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Reply #60 posted 04/29/09 8:28am

ernestsewell

Cinnie said:

If anyone has read Per Nilsen's book DMSR, they know when songs for The Family were recorded. Why would you be surprised that the songs were recorded in 1984 if the album came out in 1985?
It's my favorite side project. I think I remember reading "River Run Dry" had a bassline which was muted after the success of the bass-less "When Doves Cry".
The whole Family sound sounds like a precursor to Parade, that doesn't mean it was recorded one month prior to Parade and after ATWIAD though.


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But really, it's "Mutiny" and "High Fashion" that had the bass muted. The full-on bass versions have leaked. I think I still have them somewhere. Bobby'z "River Run Dry" wasn't one of those, I think. I am glad that NC2U was scaled back, compared to the fuller version St. Paul released a few years ago on his site. I could deal with the tick tock ,but the rest seemed over done.
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Reply #61 posted 04/29/09 8:54am

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I love this era. This was the time when my mom got me my first Prince album, Parade of course. I thought it was weird but I liked it then. Now it's myabsolute favorite Prince album ever. Ahhh to be 7 years old again. lol
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #62 posted 04/29/09 11:23am

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purplecam said:

I love this era. This was the time when my mom got me my first Prince album, Parade of course. I thought it was weird but I liked it then. Now it's myabsolute favorite Prince album ever. Ahhh to be 7 years old again. lol


wow 7
what a good age 2 B exposed to creativity

Yeah there was something magic about getting an album/lp, cd don't have the same feel

I got allowance and would by all the 45's 12inches protege albums and Prince albums
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Reply #63 posted 04/29/09 11:27am

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[Edited 4/29/09 5:18am]


Wow eek

thank U - never seen this before, full version... heart
[Edited 4/29/09 11:28am]
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Reply #64 posted 04/29/09 4:42pm

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tricky2 said:


[Edited 4/29/09 5:18am]


Wow eek

thank U - never seen this before, full version... heart
[Edited 4/29/09 11:28am]






"Kiss" is a 1986 song by Prince and the Revolution, from the album Parade. Kiss started as a short acoustic demo, about a minute in length, with one verse and the chorus. Prince gave the song to the funk band Mazarati for their debut album. Mazarati and producer David Z. drastically reworked the song, giving it its unique raw funk and oddly effective stripped-down minimalist sound. When Mazarati delivered the song to Prince, he was amazed at their work and decided to take back the song for himself. He replaced their lead vocal, added the guitar break in the chorus and edited the song to its present form.

Mazarati were credited for their backing vocals, which Prince left intact. He added the song at the last minute to Parade. Despite Warner Bros. not wanting to release it as a single, Kiss became Prince's third number-one U.S. hit following 1984's highly successful "When Doves Cry" and "Let's Go Crazy". It was also a big hit across the Atlantic, reaching #6 on the UK Singles Chart. The song won Prince another Grammy Award for Best R&B Vocal Performance by a Duo or Group, and was nominated for Best R&B Song. [1] The song has become a staple at Prince's concerts and is usually sung partially by the audience.

The 12" single of the song is an extension of the album track. The extended section is based on the funky guitar line and contains much fuller instrumentation than the main track, including bass, keys and horns. New lyrics are present from Prince with Jill Jones that ends with a humorous dialogue between a wife and her husband watching Prince on television. The B-side of Kiss was the funky "¢¾ or $" ("Love or Money"), sung in a processed, higher-pitched vocal, which Prince would later use for his Camille material. The song relates to the theme in Under the Cherry Moon and a bit of the song was heard in the film, as was a bit of the extended version of Kiss. The extended Kiss was included on 2006's Ultimate but "¢¾ or $" has oddly never been re-released.





















Kiss

Uh!
U don't have 2 be beautiful 2 turn me on
I just need your body, baby, from dusk till dawn
U don't need experience 2 turn me out
U just leave it all up 2 me, I'm gonna show U what it's all about

CHORUS:
U don't have 2 be rich 2 be my girl
U don't have 2 be cool 2 rule my world
Ain't no particular sign I'm more compatible with
I just want your extra time and your... kiss

U got 2 not talk dirty, baby, if U wanna impress me
U can't be 2 flirty, mama, I know how 2 undress me (Yeah)
I want 2 be your fantasy, maybe U could be mine
U just leave it all up 2 me, we could have a good time

CHORUS

Yes, oh
I think I wanna dance, uh
Gotta, gotta, oh
Little Girl Wendy's Parade
Gotta, gotta, gotta

Women, not girls, rule my world, I said they rule my world
Act your age, mama, not your shoe size, maybe we could do the twirl
U don't have 2 watch Dynasty 2 have an attitude, uh
U just leave it all up 2 me, my love will be your food (Yeah)

U don't have 2 be rich 2 be my girl
U don't have 2 be cool 2 rule my world
Ain't no particular sign I'm compatible with!
I just want your extra time and your... kiss

Woman overboard, everybody on the ground
10 toes goin' up, 10 toes goin' down
Got the gun pointin' at 'cha
We're never gonna cut our hair
(Come here, let me cut that hair) No!

Gotta, gotta
(My body wanna tell U 2 take control)
(This way 2 this purple soul)

Oh, pretty mama, I think I wanna ride

Sophie, 4 God's sake
If U touch the television, I'll kill U Sophie

Sol, can U please change the channel 4 God's sake?
I don't care, leave it alone, sit down!

I can't stand David Letterman, he looks like a banker

U don't have 2 watch Dynasty 2 have an attitude
Leave it all up 2 me, my love will be, will be your food
Everybody will have short hair
Let's cut it, mama! (Pretty mama)
I think I wanna ride
Put the daddy in the front seat, me and the girl outside
I just want your extra time and your... kiss

Oh my God, isn't that Prince on television, Sol? {fade out}

OK Sophie, it's obvious
No, wait a minute, I bought this television
Why'd... why U ruin it 4 me 4 God's sake?

Is he the strangest lookin' thing U've ever seen or what?

U wanna talk strange Sophie? OK, let's talk strange

Sol, don't U touch that channel!
Leave it alone, Sol!

Sophie, U're strange, I'm changin' the channel

Sol, do U... do U value your life?
Sit down Sol!
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Reply #65 posted 04/29/09 7:28pm

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Goodnight, sweet Prince.
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Reply #66 posted 04/29/09 7:53pm

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Prince and director Mary Lambert filming Under The Cherry Moon in September 1985 before Prince decided to take over directing the movie.

Susannah Melvoin (Revolution member Wendy Melvoin's twin sister) and Prince's father John Nelson.

Susannah Melvoin whom Prince was engaged to during the Parade era from August 1985 until April 1986, Prince continued to see her until December 1986.

Prince and Susannah Melvoin.

Devin DeVasquez and Prince's father at the Under The Cherry Moon premiere in Sheridan, Wyoming July 1, 1986.

[Edited 4/30/09 20:20pm]
Goodnight, sweet Prince.
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Reply #67 posted 04/29/09 9:23pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:[quote]I thought since Prince's Lotus Flow3r sites has that tv set talking about 1986 and the 1st Parade album single, I would start a thread on the Parade era. One of my favorites all around. 3 protege groups: the Family Sheila ERomance 1600 & Mazarati, new movie in black n white, new look matured sound. a Black cloud guitar. I've been seeing some Parade era pics posted here in the last few weeks that I've never seen before...





Prince actually looks angry in this first pic, like he just got some bad news.
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Reply #68 posted 04/29/09 9:35pm

eaglebear4839

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I just want to say "Wil-burrrr!" when I see this photo!
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Reply #69 posted 04/29/09 9:54pm

eaglebear4839

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blackguitaristz said:

Word was at that time was that P was going to do a full scale tour with Sheila and Mazarati as opening acts. That would have been cool. I saw Mazarati live at The Palace in Hollywood and as a band, they were great. Sir Casey's vocals were too weak to pull of live though. They didn't even play my favorite song of their's..Strawberry Lover. I ADORED the Mazarati album. I played that album 30 times more than I did Parade. To this day, I think the Mazarati album was one of the best things to come out of Paisley Park. MarkBrown did a great job on that album. Another great album was The Family. Excellent lyrics from P. High Fashion and Mutiny, which originally were written for The Time's Ice Cream Castle, but once P saw that Morris and Jesse were bouncing, he held the songs back and came up with The Family instead. Screams of Passion should have been a bigger hit.

Like Sheila's A Love Bizzare, which was basically a duet between Sheila and P. P had total dominence on r&b radio with his and his artist's material...Kiss, Mountains, Sister's Fate, Player's Ball, A Love Bizzare, Screams of Passion, 100 M.P.H., all got heavy rotation. I liked Sheila's band image from Romance 1600 and Mazarati's black rock image. As much as I love The Family's album, their image wasn't as happening. Paul and Wendy's twin sister as lead vocalists weren't clicking. And Jerome and Jellybean weren't strong enough to save it. Eric on bass, although it wasn't his instrument, had a natural pressence which was cool. But the band's image looked very thrown together. "Here, u do this and oh, u do that. There it is...Yeah, that'll work!".


I have to disagree with you about the Family image, as well as the Mazarati album. I will give you that the Family as a project seems hastily arranged, but as far as the look, it's more of the Sly/Family Stone angle that he was going for. As for the Mazarati album, Strawberry Lover is my favorite song from that album, and She's Just That Kind Of Lady and Stroke are close seconds, but overall, the reason I never really listened to that album outside of when I first got it is because to me, there just seemed to be a hollowness to the album, either because it would have benefitted more if Prince had had more input or something. Now if it's your assertion that Mazarati is just like the Family, and Prince contributed much more, just as he did with the Family, then I'd agree with you.

One thing I do know is that when these albums came out, I was a willing sponge for anything that had the label Paisley Park on it, and I soaked these albums up with the quickness (teenagers have that ability, tho.) So it probably didn't matter if it wasn't the best quality, as was the case with the non-Prince-involved Good Question, but I still ate it up until Batman came out.
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Reply #70 posted 04/29/09 10:10pm

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eaglebear4839 said:

blackguitaristz said:


Like Sheila's A Love Bizzare, which was basically a duet between Sheila and P. P had total dominence on r&b radio with his and his artist's material...Kiss, Mountains, Sister's Fate, Player's Ball, A Love Bizzare, Screams of Passion, 100 M.P.H., all got heavy rotation. I liked Sheila's band image from Romance 1600 and Mazarati's black rock image. As much as I love The Family's album, their image wasn't as happening. Paul and Wendy's twin sister as lead vocalists weren't clicking. And Jerome and Jellybean weren't strong enough to save it. Eric on bass, although it wasn't his instrument, had a natural pressence which was cool. But the band's image looked very thrown together. "Here, u do this and oh, u do that. There it is...Yeah, that'll work!".


I have to disagree with you about the Family image, as well as the Mazarati album. I will give you that the Family as a project seems hastily arranged, but as far as the look, it's more of the Sly/Family Stone angle that he was going for. As for the Mazarati album, Strawberry Lover is my favorite song from that album, and She's Just That Kind Of Lady and Stroke are close seconds, but overall, the reason I never really listened to that album outside of when I first got it is because to me, there just seemed to be a hollowness to the album, either because it would have benefitted more if Prince had had more input or something. Now if it's your assertion that Mazarati is just like the Family, and Prince contributed much more, just as he did with the Family, then I'd agree with you.

One thing I do know is that when these albums came out, I was a willing sponge for anything that had the label Paisley Park on it, and I soaked these albums up with the quickness (teenagers have that ability, tho.) So it probably didn't matter if it wasn't the best quality, as was the case with the non-Prince-involved Good Question, but I still ate it up until Batman came out.

U think that The Family's image was like Sly and the Family Stone? Visually? How do u figure that? It's not because both bands has the word "Family" in it is it? And I never stated that Mazarati was ANYTHING like The Family. Both were good albums as I stated, but they were entirely different bags. P was very much involved with the Mazarati album. He wrote 100 MPH and the music to Strawberry Lover with Mark. That song was initially titled "Fear of the Shadow" (shadow was Mark's nickname given to him by Prince) but P re-wrote the lyrics to that coming up with Strawberry Lover. Mark took the riff and theme in lyrics from Extra Loveable. P just re- worked the song. Besides that, P and Mark played all of the instruments on the album and Sir Casey did the vocals. Jill Jones did backing vocals on I Guess It's All Over and Strawberry Lover.
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Reply #71 posted 04/29/09 10:19pm

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tricky2 said:






eek .....ppppfffffttttt HAHAHAHAH!!! falloff


i cant stop laughing at this pics lol
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Reply #72 posted 04/29/09 10:47pm

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Genesia said:




"Yo Isaac!! strokin it couple of time for me cousin and make sure you put pillow up her ass she like that!"


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Reply #73 posted 04/29/09 10:50pm

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I actually laughed out loud when I saw this pic. It's one thing in the movie, but as a still shot....TOO damn funny.
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Reply #74 posted 04/29/09 10:53pm

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Goodnight, sweet Prince.
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Reply #75 posted 04/29/09 10:56pm

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Is that what my ass looks like in a lacy pair of knickers?
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Reply #76 posted 04/29/09 11:11pm

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lol
Goodnight, sweet Prince.
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Reply #77 posted 04/30/09 6:12am

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rudeboynpg saidSusannah Melvoin (Revolution member Wendy Melvoin's twin sister) and Prince's father John Nelson.



You sure that's Susannah and not Devin?
[Edited 4/30/09 6:18am]
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Reply #78 posted 04/30/09 6:45am

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PEJ said:








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Reply #79 posted 04/30/09 6:59am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

purplecam said:

I love this era. This was the time when my mom got me my first Prince album, Parade of course. I thought it was weird but I liked it then. Now it's myabsolute favorite Prince album ever. Ahhh to be 7 years old again. lol


wow 7
what a good age 2 B exposed to creativity

Yes indeed! I've always had good taste in music lol. Mom was cool like that back then. She said no to me when I asked if we could see Purple Rain 2 years earlier but she must've thought I grew up enough to deal with The Kid. lol cool

OldFriends4Sale said:

Yeah there was something magic about getting an album/lp, cd don't have the same feel

I got allowance and would by all the 45's 12inches protege albums and Prince albums

Man at that time, I didn't even know much about the protege's except for The Time, Sheila E, Appolonia and Vanity. If I did, I would have asked for their albums too. nod
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #80 posted 04/30/09 8:13am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

rudeboynpg saidSusannah Melvoin (Revolution member Wendy Melvoin's twin sister) and Prince's father John Nelson.



You sure that's Susannah and not Devin?


Yeah, that ain't Susannah. Not even close.
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Reply #81 posted 04/30/09 9:23am

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Diamonds19 said:

tricky2 said:




eek .....ppppfffffttttt HAHAHAHAH!!! falloff

i cant stop laughing at this pics lol


I always find it funny how when artist draw Prince they make him shades darker than he really is, and as we can all see with the pic in the love thread, Prince looks pretty white
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Reply #82 posted 04/30/09 9:55am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

I always find it funny how when artist draw Prince they make him shades darker than he really is, and as we can all see with the pic in the love thread, Prince looks pretty white


The only thing about that pic that looks like Prince is the lips and the pants anyway.
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Reply #83 posted 04/30/09 7:01pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

rudeboynpg saidSusannah Melvoin (Revolution member Wendy Melvoin's twin sister) and Prince's father John Nelson.



You sure that's Susannah and not Devin?


It's a dark pic at night but that looks like Susannah with bangs to me.

ernestsewell said:

Yeah, that ain't Susannah. Not even close.


Not even close? Here's Susannah with bangs in the "Girls & Boys" video next to Wendy. Maybe I did too much acid in the '90s but she looks like the woman with Prince's father to me.

[Edited 4/30/09 19:21pm]
Goodnight, sweet Prince.
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Reply #84 posted 04/30/09 7:43pm

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Not even close? Here's Susannah with bangs in the "Girls & Boys" video next to Wendy. Maybe I did too much acid in the '90s but she looks like the woman with Prince's father to me.


I sent a message to St. Paul. He doesn't think it's Susannah, but he's asking Susannah to be sure. We shall know for sure soon.
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Reply #85 posted 04/30/09 8:33pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:



The woman in the "Kiss" video with Prince is Monique Manning.
Goodnight, sweet Prince.
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Reply #86 posted 04/30/09 8:42pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:



The woman in the "Kiss" video with Prince is Monique Manning.


You can see her face in the Eddie Murphy movie, "Coming to America." Its the seen where Eddie and Arsenio are in a club "intervewing" girls. She's very pretty, almost a dead ringer for Vanity.
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Reply #87 posted 04/30/09 11:04pm

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rudeboynpg said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

rudeboynpg saidSusannah Melvoin (Revolution member Wendy Melvoin's twin sister) and Prince's father John Nelson.



You sure that's Susannah and not Devin?


It's a dark pic at night but that looks like Susannah with bangs to me.

ernestsewell said:

Yeah, that ain't Susannah. Not even close.


Not even close? Here's Susannah with bangs in the "Girls & Boys" video next to Wendy. Maybe I did too much acid in the '90s but she looks like the woman with Prince's father to me.

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no that top photo with prince's dad is not susannah!!!
To Sir, with Love
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To Sir, with Love
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