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Thread started 09/21/10 8:14pm

DarlingNikki10
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Could Prince have been a better rapper/singer than Drake?

I know Prince dabbled with Hip-Hop/Rap in the late eighties and early nineties with his band,

the NPG. Prince's song "Bob George" is kinda like Hip-Hop cause he is talking over a beat. I

don't think he was as bad as Tony M. and had he stuck with it could have been better than him.

Then I thought about the singer/rapper, Drake who is the hottest young artist out in the game

now. I don't really care for him because IMO he sounds too much like Lil Wayne, his mentor.

You think Prince could out sing/rap Drake? smile lol razz wink

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Reply #1 posted 09/21/10 8:48pm

ernestsewell

Okay bye now. wave

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Reply #2 posted 09/21/10 8:59pm

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This argument is invalid. You're forgetting about the Tony M. factor.

I still play pokemon. I play warcraft. And I'm awesome.
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Reply #3 posted 09/21/10 9:08pm

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Reply #4 posted 09/21/10 10:10pm

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Reply #5 posted 09/21/10 10:35pm

unique

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stephen hawkins could have been a better rapper than drake

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Reply #6 posted 09/22/10 2:30am

trickykid59

Prince doesn't like rap. He never really understood this music. He tried to deal with it when - i guess - he felt he had no choice, but it was terrible. Terrible hip hop gimmicks ruined many of his songs in the 90's.

He employed awful rappers like TC Ellis. Imagine how interesting it coul have been if he had worked with people like Q-tip, Redman, EPMD or RAkim !

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Reply #7 posted 09/22/10 3:20am

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Alright stick a fork in her. She's done. We officially grant you the title of "ultimate fam". biggrin
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Reply #8 posted 09/22/10 4:29am

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Reply #9 posted 09/22/10 4:46am

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trickykid59 said:

Prince doesn't like rap. He never really understood this music. He tried to deal with it when - i guess - he felt he had no choice, but it was terrible. Terrible hip hop gimmicks ruined many of his songs in the 90's.

He employed awful rappers like TC Ellis. Imagine how interesting it coul have been if he had worked with people like Q-tip, Redman, EPMD or RAkim !

Prince worked with Q-Tip on "Chocolate Box".

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Reply #10 posted 09/22/10 4:52am

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Shawnt27 said:

trickykid59 said:

Prince doesn't like rap. He never really understood this music. He tried to deal with it when - i guess - he felt he had no choice, but it was terrible. Terrible hip hop gimmicks ruined many of his songs in the 90's.

He employed awful rappers like TC Ellis. Imagine how interesting it coul have been if he had worked with people like Q-tip, Redman, EPMD or RAkim !

Prince worked with Q-Tip on "Chocolate Box".

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and eve and chuck d

and he does like rap. he likes notorious BIG, although he hasn't put out a decent album in ages

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Reply #11 posted 09/22/10 5:12am

purpledoveuk

Drake....never heard of him.


He sounds fowl to me ....gettit?....Drake - fowl!!!!

Still never heard of him though
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Reply #12 posted 09/22/10 5:16am

trickykid59

Prince worked with Q-Tip on "Chocolate Box".

It's true, forgot about it. It was quite disappinting to me... especially listening to the Q-Tip excellent last effort. I would have loved it he they worked together during the Tribe Called Quest era.

and he does like rap. he likes notorious BIG, although he hasn't put out a decent album in ages

In recent interview in swiss magazine Vibrations, he stated several times how much he hates rap. I think he likes some of it, but dosen't like it as a whole movement of non-musician making music and like many of us hate the gangsta imagery.

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Reply #13 posted 09/22/10 5:21am

trickykid59

By (P & Q-tip) working together, i didn't mean Q-tip adding vocal on a 100% prince produced track, i meant really intercating and building music together.

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Reply #14 posted 09/22/10 5:23am

purpledoveuk

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Prince worked with Q-Tip on "Chocolate Box".




It's true, forgot about it. It was quite disappinting to me... especially listening to the Q-Tip excellent last effort. I would have loved it he they worked together during the Tribe Called Quest era.





and he does like rap. he likes notorious BIG, although he hasn't put out a decent album in ages




In recent interview in swiss magazine Vibrations, he stated several times how much he hates rap. I think he likes some of it, but dosen't like it as a whole movement of non-musician making music and like many of us hate the gangsta imagery.




Slightly hypocritical coming from a man who often speaks or 'raps' his songs now ...and had a rap song called Gangster Glam (although a midget running around in a Hilda Ogden head scarf Speedos and braces isn't your traditional gangster look)
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Reply #15 posted 09/22/10 5:55am

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trickykid59 said:

Prince worked with Q-Tip on "Chocolate Box".

It's true, forgot about it. It was quite disappinting to me... especially listening to the Q-Tip excellent last effort. I would have loved it he they worked together during the Tribe Called Quest era.

and he does like rap. he likes notorious BIG, although he hasn't put out a decent album in ages

In recent interview in swiss magazine Vibrations, he stated several times how much he hates rap. I think he likes some of it, but dosen't like it as a whole movement of non-musician making music and like many of us hate the gangsta imagery.

we'll i've been in the studio with prince when he said he liked "biggie smalls", that was a few years ago. prince is known for saying one thing one minute and changing his mind the next

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Reply #16 posted 09/22/10 5:58am

trickykid59

I think he has a love/hate relation with rap. Which is understandable for a trained musician. What is disappointing is his choice of partners to explore this musical field.

You can talk over music and still do not like rap. The rapping/talk over routine is not exclusive to hip hop. Gil Scott Heron, Rudy Ray Moore, Isaac Hayes, The Last poets, James Brown used to "rap" long before hip hop birth.

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Reply #17 posted 09/22/10 6:02am

purpledoveuk

trickykid59 said:

I think he has a love/hate relation with rap. Which is understandable for a trained musician. What is disappointing is his choice of partners to explore this musical field.



You can talk over music and still do not like rap. The rapping/talk over routine is not exclusive to hip hop. Gil Scott Heron, Rudy Ray Moore, Isaac Hayes, The Last poets, James Brown used to "rap" long before hip hop birth.



Did they too adopted fake Jamaican lilts when doing it?
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Reply #18 posted 09/22/10 7:24am

trickykid59

I was just listening to Black MF in the house. It's funny how Prince raps better than Tony M on that song !

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Reply #19 posted 09/22/10 8:32am

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purpledoveuk said:

trickykid59 said:

In recent interview in swiss magazine Vibrations, he stated several times how much he hates rap. I think he likes some of it, but dosen't like it as a whole movement of non-musician making music and like many of us hate the gangsta imagery.

Slightly hypocritical coming from a man who often speaks or 'raps' his songs now ...and had a rap song called Gangster Glam (although a midget running around in a Hilda Ogden head scarf Speedos and braces isn't your traditional gangster look)

It has nothing to do with being hypocritical. He is not a real gangster and a lot of gangster rappers are former criminals bragging about their crimes. Loads of RnB artist dress up like gangsters and talk a lot of crap it is called being entertaining it is a lot different when you really have a criminal past and maybe still committing crimes.

Some of you need to ligthen up

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Reply #20 posted 09/22/10 8:34am

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DarlingNikki1025 said:

I know Prince dabbled with Hip-Hop/Rap in the late eighties and early nineties with his band,

the NPG. Prince's song "Bob George" is kinda like Hip-Hop cause he is talking over a beat. I

don't think he was as bad as Tony M. and had he stuck with it could have been better than him.

Then I thought about the singer/rapper, Drake who is the hottest young artist out in the game

now. I don't really care for him because IMO he sounds too much like Lil Wayne, his mentor.

You think Prince could out sing/rap Drake? smile lol razz wink

Prince can out sing Drake any day. In fact loads of other artist are better singers than this guy.

He can'not rap and he cannot sing a useless artist.

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Reply #21 posted 09/22/10 9:02am

trickykid59

He is not a real gangster

Obviously. How funny would it be if he played gangster ?

Oh, but let me see... didn't he play the pimp in the past ?

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Reply #22 posted 09/22/10 10:03am

Ace1

Alright honestly I think prince doesnt like how there isnt alot of musicianship in rap music, because it makes no sense for him to say he doesnt like rap but still rap in alot of his songs. But back to the original question: no Prince cannot rap better than drake. Prince in my opinion is a horrible rapper, and some of you may not like rap but to say Drake isnt a good rapper is ridiculous. He is a very good rapper, Prince would have no chance against him. On the other hand, I could never take Drake seriously as a singer, I wouldnt even call him a singer. I mean just because someone sings from time to time doesnt make them a singer plus his singing is borderline mediocre at its best.

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Reply #23 posted 09/22/10 10:21am

purpledoveuk

laurarichardson said:



purpledoveuk said:


trickykid59 said:


In recent interview in swiss magazine Vibrations, he stated several times how much he hates rap. I think he likes some of it, but dosen't like it as a whole movement of non-musician making music and like many of us hate the gangsta imagery.



Slightly hypocritical coming from a man who often speaks or 'raps' his songs now ...and had a rap song called Gangster Glam (although a midget running around in a Hilda Ogden head scarf Speedos and braces isn't your traditional gangster look)

It has nothing to do with being hypocritical. He is not a real gangster and a lot of gangster rappers are former criminals bragging about their crimes. Loads of RnB artist dress up like gangsters and talk a lot of crap it is called being entertaining it is a lot different when you really have a criminal past and maybe still committing crimes.



Some of you need to ligthen up




Pot - kettle - black
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Reply #24 posted 09/22/10 10:42am

Dolphinking23

THERE IS A VALID AND TRUE Prince/Drake connection though... Drake's uncle is none other than Larry Graham. LOL So, you never know.. they might work together one day.

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Reply #25 posted 09/22/10 10:46am

Graycap23

DarlingNikki1025 said:

I know Prince dabbled with Hip-Hop/Rap in the late eighties and early nineties with his band,

the NPG. Prince's song "Bob George" is kinda like Hip-Hop cause he is talking over a beat. I

don't think he was as bad as Tony M. and had he stuck with it could have been better than him.

Then I thought about the singer/rapper, Drake who is the hottest young artist out in the game

now. I don't really care for him because IMO he sounds too much like Lil Wayne, his mentor.

You think Prince could out sing/rap Drake? smile lol razz wink

eek

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Reply #26 posted 09/22/10 10:50am

Genesia

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Where's Ernest with his bait jpg? rolleyes

I mean if he did have sex he would break every rule Jehova's have regarding premarital sex so Prince is really just friends with them all anyway.
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Reply #27 posted 09/22/10 1:07pm

NONSENSE

easy.

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Reply #28 posted 09/22/10 11:34pm

ernestsewell

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Where's Ernest with his bait jpg? rolleyes

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Reply #29 posted 09/23/10 7:10am

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purpledoveuk said:

laurarichardson said:

It has nothing to do with being hypocritical. He is not a real gangster and a lot of gangster rappers are former criminals bragging about their crimes. Loads of RnB artist dress up like gangsters and talk a lot of crap it is called being entertaining it is a lot different when you really have a criminal past and maybe still committing crimes.

Some of you need to ligthen up

Pot - kettle - black

No this b.s. about the importance of rap as a musical genre ( or important to P's music )is a little over the top and silly.

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