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Reply #180 posted 07/24/07 10:14am

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Anji said:

Lion of Judah is one of my absolute favourite moments on Planet Earth. But to be honest, there are so many. I am thorougly enjoying it.

A friend and I were discussing this album and his excitement is captured here.

Clearly something has been oiled. I'm not sure if it's the production, the songwriting, the editing, or all of the above, but he seems to be back to challenging himself in the studio the same way he has been live. Simply fantastic.


There might not be any greatest songs of the decade like with "When Doves Cry" or "Purple Rain", but right now there are too many high points to mention (perhaps 8 or even 9 out of 10).

There are currently no low points, unless you mean relative to the best songs. And I wasn't very sure at all at first about the inclusion of at least 3 tracks. Fortunately my first impressions proved to be deeply flawed again.

Everything here is so on fire, so fantastically freeing,
so utterly consistent, so right on my loose pocket change -- just like that guy who served up “Fury” for the masses on Saturday Night live.

If he doesn’t perform all or nearly all of these 10 tracks in London, something is terribly askew; especially after giving the album away to nearly 3 million folks.

Many of these tracks could make their legend live. A few of these tracks might even become concert staples.

It’s been quite a few years since I’ve gone from near dread to thinking that another seminal work might be afoot, but that’s exactly what’s happened with “Lion”.

Sleep can be reduced. My ears can find solace later.

Right now I’m just another gypsy beggar down on the cold bathroom tiles desperately seeking a lift; I’m “The Word” set to the motion of James Dean.

Perhaps some of the newness will always be exciting, but I do believe that when the dust settles we have a terribly complete album, one absolutely filled to the gills with greatness.

In many ways this is the record that “The Gold Experience” is and could have been if he hadn’t sat on it for so many months.

“There is no song on the album that feels like it might be lacking compared to a live performance.”

That’s exactly it. If he outdoes himself here live, I don’t care, because I have perfect studio productions. Unlike “Fury” where I felt it was all very good on record, but I’d much rather be listening to the version he produced on SNL.

However, there are several tracks I’d love to here in their extended form. I doubt I’ll get them, just like I doubt the album artwork will be good anytime soon.

“I would even go so far as to say that this album stands shoulder to shoulder with the likes of The Rainbow Children and Lovesexy in terms of studio delivery.”

Truly. The production on these albums is effortless sounding, freeing, energizing. I’m in a smoky jazz club, I’m driving down the expressway with my hair flapping in the wind, I’m feeling Chelsea’s ass as it’s being shaken (never stirred).

“All The Midnights” was one of the tracks that missed me originally, so did “Mr. Goodnight”. And as you might guess, “Lion” sounded awfully whiny to me. Well, little did I know, his vocal delivery is supposed to be near tears. That’s precisely why I don’t put a whole lot of stock into first impressions.

They’re interesting, but they rarely speak any kind of lasting truth.

And now “All The Midnights” ranks with his greatest segue songs, like “Starfish” and “Under the Cherry Moon”.
I don’t know whose best (I’ll leave that for the scientists), but all of this stuff just floats on thin air.

“As for high points, where does one start? Each song has pearls of poetry and pop prowess skillfully interwoven.”

Exactly. That’s why it didn’t even bother to start.

As stupid as it might sound right now, 8 or 9 of these tracks might be great, or at least near great.

I usually don’t care, especially when he is thousands of miles away. But he simply must play this entire record in concert. It’s that good.

We don’t need another hidden treasure. This one should be aired live.


headbang


I feel the same about the things I've made bold.

There is a level of comfort and freedom, along with a certain amount of musical boldness, and vocal and lyrical styles that have come out of hibernation.
"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #181 posted 07/24/07 12:24pm

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Did anyone already mention that the opening chord is almost a carbon copy of the same in "Purple Rain?"

(thanks, had to get that out before I read through the other 100+ comments!)

BTW, Someone posted an article over at HQ that quoted Wendy as stating that hers and Lisa's contributions to this album were sent in as overdubs via e-mail.

(or, did someone already mention that, too?)

Anyways,
Prost!beer
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we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #182 posted 07/24/07 1:10pm

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He got Wendy to play the Purple Rain opening chord? confused Actually I kind of like the song. I like the lushness of the harmonies, ant that they're other voices than just Prince.
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Reply #183 posted 07/24/07 1:35pm

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hav u had ur + sign 2 day.
eye wish u heaven
worship GOD
prince
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Reply #184 posted 07/24/07 4:08pm

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theums said:

Love the "Revolution" sound...
Hate the title and religious imagery.
Was better off using metaphors like elevators rather than specifics that may be offensive to some


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Reply #185 posted 07/24/07 4:42pm

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This one has gotten the most play for me lately. I love it when Prince gives us these rare glimpses that he is actually human, as opposed to the braggadocio badass that fronts most of his songs! Prince isn't assuming anything here, and I love it.
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Reply #186 posted 07/24/07 5:13pm

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My favourite on the album!

much better than chelsea
small circles, big wheels!
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Reply #187 posted 07/24/07 6:25pm

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Great guitar and drums! I am feeling this one.
We all want the stuff that's found in our wildest dreams.

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Reply #188 posted 07/25/07 7:16am

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Hated it and not for the lyrics. I don't care anything about lyrics anyway. I hated the way it sounded. It sounded weak.
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #189 posted 07/25/07 7:44am

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vainandy said:

Hated it and not for the lyrics. I don't care anything about lyrics anyway. I hated the way it sounded. It sounded weak.

why don't you go and take the day off.

the strength of this war song is in its honest contemplation and acceptance of fear.
This contemplating precedes any concious and decisive action in the midst of battle.
And if you're not fighting then you must be a walk-over because the war is going on.
At times self-doubt can can bring the situation into perspective, and this having things in perspective, clears the field and enables intelligent action.

Well, maybe you ought to go and get some action for your old boy. Afterwards you can calm down and enjoy thisamazing song lol
small circles, big wheels!
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Reply #190 posted 07/25/07 7:55am

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Rightly said:

vainandy said:

Hated it and not for the lyrics. I don't care anything about lyrics anyway. I hated the way it sounded. It sounded weak.

why don't you go and take the day off.

the strength of this war song is in its honest contemplation and acceptance of fear.
This contemplating precedes any concious and decisive action in the midst of battle.
And if you're not fighting then you must be a walk-over because the war is going on.
At times self-doubt can can bring the situation into perspective, and this having things in perspective, clears the field and enables intelligent action.

Well, maybe you ought to go and get some action for your old boy. Afterwards you can calm down and enjoy thisamazing song lol


I'm sure the lyrics are pretty good. However, lyrics are secondary to me. The music behind the lyrics is what catches my ear first in a song. Was that an accoustical guitar in the song? That ruins the whole song for me because I don't like anything that even resembles country or folk music in the slightest.
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #191 posted 07/25/07 8:57am

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it's the vocal stylings on this whole album that makes me think that prince is losing the strength in his singing . I noticed it on the vegas shows as well.

with that sad, the only good parts of this song is the backing vocals of wendy and lisa (but i still wish they weren't on this album)
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #192 posted 07/25/07 10:12am

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L4OATheOriginal said:

it's the vocal stylings on this whole album that makes me think that prince is losing the strength in his singing . I noticed it on the vegas shows as well.

with that sad, the only good parts of this song is the backing vocals of wendy and lisa (but i still wish they weren't on this album)



SHOE and FBM as well as recent live stuff show that he still sings just like he did 20+ years ago.

I find it strange that some people cannot see the strength of the vocals on this one. Not the technical strength, but the strong in the sense that they perfectly convey the emotions of the song.
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Reply #193 posted 07/25/07 11:30am

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Fucking incredible cut
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Reply #194 posted 07/25/07 12:37pm

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calldapplwondery83 said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

it's the vocal stylings on this whole album that makes me think that prince is losing the strength in his singing . I noticed it on the vegas shows as well.

with that sad, the only good parts of this song is the backing vocals of wendy and lisa (but i still wish they weren't on this album)



SHOE and FBM as well as recent live stuff show that he still sings just like he did 20+ years ago.

I find it strange that some people cannot see the strength of the vocals on this one. Not the technical strength, but the strong in the sense that they perfectly convey the emotions of the song.


call it weird but whenever i listen 2 his music i get visuals of how was doing it in the studio and his xpressions while either singing or playing, and I'm not feeling that vibe on this album. it's like a going through the motions type of deal as compared 2 the last 2 albums
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #195 posted 07/25/07 2:08pm

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L4OATheOriginal said:

calldapplwondery83 said:




SHOE and FBM as well as recent live stuff show that he still sings just like he did 20+ years ago.

I find it strange that some people cannot see the strength of the vocals on this one. Not the technical strength, but the strong in the sense that they perfectly convey the emotions of the song.


call it weird but whenever i listen 2 his music i get visuals of how was doing it in the studio and his xpressions while either singing or playing, and I'm not feeling that vibe on this album. it's like a going through the motions type of deal as compared 2 the last 2 albums

eek eek eek

OK, maybe on Chelsea Rodgers or The One U Wanna C but Lion of Judah is some of his most honest and emotional singing since ....I don´t know.
And his singing voice is still amazing, especially considering how many shows he´s still doing , sometimes two or three in a row.His voice is even better than ever. It wasn´t even really that developed before he had coaching during the making of Purple Rain....and today, he sounds even better, just listen to some ONA tour shows.
I can relate to what you´re saying about going through the motions, I often feel the same way when I hear stuff like Lolita or On The Couch or Satisfied but Lion of Judah ( and yes, also Cinnamon Girl ) sounds quite inspired , IMO.
He may not show his skills in all songs but it´s still there,still good, if not better than before.
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Reply #196 posted 07/25/07 5:48pm

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Another one that would probably kill live and benefits from the production. If the production on "Fury" had been this good, you might have something. As it stands, I'll slip it on short drives and play it on long ones.
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Reply #197 posted 07/25/07 6:55pm

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KoolEaze said:

L4OATheOriginal said:



call it weird but whenever i listen 2 his music i get visuals of how was doing it in the studio and his xpressions while either singing or playing, and I'm not feeling that vibe on this album. it's like a going through the motions type of deal as compared 2 the last 2 albums

eek eek eek

OK, maybe on Chelsea Rodgers or The One U Wanna C but Lion of Judah is some of his most honest and emotional singing since ....I don´t know.
And his singing voice is still amazing, especially considering how many shows he´s still doing , sometimes two or three in a row.His voice is even better than ever. It wasn´t even really that developed before he had coaching during the making of Purple Rain....and today, he sounds even better, just listen to some ONA tour shows.
I can relate to what you´re saying about going through the motions, I often feel the same way when I hear stuff like Lolita or On The Couch or Satisfied but Lion of Judah ( and yes, also Cinnamon Girl ) sounds quite inspired , IMO.
He may not show his skills in all songs but it´s still there,still good, if not better than before.


i have heard him sing better than on this album..even live his voice isn't as strong during some of the vegas shows. his singing is trying 2 rise above the music 2 me
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #198 posted 07/25/07 6:59pm

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- By far, my favorite song on the album is 'Lion of Judah' ('Mr Goodnight' was my first choice)

- Typical Prince album - It takes a few listening session to truly appreciate his genius. After I streamed the album on MSN the first day and second day, I thought it was a weak album - I was a bit disappointed.

- Now on 'Planet Earth' release day, I was at Barnes & Nobles and decided to sample the album again. for some reasons my ears were finally attuned to the album. I decided that I had to acquire then ($16.99 by the way). So I drove to the near Best Buy and grabbed the album for $9.99.

- We all have our genre preferences, our expectations of a new Prince album cause us to prejudge the album even as we listen to it the first time. We tend to pick a couple songs off the album that meet our expectation and skip some others. My first impressions were rooted in my funk (or funk/rock) preferences. Thus, I labeled the album as being a weak one. But once I realized this was a rock emphasized album, I began to appreciate the songs more and his genius as well. See! Prince forces us to be exposed to new genres, new facets of music, irregardless of current radio standards. There lies the man's genius, Folks! Allways new , always fresh.

- This is when I exclaimed that 'Planet Earth' was indeed a Great rock oriented album.

- At $1 a song (or 0.16 pounds in UK), my boy, Prince is sending a strong message to the recording establishment.

- Now, I dare say that my least favorite song is 'All the Midnights in the world' (hey, I just got to have one)

- Now, Prince, no more 10-cut cds please. It's good value, but after waiting a year, fams desire more songs to last the year.
Aaah! The days of 18+ Prince songs per cds, double or triple cd sets, are gone apparently. (sarcastically, of course)

- I am still enjoying and uncorvering this album

- Time for a Double CD set, Prince

- Thanks Prince

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Reply #199 posted 07/25/07 9:04pm

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Reply #200 posted 07/26/07 2:41am

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listen to the song at 1:09 with headphones... confused
What do you hear ???? neutral

some handclaps confused
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Reply #201 posted 07/26/07 4:22am

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This song was already released 3 years ago only then it was called "Cinnamon Girl" BOOOOORING
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Reply #202 posted 07/26/07 5:07am

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DaisyHall said:

This song was already released 3 years ago only then it was called "Cinnamon Girl" BOOOOORING


Huh? It sounds nothing like "Cinnamon Girl"!
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Reply #203 posted 07/26/07 10:05am

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wizard said:

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- Now on 'Planet Earth' release day, I was at Barnes & Nobles and decided to sample the album again. for some reasons my ears were finally attuned to the album. I decided that I had to acquire then ($16.99 by the way). So I drove to the near Best Buy and grabbed the album for $9.99.

- We all have our genre preferences, our expectations of a new Prince album cause us to prejudge the album even as we listen to it the first time. We tend to pick a couple songs off the album that meet our expectation and skip some others. My first impressions were rooted in my funk (or funk/rock) preferences. Thus, I labeled the album as being a weak one. But once I realized this was a rock emphasized album, I began to appreciate the songs more and his genius as well. See! Prince forces us to be exposed to new genres, new facets of music, irregardless of current radio standards. There lies the man's genius, Folks! Allways new , always fresh.

- Now, Prince, no more 10-cut cds please. It's good value, but after waiting a year, fams desire more songs to last the year.
Aaah! The days of 18+ Prince songs per cds, double or triple cd sets, are gone apparently. (sarcastically, of course)



- Time for a Double CD set, Prince


The Wizard


don't u just hate crack dealers (barnes and noble and other high priced music retailers)?

i appreciate u'r words and xpressions on how we come 2 a prince album with our xpectations and such and I as well come from the funk side of town.

however, as much as i like guitar jams and such ...i can't find it with this album. now i know how people felt with chaos and disorder ..but even that album is a masterpiece compared 2 this junk ...

yes no more 10 song albums lasting 45 mins ..go in2 the vault ..lay it on us ..where's that cyrstal ball II u've been saying since the 1st celebration?
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #204 posted 07/26/07 5:58pm

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Moonbeam said:

DaisyHall said:

This song was already released 3 years ago only then it was called "Cinnamon Girl" BOOOOORING


Huh? It sounds nothing like "Cinnamon Girl"!


You really think not? I think it sounds VERY similar...especially the opening part...

This is my least favorite song on the CD...and it's still a good song.
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Reply #205 posted 07/26/07 6:05pm

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You really think not? I think it sounds VERY similar...especially the opening part...
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Reply #206 posted 07/27/07 5:00am

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My neighbour was complaining because i had this up too loud earlier lol ..But if you listen to this song at a generous volume it is shiver up the spine material.
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Reply #207 posted 07/27/07 8:17am

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scandalousalan said:

My neighbour was complaining because i had this up too loud earlier lol ..But if you listen to this song at a generous volume it is shiver up the spine material.



yeah i got that feeling 2 ..as in i can't belive how lame this album is type shiver and i had it at probably half the volume u did .so i dare not blare it at top volume cause i might just have my head blown off ala the movie scanners
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Reply #208 posted 07/27/07 8:57am

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This is probably my second favourite song on the album.
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Reply #209 posted 07/27/07 2:11pm

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Admiting when I first heard the name of this song, I thought it would be very different than what it is actually is, but after hearing the lyrics, it made me happy,because the song gives praise to the man above, and that is what life should be about.
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