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Thread started 07/18/07 7:22am

tricky99

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How do u tell a bad review of a Prince album?

1) somewhere it will mention "pint sized" or small or tiny. 30 years in every one knows he is short what's the point?

2) "This album is a return to form" or "this album doesn't compare to Purple Rain".

3) "the album is self-indulgent" - makes absolutely no sense. who is prince supposed to indulge? And what does that "other" indulgence sound like? So "computer blue" and "the beautiful ones" aren't self-indulgent right?

4) some mention of "the artist formally known as....". Okay he's been Prince again for 8 years.

5) The album is hit or miss. when really was a Prince album not hit or miss depending on the listeners specific taste. The only reason Purple Rain is not considered hit or miss is because the hugeness of the event tends to gloss over the individual tracks people may like less than others.

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Reply #1 posted 07/18/07 7:29am

HamsterHuey

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Reply #2 posted 07/18/07 7:33am

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I've always hated the word "revisits"; i.e. Prince revisits his old sound.


Also the "..just as good as Purple Rain" or "better than Purple Rain".
Eech release should be measured on it's own merits not repeatedly compared as if they are the same scale of measurement. You can't compare Schinder's List to Close Encounters even though they have the same director. If someone said Saving Private Ryan just as good as Jaws, you'd call them crazy. Even though it the same director, They are entirely different levels of expression and different stories.
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Reply #3 posted 07/18/07 7:40am

HamsterHuey

Common, just like you are putting reviews in a box, reviewers do just that to make a review understandable for the masses.

Prince will always be judged on the prejudice people sport about him, like 'the purple midget' and his biggest works. I see Sign O The Times pop up alot in reviews of Planet Earth, but I understand.

It's his own fault for letting these things linger by staying safely put in his non-communcative world.

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Reply #4 posted 07/18/07 8:49am

tricky99

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HamsterHuey said:

Common, just like you are putting reviews in a box, reviewers do just that to make a review understandable for the masses.

Prince will always be judged on the prejudice people sport about him, like 'the purple midget' and his biggest works. I see Sign O The Times pop up alot in reviews of Planet Earth, but I understand.

It's his own fault for letting these things linger by staying safely put in his non-communcative world.


u are really quite annoying. Are u a reviewer yourself? U seem kinda defensive. Its always Prince's fault right. I've seen quite a few interviews with him in the last decade. I doubt that has anything to do with how they review his work.

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Reply #5 posted 07/18/07 9:24am

HamsterHuey

tricky99 said:

HamsterHuey said:

Common, just like you are putting reviews in a box, reviewers do just that to make a review understandable for the masses.

Prince will always be judged on the prejudice people sport about him, like 'the purple midget' and his biggest works. I see Sign O The Times pop up alot in reviews of Planet Earth, but I understand.

It's his own fault for letting these things linger by staying safely put in his non-communcative world.


u are really quite annoying. Are u a reviewer yourself? U seem kinda defensive. Its always Prince's fault right. I've seen quite a few interviews with him in the last decade. I doubt that has anything to do with how they review his work.


Now who is defensive? If you are not up to ALL opinions, don't start a thread. It just is kinda telling you like to put everything in boxes yourself, then blame reviewers for doing the same. I just found it a bit funny.

Thanks for calling me annoying, I would call it 'having an opinion' myself.

And I do not blame 'everything' on Prince; some reviews are somewhat digging deeper than others; as are Prince's songs, some go somewhat deeper than others. There's a market for all of them.
I kind of blame shallow reviews on the fact that Prince keeps a shallow report with the press. What comes around goes around.

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Reply #6 posted 07/18/07 9:31am

HamsterHuey

tricky99 said:

I've seen quite a few interviews with him in the last decade. I doubt that has anything to do with how they review his work.


The I know how it works for everyone poster?

I think it's a devaluation of Prince.

wink

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Reply #7 posted 07/18/07 9:32am

HamsterHuey

PS, I am a JT IS BETTER THAN PRINCE poster today.

I will go back to GENERALLY SLUTTY POSTER tomorrow, promise.

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Reply #8 posted 07/18/07 10:25am

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HamsterHuey said:

tricky99 said:



u are really quite annoying. Are u a reviewer yourself? U seem kinda defensive. Its always Prince's fault right. I've seen quite a few interviews with him in the last decade. I doubt that has anything to do with how they review his work.


Now who is defensive? If you are not up to ALL opinions, don't start a thread. It just is kinda telling you like to put everything in boxes yourself, then blame reviewers for doing the same. I just found it a bit funny.

Thanks for calling me annoying, I would call it 'having an opinion' myself.



thanx for bring vinegar to a keg party.
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Reply #9 posted 07/18/07 11:55am

shayde

I think you mean "rapport", not "report" in regards to Prince's relationship to the press.

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Reply #10 posted 07/18/07 12:04pm

krayzie

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tricky99 said:

How do u tell a bad review of a Prince album?


When they say "this is the best Prince album since Sign O The times" lol

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Reply #11 posted 07/18/07 6:04pm

wlcm2thdwn

The article still calls him "The artist formerly known as Prince"! That pissess me off mad

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Reply #12 posted 07/18/07 9:16pm

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Uses "formally" instead of "formerly". If a review is gonna fill space by using the old name, at least do it right!

see #4 on your list. wink

"What kind of fuck ending is that?"
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Reply #13 posted 07/18/07 9:22pm

HamsterHuey

whendovescry2000 said:

HamsterHuey said:



Now who is defensive? If you are not up to ALL opinions, don't start a thread. It just is kinda telling you like to put everything in boxes yourself, then blame reviewers for doing the same. I just found it a bit funny.

Thanks for calling me annoying, I would call it 'having an opinion' myself.



thanx for bring vinegar to a keg party.



You're welcome, I hope someone brought some sweet sauce, cuz there's alot of sourness.

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Reply #14 posted 07/18/07 9:27pm

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"I'VE GOT A MIND FULL OF GOOD INTENTIONS
AND A MOUTH FULL OF RAISINETS..."

---------------Mr. Goodnight
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Reply #15 posted 07/18/07 9:29pm

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Common, just like you are putting reviews in a box, reviewers do just that to make a review understandable for the masses.


Reviewers are basically useless. You could, and often do, get dozens of opposing reviews about the same album. People should make up their own mind--in this digital age of piracy and online music--it is just being lazy to let a reviewer influence your decision one way or another. Your opinion on what is good/bad in music is all that counts.



It's his own fault for letting these things linger by staying safely put in his non-communcative world.


Prince, or any artist, doesn't have to (and shouldn't usually) justify/explain their art for people--especially for critics.

Nothing kills the mood more than having someone "explain" to you A. What the art is about and B. If it is "good" or "bad".
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"I'VE GOT A MIND FULL OF GOOD INTENTIONS
AND A MOUTH FULL OF RAISINETS..."

---------------Mr. Goodnight
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Reply #16 posted 07/18/07 10:09pm

Shapeshifter

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skywalker said:



Common, just like you are putting reviews in a box, reviewers do just that to make a review understandable for the masses.


Reviewers are basically useless. You could, and often do, get dozens of opposing reviews about the same album. People should make up their own mind--in this digital age of piracy and online music--it is just being lazy to let a reviewer influence your decision one way or another. Your opinion on what is good/bad in music is all that counts.



It's his own fault for letting these things linger by staying safely put in his non-communcative world.


Prince, or any artist, doesn't have to (and shouldn't usually) justify/explain their art for people--especially for critics.

Nothing kills the mood more than having someone "explain" to you A. What the art is about and B. If it is "good" or "bad".
[Edited 7/18/07 21:30pm]


I completely agree with you. Elvis Costello compared writing about musicto "dancing about architecture", and he's right.

There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently
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Reply #17 posted 07/18/07 10:37pm

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tricky99 said:

How do u tell a bad review of a Prince album?

1) somewhere it will mention "pint sized" or small or tiny. 30 years in every one knows he is short what's the point?



right on.. check this out... lol

http://www.prince.org/msg/7/235196


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