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Optimus2

Songs That U Dont/Didnt Fully Understand...

Since alot of Ps songs r cryptic or have meanings that arnt fully on the surface and r hidden....did any of U have a song u struggled 2 know the meaning of?...or still do?....and maybe sum of the older orgers will b kind enuff 2 help us younger purple hippes, by replyin 2 ur posts exp... I Would Die 4 U - the opening of this track is "Im Not A Woman, Im Not A Man"...well at first I thought he was admitting he was a transexual bisexual lol Until after more listens It became more clear it was about the holy trinity....

God

I'm not a woman
I'm not a man
I am something that you'll never understand

I'll never beat u
I'll never lie
And if you're evil I'll forgive u by and by

Jesus

I'm not your lover
I'm not your friend
I am something that you'll never comprehend

No need 2 worry
No need 2 cry
I'm your messiah and you're the reason why

The Holy Spirit

I'm not a human
I am a dove
I'm your conscious
I am love
All I really need is 2 know that
U believe

Well I Struggle 2 understand the meaning of Dolphin? and Hello?......any help? lol

Please Post If U Have Anything similar...im sure theres a kind spirited purple hippie out there that can help lol

[Edited 1/12/11 3:55am]

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Reply #1 posted 01/12/11 8:19am

muskiediver

Optimus2 said:

Since alot of Ps songs r cryptic or have meanings that arnt fully on the surface and r hidden....did any of U have a song u struggled 2 know the meaning of?...or still do?....and maybe sum of the older orgers will b kind enuff 2 help us younger purple hippes, by replyin 2 ur posts exp... I Would Die 4 U - the opening of this track is "Im Not A Woman, Im Not A Man"...well at first I thought he was admitting he was a transexual bisexual lol Until after more listens It became more clear it was about the holy trinity....

God

I'm not a woman
I'm not a man
I am something that you'll never understand

I'll never beat u
I'll never lie
And if you're evil I'll forgive u by and by

Jesus

I'm not your lover
I'm not your friend
I am something that you'll never comprehend

No need 2 worry
No need 2 cry
I'm your messiah and you're the reason why

The Holy Spirit

I'm not a human
I am a dove
I'm your conscious
I am love
All I really need is 2 know that
U believe

Well I Struggle 2 understand the meaning of Dolphin? and Hello?......any help? lol

Please Post If U Have Anything similar...im sure theres a kind spirited purple hippie out there that can help lol

[Edited 1/12/11 3:55am]

Hello was written around a time Prince's body guard pushed someone. Mags like National Enquier and other gossip mags were talking about his weir diets, his controling behaviors, and all kinds of weird things Prince did.

So Hello was a way for him to just say that. Hello.

"I'm not afraid, I eat what I want and I am happy thats for sure."

All responses to articles about him that appear at the time.

"You call them bodyguards but I call them my friends"

Then at the end he talks about cruel words.

Kind of like Billy Jack Bitch intended for CJ gossip columnist at the Star Tribune.

MJ did a song like hello called, "Leave me alone." I suppose all superstars at some point in their career write a song about the media that is attacking them or telling half truths or lies. Hello was Prince's first.

Now Dolphin, I would love to hear peoples thoughts on that. I mean Dolphins are intelligent. Maybe there is a metaphor about being under water, or drowning. The first part sounds as if he is struggling with writing a perfect song:

"How Beautiful to the words have to be, before the conquer every heart"

I think the next line is to his record company:

"How will I even knwo if I am in the right key, if you make me stop before I start."

"If I came back as a dolphin would you listen to me then"

What is a dolphin? A symbol or logo for something? Or is it a representation of being drowned or maybe it is the sounds a dolphin makes. It can only communicate with what sounds like music. Many Prince made this connection? I am sure there is a thread about this somewhere, but I have not seen it.

I would like to know what the hell "Theres others here with us is about." Sounds deep, but then again it could be something he just came up with on Halloween. But some of the lyrics are erie because later in his own life similar like events occured.

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Reply #2 posted 01/12/11 9:06am

purplemookiebu
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cloreen bacon skin whofarted now that's a kooky song

yoda i don't wear a cross?!!? i wear a prince symbol prince guitar wacky nutty I When Prince's cum dries, diamonds are formed. lol eek drooling no one tops prince in concert!
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Reply #3 posted 01/12/11 9:18am

DaphneLovesPR1
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Yeah alot of P songs kind of caught me. Sometimes the sound is so good that I really don't listen to the words, I'm too busy dancing. But then I have to specifically go back and listen to the songs. I Would Die 4 U got me too at first, not thinking anything weird, I just didn't get who he was talking to...IIWYG got me of course, so did Anna Stesia. Just last week, we were discussing the meaning of P control since a couple folks had totally different meanings for it.

Sometimes its just one line that throws you off and makes you scratch your head. When I was younger, Little Red Corvette had me lost. lol And I swear, I don't know why, but The Question of U and Joy in Repeition totally fooled with my mind, I was young though, didn't quite get "it."

Prince is GORGEOUS. I'm inspired. GOD is GREAT. Is there anything else to say? lol
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Reply #4 posted 01/12/11 9:22am

Optimus2

purplemookiebut said:

cloreen bacon skin whofarted now that's a kooky song

i like that track think its just Morris and P messin round...more about beat than lyrical content...is it ad-libbed?....sounds liek it is

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Reply #5 posted 01/12/11 9:23am

Optimus2

muskiediver said:

Optimus2 said:

Since alot of Ps songs r cryptic or have meanings that arnt fully on the surface and r hidden....did any of U have a song u struggled 2 know the meaning of?...or still do?....and maybe sum of the older orgers will b kind enuff 2 help us younger purple hippes, by replyin 2 ur posts exp... I Would Die 4 U - the opening of this track is "Im Not A Woman, Im Not A Man"...well at first I thought he was admitting he was a transexual bisexual lol Until after more listens It became more clear it was about the holy trinity....

God

I'm not a woman
I'm not a man
I am something that you'll never understand

I'll never beat u
I'll never lie
And if you're evil I'll forgive u by and by

Jesus

I'm not your lover
I'm not your friend
I am something that you'll never comprehend

No need 2 worry
No need 2 cry
I'm your messiah and you're the reason why

The Holy Spirit

I'm not a human
I am a dove
I'm your conscious
I am love
All I really need is 2 know that
U believe

Well I Struggle 2 understand the meaning of Dolphin? and Hello?......any help? lol

Please Post If U Have Anything similar...im sure theres a kind spirited purple hippie out there that can help lol

[Edited 1/12/11 3:55am]

Hello was written around a time Prince's body guard pushed someone. Mags like National Enquier and other gossip mags were talking about his weir diets, his controling behaviors, and all kinds of weird things Prince did.

So Hello was a way for him to just say that. Hello.

"I'm not afraid, I eat what I want and I am happy thats for sure."

All responses to articles about him that appear at the time.

"You call them bodyguards but I call them my friends"

Then at the end he talks about cruel words.

Kind of like Billy Jack Bitch intended for CJ gossip columnist at the Star Tribune.

MJ did a song like hello called, "Leave me alone." I suppose all superstars at some point in their career write a song about the media that is attacking them or telling half truths or lies. Hello was Prince's first.

Now Dolphin, I would love to hear peoples thoughts on that. I mean Dolphins are intelligent. Maybe there is a metaphor about being under water, or drowning. The first part sounds as if he is struggling with writing a perfect song:

"How Beautiful to the words have to be, before the conquer every heart"

I think the next line is to his record company:

"How will I even knwo if I am in the right key, if you make me stop before I start."

"If I came back as a dolphin would you listen to me then"

What is a dolphin? A symbol or logo for something? Or is it a representation of being drowned or maybe it is the sounds a dolphin makes. It can only communicate with what sounds like music. Many Prince made this connection? I am sure there is a thread about this somewhere, but I have not seen it.

I would like to know what the hell "Theres others here with us is about." Sounds deep, but then again it could be something he just came up with on Halloween. But some of the lyrics are erie because later in his own life similar like events occured.

what song is that?.......and thank u 4 the info on hello smile

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Reply #6 posted 01/12/11 9:54am

dyvrdown

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...starfish and coffee

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Reply #7 posted 01/12/11 9:57am

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pretty much none of them lol lol sometimes i think Princes songs just gives us a little taste of the kind of world he lives in wink

[Edited 1/13/11 13:43pm]

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Reply #8 posted 01/12/11 10:36am

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wat i always got from dolphn..at least the begnning is that someone told him ur in the wrong key or something and hes saying is i was a dolphin would u believe im right

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Reply #9 posted 01/12/11 10:38am

irreverence

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Optimus2 said:

Until after more listens It became more clear it was about the holy trinity....

God

I'm not a woman
I'm not a man
I am something that you'll never understand

I'll never beat u
I'll never lie
And if you're evil I'll forgive u by and by

Jesus

I'm not your lover
I'm not your friend
I am something that you'll never comprehend

No need 2 worry
No need 2 cry
I'm your messiah and you're the reason why

The Holy Spirit

I'm not a human
I am a dove
I'm your conscious
I am love
All I really need is 2 know that
U believe

I had not realised that. Thank you, that made me appreciate a song I never gave much credit to before.

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Reply #10 posted 01/12/11 10:56am

Nebula2020

Optimus2 said:

Since alot of Ps songs r cryptic or have meanings that arnt fully on the surface and r hidden....did any of U have a song u struggled 2 know the meaning of?...or still do?....and maybe sum of the older orgers will b kind enuff 2 help us younger purple hippes, by replyin 2 ur posts exp... I Would Die 4 U - the opening of this track is "Im Not A Woman, Im Not A Man"...well at first I thought he was admitting he was a transexual bisexual lol Until after more listens It became more clear it was about the holy trinity....

God

I'm not a woman
I'm not a man
I am something that you'll never understand

I'll never beat u
I'll never lie
And if you're evil I'll forgive u by and by

Jesus

I'm not your lover
I'm not your friend
I am something that you'll never comprehend

No need 2 worry
No need 2 cry
I'm your messiah and you're the reason why

The Holy Spirit

I'm not a human
I am a dove
I'm your conscious
I am love
All I really need is 2 know that
U believe

Wow, that makes sense. Always thought the bisexual thing aswell.

Thank you, only took nearly 30 years smile

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Reply #11 posted 01/12/11 10:58am

DJFreelan

Believe it or not, and don't make fun of me, but I think the only song I haven't figured out is "7." Please don't ask me why, I just don't get it.

"I never want to stop singing this song!" Prince in Montreal, 12/2/11, just before performing Purple Rain
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Reply #12 posted 01/12/11 2:43pm

Optimus2

irreverence said:

Optimus2 said:

Until after more listens It became more clear it was about the holy trinity....

God

I'm not a woman
I'm not a man
I am something that you'll never understand

I'll never beat u
I'll never lie
And if you're evil I'll forgive u by and by

Jesus

I'm not your lover
I'm not your friend
I am something that you'll never comprehend

No need 2 worry
No need 2 cry
I'm your messiah and you're the reason why

The Holy Spirit

I'm not a human
I am a dove
I'm your conscious
I am love
All I really need is 2 know that
U believe

I had not realised that. Thank you, that made me appreciate a song I never gave much credit to before.

no worrys...i appreciate it alot more also wink

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Reply #13 posted 01/12/11 2:43pm

Optimus2

Nebula2020 said:

Optimus2 said:

Since alot of Ps songs r cryptic or have meanings that arnt fully on the surface and r hidden....did any of U have a song u struggled 2 know the meaning of?...or still do?....and maybe sum of the older orgers will b kind enuff 2 help us younger purple hippes, by replyin 2 ur posts exp... I Would Die 4 U - the opening of this track is "Im Not A Woman, Im Not A Man"...well at first I thought he was admitting he was a transexual bisexual lol Until after more listens It became more clear it was about the holy trinity....

God

I'm not a woman
I'm not a man
I am something that you'll never understand

I'll never beat u
I'll never lie
And if you're evil I'll forgive u by and by

Jesus

I'm not your lover
I'm not your friend
I am something that you'll never comprehend

No need 2 worry
No need 2 cry
I'm your messiah and you're the reason why

The Holy Spirit

I'm not a human
I am a dove
I'm your conscious
I am love
All I really need is 2 know that
U believe

Wow, that makes sense. Always thought the bisexual thing aswell.

Thank you, only took nearly 30 years smile

lol

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Reply #14 posted 01/12/11 2:52pm

Dave1992

cinnamongrl said:

wat i always got from dolphn..at least the begnning is that someone told him ur in the wrong key or something and hes saying is i was a dolphin would u believe im right

Wow, I never looked at it that way.

"Eye expected that! But will continue to post through all the insults thrown at me, its like the rocks thrown at Jesus on the cross......." - KCOOLMUSIQ
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Reply #15 posted 01/12/11 2:53pm

Optimus2

cinnamongrl said:

wat i always got from dolphn..at least the begnning is that someone told him ur in the wrong key or something and hes saying is i was a dolphin would u believe im right

I Always thought it was from Prince 2 God "Will U Shine A Light And Try 2 Guide Me" thinking he will keep gettin reicarnated..... instead of bein allowed in2 heaven "Its Happened B4 I Knocked On Ur Door...But U Wouldnt Let Me In" because he thinks God disproves of his naughty lyric content (Erotic City, Head etc..) and he will have 2 stay on earth until his spirits pure...hence why it starts with "How Beautiful Do The Words Have 2 Be..."

Ofcourse it is only my opinion, funny how we look at things diffrently init?...makes alot of sense...2 me anyway lol...im most probaly wrong tho hence why i asked lol

[Edited 1/12/11 15:07pm]

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Reply #16 posted 01/12/11 2:57pm

Optimus2

DJFreelan said:

Believe it or not, and don't make fun of me, but I think the only song I haven't figured out is "7." Please don't ask me why, I just don't get it.

I thought 7 was the seven deadly sins confused

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Reply #17 posted 01/12/11 6:52pm

Silkilove

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Loved the Gingerbread Man performance, but don't have a clue what it's about. boxed

Emerald eyes? cherry buttons? Mary Ann and Ginger? What?? Only part I kind of get is the puddle (maybe).

-Silk
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Reply #18 posted 01/12/11 11:48pm

DaphneLovesPR1
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irreverence said:

Optimus2 said:

Until after more listens It became more clear it was about the holy trinity....

God

I'm not a woman
I'm not a man
I am something that you'll never understand

I'll never beat u
I'll never lie
And if you're evil I'll forgive u by and by

Jesus

I'm not your lover
I'm not your friend
I am something that you'll never comprehend

No need 2 worry
No need 2 cry
I'm your messiah and you're the reason why

The Holy Spirit

I'm not a human
I am a dove
I'm your conscious
I am love
All I really need is 2 know that
U believe

I had not realised that. Thank you, that made me appreciate a song I never gave much credit to before.

I mentioned this to my sis today while we were in the car and she hadn't realized that either. Kinda of brings tears to my eyes when I actually think about that you know. Makes it so much more of a powerful song. Great song to listen to on Easter!

Prince is GORGEOUS. I'm inspired. GOD is GREAT. Is there anything else to say? lol
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Reply #19 posted 01/12/11 11:49pm

DaphneLovesPR1
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DJFreelan said:

Believe it or not, and don't make fun of me, but I think the only song I haven't figured out is "7." Please don't ask me why, I just don't get it.

lol Totally mind-f*cking ain't it?!? Prince is a genius!

Prince is GORGEOUS. I'm inspired. GOD is GREAT. Is there anything else to say? lol
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Reply #20 posted 01/13/11 2:49am

Optimus2

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

irreverence said:

I had not realised that. Thank you, that made me appreciate a song I never gave much credit to before.

I mentioned this to my sis today while we were in the car and she hadn't realized that either. Kinda of brings tears to my eyes when I actually think about that you know. Makes it so much more of a powerful song. Great song to listen to on Easter!

Awww how sweet...yeah would be great 2 listen 2 on easter pray

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Reply #21 posted 01/13/11 3:06am

hhhhdmt

The question of u

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Reply #22 posted 01/13/11 5:15am

Optimus2

hhhhdmt said:

The question of u

intresting song tho isnt it?

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Reply #23 posted 01/13/11 6:03am

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Elephants and Flowers...starfish and coffee

Love God and I shall 4ever Love u
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Dophins represent resurrection, at least in Christian symbolism. Also keep in mind that this song was written around the time when he visited Puerto Rico with Mayte in 1993 and he probably saw some dolphins there who inspired him. The transition process of the namechange and later resurrection as prince were already a hot topic in some of his songs back then, see also the lyrics to Endorphinmachine ( reinventing yourself, the chance to come back and live again, etc., "every now and then there comes a time you must defend
your right to die and live again, live again, live again..." ).

I still don´t know what "Wedding Feast" and "Digital Garden" are about.

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"Jack U Off" was a questionable song to many of his own bandmates... they didn't use the term jack off to refer to messing with a woman... neither did prince.... hmmmm? Was he playing the queer card just for mystique?

I never understood these lyrics:

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Reply #26 posted 01/13/11 7:59am

hhhhdmt

Optimus2 said:

hhhhdmt said:

The question of u

intresting song tho isnt it?

very interesting. it has some fantastic guitar work and a blueesy kind of tune to it, very unique

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Reply #27 posted 01/13/11 8:15am

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Optimus2 said:


I would like to know what the hell "Theres others here with us is about." Sounds deep, but then again it could be something he just came up with on Halloween. But some of the lyrics are erie because later in his own life similar like events occured.

what song is that?.......and thank u 4 the info on hello smile

it is an outtake from Parade

http://princevault.com/index.php/Others_Here_With_Us

to me it is about how not matter what, no matter how dark things seem, we are never alone--that there are others with us. And that the others include those that have passed that we loved.

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Dolphin is about his battles with WB. You know, that ole chestnut.

First of all in the video he's wearing the "slave" written on his face, he was in that frame of mind at the time. I ran the lyrics through my Princespeak-English translator, and this is what it came up with:

How beautiful do the words have 2 be/Before they conquer every heart?
How will U know if I'm even in the right key/If U make me stop before I start?

How commercially successful do my songs have to be before you give me my due, and how will I achieve that if you don't let me release my usual one album per year?

If I came back as a dolphin Would U listen 2 me then?
Would U let me be your friend? Would U let me in?
U can cut off all my fins But 2 your ways I will not bend
I'll die before I let U tell me how 2 swim And I'll come back again as a dolphin

Would you, WB, treat me better if I was one of those acts that performed whatever you told me? Like a dolphin jumping through a hoop? No matter what, I won't follow your shitty business model, but I'll still be successful.

Why does my brother have 2 go hungry When U told him there was food 4 all?
This is the man that stands next 2 the man That stands 2 catch U when U fall

Why do the lesser or struggling artists on your label get treated badly, when you promised them they would be supported? These are the next generation of rock stars that will make your company money eventually, that is, if you give them the support they need.

If I'm under water, will U find me? Will U shine a light and try 2 guide me?
It's happened before, I've knocked on your door But U wouldn't let me in

I've asked you guys for help in promoting and making my material successful, time and time again, but after I signed that big contract, yall kinda made me feel like a red-headed stepchild.

Anything else?

Chas

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Reply #29 posted 01/13/11 8:25am

Chas

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muskiediver said:

Optimus2 said:

he was admitting he was a transexual bisexual lol Until after more listens It became more clear it was about the holy trinity....

Well I Struggle 2 understand the meaning of Dolphin? and Hello?......any help? lol

Hello was written around a time Prince's body guard pushed someone. Mags like National Enquier and other gossip mags were talking about his weir diets, his controling behaviors, and all kinds of weird things Prince did.

I would like to know what the hell "Theres others here with us is about." Sounds deep, but then again it could be something he just came up with on Halloween. But some of the lyrics are erie because later in his own life similar like events occured.

I agree, I think Hello is kinda self-explanatory if you were following his career at the time, like with the bodyguard and the tabloids, etc.

As for "There's others here with us," my theory is that he was playing around with some sounds and discovered some that sound like a horror movie, and then pulled out his notebook and wrote a song about it. Maybe just to give the band a laugh. Or maybe the song is about a bad dream he had, which would make a good segue into a song about dreams. Oh yeah it does segue into a song about "All My Dreams." <img src=" />

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