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Prince As A Producer

P has never really had great success producing a legitimate stand alone act. The music either sounds like watered down versions of his or they cut a cool single but never take off. Been trying to think of an exception. Anybody?

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Reply #1 posted 06/24/09 2:28pm

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He hasn't really produced anyone he hasn't written the songs for as well though. Might be a moot question. You could use The Bangles as an example. The track is Prince, and you can hear a bit of Brenda and Susan on the track as well. It was a hit for them. They were established before that song or album. And since they used a Prince track to sing over, it could be considered a "Prince production".

The same argument could go for anyone who uses one of his tracks. Kenny Rogers (I assume that's Prince's track, but I don't know for sure.) Sheena Easton. Taja Sevelle. Martika might be another example as far as his production for her, although his songs never quite took off for her.

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Reply #2 posted 06/24/09 2:32pm

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sgmusic said:

P has never really had great success producing a legitimate stand alone act. The music either sounds like watered down versions of his or they cut a cool single but never take off. Been trying to think of an exception. Anybody?


...what!!!!>??...prince produced THE TIME..SHELIA E...
..THEY are still successful to THIS DAY!!
..mzsexybaby sexy

..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #3 posted 06/24/09 2:34pm

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mzkqueen03 said:

sgmusic said:

P has never really had great success producing a legitimate stand alone act. The music either sounds like watered down versions of his or they cut a cool single but never take off. Been trying to think of an exception. Anybody?


...what!!!!>??...prince produced THE TIME..SHELIA E...
..THEY are still successful to THIS DAY!!
..mzsexybaby sexy


You're not paying attention. fishslap

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Reply #4 posted 06/24/09 2:49pm

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mzkqueen03 said:

sgmusic said:

P has never really had great success producing a legitimate stand alone act. The music either sounds like watered down versions of his or they cut a cool single but never take off. Been trying to think of an exception. Anybody?


...what!!!!>??...prince produced THE TIME..SHELIA E...
..THEY are still successful to THIS DAY!!
..mzsexybaby sexy

Eh, as I understand it Prince basically did everything on those albums, with some exceptions, and then directed the singers to do the vocals exactly as he wanted them. The Time and Sheila E., at least in the early-mid '80s and on album, were basically puppets.

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rialb said:

mzkqueen03 said:



...what!!!!>??...prince produced THE TIME..SHELIA E...
..THEY are still successful to THIS DAY!!
..mzsexybaby sexy

Eh, as I understand it Prince basically did everything on those albums, with some exceptions, and then directed the singers to do the vocals exactly as he wanted them. The Time and Sheila E., at least in the early-mid '80s and on album, were basically puppets.


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Reply #6 posted 06/24/09 3:58pm

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prince production. you gonna sound like him, look like him, act like him but not get paid like him smile

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DesireeNevermind said:

prince production. you gonna sound like him, look like him, act like him but not get paid like him smile


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Reply #8 posted 06/24/09 4:21pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

prince production. you gonna sound like him, look like him, act like him but not get paid like him smile



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Reply #9 posted 06/24/09 5:41pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

prince production. you gonna sound like him, look like him, act like him but not get paid like him smile

lol

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Reply #10 posted 06/24/09 6:27pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

prince production. you gonna sound like him, look like him, act like him but not get paid like him smile


Thats my Des lol !

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Reply #11 posted 06/24/09 7:00pm

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sgmusic said:

P has never really had great success producing a legitimate stand alone act. The music either sounds like watered down versions of his or they cut a cool single but never take off. Been trying to think of an exception. Anybody?


WTF?????

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Reply #13 posted 06/24/09 11:11pm

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sgmusic said:

P has never really had great success producing a legitimate stand alone act. The music either sounds like watered down versions of his or they cut a cool single but never take off. Been trying to think of an exception. Anybody?

You can pretty much say the same thing about most producers. Typically they have a signature sound or at the very least there is something about their music which is common among acts they produce. When you here a difference.. it's because the artist themselves have such a strong musical identity that the producers style doesn't over shadow it.

and What would you qualify as legitimate...? I'ld say albums by Tevin Cambell, Sheila E, the Time, etc etc etc etc etc where all legitimate.

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Reply #14 posted 06/25/09 4:25am

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sgmusic said:

P has never really had great success producing a legitimate stand alone act. The music either sounds like watered down versions of his or they cut a cool single but never take off. Been trying to think of an exception. Anybody?

You can pretty much say the same thing about most producers. Typically they have a signature sound or at the very least there is something about their music which is common among acts they produce. When you here a difference.. it's because the artist themselves have such a strong musical identity that the producers style doesn't over shadow it.

and What would you qualify as legitimate...? I'ld say albums by Tevin Cambell, Sheila E, the Time, etc etc etc etc etc where all legitimate.

I think the difference with Prince vs. lot of other producers is that with a Prince production the music basically sounds like a Prince song with someone else singing the lead vocals (often directed by Prince exactly how to sing the vocals). With most successful producers they try to adapt their style depending on who they are producing. For example, when Rick Rubin produces the Red Hot Chili Peppers, the Dixie Chicks, Johnny Cash and Slipknot each artist still sounds like themselves, they don't sound like a Rick Rubin production. That is rarely the case with Prince.

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BigDaddyHQ said:

sgmusic said:

P has never really had great success producing a legitimate stand alone act. The music either sounds like watered down versions of his or they cut a cool single but never take off. Been trying to think of an exception. Anybody?

You can pretty much say the same thing about most producers. Typically they have a signature sound or at the very least there is something about their music which is common among acts they produce. When you here a difference.. it's because the artist themselves have such a strong musical identity that the producers style doesn't over shadow it.

and What would you qualify as legitimate...? I'ld say albums by Tevin Cambell, Sheila E, the Time, etc etc etc etc etc where all legitimate.


The Time were produced by Prince early in their careers but were not superstars in their own right and were always associated with Prince. Wiki about their start - The band went on to release four albums (mostly performed by Prince + singer Morris Day alone) during the course of their main career, each a solid slice of jammy, rock-infused 80s funk, generally light and humorous in tone, strongly influenced by Parliament - and, of course, Prince. Although they scored numerous hits (including "The Bird", "Jungle Love", "777-9311", "Get It Up", "Gigolos Get Lonely Too", "The Walk" and "Cool", mostly on the R&B charts) during the early 1980s, they never approached superstardom. Love Sheila to death but all of her hits are well...you know.

Prince produced tracks on Tevin Cambell's sophmore album. He was already an artist before Prince came along. I was trying to think of an out of the box start up act where he has produced them from the gate. In my humble opinion legitimate means they can move 500k+ units that are conceptualized and produced by Prince,they've attained "superstar" status and can pack major venues on their own strength as headliners.

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Reply #16 posted 06/25/09 7:40am

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sgmusic said:

P has never really had great success producing a legitimate stand alone act. The music either sounds like watered down versions of his or they cut a cool single but never take off. Been trying to think of an exception. Anybody?

What is the TIME?
.....U 4 get what Prince's goals were with his"groups".
That was 2 get HIS music out.
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Reply #17 posted 06/25/09 12:42pm

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ernestsewell said:

mzkqueen03 said:



...what!!!!>??...prince produced THE TIME..SHELIA E...
..THEY are still successful to THIS DAY!!
..mzsexybaby sexy


You're not paying attention. fishslap

...what ernest...prince PRODUCED those people..PRODUCED is the key key word..
...i mean look at the time...
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..they will be in chicago june26th at country club hills..(by the way i have tickets 2 the concert..anyone want them orgnote me..it is too far 4 me)..
..they still doing it strong..AND they will also be doing the jamaica-boat-party-jam...
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...leadership..however..means service..
..mzsexybaby sexy

..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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