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Thread started 07/07/09 4:02pm

Revolution

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Prince - Is he the best of all time?

While the love fest continues elsewhere...let's put it out there.

Is he the best of all time?

No one compares (IMO)...and it wouldn't surprise me if the question at the pearly gates is: Did you get Prince's music?

Feel me?

MJ was a brilliant singer/dancer...best of all time, however, that's all he was. Let's not compare him to Prince, best musician of all time, but rather, compare him to someone like Sammy Davis Jr (who I don't hear anyone calling a musical genius).
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Reply #1 posted 07/07/09 4:27pm

ernestsewell

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Logically, he's not. Prince is not the end all and be all of music, despite his claims to being the embodiment of music.

But, is he up there? Oh yes, of course. But the greatest of all time? Nope.

Heaven is about a lot more than Prince.

Ernest L Sewell, IV
Confessions Of A Prince Realist. You might want to sit down for this.
"An ass hanging out on stage is an ass hanging out on stage. Period."
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Reply #2 posted 07/07/09 4:29pm

sirpsychosexy

YES!

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Reply #3 posted 07/07/09 4:34pm

WetDream

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In my estimation, yes.

at least in the music field.

You see, he's done it all, no one else has. He ain't just a musician on stage, he's an untouchable performer too! Lovesexy tour for instance. He just has it all.

I could go on and on about his unrivalled genius.
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Reply #4 posted 07/07/09 4:40pm

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Prince is to me. I'm sure many would agree, although there are so many "Great," artists that don't get that high on the musical ladder.

Thank God for everyone that makes music in general. cool

Last Night, I spent another lonely Christmas...Darlin' Darlin' U shoulda been there.~Prince.
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Reply #5 posted 07/07/09 4:47pm

jonylawson

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quite possibly.....

quite possibly

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Reply #6 posted 07/07/09 4:50pm

rialb

No. He had a decent shot but I think his post Sign 'O' The Times material is far too uneven for Prince to be considered the best of all time.

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Reply #7 posted 07/07/09 4:54pm

Tame

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Tame said:

Prince is to me. I'm sure many would agree, although there are so many "Great," artists that don't get that high on the musical ladder.

Thank God for everyone that makes music in general. cool


I guess I should add to this thought by saying that the musical ladder I am speaking of is what is presented to non-musician music buyers. Of course within the field...everyone knows how many artists deserve the highest respect.

How do U compare Prince with George Benson...You Don't...I don't think anyone should be compared...

I just love Prince as a man that is multi-talented...although I love the music made from so many men and woman...and Groups. cool

Last Night, I spent another lonely Christmas...Darlin' Darlin' U shoulda been there.~Prince.
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Reply #8 posted 07/07/09 5:03pm

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No, it was Michael Jackson. His memorial which was watched by 1 billion confirms and reinforces this.

I am a huge Prince fan and have been for over 25 years, but I have to admit Michael Jackson was an international iconic super super super star. No diss too Prince what so ever, it is just a fact.

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Reply #9 posted 07/07/09 5:05pm

kenlacam

Hell no! To say "best of all time", you'd have to factor in Mozart, which we all know, is waaaaayyyyy out of Prince's league. So no, he is not the best of all time. Michael Jackson was definitely a more international figure/pop icon. I doubt that a billion people will be watching Prince's funeral. Not that many people even know he exists.

It is what the hell it is.
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Reply #10 posted 07/07/09 5:05pm

PATSHEART

Although I LOVE the man's work. He has his weak points like anyone else. I don't think he should dance at all or at the least work with choreographers. Other than his dancing and his lack of musical output, (I know he has put out a lot but what about lately and not comparing him to other artists) he reigns supreme!

I now present unto you an original person, one that is able to rationalize and make decisions that utilize intellectual significance. Yes, this person is on the endangered species list. - Patsheart April 2, 2009
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Reply #11 posted 07/07/09 5:10pm

mzkqueen03

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sirpsychosexy said:

YES!


... highfive
..mzsexybaby kiss prince sexy

..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #12 posted 07/07/09 5:11pm

Close2u

mzkqueen03 said:

sirpsychosexy said:

YES!


... highfive
..mzsexybaby kiss prince sexy


Of course I love Prince the best mushy

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Reply #13 posted 07/07/09 5:14pm

jonty1975

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If its measured in musical ability then yes, think of all the instruments he plays. arrangement, song writing ability, etc, No diss to wolfgang but he was limited to what he played, and no diss to MJ, but a percentage of his fame etc came from NON musical issues as well, he was one hell of a singer and performer, dont get it twisted...I think Prince is the best of all time, and its just my opinion

"was i the first, was i your every fantasy"
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Reply #14 posted 07/07/09 5:15pm

Protege

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no.


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Reply #15 posted 07/07/09 5:25pm

mzkqueen03

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...this thread feels like a roller-coaster ride woot!
..mzsexybaby sexy

..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #16 posted 07/07/09 5:29pm

audience1

For Rock and Roll, I think that Michael is the greatest entertainer of all time, whereas Prince is the greatest musician of all time.

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Reply #17 posted 07/07/09 5:37pm

HomeSquid

Revolution said:

While the love fest continues elsewhere...let's put it out there.

Is he the best of all time?

No one compares (IMO)...and it wouldn't surprise me if the question at the pearly gates is: Did you get Prince's music?

Feel me?


As good as Prince is he has always been and will ALWAYS be inferior to Michael Jackson. In fact without MJ, James Brown and Hendrix Prince would have no act of his own. That's not a slam but a reality. Even Joni Mitchell denied Prince was an innovator but more of a terrific hybrid of other people's styles.

Folks seem to overhype the fact that prince plays instruments, etc... But in sheer terms of artistic output Prince doesn't measure up as an entertainer or as an artist.

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Reply #18 posted 07/07/09 5:39pm

Clevelandgirl

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I love Prince and his music, and always will, but Michael had the ability to touch people very deeply through his music. People in Romania, Italy, Greece, Bucharest. Michael Jackson's music is feel good music and the majority of people can relate to it.

Prince has a following but his music does not have the same scope and depth as Michael Jackson had. Remember We Are The World? Prince didn't even want to be a part of it though later he contributed for the tears of your eyes.

Michael sung Heal The World and this song is the most humanitarian song I have ever heard.

No diss to Prince, I love ya, but Michael Jackson is the best of all time and even though he couldn't play 18 instruments, his beautiful spirit and his ability to touch people of all ages, eras and generations was a once-in-a-lifetime phenomena I shall never forget.

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Reply #19 posted 07/07/09 5:40pm

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He's my favorite, but no, he's not the best of all time.

pout Prince use to have balls....now he has religion. - Nothinbutjoy
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Reply #20 posted 07/07/09 5:40pm

Clevelandgirl

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HomeSquid said:

Revolution said:

While the love fest continues elsewhere...let's put it out there.

Is he the best of all time?

No one compares (IMO)...and it wouldn't surprise me if the question at the pearly gates is: Did you get Prince's music?

Feel me?


As good as Prince is he has always been and will ALWAYS be inferior to Michael Jackson. In fact without MJ, James Brown and Hendrix Prince would have no act of his own. That's not a slam but a reality. Even Joni Mitchell denied Prince was an innovator but more of a terrific hybrid of other people's styles.

Folks seem to overhype the fact that prince plays instruments, etc... But in sheer terms of artistic output Prince doesn't measure up as an entertainer or as an artist.


agree

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Reply #21 posted 07/07/09 5:42pm

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...IT COULD be that M.J was an influence to prince..i mean prince started his band around the age of 13?...while at 13 m.j. and his brothers where making albums...i think that prince has been the most focused out of ANY ARTIST EVER..why?...well prince did things different from the rest...he always did was was best for him...and though some may THINK he is selfish..he is not..
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...why?...because of all the artist mentioned in this thread so far...prince is the only one still alive..still rich...still looks good..still working..and i L-O-V-E him biggrin
..mzsexybaby sexy

..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #22 posted 07/07/09 5:46pm

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I can only speak for my lifetime and my heart. Prince is the best to me. The MJ memorial today really choked me up. I lost it win Paris spoke. I can only hope Prince is shown as much love and respect when he leaves(hopefully many, many years from now) as MJ was today.MJ was clearly a great humanitarian, but the spirituality in Prince's music has really changed my life.
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Reply #23 posted 07/07/09 5:49pm

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...i think i would faint if big-daddi was not here on earth..
..mzsexybaby sexy

..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #24 posted 07/07/09 6:06pm

rialb

audience1 said:

For Rock and Roll, I think that Michael is the greatest entertainer of all time, whereas Prince is the greatest musician of all time.

Rock and Roll? I think you need to check your genre definitions. MJ was not a rock and roll artist.

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Reply #25 posted 07/07/09 6:14pm

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I think he's the greatest.

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Reply #26 posted 07/07/09 6:25pm

Revolution

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kenlacam said:

Hell no! To say "best of all time", you'd have to factor in Mozart, which we all know, is waaaaayyyyy out of Prince's league. So no, he is not the best of all time. Michael Jackson was definitely a more international figure/pop icon. I doubt that a billion people will be watching Prince's funeral. Not that many people even know he exists.


Hmmm, don't know much about Mozart, however, I'm pretty sure he wasn't funky and I'm positive he couldn't dance. Prince is more well-rounded, so, he wins.

As far as MJ, I'm not talking about a popularity contest...MJ sold out to become what he became (and it cost him his life). Success is not measured by the number of people at your funeral, but rather what you did with your God given talent. Prince has maximized his with an incredible work ethic. Stacks of deep purple concord jams that even MJ envied.

Here is the fundamental difference between the two...By your admission, not many people even know that Prince exists...Prince is making music because he needs to make music, for himself...even if no one is listening.
MJ wouldn't bother to make music unless he was guaranteed a full blown promotional circus.

Prince is music...and could very well be the test-on-earth. IMO

MJ was a brilliant singer/dancer...best of all time, however, that's all he was. Let's not compare him to Prince, best musician of all time, but rather, compare him to someone like Sammy Davis Jr (who I don't hear anyone calling a musical genius).
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Reply #27 posted 07/07/09 6:26pm

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Most definitely YES.

All the crap about MJ is vomit inducing. The media is having a field day with his death, it really is in bad taste. (I wonder how his victims feel about it all)

One thing that I have noted in all the hype is that MJ could not bring it live, his 'live' performances were anything but live, his performances in later years were particularly tragic, this appears to be overlooked because of the dance moves. Not my cup of tea.

MJ was not in the same league as Prince as a musician/singer(live),songwriter etc etc...however he could dance about the same. As for comparisons outside the business, well lets not go there just yet...that time will no doubt come when the 'false grief' comes to pass.

Prince's genuine competition comes from a much loftier bunch of 'musicians'... for me he is up against:

The Beatles
The Rolling Stones
David Bowie


MJ was up against:

Madonna
Elvis
Britney Spears
Justin Timberlake
etc etc

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Reply #28 posted 07/07/09 6:27pm

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This is one of those questions that will of course, be answered differently by each individual.
For me, Yes! He is the greatest musician of all "My Time".
He may or may not be for other folks...but for me, Yes!
Although, I do have lots of musicians that I appreciate and adore...

-you ain't funky at all, you just a little ol' prude!
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Reply #29 posted 07/07/09 6:30pm

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I think Prince *could* have been the best of all time. He's made too many missteps.

As it is---- he's one of the best, for sure.

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