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Thread started 04/12/09 10:17pm

emesem

Did he diss Bobby Z in Ol School Company?

if so, not cool

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Reply #1 posted 04/12/09 10:18pm

sexyone

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I have no clue but why do u think he dissed him??? What did he say in the song?

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Reply #2 posted 04/12/09 10:42pm

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emesem said:

if so, not cool


A lyric quote would have helped.

But I assume you're talking about:

RADIO USED 2 B LOCAL UNTOUCHED BY THE MAN
SONGS WE USED 2 SING USED 2 MEAN SOMETHING
NOW THEY JUST BLAND LIKE THE DRUMMER
WHERE’S THE REAL DRUMMER? MICHAEL B.
MINT CONDITION, MORRIS DAY
JELLYBEAN WISHIN’ SHEILA E AND BROTHER JOHN, SOMETIMES ME
‘TIL DAWN

Why does it have to be about Z? What about Blackwell who constantly started songs off wrong, missed his cues, and couldn't operate a drum pad to save his life?

It's no diss. Bland worked with him a lot on LotusFlower as a drummer, (as did Sonny Thompson). That's probably why he got a nod in the song.

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Reply #3 posted 04/12/09 10:53pm

OldFriends4Sal
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emesem said:

if so, not cool



No he said nothing about Bobby in that song
there was no diss to that

Now where I come from
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Our clothes, our hair, we don't care
It's all about being there...
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Reply #4 posted 04/12/09 11:10pm

PEJ

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lol Yeah Bobby is so successful in his solo drumming career Prince felt threatened and decided to diss Booby indirectly by not even mentioning him in Ol Skool Company but mentioning Sheila Michael and even himself.

easy does it

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Reply #5 posted 04/13/09 12:03am

berniejobs

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He's not dissin' Bobby Z in that song. If he is at all, it's just by NOT mentioning him. But he can't sit there and name EVERY drummer. Well, he could, but that would take too long...

If anything I thought it was slightly fucked up to say "Bland" as in the word definition meaning "lame or boring".

Of course he didn't mean it about Michael B. He was just rhymin.

But...

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Reply #6 posted 04/13/09 12:04am

berniejobs

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What I'm trying to say is... umm... he's kinda assigning a meaning to Michael Bland's family name...

Like if my last name was Dick.

And the lyric was:

"You can suck my Dick. Just like Bernie."

Naw mean?

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Reply #7 posted 04/13/09 12:26am

PEJ

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berniejobs said:

What I'm trying to say is... umm... he's kinda assigning a meaning to Michael Bland's family name...

Like if my last name was Dick.

And the lyric was:

"You can suck my Dick. Just like Bernie."

Naw mean?




Bernie Dicks?



lol

easy does it

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Reply #8 posted 04/13/09 12:51am

jfrost

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If by not mentioning Bobby Z is a diss at the man then he is dissing Cora as well.
He could make it up with a new song,Eh!"My Drummers","Give Us A Beat,Man(& Girl)" either way Bobby should sue, like everything in America if you notice a slip the the court is the only answer.
But may-be, just may-be, Bobby and Cora just didn't fit THIS TIME

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Reply #9 posted 04/13/09 12:52am

Dayclear

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No, he did not. confused

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Reply #10 posted 04/13/09 2:29am

Sander

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No diss to Bobby, but why is Jellybean wishin'? Is Jellybean wishin' he a real drummer?

And about Blackwell. Did he really make much mistakes with songs? I haven't heard any. I saw him at an aftershow where he did a solo in which he played the drumparts to a lot of old Prince songs. He had P crackin' up! I never heard him miss a beat.

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Reply #11 posted 04/13/09 3:42am

The777Man

Sander said:

No diss to Bobby, but why is Jellybean wishin'? Is Jellybean wishin' he a real drummer?


Jellybean is Jellybean Johnson; drummer of The Time.

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Reply #12 posted 04/13/09 3:46am

Sander

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The777Man said:

Sander said:

No diss to Bobby, but why is Jellybean wishin'? Is Jellybean wishin' he a real drummer?


Jellybean is Jellybean Johnson; drummer of The Time.

The777Man


Yessss *Morris Day voice*, but why is Jellybean wishin'?

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Reply #13 posted 04/13/09 5:08am

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I ain't got no issues - call me 777-9311.....

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Reply #14 posted 04/13/09 5:22am

lotusflw3r

no evidence, but I suspect prince and morris were the only drummers on the Time albums (jellybean was the live drummer), so he was "wishin'" to play on the studio tracks. ???

Didn't Bobby Z play mainly drum machine patterns???

it's a diss by admission.

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Reply #15 posted 04/13/09 5:34am

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y'all need to get out the damn house i swear

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Reply #16 posted 04/13/09 5:40am

Dsoul

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Bland (drummers on the radio) leads into Michael Bland via Prince's witty wordplay. neutral

More to the point when was radio "untouched by the man"? He doesn't half harp on about some golden era that never existed.

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Reply #17 posted 04/13/09 5:52am

thebanishedone

bobby z didnt play drum machine patterns
from 1979 untill 1982(starting with 1999 tour) bobby z played live drums.

he played live drums on parade tour with addition of electronic
percussions.
if you listen to atlanta 1980 boot you gonna hear
that bobby was great in the pocket drummer.
he didnt have a flashy style but for what prince was doing at the time bobby z was great.
and while his drumming style was simple it had something "princley" in it.
if you wanna judge bobby z listen to atlanta 1980 boot and we can talk
lol

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Reply #18 posted 04/13/09 5:56am

Whitnail

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PEJ said:

lol Yeah Bobby is so successful in [b]his solo drumming career Prince felt threatened [/b]and decided to diss Booby indirectly by not even mentioning him in Ol Skool Company but mentioning Sheila Michael and even himself.



lol lol lol

Spot on lol lol lol

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Reply #19 posted 04/13/09 6:02am

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IAintTheOne said:

y'all need to get out the damn house i swear

falloff

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I Wish There Was No Black and White
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Reply #20 posted 04/13/09 6:12am

Jboogiee

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What diss?
Another classic example of someone reading into shit that's not there!

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Reply #21 posted 04/13/09 6:12am

Whitnail

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JayJai said:

IAintTheOne said:

y'all need to get out of the damn house i swear

falloff



hahhahahahahahahahahaha

If it were not for insanity, I would be a sane man today

So began the mass illusion, war on terror alibi
What's the use when the god of confusion keeps on telling the same lie?
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Reply #22 posted 04/13/09 6:17am

Whitnail

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this is a landmark thread of nonsense, not even after 4 grams of the highest grade Jamaica offers, could i come out with this rubbish...

If it were not for insanity, I would be a sane man today

So began the mass illusion, war on terror alibi
What's the use when the god of confusion keeps on telling the same lie?
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Reply #23 posted 04/13/09 7:45am

OldFriends4Sal
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lotusflw3r said:

no evidence, but I suspect prince and morris were the only drummers on the Time albums (jellybean was the live drummer), so he was "wishin'" to play on the studio tracks. ???

Didn't Bobby Z play mainly drum machine patterns???

it's a diss by admission.



No Bobby played both, Prince brought in the drum machine patterns to the live shows around 1999 (Sheila played the drum machine patterns too and because Sheila would be upfront with Prince (playing the percussion) sometimes they just rocked to a programmed drum pattern (like they did during Strange Relationships)
[Edited 4/13/09 7:47am]

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Reply #24 posted 04/13/09 8:13am

thecloud

OK let's clear the air, it is a diss 2 some degree. Bobby Z. went 2 Paisley Park sometime between 2000-02 & when he finally saw Prince face to face him & Larry Graham were bashing Lisa & Wendy's supposedly homosexuality. This started after there was some talk of a Revolution reunion-tour during the encounter between the three. Prince supposedly said that there would be no reunion as he did not approve of they're lifestyle & they would have to hold a press conference apologizng for they supposedly gay lifestyle. Bobby Z. sat pissed-off & left Paisley Park & allegedly stated he didn't care if he never saw Prince again. CHECK Per Neilson's book "Possesed The Rise & Fall of Prince" it's in there. So yes he was most likely not mentioned because of that encounter & his later quote in the book.

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Reply #25 posted 04/13/09 8:21am

Erika2k8

emesem said:

if so, not cool

wELL JUDGING BY THAT LINE..which i thought was just word play.Michael B could be Michael Bland who was the drummer for him his NPG days
how bobby z got into it i dont know

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Reply #26 posted 04/13/09 8:24am

Genesia

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Prince has never mentioned me in a song, either. All the time, that tinyass bitch was dissin' me and I didn't even know it! mad

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Reply #27 posted 04/13/09 8:34am

leecaldon

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CHECK Per Neilson's book "Possesed The Rise & Fall of Prince" it's in there. So yes he was most likely not mentioned because of that encounter & his later quote in the book.


Alex Hahn wrote Possessed. Per Nilsen's masterpiece is DMSR. And I wish he would hurry would write a follow-up!

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Reply #28 posted 04/13/09 9:02am

emesem

Erika2k8 said:

emesem said:

if so, not cool

wELL JUDGING BY THAT LINE..which i thought was just word play.Michael B could be Michael Bland who was the drummer for him his NPG days
how bobby z got into it i dont know



Just to be clear. The diss is his absence from the list of "real" drummers (which includes Michael B.(land).

Mint Condition????? WTF?

I thought Brother John is John Blackwell. Maybe not.

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Reply #29 posted 04/13/09 9:34am

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berniejobs said:

He's not dissin' Bobby Z in that song. If he is at all, it's just by NOT mentioning him. But he can't sit there and name EVERY drummer. Well, he could, but that would take too long...

If anything I thought it was slightly fucked up to say "Bland" as in the word definition meaning "lame or boring".

Of course he didn't mean it about Michael B. He was just rhymin.

But...



okay he doesn't mention kirky j either so is he dissing kirky j the best man at his 1st wedding as well?

the truth will b told and 4 those that fear that xposure of it ..oh well! u won't ever silence me. the innocent have voices that need 2 b heard and u will hear them
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