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Reply #180 posted 08/02/09 9:26pm

yael

If prince ever left the JW, i hope that he will still read the bible and be around people who believe in God and are the sons and daughters of the torah. I am a messianic believer and i believe that even if he is still a JW, he will still study the bible to find the truth of God and yeshua (Jesus) the messiah. Because when it comes down to religion itself it is not about the legalism or traditions of religion it is the relationship with God and that matters above everything else.
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Reply #181 posted 08/02/09 9:39pm

jstar69

Oh dear God!!!! Who gives a flying F*ck

He can believe in whatever he wants to believe in - as long as he doesnt ram it down everyones throats
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Reply #182 posted 08/02/09 10:10pm

vivelafrance

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eireboy34 said:

vivelafrance said:



you seem to know many french people, don't you?

falloff


Vive , I've been livin' here for 18 years!!!

Believe I know the frogs!!!!!

Je te donne conseille, ma "petite francaise"; arretes de donner des leçons aux autres!!!!! Amicalement


Let's translate what you wrote to me for those who don't understand French :

"I give you an advice, my little french girl, stop giving lessons to the others!!!
friendly"


What do you mean? Is it a threat?

Fortunately the "frogs" as you name French people, are not as intolerant as you seem to be!

You've been living here for years....perhaps not at the right place, sorry for your bad experience. I wonder why my neighbours are all english people? They must be crazy...or masochist biggrin biggrin biggrin
People say I'm wearing heels because I'm short. I wear heels because the women like 'em.
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Reply #183 posted 08/03/09 3:41am

milleniumrain

He could be a Buddhist for me to be frank i don't give a crap. i think J.W is a bit over the top. BUT!!!!! everyone is entitled to there OWN religious belief. Mine is music. and the rest is just B.S anyway.....
Just as long as he produces a good jam i don't care who he prays 2.
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Reply #184 posted 08/03/09 6:44am

eireboy34

vivelafrance said:

eireboy34 said:



Vive , I've been livin' here for 18 years!!!

Believe I know the frogs!!!!!

Je te donne conseille, ma "petite francaise"; arretes de donner des leçons aux autres!!!!! Amicalement


Let's translate what you wrote to me for those who don't understand French :

"I give you an advice, my little french girl, stop giving lessons to the others!!!
friendly"


What do you mean? Is it a threat?

Fortunately the "frogs" as you name French people, are not as intolerant as you seem to be!

You've been living here for years....perhaps not at the right place, sorry for your bad experience. I wonder why my neighbours are all english people? They must be crazy...or masochist biggrin biggrin biggrin



Yes I'm going to curse you with BO problems and garlicky breath!!!

Whoops!! You lot already have that!!!! lol lol lol
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Reply #185 posted 08/03/09 6:55am

IAintTheOne

again the word for today is "JOB" ya'll need to get out of your mother's house and quit worrying about someone who don't give a hairy nutsack about you or anyone.

Understand something ya'll act like Prince owes you something and you have the right to delve into the brothers' personal shit. quick answer you don't. mind your business move forward and be done simple.
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Reply #186 posted 08/03/09 7:14am

vivelafrance

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@eireboy34

OMG blahblah

How old can you indeed be to write such bullshit?

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Reply #187 posted 08/03/09 11:39am

dollwoman

Oh well, I started this thread because Jehovah's Witnesses themselves remarked on how some religions were lowering their standards for members that didn't want to follow the bible.


The article I printed out said that very thing.


It asked basically " does your religion allow people who do things that are preached against in the Bible to remain a member?"

The point that I was making is that the JW's are very strict with what their members can and can not do and aren't afraid to disfellowship members who stray. All EXEPT for one member; PRINCE.

Also I have noticed that people will take a lower paying job just to make sure that they have more time to witness. They are very descreet when asking for money. They come across as the LEAST money hungrey religion that I know of.

SO, the arguement that Prince gives so much money to their headquarters, Bethal, doesn't make sense to me.

All I can think of is that the CA Jehovah Witness Congregations that Prince attends do not see the huge disconnect between JW teachings on sex, dating, money etc and the lyrics of Prince's last CD.


I can assure you that most JW would not feel comfortable listening to Lotusflow3r because of the content. Am I the only one who thinks that it's strange that the most famous JW musician releases a CD that most JW's find offensive????
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Reply #188 posted 08/03/09 11:54am

DesireeNevermi
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No matter his faith, he will still do what he wants, when he wants and with whomever and how many.
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Reply #189 posted 08/05/09 10:02am

Riera

WHO CARES????

The man's a MUSICIAN, not a saint. Let him do what he wants!
Just smoke my cigarette and hush
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Reply #190 posted 08/05/09 3:38pm

luv4u

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I don't care what religion Prince practices.

I'm all for the music cool
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Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture!
REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince
"I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben
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Reply #191 posted 08/11/09 12:41pm

dollwoman

luv4u said:

I don't care what religion Prince practices.

I'm all for the music cool



I hear you. The man is arguably the best musician of the 20th century and in the year 2099 I would not doubt that people say he is arguably the best contemporary musician of the 21st century too. If he wasn't so over the top fabulous it would be much easier to let his CD's go.
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Reply #192 posted 08/11/09 12:55pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

No matter his faith, he will still do what he wants, when he wants and with whomever and how many.

.
...helping men 2 grow and 2 modify their character structure it demonstrates in a new field how radiant and zestful L-I-F-E can become and how truly MIRACULOUS r the resources of God for human salvation...
..mzsexybaby sexy
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #193 posted 08/11/09 12:58pm

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...religion has always emphasized unity...
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..not only unity of God but the unity of man WITHIN himself..
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...4 each man is created in the image of God...and God is ONE....then it follows that if man allows himself 2 bcome a split-soul...an inovardly warring personality...he actually denies his Divine image...
..mzsexybaby sexy
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #194 posted 08/11/09 1:02pm

mzkqueen03

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...nor r men unique in the spiritual hungar which unites them even more than does physical hungar:...
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..the hungar 4 L-O-V-E..
...recognition..
..understanding..
...security..
..belongingness..
...and a satisfying communion with the wider horizon of the universe..
..that POWER...greater than man...God..
...mzsexybaby sexy
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #195 posted 08/11/09 1:40pm

mel2006

God HIMSELF says not to add to or take away from HIS word. The Jehovah's Witnesses have their own "bible" right based only on HALF of the HOLY BIBLE-KING JAMES version. HE (God) says that when we take away or add we are rendering HIS word a lie. Therefore, The Jehovah's Witnesses are liars plain and simple.
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Reply #196 posted 08/11/09 1:53pm

EmethEverywher
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mel2006 said:

God HIMSELF says not to add to or take away from HIS word. The Jehovah's Witnesses have their own "bible" right based only on HALF of the HOLY BIBLE-KING JAMES version. HE (God) says that when we take away or add we are rendering HIS word a lie. Therefore, The Jehovah's Witnesses are liars plain and simple.



do some research before you start uttering something you dont know anything about.
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Reply #197 posted 08/11/09 2:26pm

dollwoman

mel2006 said:

God HIMSELF says not to add to or take away from HIS word. The Jehovah's Witnesses have their own "bible" right based only on HALF of the HOLY BIBLE-KING JAMES version. HE (God) says that when we take away or add we are rendering HIS word a lie. Therefore, The Jehovah's Witnesses are liars plain and simple.


My understanding is that the JW's went back to the Greek and Hebrew translations and got a different understanding on SOME scriptures. I have a Catholic Bible, a King James Bible and the JW's and I don't find them conflicting on most issues. The first few times I studied with a JW she had me use my King James version to show me that her beliefs were also in my bible aswell.
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Reply #198 posted 08/11/09 8:39pm

mzkqueen03

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...when religion was born...man was just emerging from barbarian infancy...the primary needs were the ACQUISITION of the high ideals of...
..monogamy..
...family..
..fidelity..
...brotherly compassion..
..and social righteousness...
...in a world still INCAPABLE of DISTINGUISHING CLEARLY between right and wrong..
..mzsexybaby sexy
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #199 posted 08/11/09 8:41pm

mzkqueen03

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...b4 undertaking the tremendous task of prevading the whole of human L-I-F-E...religion had 2 gain a firm beachhead on the shores of man's unregenerate soul..
..mzsexybaby sexy
[Edited 8/11/09 20:42pm]
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #200 posted 08/11/09 8:45pm

mzkqueen03

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...4 it is a great human TRUTH that when we unlock our hearts heart 2 any sympathetic listener...our burdens often TAKE WINGS....AND in the process we make a remarkable discovery...
..mzsexybaby sexy
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #201 posted 08/11/09 8:47pm

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mzkqueen03 said:

...4 it is a great human TRUTH that when we unlock our hearts heart 2 any sympathetic listener...our burdens often TAKE WINGS....AND in the process we make a remarkable discovery...
..mzsexybaby sexy


can't...
take...
anymore...
ellipses...

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"What kind of fuck ending is that?"
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Reply #202 posted 08/11/09 8:50pm

mzkqueen03

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...religion...
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..able 2 understand far more subtly and profoundly why men hate rather than L-O-V-E...why men grow afraid..surrender 2 morbidity...and turn in bitterness against the POWER greater than man..
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..my words r NOT directed 2 those blessed souls that r quietly content in the arms of some traditional religion...nor r they intended 4 mystics who have found their own private way of serenity...
...mzsexybaby sexy
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #203 posted 08/11/09 8:55pm

mzkqueen03

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...what JEHOVAH WITNESS MEANS 2 ME..
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...my basic human wants..
-good health..
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-a safe environment..
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-the opportunity 2 learn AND grow..
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-MEANINGFUL WORK..
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-time with R-E-A-L friends and family..
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-a sense of belonging
...mzsexybaby sexy
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #204 posted 08/11/09 9:28pm

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mel2006 said:

God HIMSELF says not to add to or take away from HIS word. The Jehovah's Witnesses have their own "bible" right based only on HALF of the HOLY BIBLE-KING JAMES version. HE (God) says that when we take away or add we are rendering HIS word a lie. Therefore, The Jehovah's Witnesses are liars plain and simple.


Wow a religion with its own sacred text. How shocking neutral
"What kind of fuck ending is that?"
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Reply #205 posted 08/12/09 1:14pm

TheSmartView

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OK, I understand why he became a Witness in the first place. There was the tragic death of his much wanted son, the death of his father had already accured and some say his mother's dying wish was that he become a witness. Enter a man determined to convert him named Larry Graham and there you go.

My problem is that although his TRC CD was very pro JW's that was seven years ago and the stuff he released on Lotusflow3r is a far cry from witness beliefs. Given that it's obvious that that religion is a poor fit for him and goes against everything that he most cherishes, why is he still with them.

Examples;

JW's on using the word Hallelujah.
"Hallelujah!" That exclamation is commonly heard in Christendom's churches. Some people punctuare daily conversation with the expression. Few however, know its sacred meaning, and the lifestyle of many who use it dishonors God. "Hallelujah," explains one Bible dictionary, is a "word used by the writers of various psalms to join them in praising Jehovah." In fact a number of Bible schoflars point out that "Hallelujah" means "Praise ye Ja, [that is ] Jehovah."

Prince's view on the use of Hallelujah;

Well just listen to the song "Dance for Me". Seems combining the word with the words "makes me hot" is not a problem for P. I doubt that this is a song even an LA congregation would sing along to. Then this song also brings up the Bible scripture that JW's like to quote alot. "Everyone thatkeeps on looking at a woman so as to have passion for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart" Mathew 5;28.

Seems P aint too worried about what's going on in his heart.

Then there is the whole area of fornication. Another quote.
"Some youths have engaged in oral or anal sex or mutual masturbation, rationalizing that these acts are not so bad because they think they are technically not "having sex". Such youths forget - or may choose to ignore -that the Bible word for fornication includes all those practices, wrong conduct for which one might be disfellowshipped.

Seems P feels differently if the words of ELIXER are to be believed. He's all for it and sees nothing wrong with oral sex before or after marriage.

Then there is masturbation.

JW's think it leads to misconduct and should be avoided, They believe one should deaden that part of themselves so as not to develope a covetous sexual appetite.

P on the other hand thinks it's so great it's worthy of it's own song called "Here Eye Come".

Then there is the issue of Bragging, JW's preach against it.

P can't help but let you know the he is "The One" with all the goods, who will show you his life of luxery because he's "Mr Goodnight" and "There'll Never B Another Like Me".

I see HUGE differences in values here. So why stay with a religion that totally disagrees with you at every turn?

What keeps him there?
What religion should he choose next if he were to change now?


I suppose Larry Graham shared with Prince the Bible knowledge that benefits his own life because that's what the Sacred Scriptures tell a practicing Christian to do at Matthew 28:18-20. And I suppose that should Prince ever make a false step in his growth as a learning student, loving correction is being given within the Witness organization. And he may like the care
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