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Thread started 08/22/10 10:33pm

brianr54

Did Prince rip off old Harold Arlen song?!?

I can't believe I am writing this right now. I was listening to Sirius radio tonight and I heard an old classic jazz/pop song by Lena Horne. The name of the song was "Today I Love Everybody" and it's lyrics sounded VERY similar to Prince's "Everybody Loves Me" on his latest 20Ten.

I got home and looked it up and it was made popular by Johnny Mercer in 1967, and was written by Harold Arlen. I looked for a long time to see what the actual lyrics are, but they are nowhere to be found....yet.

The lyrics were something like, "Today I love everybody....and after this, tonight, I hope you all love me."

If not word for word, its very similar to Prince's "Tonight, I love everybody/And everybody loves me."

I am sure that he'd not think it likely that many people would listen to him AND Lena Horne that much, and much less Johnny Mercer.

I will keep looking so I can compare the lyrics as they seemed way to similar in other places to be a coincidence.

Btw, "20Ten" blows.

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Reply #1 posted 08/23/10 12:38am

kenkamken

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This post is the equivalent of the turd in a paper bag on fire.
"So fierce U look 2night, the brightest star pales 2 Ur sex..."
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Reply #2 posted 08/23/10 12:40am

Spinlight

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brianr54 said:

Btw, "20Ten" blows.

lol

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Reply #3 posted 08/23/10 12:44am

Spinlight

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Today I love everybody

Everybody I see

I hope today is the day I do say

Everybody loves me

The melody is even similar, lol. Well, we knew he was a Lena Horne fan.

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Reply #4 posted 08/23/10 1:23am

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I just listened to the Lena Horne song:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...b7eWfZ9EpI

It is very similar. So much, in fact, that I think it could be a case of Prince paying homage to the original. It's not unlike how in the song "Get Yo Groove On" the first line is "Got some money cuz I just got paid." Obviously if you are into good soul music you would know that's also a line from a Sam Cooke song. So, if you are just discovering Lena Horne for the first time you might think it's a rip off. But, maybe Prince is just assuming the musical intelligence of the listener and that a fan of good old music would recognize his reference. Or, it could just be a rip off.

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Reply #5 posted 08/23/10 6:34am

brianr54

Thanks so much for finding that, you guys. For some reason I was stuck on just finding lyrics when I should have been looking for the song.

I just don't find it all that realistic that he was doing an homage as much as a nic. After all, according to the cover, EVERYTHING on it is created only by him.

I think there are only two worthy songs on this thing, and this is one of them, so that kind of makes it one and a half since this isn't really all his....

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Reply #6 posted 08/23/10 8:10am

ernestsewell

Yes. Prince ripped off Lena Horne.

Up next, Snoop Dogg buys socks at Bon Ton's.

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Reply #7 posted 08/23/10 12:21pm

QuasarOfRock

Lena didn't mind. Right here she trying to make Prince come:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...I8iWwsiefA

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Reply #8 posted 08/23/10 12:22pm

QuasarOfRock

He also ripped off her hairdo in about 1994.

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Reply #9 posted 08/23/10 12:42pm

NouveauDance

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brianr54 said:

Btw, "20Ten" blows.

falloff

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Reply #10 posted 08/23/10 12:45pm

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brianr54 said:

Btw, "20Ten" blows.

come again? eek

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Reply #11 posted 08/23/10 1:51pm

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I heard Santana's "Oye Como Va" the other day and realized the lead guitar line @ :57 is the same melody as the verses on "Sleep Around."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NsJ84YV1oA

He even emulated some of the heavy tom hits in the same song. Santana and Lena Horne are artists we know he's a fan of, so it makes sense he might use bits of their work here and there. I think it's his tribute to those who inspired him.

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Reply #12 posted 08/23/10 6:33pm

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renfield said:

I heard Santana's "Oye Como Va" the other day and realized the lead guitar line @ :57 is the same melody as the verses on "Sleep Around."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NsJ84YV1oA

He even emulated some of the heavy tom hits in the same song. Santana and Lena Horne are artists we know he's a fan of, so it makes sense he might use bits of their work here and there. I think it's his tribute to those who inspired him.

I can hardly believe than the Lena Horne thing is a coincidence, but i'm muuuuuuch more skeptical about the Santana thing.

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Reply #13 posted 08/23/10 7:44pm

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Given that Lena died on May 9 of this year, is it possible that Everybody Loves Me was a late addition to the album by way of a subtle tribute?

Granted, it probably required acknowledgement of such if so...

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Reply #14 posted 08/23/10 7:45pm

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brianr54 said:

I can't believe I am writing this right now. I was listening to Sirius radio tonight and I heard an old classic jazz/pop song by Lena Horne. The name of the song was "Today I Love Everybody" and it's lyrics sounded VERY similar to Prince's "Everybody Loves Me" on his latest 20Ten.

I got home and looked it up and it was made popular by Johnny Mercer in 1967, and was written by Harold Arlen. I looked for a long time to see what the actual lyrics are, but they are nowhere to be found....yet.

The lyrics were something like, "Today I love everybody....and after this, tonight, I hope you all love me."

If not word for word, its very similar to Prince's "Tonight, I love everybody/And everybody loves me."

I am sure that he'd not think it likely that many people would listen to him AND Lena Horne that much, and much less Johnny Mercer.

I will keep looking so I can compare the lyrics as they seemed way to similar in other places to be a coincidence.

Btw, "20Ten" blows.

Agreed..

[Edited 8/23/10 19:50pm]

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Reply #15 posted 08/23/10 8:27pm

CerpinTaxt

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To quote the great Donald Fagen:

"Like you heard an Arlen tune
Or you bought yourself a crazy hat
Like you had a Mango Cooler
Ooh - Morph the Cat"

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