...but it sure don't matter 2 night

Fans don't matter 2 night
They sure used 2 matter yesterday (yesterday, yesterday)
Just when u think u've had more than enough
That's when u can all get up and walk away (walk away, walk away)
That's when u find out that u're better off
Makin' sure your account's alright
Money didn't matter yesterday,
but it sure does matter 2 night

Purple Wayback Machine

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[Edited 3/2/11 16:54pm]

TheDigitalGardener said:

NouveauDance said:

I'm imagining sat on the curb, mascara running down his cheeks and bin bags full of pastel-coloured stacked flip-flops.

Limping up to reception at The Salvation Army Minneapolis and asking for a room.

One heel missing, polka dot hankie filled with guitar picks and a hairdye, over the shoulder tied to an unpaid for walking cane.

Again.....personal business = none of our business! Oh My Gosh....how people love unwanted drama! Half of us are just as irresponsible, we are just fortunate not to have it thrown all over the media.

Chiquetet said:

RubyButterfly said:

When it purple rains, it pours.

Although this is basically just the next installment of the same legal drama that he's had going on for some time right?

It does seem that it's a choice Prince makes, which is to not pay bills unless he absolutely has to (ie. should the court rule against him and make moves to take his house - which it almost certainly will not - then he'll pay up).

I don't think he actually gives much consideration to that side of things at all - I suspect we worry about it more than he does

"When Prince walks into an office building, janitors have to put down wet floor signs around the women." -- THIS IS AN AWESOME TAGLINE AND I BET IT'S PRETTY TRUE

CocoRock said:

*waits for the Purple Apologist Crew to arrive*

Why would anyone make apologies for Prince. He has not done anything to you or anyone else on this board

No orger is going to get any part of a judgement.

NouveauDance said:

I'm imagining sat on the curb, mascara running down his cheeks and bin bags full of pastel-coloured stacked flip-flops.

The level of ignorance on this board is amazing.

cuerpoyalma said:

Again.....personal business = none of our business! Oh My Gosh....how people love unwanted drama! Half of us are just as irresponsible, we are just fortunate not to have it thrown all over the media.

If I were a famous, multi-million dollar celebrity, my personal business would get splashed all over the media, too. Comes with the territory, unfortunately. I'm not saying it's right, but it's been that way for ages and isn't going to change. They only way to totally avoid it is to NOT be famous.

What I wonder about is why sanctimonious people even click on and read these kind of threads and the articles they often link to, being that the topic matter disgusts and doesn't interest them.

cuerpoyalma said:

bullshit

the guy is a MILLIONARE

too much drama...

Deadstar said:

Oh dear.... http://www.music-news.com...emID=39703

And some of you want to date this man?! IMO he would go out the back door of a restaurant and leave you with the bill!

laurarichardson said:

NouveauDance said:

I'm imagining sat on the curb, mascara running down his cheeks and bin bags full of pastel-coloured stacked flip-flops.

The level of ignorance on this board is amazing.

So is the level of stupidity.

This is getting interesting.

Here's how I'm starting to look at this:

Given that we just heard about Prince getting sued by "his law firm" a few days ago..... is it possible that Prince (who hates contracts) NEVER signed a contract for this law firm to represent him? OR, only authorised them to represent him for specific usages, that might not include this case?

THEREFORE.....

If this SAME law firm is the one that agreed to the settlement with Desmond/MCD - Prince could now turn around and say "I never authorised these guys to represent me in this lawsuit" - which means the terms and amounts of the settlement would be NULL AND VOID. And MCD would have to start from scratch.

Before the negative hate brigade jump on me, this is obviously speculation.

But, it's logical, given that he's getting sued by the same law firm that came to this settlement agreement with MCD.

I'm not saying that Prince didn't TELL those lawyers to represent him for that case. I'm saying that maybe, just maybe.... those lawyers can't PROVE that he did.

Militant said:

This is getting interesting.

Here's how I'm starting to look at this:

Given that we just heard about Prince getting sued by "his law firm" a few days ago..... is it possible that Prince (who hates contracts) NEVER signed a contract for this law firm to represent him? OR, only authorised them to represent him for specific usages, that might not include this case?

THEREFORE.....

If this SAME law firm is the one that agreed to the settlement with Desmond/MCD - Prince could now turn around and say "I never authorised these guys to represent me in this lawsuit" - which means the terms and amounts of the settlement would be NULL AND VOID. And MCD would have to start from scratch.

Before the negative hate brigade jump on me, this is obviously speculation.

But, it's logical, given that he's getting sued by the same law firm that came to this settlement agreement with MCD.

I'm not saying that Prince didn't TELL those lawyers to represent him for that case. I'm saying that maybe, just maybe.... those lawyers can't PROVE that he did.

Good lord.

Prince can talk about hating contracts 'til he's blue in the face, but the bottom line is he 100% would have signed a contract with these guys (and many other contracts with others). No lawyer would work for someone without a legal written contract.

It's silly to even speculate on it.

JustErin said:

Good lord.

Prince can talk about hating contracts 'til he's blue in the face, but the bottom line is he 100% would have signed a contract with these guys (and many other contracts with others). No lawyer would work for someone without a legal written contract.

It's silly to even speculate on it.

Well that just plain ain't true. My old man's a lawyer. So was my late mother. Plenty of lawyers have long-term clientele agreements that don't necessarily allow them to AUTOMATICALLY represent them for every single case.

I'm saying that even if Prince had an agreement with these lawyers, and EVEN if he called em up and said "Deal with this shit for me", if there's no written evidence that Prince specifically asked them to represent him in this specific case - then he can dispute it. We know that Prince has not paid these lawyers either. Maybe there's a reason for that.

Is it likely? Perhaps not. Is it possible? Sure.

It's even possible that these lawyers were hired by somebody that no longer represents Prince. His current manager, Kiran Sharma, has not been working for him for that long, I don't think. So it's also possible that Prince stopped working with management who hired this lawyers, and the terms of his management agreement make anyone THEY hired not legally authorized to represent him anymore.

You're quick to shoot down these scenarios, but if you study Michael Jackson's numerous lawsuits, you'll find that this shit happened to MJ all the time. There's even evidence to suggest that the people running his estate now were NEVER actually re-hired by MJ after he was known to have fired them, and that the will stating that that's what he wanted was either void, or completely forged. It's no coincidence that some of these people claim to have been re-hired by MJ just before he died. As in, days before. With no evidence to support that. Some of the people that worked on the fake songs on the new album are also known to have business relationships with some of these people who claim that MJ re-hired them. It's the kind of thing that happens when you're dealing with millions of dollars. And if can happen to MJ, which it did, on NUMEROUS occasions...... it can certainly happen to Prince.

To be succint, there's almost DEFINITELY shit going on here that we don't know about. For all the bad business decisions Prince has made, he isn't stupid. If he didn't have at least one card left to play, he'd have paid by now. It's not like he doesn't have the money.

Militant said:

JustErin said:

Good lord.

Prince can talk about hating contracts 'til he's blue in the face, but the bottom line is he 100% would have signed a contract with these guys (and many other contracts with others). No lawyer would work for someone without a legal written contract.

It's silly to even speculate on it.

Well that just plain ain't true. My old man's a lawyer. So was my late mother. Plenty of lawyers have long-term clientele agreements that don't necessarily allow them to AUTOMATICALLY represent them for every single case.

I'm saying that even if Prince had an agreement with these lawyers, and EVEN if he called em up and said "Deal with this shit for me", if there's no written evidence that Prince specifically asked them to represent him in this specific case - then he can dispute it. We know that Prince has not paid these lawyers either. Maybe there's a reason for that.

Is it likely? Perhaps not. Is it possible? Sure.

It's even possible that these lawyers were hired by somebody that no longer represents Prince. His current manager, Kiran Sharma, has not been working for him for that long, I don't think. So it's also possible that Prince stopped working with management who hired this lawyers, and the terms of his management agreement make anyone THEY hired not legally authorized to represent him anymore.

You're quick to shoot down these scenarios, but if you study Michael Jackson's numerous lawsuits, you'll find that this shit happened to MJ all the time. There's even evidence to suggest that the people running his estate now were NEVER actually re-hired by MJ after he was known to have fired them, and that the will stating that that's what he wanted was either void, or completely forged. It's no coincidence that some of these people claim to have been re-hired by MJ just before he died. As in, days before. With no evidence to support that. Some of the people that worked on the fake songs on the new album are also known to have business relationships with some of these people who claim that MJ re-hired them. It's the kind of thing that happens when you're dealing with millions of dollars. And if can happen to MJ, which it did, on NUMEROUS occasions...... it can certainly happen to Prince.

To be succint, there's almost DEFINITELY shit going on here that we don't know about. For all the bad business decisions Prince has made, he isn't stupid. If he didn't have at least one card left to play, he'd have paid by now. It's not like he doesn't have the money.

That isn't even what I said.

JustErin said:

That isn't even what I said.

You're saying no lawyer would work for someone without a contract. I'm saying it's not the contract that's important - but the TERMS of the contract.

It's likely Prince had a contract with these lawyers. It's also likely that the contract didn't specifically state that they represent him for any and every lawsuit against him.

I'm saying that Prince COULD claim that he never told them to represent him in the lawsuit against MCD. Even if he did. Because there may not be any written evidence that states that. Like I said though, I'm just speculating, but what's clear is that there's more to this than meets the eye. Prince ain't stupid, and he probably has a plan.

Another thing is that Prince didn't have a contract with Desmond in the first place. The only reason he was found liable was because a judge (in Ireland) made that call at his own discretion. Not every judge would do that.

If there's one thing I know about law, it's that there's a billion loopholes and ways around things. That's why so many lawsuits drag out for years, and also why every day, people who are guilty of crimes don't get convicted for them. It's entirely possible that with the RIGHT strategy, Prince can avoid paying anyone any money whatsoever. And you can bet Prince is thinking about that.

[Edited 3/2/11 20:08pm]

Militant said:

JustErin said:

Good lord.

Prince can talk about hating contracts 'til he's blue in the face, but the bottom line is he 100% would have signed a contract with these guys (and many other contracts with others). No lawyer would work for someone without a legal written contract.

It's silly to even speculate on it.

Well that just plain ain't true. My old man's a lawyer. So was my late mother. Plenty of lawyers have long-term clientele agreements that don't necessarily allow them to AUTOMATICALLY represent them for every single case.

I'm saying that even if Prince had an agreement with these lawyers, and EVEN if he called em up and said "Deal with this shit for me", if there's no written evidence that Prince specifically asked them to represent him in this specific case - then he can dispute it. We know that Prince has not paid these lawyers either. Maybe there's a reason for that.

Is it likely? Perhaps not. Is it possible? Sure.

It's even possible that these lawyers were hired by somebody that no longer represents Prince. His current manager, Kiran Sharma, has not been working for him for that long, I don't think. So it's also possible that Prince stopped working with management who hired this lawyers, and the terms of his management agreement make anyone THEY hired not legally authorized to represent him anymore.

You're quick to shoot down these scenarios, but if you study Michael Jackson's numerous lawsuits, you'll find that this shit happened to MJ all the time. There's even evidence to suggest that the people running his estate now were NEVER actually re-hired by MJ after he was known to have fired them, and that the will stating that that's what he wanted was either void, or completely forged. It's no coincidence that some of these people claim to have been re-hired by MJ just before he died. As in, days before. With no evidence to support that. Some of the people that worked on the fake songs on the new album are also known to have business relationships with some of these people who claim that MJ re-hired them. It's the kind of thing that happens when you're dealing with millions of dollars. And if can happen to MJ, which it did, on NUMEROUS occasions...... it can certainly happen to Prince.

To be succint, there's almost DEFINITELY shit going on here that we don't know about. For all the bad business decisions Prince has made, he isn't stupid. If he didn't have at least one card left to play, he'd have paid by now. It's not like he doesn't have the money.

What he is saying is the true.

Spinlight said:

It is interesting to note that Prince has money socked away in France and Portugal.

I would think that this money would be related to the 20ten concerts he performed in those territories last year and the Irish promoters have prevented him from receiving those funds.

7souls said:

cuerpoyalma said:

Again.....personal business = none of our business! Oh My Gosh....how people love unwanted drama! Half of us are just as irresponsible, we are just fortunate not to have it thrown all over the media.

So if it's personal business and none of our business, why did you click on the thread and read it just like the rest of us?

Because I am entitled to click, read, and reply to whatever the hell I want. I am interested in the subject matter, but I am mostly responding to the people who post on here......acting as if they are holier than friggin' thou. We have enough negative critics roaming the planet.

Militant said:

JustErin said:

Good lord.

Prince can talk about hating contracts 'til he's blue in the face, but the bottom line is he 100% would have signed a contract with these guys (and many other contracts with others). No lawyer would work for someone without a legal written contract.

It's silly to even speculate on it.

Well that just plain ain't true. My old man's a lawyer. So was my late mother. Plenty of lawyers have long-term clientele agreements that don't necessarily allow them to AUTOMATICALLY represent them for every single case.

I'm saying that even if Prince had an agreement with these lawyers, and EVEN if he called em up and said "Deal with this shit for me", if there's no written evidence that Prince specifically asked them to represent him in this specific case - then he can dispute it. We know that Prince has not paid these lawyers either. Maybe there's a reason for that.

Is it likely? Perhaps not. Is it possible? Sure.

It's even possible that these lawyers were hired by somebody that no longer represents Prince. His current manager, Kiran Sharma, has not been working for him for that long, I don't think. So it's also possible that Prince stopped working with management who hired this lawyers, and the terms of his management agreement make anyone THEY hired not legally authorized to represent him anymore.

You're quick to shoot down these scenarios, but if you study Michael Jackson's numerous lawsuits, you'll find that this shit happened to MJ all the time. There's even evidence to suggest that the people running his estate now were NEVER actually re-hired by MJ after he was known to have fired them, and that the will stating that that's what he wanted was either void, or completely forged. It's no coincidence that some of these people claim to have been re-hired by MJ just before he died. As in, days before. With no evidence to support that. Some of the people that worked on the fake songs on the new album are also known to have business relationships with some of these people who claim that MJ re-hired them. It's the kind of thing that happens when you're dealing with millions of dollars. And if can happen to MJ, which it did, on NUMEROUS occasions...... it can certainly happen to Prince.

To be succint, there's almost DEFINITELY shit going on here that we don't know about. For all the bad business decisions Prince has made, he isn't stupid. If he didn't have at least one card left to play, he'd have paid by now. It's not like he doesn't have the money.

Your Old Man being a lawyer does not make you one.

"The firm represented Prince in a New York case where a perfume company sued him for failing to promote "3121", which was billed as a "sexy scent" packaged in a purple box.

Its lawyers also worked on finalizing his divorce; on suits for concerts he canceled in Dublin and California; and when he sued over a rented Beverly Hills mansion."

The article goes on to say that they have received partial payment for their services, which even with the impossible notion you put forth that there is no written contract, is proof of a business transaction. Given that they are a law firm, care to venture a guess as to the nature of the business? Each of these represent a distinct and individual case. Each would require authorization from Prince to represent him in each matter as he was named defendant in each case. And dealing with EU law requires even more crossed T's and dotted I's. To think that a law firm would jump on a plane and run off to fight an international lawsuit, that is binding by the way, on a whim is absurd. A more likely scenario is they lost the case because Prince did not have a legal leg to stand on, and he got pissed and refused to pay.