Did 'Small Club' kickstart the whole Prince bootleg industry?

I heard Small Club for the first time in early 89. It was the first live bootleg I'd heard and I was hooked from the first listen. Amazing performance, setlist, sound quality. I've probably listened to this as much as any official CD. I think it must have piqued a lot of curiosity in his live performances and aftershows in particular. It certainly did me .

So were there a lot of live bootlegs available before this great set? Did it whet your appetite for more?

Opinions?


[Edited 9/16/09 12:56pm]

another guy who lived in minneapolis had a bootleg called the great white wonder about 30 years before small club, and even prince wise you had the black album, charade, chocolate box, and a bunch of live bootlegs before small club

there were tons of bootlegs about in the 70s for the stones, floyd, grateful dead, led zep, etc

Sorry I was referring just to Prince bootlegs and have amended the title of the thread. I'm well aware that Dylan, The Beatles, Grateful Dead, Led ep etc etc were bootlegged back in the day.

Carry on....

unique said:

soulyacolia said:

unique said:

another guy who lived in minneapolis had a bootleg called the great white wonder about 30 years before small club, and even prince wise you had the black album, charade, chocolate box, and a bunch of live bootlegs before small club

there were tons of bootlegs about in the 70s for the stones, floyd, grateful dead, led zep, etc

I'm interested as to what came out before Small Club it's partly why I started the thread. There were some titles I saw back in the day 'Regent of First Avenue' I think was one with the First Avenue warm up gig for the SOTT tour IIRC? I know Charade and Black Album predate Small Club I was kinda thinking of live stuff.

soulyacolia said:

I heard Small Club for the first time in early 89. It was the first live bootleg I'd heard and I was hooked from the first listen. Amazing performance, setlist, sound quality. I've probably listened to this as much as any official CD. I think it must have piqued a lot of curiosity in his live performances and aftershows in particular. It certainly did me .

So were there a lot of live bootlegs available before this great set? Did it whet your appetite for more?

Opinions?


[Edited 9/16/09 12:56pm]

soulyacolia said:

unique said:

another guy who lived in minneapolis had a bootleg called the great white wonder about 30 years before small club, and even prince wise you had the black album, charade, chocolate box, and a bunch of live bootlegs before small club

there were tons of bootlegs about in the 70s for the stones, floyd, grateful dead, led zep, etc

I'm interested as to what came out before Small Club it's partly why I started the thread. There were some titles I saw back in the day 'Regent of First Avenue' I think was one with the First Avenue warm up gig for the SOTT tour IIRC? I know Charade and Black Album predate Small Club I was kinda thinking of live stuff.

Thankyou djThunderfunk!!

X Records was indeed the first release. What I had back in the day was a tape of that release I didn't pick up an actual CD until about 93 (when I started collecting bootleg CDs in earnest).

Listening to Small Club right now

a few other early ones were

royal jewels - 3LP of outtakes
sex machine - new morning club paris 87
vienna 4u
noon rendezvouz

all vinyl

and there was the cd of the jewel box, and a second volume that was more widespread, and rudeboy

there were a few early cd boots that were mostly crap, but crucial and small club were two early great boots on cd

I think I still have 'Sex Machine' pink cover with white polka dots?

DMSR playing now

The first boot with a proper cover was the megamix "From 1999 till now" in 1985. This was followed by a spat of DJ mixes without covers, such as the fatbag remixes.

Live tapes were obviously doing the rounds, but the he first live LP I remember was the lovely Rotterdam 86 double album ("Stop fighting!"), in Oct 86, followed a couple of weeks later by the Wembley double album. I think it was the The Atlanta 85 show next, but my memory is not what it was!

I think the first "great" was the Regent Of First Avenue.

unique said:

unique said:

Dont forget that one that had only sounds of Rerun eating chips

I had the Parade Tour boot on vinyl and the Sign O' the Times tour on vinyl long before Small Club. Back then also the bootlegs for Prince were more about unreleased material as opposed to live performances. It's the opposite of that today.

jonylawson

What are the Lyrics to New Morning?

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unique said:

jonylawson said:

Was It My Face was so cool.

djThunderfunk said:

soulyacolia said:

I heard Small Club for the first time in early 89. It was the first live bootleg I'd heard and I was hooked from the first listen. Amazing performance, setlist, sound quality. I've probably listened to this as much as any official CD. I think it must have piqued a lot of curiosity in his live performances and aftershows in particular. It certainly did me .

So were there a lot of live bootlegs available before this great set? Did it whet your appetite for more?

Opinions?


[Edited 9/16/09 12:56pm]

It was the Black Album which ignited my knowledge of and interest in bootlegs, I read about the cancellation, the bootlegging and even reviews of the bootleg in everything from Rolling Stone to my local newspaper. In my search for a copy I became aware of the Prince bootleg market and quickly began collecting. Small Club was among my first 1/2 dozen or so "discoveries" and immediately became the standard by which all other live recordings were judged. The combination of being an intimate aftershow, the incredible setlist with great covers and new unheard tracks, and the terrific audio quality all came together to make this the one to beat...
To more specifically answer you question, several of the boots I got before Small Club were live, so the curiosity and excitement for live boots already existed, this one simply surpassed all others in nearly every way making it much more difficult for a time to enjoy the noisy audience recordings that were the norm.
Now, not to hijack the thread, this is related: I'm curious as to other's memory of which of the many boots with this show came first. The first one I had and the first one I ever saw was the 3LP by Martens Records, and the first CD copy I saw, and bought, was a 2CD by X Rekords, both listed as being made in France. I've seen and heard many, many other releases over the years and still consider these the best. IMO, even better than more recent "remaster" versions... Other memories and/or opinions?

Small Club was my first boot, and it definitely sparked my interest in Prince bootleg material. From there, I have purchased every live performance that I could get my hands on. I think that some of the early Dirty Mind/Controversy live performances were good as far as sound quality, but Small Club was just an amazing bootleg. I was drawn to this performance after hearing it. Prince sounded so upbeat and animated during this performance.

"A united state of mind will never be divided
The real definition of unity is 1
People can slam their door, disagree and fight it
But how U gonna love the Father but not love the Son?
United States of Division"

djThunderfunk said:

soulyacolia said:

I heard Small Club for the first time in early 89. It was the first live bootleg I'd heard and I was hooked from the first listen. Amazing performance, setlist, sound quality. I've probably listened to this as much as any official CD. I think it must have piqued a lot of curiosity in his live performances and aftershows in particular. It certainly did me .

So were there a lot of live bootlegs available before this great set? Did it whet your appetite for more?

Opinions?


[Edited 9/16/09 12:56pm]

It was the Black Album which ignited my knowledge of and interest in bootlegs, I read about the cancellation, the bootlegging and even reviews of the bootleg in everything from Rolling Stone to my local newspaper. In my search for a copy I became aware of the Prince bootleg market and quickly began collecting. Small Club was among my first 1/2 dozen or so "discoveries" and immediately became the standard by which all other live recordings were judged. The combination of being an intimate aftershow, the incredible setlist with great covers and new unheard tracks, and the terrific audio quality all came together to make this the one to beat...
To more specifically answer you question, several of the boots I got before Small Club were live, so the curiosity and excitement for live boots already existed, this one simply surpassed all others in nearly every way making it much more difficult for a time to enjoy the noisy audience recordings that were the norm.
Now, not to hijack the thread, this is related: I'm curious as to other's memory of which of the many boots with this show came first. The first one I had and the first one I ever saw was the 3LP by Martens Records, and the first CD copy I saw, and bought, was a 2CD by X Rekords, both listed as being made in France. I've seen and heard many, many other releases over the years and still consider these the best. IMO, even better than more recent "remaster" versions... Other memories and/or opinions?

OMG, I forgot about this one. I too got the Black Album on tape in 1986 from this guy named Gregory for $20 at the old Tower Records on Sunset here in LA. I was couldn't believe this album...so different from the Prince music that was out...

"A united state of mind will never be divided
The real definition of unity is 1
People can slam their door, disagree and fight it
But how U gonna love the Father but not love the Son?
United States of Division"

I have Small Club on LP. That's how old it is.

"Guitar" on Leno is the greatest performance in the history of rock ' roll

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It sure is nice having adults running our government now

ok just to begin

crystal ball

track listing

crystal ball
miles ahead
power fantastic
heartbreaker
witness(yet another one)
movie star
a place in heaven
wonderful ass
funk we can
witness (not again)
funk we can 2

Posessed

Turn it up (1)
Turn it up (2)
Let me fill U up
High fashion
Mutiny
Irresistible bitch
Posessed
A better place to die
Susannah’s pajamas
Yes


The jewel box ( outtakes 1980 – 1991)

Disc 1
Lisa
Vibrator
A better place to die
U call me
Extra loveable
Purple music
Possessed
Do yourself a favour
Chocolate
Electric intercourse
The dance electric
All day all night
G spot
Manic Monday

Disc2

Old friends for sale
In all my dreams
Baby you’re a trip
If U break my heart 1 more time
Expert lover
Crystal ball
There’s others with us
Data bank
Moviestar
She wants a place in heaven
Girl O my dreams
We can funk
Neon telephone
Power fantastic
Can I play with U
Wonderful ass
Sexual suicide
Eternity

Disc 3
Crucial
Rebirth of the flesh
If I love U 2 nite
Witness
Cross the line
Alphabet st blues
Welcome to the rat race
Cookie jar
Murph drag
Good man
Your love is so hard
The grand progression
Schoolyard
Glam slam 91
The flow

I know some of the names of the songs are incorrect like welcome to the ratrace, any others? I have copied all titles off the cd's so the spelling mistakes are not mine

jonylawson said:

Marrk said:

jonylawson said:

HAHA i have all of them on tape

vienna was utterly shit quality.....

new morning is STILL my fave ever bootleg!

"So, teach me some French"

I love that boot too. I wonder if anyone ever tried to remaster it. Not that it matters, it has it's charm as it is.

New morning was my 1st boot....it was out waaaay before small club.

There were also a couple more like the black album and possiby even wonderboy or something similar from the SOTT tour

But new morning kicked it all off for me!

thedude said:

"Guitar" on Leno is the greatest performance in the history of rock ' roll

Second Funkiest White Man in America

It sure is nice having adults running our government now

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