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Prince to launch album as free newspaper giveaway http://business.guardian.co.uk
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I am sure all the old aged pensioners, who go down on Sunday mornings 2 the local news-stands for their Mail On Sundays are gonna b happy with a free copy of Planet Earth!!!!! |
Desire2006 said: I am sure all the old aged pensioners, who go down on Sunday mornings 2 the local news-stands for their Mail On Sundays are gonna b happy with a free copy of Planet Earth!!!!!
They can listen 2 it over their Sunday morning fry-ups!!!!
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So which Sunday will have it. If before the worldwide release it must be either this Sunday which is very very doubtful, or maybe the 8th or likely the 15th, but by then some European countries will have it and also I believe Australia.
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talk about six degrees...susannah melvoin is featured on tubular bells. Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. |
The entire point of it all is that the music industry, as we know it, is dead...
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I think hard copy CDs r definitely becoming a thing of the past.
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Haha let them complain all they want, I kinda like the idea. More power to Prince for doing whatever the fuck he wants (or so it seems). Coolness Personified. |
Forgetting record sales and the politics of it all...
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Yeah boy! Do you! Inside of Me, I am Free, Free to be Me. |
Greed is not a good thing. Prince really changed up his game a few years back with Musicology. These stunts keep his name in the press and keep people talking about Prince. Building up his fan base!!
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I think this idea is great and it shows once again P is in control,this move shows his condemnation for the music industry, at least in the conventional sense. As he pointed out many years ago the music biz has changed and not for the better for most artists. P surprises us and the industry as a whole. Good 4 U P! |
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God I love Prince. Just when you think you've got things figured out, he does something completely off the wall. The enigma is well at work! "I'm a lover, not a haitcher"- Pandurito
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personally, i don't think Prince has anything more to prove.
Ludwig: You find yourself amusing, Blackadder.
Blackadder: I try not to fly in the face of public opinion. |
Moonbeam said: God I love Prince. Just when you think you've got things figured out, he does something completely off the wall. The enigma is well at work!
  so this is for sure? |
Shhh747 said: Moonbeam said: God I love Prince. Just when you think you've got things figured out, he does something completely off the wall. The enigma is well at work!
so this is for sure?It appears that way. Other threads popped up saying that Planet Earth had been "deleted" by several UK online outlets. Then there were the rumors of the newspaper giveaway. Now there are the articles supporting it. I love Prince! "I'm a lover, not a haitcher"- Pandurito
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Haystack said: Forgetting record sales and the politics of it all...
This must surely be a Prince fan's dream? A new Prince CD given away before its supposed release date and for free if you buy a newspaper for £1.40. This'll be the most wonderfully perverse initial release for a new Prince album that I've ever bought.  |
Question for music biz insiders: Would Prince have to have permission from Sony to release the album this way ? |
its mad, its perverse...yet i love it!! How many artists would actually have the balls to do that?? It's a total "fuck you" to all the wrongs of the music industry.
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I LOVE PRINCE!XXX **NPGMC refugee** |
euro bitches better be sharing the love with that! Christian Zombie Vampires |
Desire2006 said: I am sure all the old aged pensioners, who go down on Sunday mornings 2 the local news-stands for their Mail On Sundays are gonna b happy with a free copy of Planet Earth!!!!!
They can listen 2 it over their Sunday morning fry-ups!!!!
[Edited 6/28/07 13:46pm] Listen to it while munching on a Bap! Christian Zombie Vampires |
Well, I am suprised.
small circles, big wheels!
I've got a pretty firm grip on the obvious! |
muleFunk said: Question for music biz insiders: Would Prince have to have permission from Sony to release the album this way ?
From the reaction of the label, it doesn't appear Prince needed permission... since they were caught by surprise from it. Which would seem to indicate that Prince's deal w/ the label has very little strings attached, indeed. He can apparently do whatever the heck he wants, which is pretty darn cool. He deals w/ the labels on HIS terms these days. |
So sorry to all of you in the UK... but how come when prince has concerts in the uk the tickets are about under 100$ and when he comes to LA theyre over $1000? And we dont get free CD's in the New York Times.... AND he is scheduled to appear on the UK Big Brother... hmmm |
Rightly said: Well, I am suprised.
Nice move from the skinny mutha fooka with the high voice! All hail Partyman! omg, ur avatar i so scary. 
... oh, and a  to Prince... but only if he does it here in the States as well.  |
newskin69 said: its mad, its perverse...yet i love it!! How many artists would actually have the balls to do that?? It's a total "fuck you" to all the wrongs of the music industry.
First Paul signs with Starbucks, now Prince gives away CDs with newspapers..hopefully these show current artists that first and foremost, it's all about the music I agree. I love this kind of stuff. Prince, you gotta love him!perfection is a fallacy of the imagination... |
g3121 said: i think its an exposure thing to do with the 21 nights in london..4 of the shows are still not sold out yet..
i feel like its cheapening his music, sunday papers? the press? how unprince is that? hurumph. x still, a free newspaper copy and then a hard album copy, a funny kind of collectors edition to add to the collection is always nice 
its creative at least. Prince got screwed with his relationship with Warner Brothers. He lost some of his control which is probably why he started writing the word "slave" on his face the last couple of albums under contract with them. When he was finally released from WB he was on a mission to have full total control with his music AND it's distribution (Crystal Ball through NPGMC). This was revolutionary for an A list artist such as himself. I believe Prince is willing to try other innovative ways to get his message and music out without letting the "white shirts" at the record companies get a cut of the money, especially when many of them have absolutly NOTHING to do with the creation of the projects. Prince is giving the record companies a big slap in the face with this move...more power to him! |
Who is John Galt? |
so whats the actual sunday it will go out in the newspaper.. date anyone? -X- WATCHING THE PENNIES SCATTER |
MuSicOloGyMoLLy said: So sorry to all of you in the UK... but how come when prince has concerts in the uk the tickets are about under 100$ and when he comes to LA theyre over $1000? And we dont get free CD's in the New York Times.... AND he is scheduled to appear on the UK Big Brother... hmmm
The LA concerts are for the rich celebrities and whoever has the money to fork the dough. When he plays arenas, he keeps it affordable. We had Musicology here and hopefully the Earth tour will make its way back to the states at affordable prices too. |
Wow , bizarre , still at least no-one can say Prince is in it for the money with THIS venture , and it'll take his music to a lot of new people I guess Check out Chocadelica , updated with Lotusflow3r and MPLSound album lyrics April 2nd 2009 :
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This is a brilliant marketing move but more than that its a brilliant artistic statement by a brilliant artist and man...
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moonshine said: Wow , bizarre , still at least no-one can say Prince is in it for the money with THIS venture , and it'll take his music to a lot of new people I guess
I gonna disagree with U on that. Prince is getting a cut in this whole deal. If you check the article again, it says something like the terms of the agreement was for an undisclosed amount. That news paper is gearing up to probably sell a record number of copies which ever Sunday it hits. Prince will probably snatch up a big chunk of the profits....and then some! |
2020 said: This is a brilliant marketing move but more than that its a brilliant artistic statement by a brilliant artist and man...
Love how he keeps stirring the pot... Keep stirring P! lol 
[Edited 6/28/07 21:02pm] I agree this is very HOT i love what he's doing someone gotta show the industry who's really in control. |
My only problem with this is his choice of paper. The Daily/Sunday Biggot (sorry, Mail) is the worst excuse for reactionary, biased, feckless journalism in the UK. If this does go ahead, it's going to really pain me to walk to my newsagent that Sunday morning and hand over my cash to buy a copy of the Mail. I think i'd rather pay for an import copy for the US.
I never smile because I'm too busy laughing. |
wow.. do you realize how many albums he's gonna "sell" with this stunt? I mean how many people buy newspapers a day??? millions of people! "When  want 2 hear new music, make it" Prince  |
i think this is a great idea! just like sales of Prince's back catalogue spiked right after his superbowl performance, i think that his back catalogue will 1nce again spike...that is, of course, if it's any good. but even still, it'll produce even more excitement about the concerts.
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Way to go Prince...
We can Funk!!!! |
We are stardust. We are golden.
Feb. 12th -28th: Two weeks of corporate and nationalistic dick-stroking in the guise of a sporting event. I can not wait. |
BombFunk said: Haha let them complain all they want, I kinda like the idea. More power to Prince for doing whatever the fuck he wants (or so it seems).
Well said. 100% AGREE! |
What's up with that UK thing suddenly. He never looked to the UK and was always in the Netherlands for his European releases and concerts. Now he's giving albums away in the UK.
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On the one hand, this is an awesome move from Prince, defying the conventions of business and industry in favor for the love of music.
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i'm very very very upset about this move. yes, it will get in alot of peoples hands but no one will listen to it, i hate those free cd's. no one in the music press will take this album seriously. he's just sentenced his new album to death (for me atleast). why could he have given it to the times, or the observer? anything but the bloody mail on sunday. the people who read that paper are discusting. |
This is very cool and all...
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Perhaps he was ill in4med, yet again, and he'll regret it. |
Styles said: The entire point of it all is that the music industry, as we know it, is dead...
Now its time to wake up and see the full potential of what can be done. To any artist who is reading this: "You don't have to go down on your knees in an office somewhere to make a record anymore" (c) John Lennon 1968 You can go directly to the consumer and if they have a taste of it and want more, they'll want to go out and get the real deal that, when purchased and put into the CPU, will give the rest of the experience! Therein, is a brilliant marketing stroke.... [Edited 6/28/07 16:53pm] Yeah. Like NPGMC. We know where this leads to: crappy downloads, and a good record, that no one knows (trc). |
Horntooter said: This is very cool and all...
But... THE MAIL ON SUNDAY?!?! It's a nasty nazi "they come over here and steal our jobs" kind of paper. Full of hate. Could have at least signed up with The Observer (Given it away with their Music Monthly editions... Along with a nice feature on the man) or The Indipendant. Hell... The Sunday Sport would have been better than the Mail!!! $$$$$'s, that's why. let's not forget that he's actually getting paid to 'give' this stuff away, they obviously give him the best price for the deal. |
boermacher said: What's up with that UK thing suddenly. He never looked to the UK and was always in the Netherlands for his European releases and concerts. Now he's giving albums away in the UK.
Loyal dutch fans will not be rewarded for their loyalty, but just have dig in their bankaccount.  He likes us the most, that's why! |
He should talk 2 McDonalds about including a CD in a 'Mr. Happy' meal. |
Its the Mail on Sunday that are making money here. They make $$$ through advertising, and of course higher sales/circulation through this "experiment".
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I still have a feeling this aint going to be a 'full blown' album, if it is though, I think another version, or better version will soon be available in the shops after the event.
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Horntooter said: This is very cool and all...
But... THE MAIL ON SUNDAY?!?! It's a nasty nazi "they come over here and steal our jobs" kind of paper. Full of hate. Could have at least signed up with The Observer (Given it away with their Music Monthly editions... Along with a nice feature on the man) or The Indipendant. Hell... The Sunday Sport would have been better than the Mail!!! I think it's the circulation and their familiarity with giving away CD's. It is half-way between a tabloid and a broadsheet. |
vinx98 said: Its the Mail on Sunday that are making money here. They make $$$ through advertising, and of course higher sales/circulation through this "experiment".
This is a blueprint for the future folks. Other big names will follow, Beyonce, JT, MJ, etc because the amount that the newspapers can provide the artist is HUGE. Prince is getting serious dough for this deal, more than if he sent his CD to retail. With next 2 nothing distribution costs. |
vinx98 said: Its the Mail on Sunday that are making money here. They make $$$ through advertising, and of course higher sales/circulation through this "experiment".
This is a blueprint for the future folks. Other big names will follow, Beyonce, JT, MJ, etc because the amount that the newspapers can provide the artist is HUGE. Prince is getting serious dough for this deal, more than if he sent his CD to retail. If the paper is only selling for £1.40, he is not making ANYWHERE near what he makes normally per unit, but, as he's obviously done a deal for lets say 3 million, he's probably getting paid around the same as if he shifted another 2-300,00 copies in the shops (remembering the fact that he was already giving away 400,000 copies away at the O2 gigs.) I aint done the sums, but he will benefit overall, maybe not instantly, but it will pay off. |
Surely the point is the where Prince is in the artist's life-cycle, he will no longer make any money from selling CDs. Artists like Prince, Celine Dion, Streisand, Rolling Stones etc make all their money from touring. Prince would never have made any real money from this CD release anyway, and neither would the retailers. The CD is just a vehicle to justify a tour. I'm sure it'll be a good album, because it's Prince, but i doubt many non hardcore Prince fans would have gone to buy it without a tour. This way casual fans get the album for free, Prince makes a point about the state of the record industry, and he might just sell a few more concert tickets, for what is let's face it a very very long stretch at a very large venue! -------------------------------------------------
"Got the butter 4 your muffin.." |
it might have been a better idea if he had announced this at the same time as he announced the 21 nights in London |
MuSicOloGyMoLLy said: So sorry to all of you in the UK... but how come when prince has concerts in the uk the tickets are about under 100$ and when he comes to LA theyre over $1000? And we dont get free CD's in the New York Times.... AND he is scheduled to appear on the UK Big Brother... hmmm
simple, he thinks we are better fans  |
I still play and treasure my cd's and I think this is a marverlous idea. Prince is killing it all over the world, Do it baby! |
This just smacks of desperation.
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bonedaddy said: vinx98 said: Its the Mail on Sunday that are making money here. They make $$$ through advertising, and of course higher sales/circulation through this "experiment".
This is a blueprint for the future folks. Other big names will follow, Beyonce, JT, MJ, etc because the amount that the newspapers can provide the artist is HUGE. Prince is getting serious dough for this deal, more than if he sent his CD to retail. If the paper is only selling for £1.40, he is not making ANYWHERE near what he makes normally per unit, but, as he's obviously done a deal for lets say 3 million, he's probably getting paid around the same as if he shifted another 2-300,00 copies in the shops (remembering the fact that he was already giving away 400,000 copies away at the O2 gigs.) I aint done the sums, but he will benefit overall, maybe not instantly, but it will pay off. its about the interest it generates anyway. UK is an influentual market, if Prince gets big (or bigger) in the UK, he will be "noticed" in Europe, Japan and the rest of the world. Not sure about the US (maybe he has given up on the US market??)... There are so many benefits to giving the CD away. Newspaper shifts more copies, advertising income will increase.. The 1.40 price is nothing. In London, METRO newspapers are free, and make huge profits only through advertising because their exposure is massive...The same can be said for the likes of Sunday papers. Its those big ads that make the cash cow moo.... I reckon there is more than 3-4 million for Prince here, I think it could be in the 5-10 million range. Add to this the money he will make from the London concerts, the costs of making the CD in the first place will be immaterial. Then there is the extra income through increased exposure and new fans... Prince has proven ability to keep fans once they are hooked. His back catalogue is massive and is for sale.. Therefore those who love Planet Earth, might start going to the record store to look for say, 3121 and Musicology.. those more adventurous will look for Lovesexy, Dirty Mind,etc.. Not that Columbia care about selling these records, but it's a win hands down for Prince. All this hard work, and he will be able to retire at the end of the year and do his "sabbatical" thingy.. not that this will last of course, Prince needs to keep making music, its part of his soul, he is addicted to it. |
Horntooter said: This is very cool and all...
But... THE MAIL ON SUNDAY?!?! It's a nasty nazi "they come over here and steal our jobs" kind of paper. Full of hate. Could have at least signed up with The Observer (Given it away with their Music Monthly editions... Along with a nice feature on the man) or The Indipendant. Hell... The Sunday Sport would have been better than the Mail!!! I agree, The Mail on Sunday??? What a bunch of right wing arseholes. Prince should steer clear of these facists. The Sunday Sport has a natural affinity with Prince - nice one! The album is called Planet Earth, and so it would be very cool that instead of an artist talking about 'how sad the Earth's demise is', whilst making a buck out of it. He makes no money, but brings the plight to the fore. Now that really would be nice - how much do you think Al Gore made off his DVD? |
unkleg said: Horntooter said: This is very cool and all...
But... THE MAIL ON SUNDAY?!?! It's a nasty nazi "they come over here and steal our jobs" kind of paper. Full of hate. Could have at least signed up with The Observer (Given it away with their Music Monthly editions... Along with a nice feature on the man) or The Indipendant. Hell... The Sunday Sport would have been better than the Mail!!! I agree, The Mail on Sunday??? What a bunch of right wing arseholes. Prince should steer clear of these facists. The Sunday Sport has a natural affinity with Prince - nice one! The album is called Planet Earth, and so it would be very cool that instead of an artist talking about 'how sad the Earth's demise is', whilst making a buck out of it. He makes no money, but brings the plight to the fore. Now that really would be nice - how much do you think Al Gore made off his DVD? I suspect that "the mail on sunday" trash as it may be is also the most popular Sunday paper so if it was put in any of the alternatives there could be alot more copies of the cd binned than distributed |
If this is true, and bear in mind that not everything printed in newspapers is - remember the Prince to play on Big Brother BS a few weeks back? - I think it's an incredibly bad idea.
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tainacher said: Styles said: The entire point of it all is that the music industry, as we know it, is dead...
Now its time to wake up and see the full potential of what can be done. To any artist who is reading this: "You don't have to go down on your knees in an office somewhere to make a record anymore" (c) John Lennon 1968 You can go directly to the consumer and if they have a taste of it and want more, they'll want to go out and get the real deal that, when purchased and put into the CPU, will give the rest of the experience! Therein, is a brilliant marketing stroke.... [Edited 6/28/07 16:53pm] Yeah. Like NPGMC. We know where this leads to: crappy downloads, and a good record, that no one knows (trc). Or better yet, undiscovered treasrues that everyone's been wanting forever and a day.... Just watch |
girl66 said: "And I say that to all the other artists who may be tempted to dally with the Mail on Sunday."
Prince, you know I adore you, but THE MAIL?! Yuck! It's one of the vilest, most disgusting excuses for a newspaper ever to grace the earth. I thought you had a social conscience? Got the look? |
I thought you had a social conscience?
Unless that's why you've chosen them? Although to be honest dear I'm not sure they'll get far enough into the first track for it to open up their minds... Got the look? |
Clearly the best thing I have ever heard of, George Michael would be proud of boldness.
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A truly brillant action. Maybe something similar will happen here in the US.
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CJK505 said: Clearly the best thing I have ever heard of, George Michael would be proud of boldness.
P never seems 2 amaze me, he is back!!!!! Koodos 2U P, koodos. By the way people from reading your posts, it's not about the paper, it's 4 us FANS. Not many artists have the balls to give their NEW release away, only P. If its about the fans, why not give it away on the website? As far as other artists not having the "balls" to give it the away, I would say they aren't stupid enough to give it away. The only message this move sends out to the general public is that no one wants his new studio material anymore. . |
unkleg said: Horntooter said: This is very cool and all...
But... THE MAIL ON SUNDAY?!?! It's a nasty nazi "they come over here and steal our jobs" kind of paper. Full of hate. Could have at least signed up with The Observer (Given it away with their Music Monthly editions... Along with a nice feature on the man) or The Indipendant. Hell... The Sunday Sport would have been better than the Mail!!! I agree, The Mail on Sunday??? What a bunch of right wing arseholes. Prince should steer clear of these facists. The Sunday Sport has a natural affinity with Prince - nice one! The album is called Planet Earth, and so it would be very cool that instead of an artist talking about 'how sad the Earth's demise is', whilst making a buck out of it. He makes no money, but brings the plight to the fore. Now that really would be nice - [b]how much do you think Al Gore made off his DVD? [/b] $0...Gore made nothing from the sales of his DVD..go look it up.In regards to Prince... "You do You, I do Me...Whatever!" song of the heart Prince. [Edited 6/29/07 6:31am] 1 over Jordan...the greatest since |
[b]Well what next, Great idea..But shame its the daily mail, I dont think any1 under 30 reads it and he stil needs radio play..I have only heard Guitar on radio erm 2 twice. Whitch is a catchy litle diddy however i miss the powerful songs such as sign o the times, America and P.Rain, Mr Man was close but but did'nt queit make it... |
SquirrelMeat said: If its about the fans, why not give it away on the website? IMO, a free dowloadable album will happen soon with the way things are changing in the music industry. It's all about # of hits when it comes to websites..and if Prince puts up a store with more downloadables for $$$$ and merch. Putting up an album to get the hits would make sense and cents. |
SquirrelMeat said: CJK505 said: Clearly the best thing I have ever heard of, George Michael would be proud of boldness.
P never seems 2 amaze me, he is back!!!!! Koodos 2U P, koodos. By the way people from reading your posts, it's not about the paper, it's 4 us FANS. Not many artists have the balls to give their NEW release away, only P. If its about the fans, why not give it away on the website? As far as other artists not having the "balls" to give it the away, I would say they aren't stupid enough to give it away. The only message this move sends out to the general public is that no one wants his new studio material anymore. Exactly. His new material is as disposable as a newspaper. |
tintin said: My only problem with this is his choice of paper. The Daily/Sunday Biggot (sorry, Mail) is the worst excuse for reactionary, biased, feckless journalism in the UK. If this does go ahead, it's going to really pain me to walk to my newsagent that Sunday morning and hand over my cash to buy a copy of the Mail. I think i'd rather pay for an import copy for the US.
TT. My feelings exactly. The Daily Mail is a horrendous paper aimed at the right wing middle classes of england. It prints sensationalist stories designed to perpetuate stereotypes of bourgois morality. Sorry if that sounds a little wanky, but they go against so much of what prince has stood for throughout his career. I really think ill probably buy the import. Anyho - regarding this covermount stuff. Its likely Prince has done some quick calculations and estimated that he can make more money signing a deal like this (probably for a fixed amount so he bears no risk), than he would make straight profit for allowing it to be sold via record shops. Anyone got any idea of his sales for 3121 in the UK? If its under 100k, you can bet he'll make more money doing a covermount. Im not being negative but i dont think this is a straight gesture to fans. I think its P playing with the system, and thinking of his own $ (or £ in this case). Its publicity to coincide with the tour, and its something he'll hardly have to promote at all - the paper will do all that for him. Still - he's hitting completely the wrong market cosying up with the Daily Mail. |
realm said: SquirrelMeat said: If its about the fans, why not give it away on the website? IMO, a free dowloadable album will happen soon with the way things are changing in the music industry. It's all about # of hits when it comes to websites..and if Prince puts up a store with more downloadables for $$$$ and merch. Putting up an album to get the hits would make sense and cents. Why do u think he shut down the NPGMC site? It'll b back, with a vengeance, just as soon as his final world tour is outta the way I think. That's when direct marketing will truly take over. Then all we'll have 2 worry about is whether someone flicks off the switch 2 the internet. |
ladycat said: girl66 said: "And I say that to all the other artists who may be tempted to dally with the Mail on Sunday."
Prince, you know I adore you, but THE MAIL?! Yuck! It's one of the vilest, most disgusting excuses for a newspaper ever to grace the earth. I thought you had a social conscience? oh, nvm [Edited 6/29/07 7:25am] Please take our Attention Deficit Disorder Test by filling out.........oh Look! Its Prince! |
SquirrelMeat said: This just smacks of desperation.
Only washed up artists have CDs given away with the mail on sunday. Too right. Should have been The Observer Music Monthly! ifyourbodyneedswaterkeepdancincuzuoughtakeepthebloodflowingdowntoyourfeet. |
mrsquirrel said: SquirrelMeat said: This just smacks of desperation.
Only washed up artists have CDs given away with the mail on sunday. Too right. Should have been The Observer Music Monthly! I think he comes up with some great ideas but has the wrong people executing them! Please take our Attention Deficit Disorder Test by filling out.........oh Look! Its Prince! |
Okay but regardless of whether Prince should:
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n Homer Simpson: "I call the big one Bitey"!! |
popgodazipa said: unkleg said: The album is called Planet Earth, and so it would be very cool that instead of an artist talking about 'how sad the Earth's demise is', whilst making a buck out of it. He makes no money, but brings the plight to the fore. Now that really would be nice - [b]how much do you think Al Gore made off his DVD? [/b] $0...Gore made nothing from the sales of his DVD..go look it up.In regards to Prince... "You do You, I do Me...Whatever!" song of the heart Prince. [Edited 6/29/07 6:31am] Ok I admit, I didn't know that about Gore, but you get my drift. There are a million and one artists who jump on the bandwagon of a good cause just to line their pockets. I think it IS refreshing (if true) that Prince might give away an album which might educate people about global chaos, not just it's warming. By the way, no I haven't heard it! |
If he wants to give it away, why not just 'leak' it to the internet? |
unkleg said: popgodazipa said: [/b] $0...Gore made nothing from the sales of his DVD..go look it up.In regards to Prince... "You do You, I do Me...Whatever!" song of the heart Prince. [Edited 6/29/07 6:31am] Ok I admit, I didn't know that about Gore, but you get my drift. There are a million and one artists who jump on the bandwagon of a good cause just to line their pockets. I think it IS refreshing (if true) that Prince might give away an album which might educate people about global chaos, not just it's warming. By the way, no I haven't heard it! I think Prince's albums have always educated about global chaos to some extent. One of the reasons why I have been a fan for so long is his political awareness and the fact that he's never been afraid to state his opinion - no matter how unpopular - about world issues. perfection is a fallacy of the imagination... |
tintin said: My only problem with this is his choice of paper. The Daily/Sunday Biggot (sorry, Mail) is the worst excuse for reactionary, biased, feckless journalism in the UK. If this does go ahead, it's going to really pain me to walk to my newsagent that Sunday morning and hand over my cash to buy a copy of the Mail. I think i'd rather pay for an import copy for the US.
TT. buy the rag, remove the CD and toss the paper back to the newsagent. Get what u came 4 and throw the rest back.... must be something in the water they drink.. |
I will be getting my copy but then using the newspaper as kitty litter |
Is there a date for when this is going to happen? |
I'm just grateful he didn't a free copy of PE in The Watchtower. |
So...would Prince be willing to give the CD away in the Seattle times as well? Wanna hear me sing? www.MySpace.com/RaniLovezYou |
Shhh747 said: Rightly said: Well, I am suprised.
Nice move from the skinny mutha fooka with the high voice! All hail Partyman! omg, ur avatar i so scary.
... oh, and a to Prince... but only if he does it here in the States as well. I'm with you on that one!  |
i dont like this at all and why are the calling him "the artist formerly known as Prince"
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purplonia said: and why are the calling him "the artist formerly known as Prince"
that whole warner brother deal is over with he is still known as Prince!  Thanks for pointing that out. www.goldiesparade.co.uk - 3121 |
I nearly threw up when I heard this.
"You know, you're the classic example of the inverse ratio between the size of the mouth and the size of the brain" |
"It would be an insult to all those record stores who have supported Prince throughout his career," ERA co-chairman Paul Quirk told a music conference.
Prince Party in Paris on the 6th of march 2010 with DJ Unique from UK
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daned said: I nearly threw up when I heard this.
1.The Mail sucks. They supported Hitler and Mussolini. They preach hate against immigrants and homosexuals and young people. They are the lowest of the low. 2.This means the only format the new Prince album is going to be released on over here is a crappy little cardboard sleeve. 3.This is another nail in the coffin of our struggling record shops. The Fopp chain has just gone bust and independent retailers are struggling to pay their bills. This just sucks  [Snip - luv4u] You don't have to buy the mail on sunday. You can wait until it is officially released and pay full price for it. Fact that Prince is doing something for his fans, nobody else has ever done before, don't mean shit to you? Don't you think his company would have researched the nationals and get the best deal? What you want him to giveaway his CD to Daily Star readers? [Snip - luv4u] Stretching his hand out to catch the stars, he forgets the flowers at his feet. |
He is just one big surprise after the next....I love it! |
One Prince album isn't going to save the music "industry."
"Don't you think one of the charms of marriage is that it makes deception a necessity for both parties?" |
I trying to figure out the business angle.
No More Haters on the Internet. |
The newspaper says: "To find out how to get Prince's new album free get this Sunday's Mail on Sunday"
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http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=465229&in_page_id=1773
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Haystack said: http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=465229&in_page_id=1773
Post your comments. I just added this comment... Prince has always been way ahead of the rest both in terms of music and in terms of being a visionary. He used the internet to supply music to his fans long before it became the norm and now he is using a newspaper to give away his new album. Some will criticise this move (no doubt the record shops) as he will be missing out on revenue from CD's sold, but I am sure that we will see CD sales of his last few albums and back catalogue rise after fans of old rediscover him with this giveaway and new fans are won. I was one of the lucky few who saw Prince at the Koko club in May and have seen him live on several occassions throughout the years and I cannot wait to see him at the brand new O2 this summer. They may have to rebuild it oce he is done because something tells me that he is going to take the roof off of that place... Put yourself on the worldwide org map! www.frappr.com/princeorg |
newskin69 said: First Paul signs with Starbucks, now Prince gives away CDs with newspapers..hopefully these show current artists that first and foremost, it's all about the music
Dude, THINK, will ya? Those people pay BIG BUCKS for that. And FYI: When Prince was on the cover of Word magazine, they had one of their worst-ever selling issues ever. Just to put all that "ooh look at Prince he's so popular" crap to bed. © Bart Van Hemelen
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VonMarie said: Prince got screwed with his relationship with Warner Brothers. He lost some of his control
And why? Because he was BLEEDING THEIR MONEY through Paisley Park Records. Yeah, they were totally unreasonable to try to talk some sense into Prince and stop wasting THEIR millions. © Bart Van Hemelen
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CJK505 said: Clearly the best thing I have ever heard of, George Michael would be proud of boldness.
Would that be the same GM who resigned with Sony, the company he sued because he was dumb enough to sign a ludicrous contract early in his career? The same GM who announced he'd stop releasing records when everybody had stopped buying them ages ago? The same GM who now makes two kinds of songs over and over again? © Bart Van Hemelen
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i posted a comment on the website in total support of prince, he needs public support form his fans and that is exactly what i wrote.
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unkleg said: The album is called Planet Earth, and so it would be very cool that instead of an artist talking about 'how sad the Earth's demise is', whilst making a buck out of it. He makes no money, but brings the plight to the fore.
BULLSHIT. 1. Plenty of those CDs will be trashed, and CDs aren't biodegradable. 2. Prince gets paid mucho dinero for this. Why are there fools here who think he gets a cut of the price of the newspaper? Don't you people bother to THINK? © Bart Van Hemelen
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BVH what is your point ? |
BartVanHemelen said: CJK505 said: Clearly the best thing I have ever heard of, George Michael would be proud of boldness.
Would that be the same GM who resigned with Sony, the company he sued because he was dumb enough to sign a ludicrous contract early in his career? The same GM who announced he'd stop releasing records when everybody had stopped buying them ages ago? The same GM who now makes two kinds of songs over and over again?  God bless everyone. NO exceptions. |
JimmyNothing said: He used the internet to supply music to his fans long before it became the norm
Bullshit. Plenty of artists did it earlier and did it better. And continue to do it better. Just look at bands like Metallica or Pearl Jam. We're supposed to jump for joy when Prince deigns us worthy of buying an overpriced drm-protected, lossy encoded live track, while those bands offer ENTIRE CONCERT SERIES in LOSSLESS encoding or on CDs for fan-friendly prices. Oh, and you might want to look up when Amazon started. I'll give you a hint: YEARS before Prince ripped off fans with Crystal Ball. Prince wasn't a pioneer, and even sadder is that he's still one of the worst students in the class. Funny how you lot are still whining about WB, a company he left OVER A DECADE AGO, while giving Prince a free pass every frikking time. Remember when Prince did world tours? Remember when Prince did concerts that didn't cost an arm and a leg? Remember when Prince liked playing live? Remember when Prince actually released music on a regular basis -- and it was GREAT music, not instantly forgettable "will this do" crap. I've just heard a Felix Da Housecat remix of When Doves Cry (illegal of course), and it pisses me off that he had to use the released mixdown instead of the original multitrack. When will Prince wake up and realise that nobody cares about the dreck he excretes via yet another tired major label deal or dumb publicity stunt, and that us fans care about a) remasters, b) vault tracks, c) pristine live recordings. And if he wants to be hip: allow current artists like Justice, Digitalism, Simian Mobile Disco, Basement Jaxx et al to remix his back catalogue. But not his latest pathetic attempt at a hit: nobody cares about that. Least of all Prince. Don't believe me? How many tracks from his latest albums does he play live? He knows damn well that his old stuff is the good stuff, that's why he does "Girl" with Wendy. © Bart Van Hemelen
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its funny, ti hated the newspaper idea when i first heard i thought it was kind of cheapening but the more i think about it the more brilliant an i dea it is its him proving he is in complete conttrol of his music and maximising exposure. pure genius. i take back any negative thoughts i had about it earlier! **NPGMC refugee** |
littlemissG said: Increase his British fan base: sure this could definitely work.
By giving a free cd of mediocre pap to ignorant people? © Bart Van Hemelen
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so this sunday right? -X- WATCHING THE PENNIES SCATTER |
Sdldawn said: so this sunday right?
I've not seen any ads on TV yet so I'll be surprised if the CD is going to be included inside this Sunday's edition. They normally advertise an included CD on TV for a good few days before the paper's publication date. That said, I hope I'm wrong. If there are TV ads tomorrow for Sunday, then it'll be all over the Org and we'll know for deffo. But right now, I've personally not seen any ads for it. Pleeeease will somebody now say that they've seen the ads and I've obviously missed them. |
cant believe its not leaked yet -X- WATCHING THE PENNIES SCATTER |
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Sdldawn said: cant believe its not leaked yet
Me too. After just hearing "One U Wanna C" http://www.prince.org/msg/7/232745?pg=1 I am getting impatient! Can't wait to hear the album in full. Thats 3 pretty solid tracks heard now and from the early reviews, we have not heard the best yet. Later I'm not, I'm not gonna just sit here
and let this go to waste watching the clock tick on my life This time, this times gonna be different 'cause I know what I want Listing the people I'm taking down This is what I'm fighting for. The Left Side - |
BartVanHemelen said: JimmyNothing said: He used the internet to supply music to his fans long before it became the norm
Bullshit. Plenty of artists did it earlier and did it better. And continue to do it better. Just look at bands like Metallica or Pearl Jam. We're supposed to jump for joy when Prince deigns us worthy of buying an overpriced drm-protected, lossy encoded live track, while those bands offer ENTIRE CONCERT SERIES in LOSSLESS encoding or on CDs for fan-friendly prices. Oh, and you might want to look up when Amazon started. I'll give you a hint: YEARS before Prince ripped off fans with Crystal Ball. Prince wasn't a pioneer, and even sadder is that he's still one of the worst students in the class. Funny how you lot are still whining about WB, a company he left OVER A DECADE AGO, while giving Prince a free pass every frikking time. Remember when Prince did world tours? Remember when Prince did concerts that didn't cost an arm and a leg? Remember when Prince liked playing live? Remember when Prince actually released music on a regular basis -- and it was GREAT music, not instantly forgettable "will this do" crap. I've just heard a Felix Da Housecat remix of When Doves Cry (illegal of course), and it pisses me off that he had to use the released mixdown instead of the original multitrack. When will Prince wake up and realise that nobody cares about the dreck he excretes via yet another tired major label deal or dumb publicity stunt, and that us fans care about a) remasters, b) vault tracks, c) pristine live recordings. And if he wants to be hip: allow current artists like Justice, Digitalism, Simian Mobile Disco, Basement Jaxx et al to remix his back catalogue. But not his latest pathetic attempt at a hit: nobody cares about that. Least of all Prince. Don't believe me? How many tracks from his latest albums does he play live? He knows damn well that his old stuff is the good stuff, that's why he does "Girl" with Wendy. Bullshit yourself Bart http://www.webbyawards.com/press/press-release.php?id=118 PRINCE, MUSIC LEGEND AND INTERNET VISIONARY, TO RECEIVE WEBBY LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD AT THE 10TH ANNUAL WEBBY AWARDS www.webbyawards.com New York, NY (May 31, 2006) - In recognition of his visionary use of the Internet to distribute music and connect with audiences, music legend Prince will be honored at The 10th Annual Webby Awards on June 12th in New York City, the International Academy of the Digital Arts and Sciences announced today. The first major artist to release an entire album - 1997's Crystal Ball - [b]exclusively on the Web, Prince's leadership online has transformed the entertainment industry and reshaped the relationship between artist and fan. Long before MySpace and iTunes, Prince used the Web in new ways to distribute music, premiere videos, and build his relationship with his fans. His groundbreaking web site, NPG Music Club (www.npgmusicclub.com) boasts more than seven full-length CDs of music that are unavailable anywhere else. "Besides being a musical genius, Prince is a visionary who recognized early on that the web would completely change how we experience music," said Tiffany Shlain, founder of The Webby Awards. "For more than a decade, he has tapped the power of the Web to forge a deeper connection with his fans and push the boundaries of technology and art." Prince will be saluted alongside Webby Awards winners in 69 categories, as well as five other Special Achievement honorees - the founders of Myspace.com, Thomas Friedman, Mark Cuban, The Gorillaz, and Internet co-inventor Dr. Robert Kahn - which were announced earlier this month. Proclaimed "the online equivalent of an Oscar" by the New York Times (June 21, 2005), The Webby Awards is the leading international honor for Web sites and the innovators behind them. Put yourself on the worldwide org map! www.frappr.com/princeorg |
Does anyone consider this selling out?  |
The Mail on Sunday is a fucking hateful rag, and even the lure of a new Prince album cannot draw me to purchase such a piss-poor excuse for a newspaper. Let's face it, by the time this summer is out we'll have no shortage of spare copies of Planet Earth lying around anyway. I'll be wallpapering my house with the inlays.
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ian said: The Mail on Sunday is a fucking hateful rag, and even the lure of a new Prince album cannot draw me to purchase such a piss-poor excuse for a newspaper. Let's face it, by the time this summer is out we'll have no shortage of spare copies of Planet Earth lying around anyway. I'll be wallpapering my house with the inlays.
I must say too that I find this type of publicity stunt to be rather distasteful. It's nice that Prince is getting some media coverage for the London shows... but this cheapens the music (literally and figuratively). It seems like a desperate and misguided act - let's face it, Prince isn't growing his audience to a huge extent in 2007. He's established enough by now and has a large enough following that he'll fill The O2 many times this summer without even trying, and that should be enough. If he really thinks giving away freebie copies of his latest work along with the Mail on Sunday will win him any new fans, he's living in a fantasy world. Twenty years ago your average Mail reader would be burning effigies of Prince and waving pitchforks and torches outside Paisley Park. Now he's putting his album as their fucking covermount? I'm not sure which party should be more embarrassed by this - maybe Prince and the Mail deserve each other. What PR genius thought Prince and the Mail would be a good match? Who gives a fuck? You buy the Mail On Sunday and you get Prince's album thrown in. £1.40 or whatever for Prince's new CD. Great! If you get all moral on it, then you also have to question Prince's own Jehovah's Witness stance right now. You may as well question buying bootlegs when, apparently, a lot of their sales are funding organised crime. Oh, and it's not as if the music shops aren't greedily making more money per sale than the artist is if you buy music through them. Ultimately, if you're going to have morals then you probably shouldn't be buying music anyway because somewhere along the line, there'll be at least one person in that chain that will have strong views that you'll disagree with. At least with The Mail On Sunday, you'll know that they're open about their views. |
MAN! U cant give nuthin away for free |
BartVanHemelen said: littlemissG said: Increase his British fan base: sure this could definitely work.
By giving a free cd of mediocre pap to ignorant people? Bart...What the FUCK are U so angry about???  |
lspear76 said: One Prince album isn't going to save the music "industry."
We don't know if it is "this Sunday" or not. Please verify information before posting stuff. I'm so sick of this. dry your eyes |
all i know is BartMan better take his knickers off b4 he twists his nuts off. |
DexterDayglo said: all i know is BartMan better take his knickers off b4 he twists his nuts off.
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Prince has a VERY large fan base that will buy whatever he releases. This is what the recording and distribution industry are afraid of. He has full control of his career and music, and is setting a new standard of recording and distribution. He is truly showing artists today how they can be EMANCIPATED and free from the slavery (and its chains) of a record industry who cares about only the almighty DOLLAR, who leaves the artists and the fans without that which is God given; MUSIC!!! It's A Real Mother For Ya
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It is very interesting to note that for many years artists were "creatively strangled" by the record company executives with the A/R reps struggling to feed their families upon finding such creative artists.
GOD Jehovah + Jesus = Foreverlasting Life!
FOREVERLASTING LIFE! FOREVERLASTING LIFE! FOREVERLASTING LIFE! |
I love this move....he tried to do it years ago with the Undertaker but WB wouldn't let him. The music industry is very corrupt and Prince is giving it the bitch slap it deserves...haha. |
I assume that all of the UK Prince Fams will post the new album on the peer to peer sites on Sunday. If you don't own your master, your master owns you. |
tollyc said: I assume that all of the UK Prince Fams will post the new album on the peer to peer sites on Sunday.
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New to the group so first HELLO all.
Have you had your + signs today? |
i think this is a freakin brilliant idea.
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well, the record stores act like they didnt benefit from his album sales in the past. he doesnt owe them anything, they got paid off of his 20 or so other albums, its his music..put it out there as he sees fit. B.A.D. IS THE ILLEST |
Anxiety said: i think this is a freakin brilliant idea.
these days, people can get free music via P2P, so instead of depending on retail sales that aren't happening anymore, prince got paid for 2 million copies bought by the newspaper to be distributed for free. this makes prince look like a good guy to music fans, and it gets him nice and paid. win/win. he knows his albums don't sell to the general public the way they used to, so he has the "wiggle room" to experiment with his new studio releases and find new ways to get his music into people's hands. good for him. I like it too. It wasn't necessarily the smartest move from a business standpoint, but when has he ever really followed the typical charts and graphs? If it gets people in the UK talking about him and puts asses in seats for those couple months, then the album has done its job. |
GangstaFam said: Anxiety said: i think this is a freakin brilliant idea.
these days, people can get free music via P2P, so instead of depending on retail sales that aren't happening anymore, prince got paid for 2 million copies bought by the newspaper to be distributed for free. this makes prince look like a good guy to music fans, and it gets him nice and paid. win/win. he knows his albums don't sell to the general public the way they used to, so he has the "wiggle room" to experiment with his new studio releases and find new ways to get his music into people's hands. good for him. I like it too. It wasn't necessarily the smartest move from a business standpoint, but when has he ever really followed the typical charts and graphs? If it gets people in the UK talking about him and puts asses in seats for those couple months, then the album has done its job. from a charts perspective, it may not be a great move. i think it's a much better business move, especially at this point in the game, than trying to sell a new album for $17.99 at borders. most people now are like "screw that, i'll go home and download it for free!" prince is getting some of that loss back with this deal, and beating the P2P crowd to their computers. i just wish it had been the chicago tribune instead! |
Anxiety said: from a charts perspective, it may not be a great move. i think it's a much better business move, especially at this point in the game, than trying to sell a new album for $17.99 at borders. most people now are like "screw that, i'll go home and download it for free!" prince is getting some of that loss back with this deal, and beating the P2P crowd to their computers. i just wish it had been the chicago tribune instead!
Well, I know what you're saying from a financial standpoint. But if it's pissing off those in charge of his distrubution and music retailers, I can't see the positive aspects of that. He has a reputation for not playing friendly with suits, so this isn't exactly a new thing. But the friends that he'll lose at Virgin Megastore or Sony probably won't add up to the fans he'll reach with this current phase of his career in the UK. So I'm guessing that you're right...this will be a win/win situation in the longrun. |
i'm assuming its this sunday? -X- WATCHING THE PENNIES SCATTER |
GangstaFam said: Anxiety said: from a charts perspective, it may not be a great move. i think it's a much better business move, especially at this point in the game, than trying to sell a new album for $17.99 at borders. most people now are like "screw that, i'll go home and download it for free!" prince is getting some of that loss back with this deal, and beating the P2P crowd to their computers. i just wish it had been the chicago tribune instead!
Well, I know what you're saying from a financial standpoint. But if it's pissing off those in charge of his distrubution and music retailers, I can't see the positive aspects of that. He has a reputation for not playing friendly with suits, so this isn't exactly a new thing. But the friends that he'll lose at Virgin Megastore or Sony probably won't add up to the fans he'll reach with this current phase of his career in the UK. So I'm guessing that you're right...this will be a win/win situation in the longrun. Yeah, he does seem to be burning bridges with retail on this decision, but that makes me think...we saw Tower close down last year...we're seeing the Virgin Megastores chain close down as we speak...Coconuts is gone...Best Buy is cutting back their music selections...really, the only wrecka stows surviving right now are the independent specialty shops, and the people who keep those stores open right now aren't gonna go to Footlight Records, Other Music or Reckless in search of the new Prince CD. A big chunk of his retail audience got turned away when the Towers and Virgins locked their doors, and the rest of em are already wise to the fact that they don't have to pay $20 for a 10 song CD at Barnes & Noble. I think he's doing a less interesting version of what NIN did with "Year Zero" - that album was pretty much distributed for free at first, though fans had to jump through some hoops to get it (which ultimately led to them enjoying a multimedia experience related to the album content). Prince can't sell 'em like he used to, and even if he could, the retail music industry is in a scary place right now. Oddly, I think this could be a great time to be an indie artist. |
Anxiety said: Yeah, he does seem to be burning bridges with retail on this decision, but that makes me think...we saw Tower close down last year...we're seeing the Virgin Megastores chain close down as we speak...Coconuts is gone...Best Buy is cutting back their music selections...really, the only wrecka stows surviving right now are the independent specialty shops, and the people who keep those stores open right now aren't gonna go to Footlight Records, Other Music or Reckless in search of the new Prince CD. A big chunk of his retail audience got turned away when the Towers and Virgins locked their doors, and the rest of em are already wise to the fact that they don't have to pay $20 for a 10 song CD at Barnes & Noble.
I think he's doing a less interesting version of what NIN did with "Year Zero" - that album was pretty much distributed for free at first, though fans had to jump through some hoops to get it (which ultimately led to them enjoying a multimedia experience related to the album content). Prince can't sell 'em like he used to, and even if he could, the retail music industry is in a scary place right now. Oddly, I think this could be a great time to be an indie artist. Prince definitely likes to straddle that indie line.
I think that the things that hurt him in the 90's are the same things that will sustain him in a historical sense as a pioneer at the forefront of technology, distribution and marketing. I like it when Princey takes risks. This is an unexpected one, but he seems to actually have a plan right now. |
I haven't kept up with this thread, but USA Today is saying that it's THIS WEEKEND'S edition of this UK paper???? "Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran |
Sdldawn said: i'm assuming its this sunday?
according to USA Today it is. wow! "Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran |
Raze said: Sdldawn said: i'm assuming its this sunday?
according to USA Today it is. wow! bring it on!  |
"Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran |
you realize this means we'll have the "leak" by midnight, eastern time? "Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran |
"When want 2 hear new music, make it" Prince |
I just hope he`s making the right move here---Maybe next time he can stop them wankers at ticketmaster auctioning tickets EVEN IN THE SUMMER TIME |
This shows, without a doubt, that Prince is on the cutting edge of music distribution experimentation. After the Musicology giveaways, he's upped the ante.
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If you click through the pages on the Daily Mail's Prince mini site - the last page actually says get the mail on sunday this week to find out how you can get Planet Earth for free.
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BartVanHemelen said: Remember when Prince did concerts that didn't cost an arm and a leg? Remember when Prince liked playing live?
Hmm, yeah I remember that. Those were the days, well, about 5 mins ago when I purchased a ticket for about £35 in the lower tier of the 02 Arena - cheaper than any other major act playing there. Prince doesn't like playing live? He sure plays live A LOT for someone who doesn't enjoy it. Nobody's making him do all these shows, and aftershows. |
yeah big slap to you ERA mafia bastards...did u threaten our boy too??? why you, |
BartVanHemelen said: How many tracks from his latest albums does he play live? He knows damn well that his old stuff is the good stuff, that's why he does "Girl" with Wendy.
More recent stuff he's been playing live the last few years: 2002: Rainbow Children, Muse 2 The Pharaoh, Xenophobia, The Work Pt. 1, 1+1+1 is 3, The Everlasting Now, Family Name, One Nite Alone, Avalanche were played reguarly live. He also played She Loves Me 4 Me and Last December the odd time. 2004: Musicology, Dear Mr. Man, Life O The Party, On The Couch, Prince and the Band, 2006/7: Fury, 3121, Lolita, Black Sweat, Get On The Boat, Musicology. He's also played Beautiful, Loved and Blessed, The Word and Te Amo Corazon. He also played 'Reflection' with Wendy last week - a track that's only a couple of years old. So he's been playing a few recent songs live over the past few years. |
hey bart... |
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/prince/prince1.html |
The fact that the Mail on Sunday website ad says "to find out how" rather than "get your free copy" suggests to me that some sort of phone call or letter will be required to get the CD.
So look into the mirror, do u recognise some1? Is it who u always hoped u would become, when u were young? |
i posted a comment on the dailymail site last night and it says there are no comments?! **NPGMC refugee** |
HollywoodSt said: If you click through the pages on the Daily Mail's Prince mini site - the last page actually says get the mail on sunday this week to find out how you can get Planet Earth for free.
???? maybe instead of a proper CD it's going to be an online code for a free download version of the album? in that case, the album's gonna live up to its title because everyone around the world is gonna be passing around that damn code by the end of the weekend! |
Anxiety said: HollywoodSt said: If you click through the pages on the Daily Mail's Prince mini site - the last page actually says get the mail on sunday this week to find out how you can get Planet Earth for free.
???? maybe instead of a proper CD it's going to be an online code for a free download version of the album? in that case, the album's gonna live up to its title because everyone around the world is gonna be passing around that damn code by the end of the weekend! But it does say that the CD will have the same packaging as the released version. And there are many references to it be FREE INSIDE and all that, so I'm guessing that this week it'll simply tell you to buy next week's. This way, they get to promote the giveaway over two weekends instead of just the one. |
Yay! It's made BBC News
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give it away free or don't give it away free... I really don't care.
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222 said: from BBC article
Planet Earth will be given free with a future edition of the Mail on Sunday. well, they can't very well give it out with last sunday's edition, can they? |
its going to be the july 15th one. |
As i said before, before my thread was locket |
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/prince/prince4.html
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Anxiety said: 222 said: from BBC article
Planet Earth will be given free with a future edition of the Mail on Sunday. well, they can't very well give it out with last sunday's edition, can they? Unless it's an episode of LOST, I'd say no. Christian Zombie Vampires |
The new Prince record is crap. Trust me.
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mschirmer said: The new Prince record is crap. Trust me.
He's giving it away because he's smart. He know's it's crap and he knows that it won't get played on the radio and he knows that it won't sell well in stores and he knows that the reviews will bomb. So he gives it way with tickets and newspapers in hopes that if it's forced on people it will do well....Christ, he's gone mad. Nobody cares. Not even this once very serious Prince fan. I'm over the ridiculousness. Sounds like someone cares to me |
mschirmer said: The new Prince record is crap. Trust me.
He's giving it away because he's smart. He know's it's crap and he knows that it won't get played on the radio and he knows that it won't sell well in stores and he knows that the reviews will bomb. So he gives it way with tickets and newspapers in hopes that if it's forced on people it will do well....Christ, he's gone mad. Nobody cares. Not even this once very serious Prince fan. I'm over the ridiculousness. actually, if he knows it's a crap album, he's done something that's the exact opposite of mad. all the copies have been sold to Mail on Sunday, tons of people who wouldn't even buy a prince album if it were the best thing he'd ever done are getting a copy whether they want it or not, and prince already has his album sales profits made in one fell swoop. in this age where the fans would be circulating it online anyway, sounds like a pretty clean sweep to me, crappy album or no.  |
mschirmer said: The new Prince record is crap. Trust me.
He's giving it away because he's smart. He know's it's crap and he knows that it won't get played on the radio and he knows that it won't sell well in stores and he knows that the reviews will bomb. So he gives it way with tickets and newspapers in hopes that if it's forced on people it will do well....Christ, he's gone mad. Nobody cares. Not even this once very serious Prince fan. I'm over the ridiculousness. You ARE so full of shit. If you made a shit album and you knew it (?) why would you give it away to everyone for free??? cos you want to put everyone off you for life, when you already struggle when it comes to casual listeners?? Don't be so fucking stupid!! If he thought it was shit, he wouldn't be releasing it. |
boermacher said: What's up with that UK thing suddenly. He never looked to the UK and was always in the Netherlands for his European releases and concerts. Now he's giving albums away in the UK.
Loyal dutch fans will not be rewarded for their loyalty, but just have dig in their bankaccount. Well I made the smart move to Glasgow all those years ago. I'll be getting several extra copies. Do you want me to sent u 1 ? Cheers Oscar |
tintin said: My only problem with this is his choice of paper. The Daily/Sunday Biggot (sorry, Mail) is the worst excuse for reactionary, biased, feckless journalism in the UK. If this does go ahead, it's going to really pain me to walk to my newsagent that Sunday morning and hand over my cash to buy a copy of the Mail. I think i'd rather pay for an import copy for the US.
TT. My exact sentiments Prince should do his research before first selling his soul to the devil – a newspaper whose founder supported fascism, the most bigoted newspaper in the UK – we black here deserve some respect – it is not only Black Americans that are oppressed. Why do a deal with a newspaper that constantly writes venom against minorities be it refugees, foreigners, black youth culture etc- the reason this country is going to the dogs is because of foreigners etc – would you make a deal with a newspaper in the States that use to support or supports prejudice and bigotry. Prince I have supported most thing you have done in the past but out of the greater evil the music industry or the daily mail you have made the wrong choice this time – fine great idea – wrong newspaper and I for one will not under any circumstances be buying this newspaper to get a copy of your album |
If you sign a record deal why would you then turn your back on said record company and give your music away for free? |
mkaye8 said: If you sign a record deal why would you then turn your back on said record company and give your music away for free?
because you're prince. |
girl66 said: http://business.guardian.co.uk
Prince is launching his new Planet Earth album as a free giveaway with a national Sunday newspaper in a move that has drawn widespread condemnation from music retailers. The 10-track CD will be available free with an "imminent" edition of the newspaper. Planet Earth will then go on sale on July 24. "It's all about giving music for the masses and he believes in spreading the music he produces to as many people as possible," said Mail on Sunday managing director Stephen Miron. "This is the biggest innovation in newspaper promotions in recent times." The paper will be ramping up its print run in anticipation of a huge spike in circulation but would not reveal how much the deal with Prince would cost. One music store executive described the plan as "madness" while others said it was a huge insult to an industry battling fierce competition from supermarkets and online stores. Prince's label broke off ties in the UK with the album in a bid to appease music stores. The Entertainment Retailers Association (ERA) said the giveaway "beggars belief". "It would be an insult to all those record stores who have supported Prince throughout his career," ERA co-chairman Paul Quirk told a music conference. "It would be yet another example of the damaging covermount culture which is destroying any perception of value around recorded music. "The Artist Formerly Known as Prince should know that with behaviour like this he will soon be the Artist Formerly Available in Record Stores. "And I say that to all the other artists who may be tempted to dally with the Mail on Sunday." High street music giant HMV was similarly scathing about the plans. Speaking before rumours of a giveaway were confirmed, HMV chief executive Simon Fox said: "I think it would be absolutely nuts." "I can't believe the music industry would do it to itself. I simply can't believe it would happen, it would be absolute madness." Prince, whose Purple Rain sold more than 11m copies, also plans to give away a free copy of his latest album with each ticket sold for his upcoming string of concerts in London. The singer had signed a global deal as well for the promotion and distribution of Planet Earth in partnership with Columbia Records, a division of music company Sony BMG. A spokesman for the group said tonight that the UK arm of Sony BMG had withdrawn from Prince's global deal and would not be distributing the album to UK stores. "We think it is the right thing to do in the difficult retail market," he said. "We are delighted Prince has come back to a major label but this makes sense for the UK." The Mail on Sunday, owned by Associated Newspapers, has built up a reputation for music giveaways and this is not the first time it has drawn harsh criticism. It most recently clashed with musician Mike Oldfield over the giveaway of his album Tubular Bells. Still, the paper maintains that its covermount CDs of artists such as Simply Red, Madness and Dolly Parton stimulate interest in music and it has asked retailers to look at partnerships. "The Mail on Sunday is the biggest distributor of albums in this country," said Mr Miron. "We are saying to retailers we would be happy to engage in dialogue." Copyright Guardian News and Media Limited [Edited 6/28/07 13:09pm] kinda takes the shine off receiving it at the gigs i feel...i understand the strategy but still...give it away in the paper after the gigs are done. |
JimmyNothing said: Bullshit yourself Bart
http://www.webbyawards.com/press/press-release.php?id=118 Oh please, those guys know NOTHING. If Prince is a pioneer, prove it. But again: lemme remind you that Amazon started in 1995, that's more than TWO YEARS before Prince made a fuckery out of CB. Prince has done NOTHING that other artists haven't done earlier and better. © Bart Van Hemelen
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DexterDayglo said: all i know is BartMan better take his knickers off b4 he twists his nuts off.
How can you spot a Prince fam? When you hear someone failing to bring up arguments and resort to dumb namecalling when the idiocy of his favorite artist's latest venture is exposed. © Bart Van Hemelen
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BartVanHemelen said: Why are there fools here who think he gets a cut of the price of the newspaper? Don't you people bother to THINK?
No need to, cuz you do all the thinking for us, right? Sleek neat creepin' gangk peepin' |
BartVanHemelen said: littlemissG said: Increase his British fan base: sure this could definitely work.
By giving a free cd of mediocre pap to ignorant people? So you've heard the album huh? How about a review? Sleek neat creepin' gangk peepin' |
Anxiety said: I think he's doing a less interesting version of what NIN did with "Year Zero" - that album was pretty much distributed for free at first,
Oh please. Trent leaked a couple of tracks as MP3s on USB sticks handed to fans at concerts, which was COOL. Then he streamed the album after a Polish guy got hold of copies of the album weeks before the release, sold some of those copies on an eBay-like site, and rips from those leaked albums appeared on p2p. End result for Trent: ZERO PROFIT. And now he's making the multi-track recordings of some of the tracks available via his site so fans can make their own remixes with quality source material. End result for Trent: ZERO PROFIT. Oh, and he cancelled the release of the second single when he found out that the Australian branch of his record company were overpricing his album "because NIN fans will pay lotsa money anyway", and that the previous single was imported for excaggerated prices into the US. End result for Trent: ZERO PROFIT. What did Prince do? Come up with yet another lame publicity stunt that is coupled with him getting a big payday. Meanwhile his fans get screwed (because non-UK fans either have to try to obtain copies of the givaway via ebay or wait till it arrives in shops much later), and at the same time he helps promote a disgusting newspaper. © Bart Van Hemelen
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leecaldon said: BartVanHemelen said: Remember when Prince did concerts that didn't cost an arm and a leg? Remember when Prince liked playing live?
Hmm, yeah I remember that. Those were the days, well, about 5 mins ago when I purchased a ticket for about £35 in the lower tier of the 02 Arena - cheaper than any other major act playing there. EXCEPTION not the rule. Now let's take a look at what non-UK fans have to do and spend to obtain sucha ticket and visit those concerts. Why can't you look at the BIGGER picture? leecaldon said: Prince doesn't like playing live? He sure plays live A LOT for someone who doesn't enjoy it. Nobody's making him do all these shows, and aftershows.
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BartVanHemelen said: What did Prince do? Come up with yet another lame publicity stunt that is coupled with him getting a big payday. Meanwhile his fans get screwed (because non-UK fans either have to try to obtain copies of the givaway via ebay or wait till it arrives in shops much later), and at the same time he helps promote a disgusting newspaper.
You just can't seem to handle the fact that Prince's public profile in 2004, 2006 and 2007 has been pretty impressive. This newspaper thing may be a pretty transparent "publicity stunt" but it damn sure works though don't it? Why can't you give credit where credit's due Bart? Just the fucking once? Sleek neat creepin' gangk peepin' |
mschirmer said: The new Prince record is crap. Trust me.
He's giving it away because he's smart. He know's it's crap and he knows that it won't get played on the radio and he knows that it won't sell well in stores and he knows that the reviews will bomb. So he gives it way with tickets and newspapers in hopes that if it's forced on people it will do well....Christ, he's gone mad. Nobody cares. Not even this once very serious Prince fan. I'm over the ridiculousness. Actually, you're wrong. "Guitar" has already been played both on Radio 1 and Radio 2 during daytime. So, radio is playing the record. It's just a shame that the album is being glued to a racist newspaper "You know, you're the classic example of the inverse ratio between the size of the mouth and the size of the brain" |
leecaldon said: More recent stuff he's been playing live the last few years:
2002: Rainbow Children, Muse 2 The Pharaoh, Xenophobia, The Work Pt. 1, 1+1+1 is 3, The Everlasting Now, Family Name, One Nite Alone, Avalanche were played reguarly live. He also played She Loves Me 4 Me and Last December the odd time. 2004: Musicology, Dear Mr. Man, Life O The Party, On The Couch, Prince and the Band, 2006/7: Fury, 3121, Lolita, Black Sweat, Get On The Boat, Musicology. He's also played Beautiful, Loved and Blessed, The Word and Te Amo Corazon. He also played 'Reflection' with Wendy last week - a track that's only a couple of years old. So he's been playing a few recent songs live over the past few years. Oh wow. Whoop-de-frikking-do. Now take a look at say, the SOTT era. Here's a challenge, one that I've posted repeatedly and no one ever dared to take it since we all know the outcome: take a Prince concert, take the length of each song played times the year it was released. Add all those numbers up. Divide by the total length of the concert, i.e. the length of each song added up. Then you have the average age of the songs played at the concert. Yeah, he plays the occasional recent song. Back in the day tours would revolve around the current album and the hits were a bonus. How many recent Prince tracks have NEVER been played live on a regular basis? © Bart Van Hemelen
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BartVanHemelen said: Here's a challenge, one that I've posted repeatedly and no one ever dared to take it since we all know the outcome: take a Prince concert, take the length of each song played times the year it was released. Add all those numbers up. Divide by the total length of the concert, i.e. the length of each song added up. Then you have the average age of the songs played at the concert.
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Haystack said: ian said: The Mail on Sunday is a fucking hateful rag, and even the lure of a new Prince album cannot draw me to purchase such a piss-poor excuse for a newspaper. Let's face it, by the time this summer is out we'll have no shortage of spare copies of Planet Earth lying around anyway. I'll be wallpapering my house with the inlays.
I must say too that I find this type of publicity stunt to be rather distasteful. It's nice that Prince is getting some media coverage for the London shows... but this cheapens the music (literally and figuratively). It seems like a desperate and misguided act - let's face it, Prince isn't growing his audience to a huge extent in 2007. He's established enough by now and has a large enough following that he'll fill The O2 many times this summer without even trying, and that should be enough. If he really thinks giving away freebie copies of his latest work along with the Mail on Sunday will win him any new fans, he's living in a fantasy world. Twenty years ago your average Mail reader would be burning effigies of Prince and waving pitchforks and torches outside Paisley Park. Now he's putting his album as their fucking covermount? I'm not sure which party should be more embarrassed by this - maybe Prince and the Mail deserve each other. What PR genius thought Prince and the Mail would be a good match? Who gives a fuck? You buy the Mail On Sunday and you get Prince's album thrown in. £1.40 or whatever for Prince's new CD. Great! If you get all moral on it, then you also have to question Prince's own Jehovah's Witness stance right now. You may as well question buying bootlegs when, apparently, a lot of their sales are funding organised crime. Oh, and it's not as if the music shops aren't greedily making more money per sale than the artist is if you buy music through them. Ultimately, if you're going to have morals then you probably shouldn't be buying music anyway because somewhere along the line, there'll be at least one person in that chain that will have strong views that you'll disagree with. At least with The Mail On Sunday, you'll know that they're open about their views. Well said Haystack. Stretching his hand out to catch the stars, he forgets the flowers at his feet. |
Haystack said: ian said: The Mail on Sunday is a fucking hateful rag, and even the lure of a new Prince album cannot draw me to purchase such a piss-poor excuse for a newspaper. Let's face it, by the time this summer is out we'll have no shortage of spare copies of Planet Earth lying around anyway. I'll be wallpapering my house with the inlays.
I must say too that I find this type of publicity stunt to be rather distasteful. It's nice that Prince is getting some media coverage for the London shows... but this cheapens the music (literally and figuratively). It seems like a desperate and misguided act - let's face it, Prince isn't growing his audience to a huge extent in 2007. He's established enough by now and has a large enough following that he'll fill The O2 many times this summer without even trying, and that should be enough. If he really thinks giving away freebie copies of his latest work along with the Mail on Sunday will win him any new fans, he's living in a fantasy world. Twenty years ago your average Mail reader would be burning effigies of Prince and waving pitchforks and torches outside Paisley Park. Now he's putting his album as their fucking covermount? I'm not sure which party should be more embarrassed by this - maybe Prince and the Mail deserve each other. What PR genius thought Prince and the Mail would be a good match? Who gives a fuck? You buy the Mail On Sunday and you get Prince's album thrown in. £1.40 or whatever for Prince's new CD. Great! If you get all moral on it, then you also have to question Prince's own Jehovah's Witness stance right now. You may as well question buying bootlegs when, apparently, a lot of their sales are funding organised crime. Oh, and it's not as if the music shops aren't greedily making more money per sale than the artist is if you buy music through them. Ultimately, if you're going to have morals then you probably shouldn't be buying music anyway because somewhere along the line, there'll be at least one person in that chain that will have strong views that you'll disagree with. At least with The Mail On Sunday, you'll know that they're open about their views. Good points. And again I say. Seems to me if that a lot are annoyed that Prince has gotten his cut before the album gets leaked by some record company intern who happened to get his/her hands on an advance copy of of the album and plasters it on the internet.... FOR FREE. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Ifsixwuz9 said: Haystack said: Who gives a fuck? You buy the Mail On Sunday and you get Prince's album thrown in. £1.40 or whatever for Prince's new CD. Great! If you get all moral on it, then you also have to question Prince's own Jehovah's Witness stance right now. You may as well question buying bootlegs when, apparently, a lot of their sales are funding organised crime. Oh, and it's not as if the music shops aren't greedily making more money per sale than the artist is if you buy music through them. Ultimately, if you're going to have morals then you probably shouldn't be buying music anyway because somewhere along the line, there'll be at least one person in that chain that will have strong views that you'll disagree with. At least with The Mail On Sunday, you'll know that they're open about their views. Good points. And again I say. Seems to me if that a lot are annoyed that Prince has gotten his cut before the album gets leaked by some record company intern who happened to get his/her hands on an advance copy of of the album and plasters it on the internet.... FOR FREE. Hear! Hear! [Edited 7/3/07 0:05am] Sleek neat creepin' gangk peepin' |
Ifsixwuz9 said: Good points. And again I say. Seems to me if that a lot are annoyed that Prince has gotten his cut before the album gets leaked by some record company intern who happened to get his/her hands on an advance copy of of the album and plasters it on the internet.... FOR FREE. MartyMcFly saiid: Hear! Hear! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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promisekept said: It is very interesting to note that for many years artists were "creatively strangled" by the record company executives with the A/R reps struggling to feed their families upon finding such creative artists.
In the end of that phase I the industry let alot of good A/R reps go and decided to band together to create even a more "creative stranglehold on artists" by signing to more stringent contracts... the only thing is... The industry forgot that eventually if you strangle enough artists people get wise and learn to... become INDEPENDENT in their CREATIVITY to get out of the noose towards freedom... With Mp3 and the newest technologies... artists are now becoming un-indebted to the record industry and breathing a scent of freedom like never before. The industry is trying very hard to figure out how to feed themselves, since they pretty much "screwed" themselves, pardon my language but true... Well, KARMA comes around and artists are now becoming Free like they are supposed to be... having the ability to DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, SINCE it is THEIR RIGHT TO DO what they can do with their GOD GIVEN talent naturally! Therefore, AMEN to creativity and the ideas that emerge from having the "Balls" to do what you want to do with YOUR creative Music so everybody can hear it around the world, even in a day! So with that being said, DO WHAT YOU WANNA DO to let your spirit GET FREE with the talent you have. I agree with what Prince is doing completely, not because people think I agree just because he is doing it but for the simple fact... HE SIMPLY IS BECAUSE HE CAN! GODBLISS, promisekept. You are right but at the same time you are wrong. We are switching from an artists/majors conflict to artists/new technologies conflict. You can like it or not, but Warner made P. And some how, P is a product of the system he criticized. P needed a major label and massive promotion to be the artist he has become. If P wanted to be Free, nothing forced him to sign with a major label. He could have stay independent, and doing gigs like most indie artists. Creativity is one thing but promotion, touring, recording in ultra expensive studios is another. P can still sell records because he has a huge fanbase and he's a well known superstar. Now try to repeat the same career without the major labels ... [Edited 7/2/07 13:18pm] |
krayzie said: promisekept said: It is very interesting to note that for many years artists were "creatively strangled" by the record company executives with the A/R reps struggling to feed their families upon finding such creative artists.
In the end of that phase I the industry let alot of good A/R reps go and decided to band together to create even a more "creative stranglehold on artists" by signing to more stringent contracts... the only thing is... The industry forgot that eventually if you strangle enough artists people get wise and learn to... become INDEPENDENT in their CREATIVITY to get out of the noose towards freedom... With Mp3 and the newest technologies... artists are now becoming un-indebted to the record industry and breathing a scent of freedom like never before. The industry is trying very hard to figure out how to feed themselves, since they pretty much "screwed" themselves, pardon my language but true... Well, KARMA comes around and artists are now becoming Free like they are supposed to be... having the ability to DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, SINCE it is THEIR RIGHT TO DO what they can do with their GOD GIVEN talent naturally! Therefore, AMEN to creativity and the ideas that emerge from having the "Balls" to do what you want to do with YOUR creative Music so everybody can hear it around the world, even in a day! So with that being said, DO WHAT YOU WANNA DO to let your spirit GET FREE with the talent you have. I agree with what Prince is doing completely, not because people think I agree just because he is doing it but for the simple fact... HE SIMPLY IS BECAUSE HE CAN! GODBLISS, promisekept. You are right but at the same time you are wrong. We are switching from an artists/majors conflict to artists/new technologies conflict. You can like it or not, but Warner made P. And some how, P is a product of the system he criticized. P needed a major label and massive promotion to be the artist he has become. If P wanted to be Free, nothing forced him to sign with a major label. He could have stay independent, and doing gigs like most indie artists. Creativity is one thing but promotion, touring, recording in ultra expensive studios is another. P can still sell records because he has a huge fanbase and he's a well known superstar. Now try to repeat the same career without the major labels ... [Edited 7/2/07 13:18pm] When Prince first started out there was no internet no sites to upload for all the world to hear, so the only way to be heard was to sign up to a record company. Nowadays an unsigned band group singer can upload there son to so many different sites and get seen on a global scale who in the 1970's could say that |
BartVanHemelen said: leecaldon said: More recent stuff he's been playing live the last few years:
2002: Rainbow Children, Muse 2 The Pharaoh, Xenophobia, The Work Pt. 1, 1+1+1 is 3, The Everlasting Now, Family Name, One Nite Alone, Avalanche were played reguarly live. He also played She Loves Me 4 Me and Last December the odd time. 2004: Musicology, Dear Mr. Man, Life O The Party, On The Couch, Prince and the Band, 2006/7: Fury, 3121, Lolita, Black Sweat, Get On The Boat, Musicology. He's also played Beautiful, Loved and Blessed, The Word and Te Amo Corazon. He also played 'Reflection' with Wendy last week - a track that's only a couple of years old. So he's been playing a few recent songs live over the past few years. Oh wow. Whoop-de-frikking-do. Now take a look at say, the SOTT era. Here's a challenge, one that I've posted repeatedly and no one ever dared to take it since we all know the outcome: take a Prince concert, take the length of each song played times the year it was released. Add all those numbers up. Divide by the total length of the concert, i.e. the length of each song added up. Then you have the average age of the songs played at the concert. Yeah, he plays the occasional recent song. Back in the day tours would revolve around the current album and the hits were a bonus. How many recent Prince tracks have NEVER been played live on a regular basis? I don't really have the time to take the challenge at the moment. But I think it's important for you to understand that Prince is in another phase of his career, from say 1987. Not surprising really. When it comes to live shows, he's got 20 more years of back catalogue to choose from. It wouldn't make sense to abandon all of that stuff, a great deal of which has now passed into 'classic' status. And it's not as if he's always taking the safe option with older stuff - Sexuality, Shhh, Anotherloverholenyohead, Girl, Anna Stesia, Joy in Repetition, I Like It There, The One, ? of U, Around the World in a Day - these are not his most well-known songs. Plus there are the various covers he's doing - both new and old. He's not doing them for lack of original material. Out of interest, Bart, what would be your ideal Prince show, if he played in your hometown tomorrow? |
BartVanHemelen said: leecaldon said: EXCEPTION not the rule. Now let's take a look at what non-UK fans have to do and spend to obtain sucha ticket and visit those concerts. Why can't you look at the BIGGER picture?. From what I could see, 3121 Las Vegas prices were similar to other shows in Vegas, but in a more intimate venue. leecaldon said: Prince doesn't like playing live? He sure plays live A LOT for someone who doesn't enjoy it. Nobody's making him do all these shows, and aftershows.
Dude, it's all about the dead presidents. How much money do you think Prince made from doing aftershows at 3121 Jazz Cuisine in a front of a couple of hundred people at 3am? There is no chance in hell that it was happening because of the huge profits. |
oldpurple said: When Prince first started out there was no internet no sites to upload for all the world to hear, so the only way to be heard was to sign up to a record company. When Prince first started out, the only way to be heard was TOURING TOURING AND TOURING P decided to sign with a major label. P since day one is a pure product of the system. He became a superstar thanks to a massive blockbuster and MTV. oldpurple said: Nowadays an unsigned band group singer can upload there son to so many different sites and get seen on a global scale who in the 1970's could say that
Please Name one unsigned artist who get the fame that P has ? [Edited 7/3/07 18:03pm] |
krayzie said: oldpurple said: When Prince first started out there was no internet no sites to upload for all the world to hear, so the only way to be heard was to sign up to a record company. When Prince first started out, the only way to be heard was TOURING TOURING AND TOURING P decided to sign with a major label. P since day one is a pure product of the system. He became a superstar thanks to a massive blockbuster and MTV. oldpurple said: Nowadays an unsigned band group singer can upload there son to so many different sites and get seen on a global scale who in the 1970's could say that
Please Name one unsigned artist who get the fame that P has ?
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Moonbeam said: God I love Prince. Just when you think you've got things figured out, he does something completely off the wall. The enigma is well at work!
i agree. just when i think my obsession with the man is waning... he pulls me BACK in! we're like two petals from the same flower, baby... |
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It also means i'll be getting up early on Sunday to get my copy.
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