Venom for the Rainbow children

I have tried hard, very hard and so hard to like this album, but I can't, there is just so much filler and stupid Jehovah Witness messages. I can only listen to four songs on the album (They are 1+1+1=3, She loves me for me, Last December and The Sensual everafter, and I love their beats and musicality rather than their sentiment), and I must wonder, what was floating through Princes head when he wrote this turd fest.
What I hate about the Rainbow Children
1. He plays the slowed down voice of God (Most songs)
2. Extremist born again Christian sentiments
3. Anti - Semitism (Family Name)
4. Sexism (Muse to the Pharoah)
5. Stupid ass artwork on the sleeve
6. The fact is drags on for fourteen songs
7. The fact it proves how much of a narrow minded superstitious plonker he had come since his days of sexual liberation and dilettantism.
8. The fact he wa sinfluenced, by washed up born again Larry Graham (He makes Tony M look like Sheila E in comparison)

Now I know I am going to get some hate here, but save it for another thread, u don't agree, I respect that, but save your venom for somewhere else, otherwise if you can't stand the Rainbow Children either tell us about it. ( I am waiting for you Ernest and Imago)

i love it. start to finish. ok, there are a few moment when you
hear him state stuff and you go "wtf?" but i take the whole album
as a parabel. musically it's one of his best albums ever and for
the most part, i don't mind the lyrics.

Huggiebear said:

purpledoveuk said:

1+1+1=3 has that "theocratic order" nonsense, too.

xenon said:

purpledoveuk said:

It could of course be partly psychological - when I first heard ut through NPGMC it was all one long track, NPGMC were screwing me over and I was living with my Wifes grandparents whilst our first house was sorted...bot the most positivity inducing scenarios.

How so?

purpledoveuk said:

xenon said:

How so?

I never recieved the Rave CD,

Prince promised a number of World Tours during the NPGMC years and only one happened...went to get my priority tickets and there was no record of my membership, tickets sell out and my membership is back up.

A number or perks (C-Note etc) were emailed out to members, I never got them....yet curiously they had no problem sending me emails about buying things or new memberships.

On top of that there were if course the shortcomings that everybody experience....Horny Pont without swearing, Thieves in the Temple etc all being classed as NEW tracks

Yeah sorry - I was just saying how they messed me about in general.

purpledoveuk said:

squirrelgrease said:

Nah it's defineyely "order" he wasted 5 minutes of the crowds life talking about it at gigs around that time.

Just another little bit of nonsence to make himself look smart and us ignorant.

Yeah baby Im talking about the Crangomantralistic Custard....you've never heard of it,

always makes me laugh when he says stuff like " who's digging the theocratic order tonight" and thousands whoop and holler like they have the first fucking clue.

Same with purple rain.."put your hands up if you know what I'm singing about tonight". Thousands of sweaty hands waving in the air...all attached to the arm of somebody asking the person next to them what the song is about
[Edited 10/20/09 3:33am]

IstenSzek said:

purpledoveuk said:

I agree with the original poster, there are some cool grooves and melodies at times but way too much ignorant dogma to go along for the ride with. Rainbow Children also signifies the beginning of his Vegas-lite jazz-funk sound thats still going strong. Not a positive shift IMO.

But which is better, Slavery or Holocaust; there's only one way to find out.....


FIGHT!!!!!

purpledoveuk said:

But which is better, Slavery or Holocaust; there's only one way to find out.....


FIGHT!!!!!

purpledoveuk said:

IstenSzek said:

It was in part due to TRC that I actually fell in love with Princes music again. From about 96 onwards I had started to get a bit bored with Prince, I was still buying all the music and going to the shows but it just wasn't doing it for me the way it had in the past.

There were parts of Rave that I enjoyed but when NPGMC launched and we started getting the Ahdio shows and High/Chocolate Invasion/Slaughterhouse tracks I really started to enjoy being a P fan again. And then later that year I heard TRC for the first time and it blew me away, I fell in love with it on the first listen. I really couldn't give a shit what the album was about lyrically (we all know that Prince talks bollox!), it was the music that did it for me.

IstenSzek said:

1. He plays the slowed down voice of God (Most songs)
2. Extremist born again Christian sentiments

I don't think Jehovah's Witness fall in the same category as born again Christians
3. Anti - Semitism (Family Name)

4. Sexism (Muse to the Pharoah)
Sexism? that ain't nothing new for Prince music
5. Stupid ass artwork on the sleeve

I love the artwork, something between ATWIAD and theRC artwork would have been even more 'Prince' like, and I loved his dark broading image in the middle
6. The fact is drags on for fourteen songs

I love the Rainbow Children(song) groove
Everywhere is my favorite
Digital Garden gives me some good guitar work

Venom Damn! that's hard

I love The Rainbow Children easily in my top 5 Prince albums.

Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!

KrystleEyes 22/03/05

except for the weird 'feast / marridge' bit, reminisent of some awful musical - i really like TRC. love the family name. couldn't care less with what it is about.
[Edited 10/20/09 11:36am]

Dave1992 said:

Great album

Well I could've quite happily kept my vitriol to myself, but as you've asked us to share, how can I not?

I loathe this album.

When people say that, musically, he explores new areas I really haven't a clue what they're talking about. I don't hear it. All I hear is that laid back jazzy funky tripe that he can wallop out any old time, and it's fine when he does some jazzy noodling live (or without the ghastly lyrics), but 74 minutes of it, clinically digitised and devoid of life, is more than I can take.

I like challenging music - even if it turns out not to be to my taste - if it's well constructed then there is value to listening to it. And therein lies the problem with TRC for me - although it's a challenge for me to listen to, whenever I try I get the distinct impression that it was far from a challenge for Prince to make, that musically he stays well within his comfort zone, and basically just tossed it out. Well, if he's going to make me sweat listening to it, he damn well better've put some sweat into making it, and I don't think he did. Maybe that's a little unfair, given that Prince's comfort zone is fairly expansive, but musically, I just find it boring. Too boring to listen to.

The one song on it that I would like to be able to listen to more often is Family Name, because the guitar work is good, but I rarely get to the good bit, all that akashic butt-cheek clenching crapology gets to me and I end up switching it off (usually about the 7 second mark). I have no interest in religion, so over the years I've developed a sort of filter where I can gloss over the god bothering, but it doesn't work with this. Pity really, because musically it's the high point of the album. If, lyrically, he had some message that he felt important to deliver, wouldn't it have been better served being delivered with some memorable music?

But the real problem for me is the lyrics - pretty much all of them. The music needs to be a damn sight better than that to allow my god bothering filter to kick in, and even then it's impossible to ignore the constant Jehovocoder.

If there was an instrumental version, with every last word of those irritating, cringe worthy, shameful, juvenile, insulting, crass lyrics removed (and the bloody annoying Darth Jehovader voice of course), I'd give it a spin occasionally. It would make perfectly serviceable background music.

When people say it's his ultimate concept album I guess I can agree with that - but that's really not saying much - the competition for that accolade amongst his previous (or subsequent) work is non-existent, he simply can't do 'concept', and I wish he wouldn't try.

On this album more than any other, Prince really is a cloth brained whiner. *

Ain't no room to disagree? I think you'll find there damn well is.

* You will of course have spotted that "cloth brained whiner" is an anagram of "the rainbow children". This footnote is therefore irrelevant, much like TRC.

Oook! EMC Funk Radio Celibate, Mushroom, Canopy, Arse Gravy.

The Rainbow Children is one of my favorites.