RenHoek said:

As I'm sure any and ALL guitarists will attest to, THEIR personal guitar is a piece of them, it's part of their soul, their presence.

Then don't throw it away.

Regardless of what anybody feels about this incident, the title of this news item on the front page really scrapes the bottom of the barrel. Not that prince.org is supposed to be a serious news agency, but I don't think I've seen similar bullshit titles appear on any other music-related sites.

FrankieDJ said:

$795? That Hohner giutar costs $3000....

RenHoek said:

after reading the whole thread and all the attached articles I agree with the stagehand... "it's just a show"...

Sure, a throwaway article of clothing i.e. a scarf or a hat, is commonly kept by the person catching it.

but no performer is ever going to give away HIS custom guitar let alone a $795 version of it...

For that guy to think that it's "his" guitar is the height of arrogance and I think he's just bitter that he squandered his chance to take a cool picture like that other dude up in this thread...

further evidence that I know jack shit about guitars...

novabrkr said:

RenHoek said:

As I'm sure any and ALL guitarists will attest to, THEIR personal guitar is a piece of them, it's part of their soul, their presence.

Then don't throw it away.

Regardless of what anybody feels about this incident, the title of this news item on the front page really scrapes the bottom of the barrel. Not that prince.org is supposed to be a serious news agency, but I don't think I've seen similar bullshit titles appear on any other music-related sites.

also good reason to have his staff ask for it back...

prb said:

Reminds me of Purple rain:

morris: "keep the change

*he hem* err, Jerome, get my change.

Yes.

FrankieDJ said:

$795? That Hohner giutar costs $3000....

Even more argumentation for my snares tip.

I hope the delusional guy sues. Would he be reading this?

Can we really call him a causal fan anymore?

RubyButterfly said:

I think it's cool and exciting how Prince tosses his guitar out into the audience, but he really should stop doing it. He needs to start considering the lowest common denominator in situations like this and how there are a great many people who attend his shows who are either unaware of how this works (meaning, nobody gets to keep the guitar) and wind up disappointed, or who are just whiny babies who feel they 'deserve' to keep it merely because they caught it.

Of course, maybe Prince gets off on playing this little game. Maybe he likes it when he dangles that piece of candy in front of the baby, then snatches it back and the baby gets upset.

hahaha like with lotusflow3r.com

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I'm laughing my ass off...at the:

Prince People: Obviously, we know we fucked up somewhere in all this. So here's some tickets to tomorrow's night show that you can have but only if you sign this release promising not to sue.

Man: I didn't know Prince added another show?

Prince People: He didn't.

Man: Then whose tickets are you trying to give me?

Prince People: We don't know! Somebody! Now sign...please!

Man: No thank you!

"A North Bay man is recovering from injuries he suffered at a Prince concert Wednesday evening."

Prince performed Mon, Wed and Thurs nights, didn't he?

They offered him tickets to Prince's last show and he turned them down, so that he had the opportunity to try and sue him.

Several people on this thread said that they should have at least offered him tickets to the next show. Now that we learn that they did, suddenly that's a problem too.

Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

So yes, maybe Prince should stop throwing his guitar, so that there's no chance of anyone getting hurt or suffering the mental trauma associated with thinking you'd been given a gift of a guitar for no reason for a few minutes.

Maybe he shouldn't get anyone up on stage to dance in case someone slips and falls, or gets confused and thinks that he's actually inviting them to join his band, causing mental anguish when they're asked to leave again.

Maybe while he's at it, he should turn the volume right down so as not to play havoc with anyone's delicate ears.

etc...

Chiquetet said:

Maybe he shouldn't get anyone up on stage to dance in case someone slips and falls, or gets confused and thinks that he's actually inviting them to join his band, causing mental anguish when they're asked to leave again.

Maybe while he's at it, he should turn the volume right down so as not to play havoc with anyone's delicate ears.

etc...

But we should do those things!

We can enjoy life a bit, doing these.

And if somethign fails we can enjoyi suein the hell out of someone instead.

At least that is the American way of doing things, I believe.

Please prove me wrong.

In the mean time some persective towards the future.

Because that is what we are heading at...

Spinlight said:

Chiquetet said:

prb said:

Reminds me of Purple rain:

morris: "keep the change

*he hem* err, Jerome, get my change.

wonder505 said:

babynoz said:

He should get some help from Blind Mellow Jr...

"I want my daddy's records!"

classic

As someone who has watched every episode of Sanford And Son, that is "Blind Mello Jelly." I almost turned into Bart Van Halen, and said..."For Fuck's Sake, it is Blind Mello Jelly." But I am not as smart as Bart, so I won't do it. The show was a strange tribute to Blind Lemon Jefferson, a fairly unknown Blues Artist from the 1920's.

[Edited 2/27/11 2:23am]

Off topic, but I find it kind of ironic that Bart Van Halen claims to be the know it all of everything, but in his signature, he always says the NPGMC has nothing to do with him. I kind of parody Bart's one mistake(his only mistake) in my signature. Damb. Still can't believe that Bart thinks the NPGMC is still around. I am actually kind of upset that the latest issue of Controversy Mag is a bit late, though.

Chiquetet said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I'm laughing my ass off...at the:

Prince People: Obviously, we know we fucked up somewhere in all this. So here's some tickets to tomorrow's night show that you can have but only if you sign this release promising not to sue.

Man: I didn't know Prince added another show?

Prince People: He didn't.

Man: Then whose tickets are you trying to give me?

Prince People: We don't know! Somebody! Now sign...please!

Man: No thank you!

"A North Bay man is recovering from injuries he suffered at a Prince concert Wednesday evening."

Prince performed Mon, Wed and Thurs nights, didn't he?

They offered him tickets to Prince's last show and he turned them down, so that he had the opportunity to try and sue him.

Several people on this thread said that they should have at least offered him tickets to the next show. Now that we learn that they did, suddenly that's a problem too.

Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

So yes, maybe Prince should stop throwing his guitar, so that there's no chance of anyone getting hurt or suffering the mental trauma associated with thinking you'd been given a gift of a guitar for no reason for a few minutes.

Maybe he shouldn't get anyone up on stage to dance in case someone slips and falls, or gets confused and thinks that he's actually inviting them to join his band, causing mental anguish when they're asked to leave again.

Maybe while he's at it, he should turn the volume right down so as not to play havoc with anyone's delicate ears.

etc...

According to the commentary I was responding to:

After he was treated for his injuries, he was also offered tix to the following night's show (apparently for another artist performing the next night at that venue, since as we know, Prince did not have a scheduled show the following night at that same venue), only if he signed a release form promising not to sue, but Litchfield didn't sign one.

Well, if you want to resist the system that made stuff like this stupidity commonplace, you know what to do.

You are the resistance.

Because Bart Van Halen is not named that way on the org. And not so in real life.

And how many foeign laguages do you speak and write flawlessly?

The article 2elijah shared was published just after 5pm on Thursday afternoon, before the last show had happened. Ergo, the incident happened on Wednesday night.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

According to the commentary I was responding to:

After he was treated for his injuries, he was also offered tix to the following night's show (apparently for another artist performing the next night at that venue, since as we know, Prince did not have a scheduled show the following night at that same venue), only if he signed a release form promising not to sue, but Litchfield didn't sign one.

Which is what makes almost every thread like this basically pointless.

We can all share opinions, throw our 2c in, take swipes at each other, etc... but at the end of the day it's all just different perspectives drawn mostly from assumptions and heresay, with just enough factual information to keep it interesting.

TheDigitalGardener said:

udo said:

What about Mayte in 1994 or 1995?

Mayte is a person, not an object, and no one hurled Mayte at anyone, she hurled herself.

Did someone in the audience get hit and injured by Mayte then? Who's to sue? Mayte or Prince?

Chiquetet said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I'm laughing my ass off...at the:

Prince People: Obviously, we know we fucked up somewhere in all this. So here's some tickets to tomorrow's night show that you can have but only if you sign this release promising not to sue.

Man: I didn't know Prince added another show?

Prince People: He didn't.

Man: Then whose tickets are you trying to give me?

Prince People: We don't know! Somebody! Now sign...please!

Man: No thank you!

"A North Bay man is recovering from injuries he suffered at a Prince concert Wednesday evening."

Prince performed Mon, Wed and Thurs nights, didn't he?

They offered him tickets to Prince's last show and he turned them down, so that he had the opportunity to try and sue him.

Several people on this thread said that they should have at least offered him tickets to the next show. Now that we learn that they did, suddenly that's a problem too.

Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

So yes, maybe Prince should stop throwing his guitar, so that there's no chance of anyone getting hurt or suffering the mental trauma associated with thinking you'd been given a gift of a guitar for no reason for a few minutes.

Maybe he shouldn't get anyone up on stage to dance in case someone slips and falls, or gets confused and thinks that he's actually inviting them to join his band, causing mental anguish when they're asked to leave again.

Maybe while he's at it, he should turn the volume right down so as not to play havoc with anyone's delicate ears.

etc...

If I get on that stage..I aint leavin'... I better be shaking some tamborines or at least shake my ass for him for the next couple of shows...and I betta get paid too

wonder505 said:

2elijah said:

Another article on this:

Hatrina, so according to this report above, the guy "promptly" gave the guitar back, when he was told by the stagehand, that it was "just a show" when asked by the stagehand to return the guitar. Yet at the end of the show, he still had the nerve to ask for the guitar, as though it belonged to him, which it never did.

After he was treated for his injuries, he was also offered tix to the following night's show (apparently for another artist performing the next night at that venue, since as we know, Prince did not have a scheduled show the following night at that same venue), only if he signed a release form promising not to sue, but Litchfield didn't sign one. According to the report, Litchfield does not have any "immediate" plans to sue. Doesn't mean he won't later down the road though.

I have to laugh at that last statement in the article where Litchfield states "I want my guitar back." I guess if Prince jumped off the stage and landed in this guy's arms, Litchfield would have thought he owned Prince too.

We'll just have to wait and see what happens if he does.

[Edited 2/26/11 16:33pm]

i think the offer was because the man got hurt somehow and Prince and management dont want to be held responsible even though a case can be made but his issue is with the getting the guitar back. Not about him getting hurt!

[Edited 2/26/11 17:22pm]

Yes, I agree, and it's strange that he didn't seem that concerned about getting injured when he grabbed the guitar and held on to it for dear life even when he fell, but instead more interested in claiming a guitar that never belonged to him.

[Edited 2/27/11 6:30am]

all this makes me wonder. Did prince get to keep Patti LaBelle's shoe?

2elijah said:

wonder505 said:

i think the offer was because the man got hurt somehow and Prince and management dont want to be held responsible even though a case can be made but his issue is with the getting the guitar back. Not about him getting hurt!

[Edited 2/26/11 17:22pm]

Yes, I agree, and it's strange that he didn't seem that concerned about getting injured when he grabbed the guitar and held on to it for dear life even when he fell, but instead more interested in claiming a guitar that never belonged to him.

[Edited 2/27/11 6:30am]

It's impossible that they offered him tickets to a different artist. Thursday's show was announced by then anyway and even had big banners all across the stadium saying "Third show added due to tremendous demand" or some crap.

The man got his ass beat, and could've been trampled over and killed.

All he received is a damn pic, and people here thinks he should've been greatful.

I would've told Prince to shove it up his ass!

On second thought I would've taken the pic but felt very dissapointed.

Prince can save himself from many lawsuits by giving up the guitar.

A fan would be greatful just having the guitar, despite havng a near death experience.

One guitar a show want bankrupt him. Most rock artists thrash their guitar after every show.

Spinlight said:

2elijah said:

Yes, I agree, and it's strange that he didn't seem that concerned about getting injured when he grabbed the guitar and held on to it for dear life even when he fell, but instead more interested in claiming a guitar that never belonged to him.

[Edited 2/27/11 6:30am]

It's impossible that they offered him tickets to a different artist. Thursday's show was announced by then anyway and even had big banners all across the stadium saying "Third show added due to tremendous demand" or some crap.

This incident happened on the 3rd show's night though, so the tix they offered him stated for "the next night," according to the article. Seems the writer made a mistake in his report, since there was no Prince concert the next night, on Friday, Feb., 25th, and there was a basket ball game scheduled at the arena the next night. Could be the writer meant to state Litchfield was offered a ticket to a future Prince concert.

[Edited 2/27/11 9:50am]

GET PAID MAN funk the tickets get that money!!! its just a drop in the bucket to prince,he wont miss 100 grand!!!

355mr2 said:

GET PAID MAN funk the tickets get that money!!! its just a drop in the bucket to prince,he wont miss 100 grand!!!

Money for the injuries? But dude stated in the video that he didn't care about the injuries, he just wants the "guitar".

[Edited 2/27/11 9:54am]

This is the type of shit that will make Prince want to stop playing for others....what a bunch of bs from and entitled idiot. I agree with the others, welcome 2 America says it best.

355mr2 said:

GET PAID MAN funk the tickets get that money!!! its just a drop in the bucket to prince,he wont miss 100 grand!!!

paid for what? over the condut of the other concert goers? That would largely fall to the venue. ANd he has NO case to make that he is owed a guitar. Even if he can make the case that Prince gave it to him, he admits he gave it to the tech. So at best Prince gave it away to him and then he gave it away to the tech. And he accepted the pic, which, some might call payment for the guitar and his injuries.

the man has no case and he will lose. I doubt ANY lawyer would take the case.

The guy will have to show that: by tossing him the guitar that there was intent to either abandon the guitar or transfer ownership. Handing someone something is not assumed to be a gift.

to his injuries: unless he sought medical attention he has no case there either.

2elijah said:

Spinlight said:

It's impossible that they offered him tickets to a different artist. Thursday's show was announced by then anyway and even had big banners all across the stadium saying "Third show added due to tremendous demand" or some crap.

This incident happened on the 3rd show's night though, so the tix they offered him stated for "the next night," according to the article. Seems the writer made a mistake in his report, since there was no Prince concert the next night, on Friday, Feb., 25th, and there was a basket ball game scheduled at the arena the next night. Could be the writer meant to state Litchfield was offered a ticket to a future Prince concert.

[Edited 2/27/11 9:50am]

Oooh, ok, I thought it happened on 2/23.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Handing someone something is not assumed to be a gift.

Amazing that someone could not understand this. If I hand the cashier a 20 for my $6 purchase, can the cashier logically infer that the rest of the twenty is a gift to them?

'Sides... you just know that if he actually got the guitar, it'd be up on eBay before you could say "Money Don't Matter 2night".