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Thread started 10/05/08 1:35pm

setyrmindphree

Morning Papers

I read the lyrics. Is it about waiting for a girl to grow up so you can be with her? I'm really not sure. Are the "Morning Papers" referencing traditional thought? I just am not understanding this one.

What ya'll think professors?

Whenever U say that U can't, that's when U need 2 be tryin'
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Reply #1 posted 10/05/08 2:31pm

LadyInWhite

Great song; and potentially quite literal, given some of his romances in the 90's; Carmen Electra, Anna Garcia and Mayte were all barely legal when he first met them. It's Mayte in the video, but who knows (although they do look very much in love in the video)

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Reply #2 posted 10/05/08 4:16pm

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Beautiful song. I'm sure that she is mature and grown by now. cool

Here we are in this big ole' empty room, starin' eachother down.
U want me just as much as I want U, let's stop foolin' around.~Prince
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Reply #3 posted 10/05/08 5:59pm

Dayclear

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I never understood what that song meant, but it's nice and I love the Video! biggrin

How u ever gonna win if u let 'em all see your hand? -PRINCE
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Reply #4 posted 10/05/08 6:35pm

Darwintheorgan
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setyrmindphree said:

I read the lyrics. Is it about waiting for a girl to grow up so you can be with her? I'm really not sure. Are the "Morning Papers" referencing traditional thought? I just am not understanding this one.

What ya'll think professors?



The beauty of interpretation is that no one is ever really sure. I took a literature course where we had to do a lot of interpreting. We had to read a piece and write a paper explaining what we got out of it. There were no wrong answers. The goal was to show why you came to the conclusion that you reached.
Songs are a bit tougher, because there is much less to work with. When I had to interpret a poem, I choose a rather lengthy one so I had stuff to work with.

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Reply #5 posted 10/05/08 6:39pm

Dayclear

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Prince reminds me of reading shakespeare, you've got to read it then go 'huh'? Then read it again and listen and sometimes you still don't get it. confused

How u ever gonna win if u let 'em all see your hand? -PRINCE
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Reply #6 posted 10/05/08 6:48pm

setyrmindphree

Darwintheorgangrinder said:

setyrmindphree said:

I read the lyrics. Is it about waiting for a girl to grow up so you can be with her? I'm really not sure. Are the "Morning Papers" referencing traditional thought? I just am not understanding this one.

What ya'll think professors?



The beauty of interpretation is that no one is ever really sure. I took a literature course where we had to do a lot of interpreting. We had to read a piece and write a paper explaining what we got out of it. There were no wrong answers. The goal was to show why you came to the conclusion that you reached.
Songs are a bit tougher, because there is much less to work with. When I had to interpret a poem, I choose a rather lengthy one so I had stuff to work with.


Interesting. So, what do you think the song is about? I thought the song's meaning was more literal and that I just was missing it, I guess not.

By the way, was the outfit in the video his nod to grunge? I was surprised when I bought the single and saw him in a plaid shirt with the sleeves cut off. I liked his Arsenio hall performance of TMP.

Whenever U say that U can't, that's when U need 2 be tryin'
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Reply #7 posted 10/05/08 7:04pm

Darwintheorgan
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setyrmindphree said:

Darwintheorgangrinder said:




The beauty of interpretation is that no one is ever really sure. I took a literature course where we had to do a lot of interpreting. We had to read a piece and write a paper explaining what we got out of it. There were no wrong answers. The goal was to show why you came to the conclusion that you reached.
Songs are a bit tougher, because there is much less to work with. When I had to interpret a poem, I choose a rather lengthy one so I had stuff to work with.


Interesting. So, what do you think the song is about? I thought the song's meaning was more literal and that I just was missing it, I guess not.

By the way, was the outfit in the video his nod to grunge? I was surprised when I bought the single and saw him in a plaid shirt with the sleeves cut off. I liked his Arsenio hall performance of TMP.


If I spent an hour or so I could examine all of the lyrics and come up with some grand theory, but I am in the watching the BoSox, so my interpreting skill would be compromised.
However, I am thinking of one line: "If they poured his heart into a glass and offered it like wine, she could drink and be back in time for the morning papers"

What I get from this is that the female in question holds a bit of power over the man. The fact that she could "drink" his entire heart in a relatively short period of time could mean that she is in complete control and that the man may worry that he would be unable to hold back an advance by the woman.

This was fun. We should start doing this more on the forums.

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Reply #8 posted 10/06/08 7:08am

darkknight10

Morning Papers is a sweet song,one of the best off of Symbol cd.

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Reply #9 posted 10/06/08 7:34am

Shorty

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Darwintheorgangrinder said:

setyrmindphree said:



Interesting. So, what do you think the song is about? I thought the song's meaning was more literal and that I just was missing it, I guess not.

By the way, was the outfit in the video his nod to grunge? I was surprised when I bought the single and saw him in a plaid shirt with the sleeves cut off. I liked his Arsenio hall performance of TMP.


If I spent an hour or so I could examine all of the lyrics and come up with some grand theory, but I am in the watching the BoSox, so my interpreting skill would be compromised.
However, I am thinking of one line: "If they poured his heart into a glass and offered it like wine, she could drink and be back in time for the morning papers"

What I get from this is that the female in question holds a bit of power over the man. The fact that she could "drink" his entire heart in a relatively short period of time could mean that she is in complete control and that the man may worry that he would be unable to hold back an advance by the woman.

This was fun. We should start doing this more on the forums.


the bosox eh? ahh....I see. actually I don't...your pic is just a red x in your profile. NH here!

Frick or Preat it is
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Reply #10 posted 10/06/08 7:35am

Shorty

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I don't know exactly what the song is about but to me it's obviously about LOVE.
it's a beautiful song the guitar in it has jerked a tear outta me on few occasions.

Frick or Preat it is
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Reply #11 posted 10/06/08 9:34am

Darwintheorgan
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Shorty said:

Darwintheorgangrinder said:



If I spent an hour or so I could examine all of the lyrics and come up with some grand theory, but I am in the watching the BoSox, so my interpreting skill would be compromised.
However, I am thinking of one line: "If they poured his heart into a glass and offered it like wine, she could drink and be back in time for the morning papers"

What I get from this is that the female in question holds a bit of power over the man. The fact that she could "drink" his entire heart in a relatively short period of time could mean that she is in complete control and that the man may worry that he would be unable to hold back an advance by the woman.

This was fun. We should start doing this more on the forums.


the bosox eh? ahh....I see. actually I don't...your pic is just a red x in your profile. NH here!


I have not been able to figure out how to add pictures or anything.

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Reply #12 posted 10/06/08 9:48am

Shorty

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Darwintheorgangrinder said:

Shorty said:



the bosox eh? ahh....I see. actually I don't...your pic is just a red x in your profile. NH here!


I have not been able to figure out how to add pictures or anything.


you gotta have your pics hosted on a pic hosting site like photo bucket or something similar. once you do it's rather easy. there might be a topic about it in the prince.org site discussion.
you from Boston?

Frick or Preat it is
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Reply #13 posted 10/06/08 9:58am

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he realized that she was new 2 love niave in every way

the song is his character realizing that his new love interest isn't like the other woman of his past and naive in how love works so he must tread carefully.


AND BOSTON RED SOX SUCK ASS!!!

I'm on the phone with Clarence Willliams III 2 bitch slap Prince again. Then I'm going 2 tie Prince up and let Apples have her revenge and bitchslap him again!
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Reply #14 posted 10/06/08 10:09am

Shorty

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L4OATheOriginal said:

he realized that she was new 2 love niave in every way

the song is his character realizing that his new love interest isn't like the other woman of his past and naive in how love works so he must tread carefully.


AND BOSTON RED SOX SUCK ASS!!!



lol your avatar sucks ass! falloff oh that's right...they are out of it already...right? hehehehe

Frick or Preat it is
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Reply #15 posted 10/06/08 10:51am

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Shorty said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

he realized that she was new 2 love niave in every way

the song is his character realizing that his new love interest isn't like the other woman of his past and naive in how love works so he must tread carefully.


AND BOSTON RED SOX SUCK ASS!!!



lol your avatar sucks ass! falloff oh that's right...they are out of it already...right? hehehehe



yeah it sucks alright ...rolleyes how dare i have a avatar of a team that won 26 championships err

and has knocked ur squad out the playoffs more than u can say "bucky fucking dent" "aaron fucking boone"

when y'all win multiple championships back 2 back ..come talk 2 me ...until then talk to the hand

I'm on the phone with Clarence Willliams III 2 bitch slap Prince again. Then I'm going 2 tie Prince up and let Apples have her revenge and bitchslap him again!
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Reply #16 posted 10/06/08 11:23am

Shorty

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L4OATheOriginal said:

Shorty said:




lol your avatar sucks ass! falloff oh that's right...they are out of it already...right? hehehehe



yeah it sucks alright ...rolleyes how dare i have a avatar of a team that won 26 championships err

and has knocked ur squad out the playoffs more than u can say "bucky fucking dent" "aaron fucking boone"

when y'all win multiple championships back 2 back ..come talk 2 me ...until then talk to the hand


hah! nana nana boo boo! razz sore loser!

Frick or Preat it is
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Reply #17 posted 10/06/08 11:32am

setyrmindphree

Did you guys turn to the sports section of the MORNING PAPERS? lol

I love threads on the org, they can, will and do go anywhere. Love it biggrin

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Reply #18 posted 10/06/08 12:15pm

Darwintheorgan
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Shorty said:

Darwintheorgangrinder said:



I have not been able to figure out how to add pictures or anything.


you gotta have your pics hosted on a pic hosting site like photo bucket or something similar. once you do it's rather easy. there might be a topic about it in the prince.org site discussion.
you from Boston?


L40A, do you realize that you just engaged in an argument with me about baseball, yet I never even said anything or replied to you. That is pretty lame.

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Reply #19 posted 10/06/08 12:45pm

Shorty

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Darwintheorgangrinder said:

Shorty said:



you gotta have your pics hosted on a pic hosting site like photo bucket or something similar. once you do it's rather easy. there might be a topic about it in the prince.org site discussion.
you from Boston?


L40A, do you realize that you just engaged in an argument with me about baseball, yet I never even said anything or replied to you. That is pretty lame.


I'm confused...lol you quoted me and you yet spoke to L40A...perhaps cause his first bosox comment was to you? ahh...either way he's just bitter. lol
I hope l40A knows I'm just ribbing him?

Frick or Preat it is
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Reply #20 posted 10/06/08 1:10pm

L4OATheOrigina
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Shorty said:

L4OATheOriginal said:




yeah it sucks alright ...rolleyes how dare i have a avatar of a team that won 26 championships err

and has knocked ur squad out the playoffs more than u can say "bucky fucking dent" "aaron fucking boone"

when y'all win multiple championships back 2 back ..come talk 2 me ...until then talk to the hand


hah! nana nana boo boo! razz sore loser!


nothing 2 b sore about ..we have a nice new stadium opening up next spring while u'll still b in the crappy confines of ur ballpark nana

and correct me if i'm wrong but who was going around 4 86 years talking about some "curse" hah! there never was a curse, ur team was, still and will continue 2 JUST SUCK!!! tease

I'm on the phone with Clarence Willliams III 2 bitch slap Prince again. Then I'm going 2 tie Prince up and let Apples have her revenge and bitchslap him again!
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Reply #21 posted 10/06/08 1:11pm

L4OATheOrigina
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Darwintheorgangrinder said:

Shorty said:



you gotta have your pics hosted on a pic hosting site like photo bucket or something similar. once you do it's rather easy. there might be a topic about it in the prince.org site discussion.
you from Boston?


L40A, do you realize that you just engaged in an argument with me about baseball, yet I never even said anything or replied to you. That is pretty lame.



well i was just talking with mookie wilson the other day ya know ..falloff

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Reply #22 posted 10/06/08 1:13pm

L4OATheOrigina
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Shorty said:

Darwintheorgangrinder said:



L40A, do you realize that you just engaged in an argument with me about baseball, yet I never even said anything or replied to you. That is pretty lame.


I'm confused...lol you quoted me and you yet spoke to L40A...perhaps cause his first bosox comment was to you? ahh...either way he's just bitter. lol
I hope l40A knows I'm just ribbing him?



yeah i know ur ribbing me and it's all good ..xcuse me while i go talk 2 my man tori hunter about whooping ur teams ass 2night ..mobile

I'm on the phone with Clarence Willliams III 2 bitch slap Prince again. Then I'm going 2 tie Prince up and let Apples have her revenge and bitchslap him again!
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Reply #23 posted 10/06/08 1:33pm

boxerboy

world championships....you've got to laugh

L4OATheOriginal said:

Shorty said:




lol your avatar sucks ass! falloff oh that's right...they are out of it already...right? hehehehe



yeah it sucks alright ...rolleyes how dare i have a avatar of a team that won 26 championships err

and has knocked ur squad out the playoffs more than u can say "bucky fucking dent" "aaron fucking boone"

when y'all win multiple championships back 2 back ..come talk 2 me ...until then talk to the hand

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Reply #24 posted 10/06/08 2:12pm

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heart

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Reply #25 posted 10/06/08 2:23pm

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boxerboy said:

world championships....you've got to laugh

L4OATheOriginal said:




yeah it sucks alright ...rolleyes how dare i have a avatar of a team that won 26 championships err

and has knocked ur squad out the playoffs more than u can say "bucky fucking dent" "aaron fucking boone"

when y'all win multiple championships back 2 back ..come talk 2 me ...until then talk to the hand


well besides the united states, canada, the domican republic, cuba, other spanish island countries and japan, who else plays baseball in the world?

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Reply #26 posted 10/06/08 2:41pm

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He might be saying that he'd have his hands full
with this "schoolboy's fantasy"...in another words,
if she got a full taste of him, she'd be back on his doorstep
every morning for more.

Just my twocents

It doesn't matter
what did or did not happen then.
It only matters what happens now.
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Reply #27 posted 10/07/08 5:59am

Darwintheorgan
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obsessed said:

He might be saying that he'd have his hands full
with this "schoolboy's fantasy"...in another words,
if she got a full taste of him, she'd be back on his doorstep
every morning for more.

Just my twocents


Very insightful interpretation. Thanks for redirecting the tread away from the silliness that ensued.

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Reply #28 posted 10/07/08 6:10am

Shorty

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Darwintheorgangrinder said:

obsessed said:

He might be saying that he'd have his hands full
with this "schoolboy's fantasy"...in another words,
if she got a full taste of him, she'd be back on his doorstep
every morning for more.

Just my twocents


Very insightful interpretation. Thanks for redirecting the tread away from the silliness that ensued.



I'm sorry for threadjacking! sad
and yeah...that was a great interpretation....I think you got it.

Frick or Preat it is
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Reply #29 posted 10/07/08 6:30am

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It's a beautiful song, but I don't think the lyrics would go down to well in this Paedogeddon climate if it was better known. Never thought the lyrics were particularly vague.

It's a song about how annoyed he is with reports in the press about him being with a girl half his age, and how they miss the point of true love as he sees it. And it's nicely done via the various romantic things he and his lover do on the way to get The Morning Papers, which, we find out at the end, is the cause of his concern to begin with.

However… Prince is also singing about a minor form of 'grooming', which is enough to get him banged up in several countries probably. The meaning of the 'schoolboy fantasy' line is given afterwards. 'That's why he had to wait' means she was underage initially. The schoolboys were in her classroom! It's been indicated in the past that he has met girls (legally children, at least in America) and has retained some form of contact until they were 'legal' (including his once future bride Mayte, who he was singing about, which should remove any ambiguity right there). For a guy who wouldn't last 10 minutes even in a juvenile female detention facility for the bed-ridden, he seems to take the age thing very seriously. See 'Peach' where the line 'She was young' is followed by the sound of a vehicle hitting the brakes!

But the prior act of maintaining contact with a minor with a view to future procreation would get him in big trouble these days. The irony is that he handed 'the morning papers' a goldmine of scandal there, but they didn't pick up on it.

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