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Thread started 03/03/07 11:32pm

paisley16

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Let's Get Prince a star on the Hollywood WOF

I know this has been brought up before, but it's time to try again.
We should start a fan-based effort- FOR REAL- on getting Prince his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Anyone can nominate a celebrity as long the celeb agrees. Apparently, it costs $25,000. If we started some kind of online petition- and everybody gave a dollar, that could be covered in no time. The hard part is getting the agreement from Prince or "his representatives" to submit along with the application. But I would think there has to be someone here, who knows someone, who knows someone, who's third cousin maybe could actually talk to someone in his camp about this. smile I see no reason why he wouldn't agree if presented with an organized campaign- he is a Star for God's Sake, and a much bigger one than some of the stars out there already.

See here for info...http://www.hollywoodchamber.net/icons/faq.asp

Think how cool it would be if the Org was directly responsible for making this finally happen? cool
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Reply #1 posted 03/04/07 12:05am

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I'm pretty sure he's not into this kinda thing. I think Jehovah's Witnesses have something against people basically worshiping you, which is exactly what the star would be.
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Reply #2 posted 03/04/07 1:23am

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You mean he dosn't have one alreadly? Wow, I'm going to make a trip to Hollywood & spray paint one. How cool would that be? Who needs 25,000?
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Reply #3 posted 03/04/07 9:58am

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I always hated the idea you have to pay for that star. It doesn't seem sincere. I hope he never gets one. Fake star worship.
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Reply #4 posted 03/04/07 10:08am

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I think kermit the frog has one.
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Reply #5 posted 03/04/07 10:18am

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I think kermit the frog has one.


Rightfully so. That guy is a legend.
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Reply #6 posted 03/04/07 10:30am

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masbas said:

I think kermit the frog has one.


Rightfully so. That guy is a legend.

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Reply #7 posted 03/04/07 10:46am

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avah12 said:

I'm pretty sure he's not into this kinda thing. I think Jehovah's Witnesses have something against people basically worshiping you, which is exactly what the star would be.


I don't believe that's a reasonable assumption. As far as I can tell, he has never made a statement one way or the other on this subject of a WOF star. It was discussed in another thread recently that there are obviously some discretions given between him and the JW's due to his star stature- which makes sense. And come on, isn't simply having your own club and restaurant in Las Vegas -of all places- sort of placing yourself out for "worship" in a way?

It also seems obvious to me that he has grown much more comfortable of late with his status and/or role in Hollywood. His parties are attracting the so-called "Hollywood heavyweights" on a regular basis- even stealing them from other events. And now we also have the rumor that he'll be setting up in LA for something over the next few months. (of course he could just be recording a new album, but we'll see).

Don't get me wrong- I'm not saying having a star is that important in the big picture but the WOF does exist, it has for a long time, and I think he should be there too. His impact on Hollywood- which is what the stars represent- has been massive.
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Reply #8 posted 03/04/07 10:55am

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You lost me on the third sentence...read it carefully.

Prince don't want any part of that BULLSHYTE.
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Reply #9 posted 03/04/07 10:59am

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Revolution said:

You lost me on the third sentence...read it carefully.

Prince don't want any part of that BULLSHYTE.


read my second post above. That is an assumption not a fact. I'm not saying it might not turn out to be true, but it has not yet been determined. A true campaign to do this has never happened.
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Reply #10 posted 03/04/07 11:01am

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paisley16 said:

Revolution said:

You lost me on the third sentence...read it carefully.

Prince don't want any part of that BULLSHYTE.


read my second post above. That is an assumption not a fact. I'm not saying it might not turn out to be true, but it has not yet been determined. A true campaign to do this has never happened.


A star on the WOF is way overdue...so much so that Prince, and frankly, his fans, should consider it a slap in the face if given now. Focus on the now, listen to the new music...have ya heard that 3121 is out?
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Reply #11 posted 03/04/07 11:07am

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If you check past threads here on Prince.Org this topic comes up every so often.

The Hollywood Walk of Fame star topic has been discussed for the better part of 20 years.

It could be another 20 or so when and if Prince wants to be recognized.
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Reply #12 posted 03/04/07 11:50am

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a2grafix said:

If you check past threads here on Prince.Org this topic comes up every so often.

The Hollywood Walk of Fame star topic has been discussed for the better part of 20 years.

It could be another 20 or so when and if Prince wants to be recognized.


Yes, it gets discussed but only when someone asks if he has one. It comes up often enough that the question is included in the FAQ's of this site. My point remains- there has never been a real fan-based effort to get him one. I do agree with the assumption that he would never buy himself one, that would be silly. But it has never been determined that if presented with one as a gift from his fans after a concerted effort on their part, that he would say no. From what I understand, many of the recent stars "given" were the result of fan based efforts. So, really we could all just safely assume he doesn't have one simply because "we" have never given him one- this is as likely an assumption (at this point) as saying he doesn't want one.
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Reply #13 posted 03/04/07 12:15pm

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I have to agree with you Paisley...I just realized recently that he doesn't have one and though I was a little amazed by that fact I figured that he must not want one or he certainly would have one by now...I would totally support an org initiative to present P with his own star. It is a media event in LA when the star is installed and it would be perfect i he is actually opening his own club. I wonder if any one from the 'Minneapolis Sound' stars have their own WOF stars???
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Reply #14 posted 03/04/07 3:24pm

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I brought this same topic up when I was using the name Bluefeather49. I sent in all the information that was needed and got no response. This was at the time that the original Love41another was started and I let Prince know what was in the works back then, about the star.(No answer). if you to try again please do, but you ahve to get in touch with him, I'm quite sure he'll let you know how he feels about it. If he now says go for it, I'll back you and any way I can. Back then this was the PPml. (PaisleyParkMailinglist). Those were the days! lol
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Reply #15 posted 03/04/07 3:47pm

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One of the requirements by the "committee" is that the "star" show
up at the induction. I can see Prince laughing at being told that
he HAS to show up if he wants one...
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Reply #16 posted 03/04/07 5:21pm

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Tozure51 said:

I brought this same topic up when I was using the name Bluefeather49. I sent in all the information that was needed and got no response. This was at the time that the original Love41another was started and I let Prince know what was in the works back then, about the star.(No answer). if you to try again please do, but you ahve to get in touch with him, I'm quite sure he'll let you know how he feels about it. If he now says go for it, I'll back you and any way I can. Back then this was the PPml. (PaisleyParkMailinglist). Those were the days! lol


thank you. That's the closest to an effort I've heard of. Who did you send the info to? As I said in my original post, that's the hard part. I'd like to think if we could get enough people interested in really doing this, then someone by 6 degrees of separation or whatever, could run it by him before we start collecting money. Generally, getting the celeb's approval would go through a press agent or manager, but my understanding is that he generally doesn't keep either of those on payroll anymore. I have no clue where to begin with getting it in front of him. We would first need either an online petition or website- possibly even a forum here- for people to pledge their support. Once we have 25,000 people willing to give one dollar, or half that willing to give $2, then we would need to approach him. We'd have to have his agreement before actually collecting money since that could be a problem if it didn't happen. Also need non-profit status to collect the money. Obviously, it is a big project but I know there are plenty of smart, organized people around here and a motivated team of a few people could do it. The application itself is the easy part- look at the sample on the website. He obviously would be accepted.
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Reply #17 posted 03/04/07 5:34pm

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If he wanted one, he'd have one by now.
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Reply #18 posted 03/04/07 6:00pm

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Genesia said:

If he wanted one, he'd have one by now.


I'm sorry, but I have to make my point again-
The only way he'd have one by now is if he bought it himself. We all know he would never do that. His fans have never organized enough to buy one FOR him. That's basically the way it's done when the stars don't buy their own. Please see the website for details. It's not a committee or anything to decide who gets nominated to get one. ANYONE can submit the application, as long as the star agrees with the effort (i.e. agrees to show up for the installation). So no, I don't- at this stage- believe for a second that if he would want one, he'd have it, since I also don't think he'd ever ask us to do it. (Although when researching previous posts on this, I saw someone mention mention that a few years back there was some talk from his "people" asking for support for this. Since I myself have no recollection of that, I do not know it to be true. And it did not sound as if any real concerted "campaign" was launched).
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Reply #19 posted 03/04/07 6:19pm

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ejnbmore said:

I have to agree with you Paisley...I just realized recently that he doesn't have one and though I was a little amazed by that fact I figured that he must not want one or he certainly would have one by now...I would totally support an org initiative to present P with his own star. It is a media event in LA when the star is installed and it would be perfect i he is actually opening his own club. I wonder if any one from the 'Minneapolis Sound' stars have their own WOF stars???


This would be perfect except we've already missed this years application period. They have already begun accepting noms for 2008. and yes to your ?,
Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis 6363 Hollywood Blvd.


HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME COMMITTEE ACCEPTS
WALK OF FAME NOMINATIONS FOR YEAR 2008
All Nomination Forms Must Be Submitted By May 31, 2007
To Be Considered In June 2007 Selection Meeting

Here's some more info for those who don't want to read through the HWOF website:

Q: What is the cost of a Walk of Fame star ceremony?
A: $25,000 upon selection. The money is used to pay for the creation and installation of the star, as well as maintenance of the Walk of Fame.
(So the money is used to make the star, put it in place and keep it clean).

Q: How long after someone has been nominated will the ceremony take place?
A: The recipient has up to five years to schedule their ceremony. If it is not done within the five-year period, it will expire and an application must be resubmitted. (so he could choose to do it right away or wait 5 years, which gives him some sense of control).

Q: How often are stars voted in?
A: Stars are voted in once a year in June. An average of 20 stars are selected per year. (out of about 200 applications- I have no doubt he'd be accepted immediately, but just in case...see next).

Q: If a nominee isn’t selected during the voting process, do I have to re-submit the application for the following year?
A: The application is effective for two years. If, after two years, the nominee is still not selected, the applicant can file a new application or send a letter requesting that the application be reinstated. Updates on the recipients are accepted and included in their file.

Here's the page link to who has stars already in the recording category. For the most part, it's a pretty respectable list- including the likes of James Brown, Earth Wind and Fire, Queen, Elton John, Carlos Santana, etc.
http://www.tibp.com/cgi-b...tegory=Rec
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Reply #20 posted 03/04/07 7:00pm

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I totally agree with u paisley... If u were to get this started I will gladly donate towards my hero’s star that’s way over due
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Reply #21 posted 03/04/07 7:11pm

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paisley16 said:

Genesia said:

If he wanted one, he'd have one by now.


I'm sorry, but I have to make my point again-
The only way he'd have one by now is if he bought it himself. We all know he would never do that. His fans have never organized enough to buy one FOR him.


I'm sorry -- but that's a pile of crap. You think the fans of all those other folks who have stars bought them for them? Please. lol Their studios bought them...or their record labels...or somebody else who had a vested interest in the publicity it would bring. And if WB never bought one for Prince, you can be damn sure it was because he didn't want one.
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Reply #22 posted 03/04/07 7:41pm

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Genesia said:

paisley16 said:



I'm sorry, but I have to make my point again-
The only way he'd have one by now is if he bought it himself. We all know he would never do that. His fans have never organized enough to buy one FOR him.


I'm sorry -- but that's a pile of crap. You think the fans of all those other folks who have stars bought them for them? Please. lol Their studios bought them...or their record labels...or somebody else who had a vested interest in the publicity it would bring. And if WB never bought one for Prince, you can be damn sure it was because he didn't want one.


I'm sorry-- but I don't think you are really thinking this through- or reading all the posts I've made. I agree- if Warners had suggested it years ago, he might have said no. But we don't know if that happened. Prince severed his deal with Warner's a long time ago, so who really knows how he'd feel about it NOW? My whole point is that we just don't know. He hasn't had an official outside press agent or manager in quite awhile either (from what I understand). So in that respect, he's a perfect candidate for a fan-based effort because there is no record label or other agent to nominate him. I believe he has become much more comfortable over recent years with his Hollywood status, and just might accept a gift of a star. He's not the "rude boy" he once was. Take a look at those pics from the Oscars party, that man was courting the camera without a doubt. When have we ever seen that many nice shots of him in Hollywood? He is all over L.A. these days, smiling as well. biggrin

And yes, some of those people got their stars from fan-based efforts or paid themselves.

and I have to say again- DO NOT get me wrong, I'm not obsessed with this idea or feel it's that important in the big picture, but he does deserve to be there since the WOF does exist and has and will for a very long time. Think of how nice it would be for his fans to be able to go see it when they visit L.A., and how much nicer if we all knew it was there due to our efforts?
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Reply #23 posted 03/04/07 7:56pm

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paisley16 said:

Genesia said:



I'm sorry -- but that's a pile of crap. You think the fans of all those other folks who have stars bought them for them? Please. lol Their studios bought them...or their record labels...or somebody else who had a vested interest in the publicity it would bring. And if WB never bought one for Prince, you can be damn sure it was because he didn't want one.


I'm sorry-- but I don't think you are really thinking this through- or reading all the posts I've made. I agree- if Warners had suggested it years ago, he might have said no. But we don't know if that happened. Prince severed his deal with Warner's a long time ago, so who really knows how he'd feel about it NOW? My whole point is that we just don't know. He hasn't had an official outside press agent or manager in quite awhile either (from what I understand). So in that respect, he's a perfect candidate for a fan-based effort because there is no record label or other agent to nominate him. I believe he has become much more comfortable over recent years with his Hollywood status, and just might accept a gift of a star. He's not the "rude boy" he once was. Take a look at those pics from the Oscars party, that man was courting the camera without a doubt. When have we ever seen that many nice shots of him in Hollywood? He is all over L.A. these days, smiling as well. biggrin

And yes, some of those people got their stars from fan-based efforts or paid themselves.

and I have to say again- DO NOT get me wrong, I'm not obsessed with this idea or feel it's that important in the big picture, but he does deserve to be there since the WOF does exist and has and will for a very long time. Think of how nice it would be for his fans to be able to go see it when they visit L.A., and how much nicer if we all knew it was there due to our efforts?


I know as a longtime fan I was seriously looking for his star while in LA. I just so happened to check the WOF website and was confused when I couldn't find him listed...I'm an engineer by trade and look at landmarks permanently installed in pavement as a monument of sorts. I just wanted to take a picture of it... I'm sure I'm not the only fan that would. The peole who post here seem very loyal and supportive, not fanatical. I think Paisley is absolutely right. It's worth it just to know finally what Prince decides....Go for it Paisley!!!!!
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paisley16 said:

Genesia said:



I'm sorry -- but that's a pile of crap. You think the fans of all those other folks who have stars bought them for them? Please. lol Their studios bought them...or their record labels...or somebody else who had a vested interest in the publicity it would bring. And if WB never bought one for Prince, you can be damn sure it was because he didn't want one.


I'm sorry-- but I don't think you are really thinking this through- or reading all the posts I've made. I agree- if Warners had suggested it years ago, he might have said no. But we don't know if that happened. Prince severed his deal with Warner's a long time ago, so who really knows how he'd feel about it NOW? My whole point is that we just don't know. He hasn't had an official outside press agent or manager in quite awhile either (from what I understand). So in that respect, he's a perfect candidate for a fan-based effort because there is no record label or other agent to nominate him. I believe he has become much more comfortable over recent years with his Hollywood status, and just might accept a gift of a star. He's not the "rude boy" he once was. Take a look at those pics from the Oscars party, that man was courting the camera without a doubt. When have we ever seen that many nice shots of him in Hollywood? He is all over L.A. these days, smiling as well. biggrin

And yes, some of those people got their stars from fan-based efforts or paid themselves.

and I have to say again- DO NOT get me wrong, I'm not obsessed with this idea or feel it's that important in the big picture, but he does deserve to be there since the WOF does exist and has and will for a very long time. Think of how nice it would be for his fans to be able to go see it when they visit L.A., and how much nicer if we all knew it was there due to our efforts?


Geez...I wonder if you could be just a little more condescending? The only reason someone would disagree with you is because they haven't thought it through? Check me if I'm wrong -- but I think you just called me stupid.

Well, how's this. Buying Prince a star on the Walk of Fame is moronic. If he wanted one, he'd have one. And asking his fans to band together and pony up $25,000 when the man, himself, has millions is beyond moronic.

And believe, I really thought about that answer. rolleyes
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I know as a longtime fan I was seriously looking for his star while in LA. I just so happened to check the WOF website and was confused when I couldn't find him listed...I'm an engineer by trade and look at landmarks permanently installed in pavement as a monument of sorts. I just wanted to take a picture of it... I'm sure I'm not the only fan that would. The peole who post here seem very loyal and supportive, not fanatical. I think Paisley is absolutely right. It's worth it just to know finally what Prince decides....Go for it Paisley!!!!!


Thank you for the support! But please, spread the word. We would need a lot of people on board to raise $25,000 and people to handle different aspects of this effort- but it ultimately comes down to two things- a website and/or online petition for pledges, and getting the finished effort in front of Prince for his approval.
I agree there are plenty of loyal people here- which is why I think this is the best place to start, and the place that would deserve the credit, but I have to say- this post has been here since last night and you are only one of a couple who has expressed support. It seems to me that there are too many of the mindset that Prince has no interest in getting one of these- even though there is no evidence of this- when really I think it's just as likely that he doesn't have one because his fans are too high and mighty to pull together and get him one.

Okay, I'm editing this message- but not removing my original comments. I don't want to anyone to be offended by the "high & mighty" remark. I have no wish whatsoever to turn this into an argument with anyone here. My point is simply that any theory is an assumption at this point. It is perfectly possible that a fan-based effort would gain his approval. It is just as possible that it would not. At this point, we truly do not know. I, for one, would like to find out.
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paisley16 said:



Geez...I wonder if you could be just a little more condescending? The only reason someone would disagree with you is because they haven't thought it through? Check me if I'm wrong -- but I think you just called me stupid.

Well, how's this. Buying Prince a star on the Walk of Fame is moronic. If he wanted one, he'd have one. And asking his fans to band together and pony up $25,000 when the man, himself, has millions is beyond moronic.

And believe, I really thought about that answer. rolleyes


I absolutely did not call you stupid. I have total respect for you, I notice your thoughts around here all the time. I sincerely apologize if I sounded condescending, it was not my intent.
I just disagree with the theory that if he wanted one, he'd have one. I, myself, don't expect or want him to buy one for himself- or ask us to do it. What's a dollar or 2 to people- we spend plenty more than that on him for shows, etc? If you look at how many albums he sells with each release- even the lowest- that would only take a small percentage of his fan base to raise that amount.
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Reply #27 posted 03/05/07 8:39pm

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If the fans got this thing rollin...he might care enough to want it. But since it hasnt happened by anyone's accord, why bother at this point?
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Reply #28 posted 03/05/07 9:16pm

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If the fans got this thing rollin...he might care enough to want it. But since it hasnt happened by anyone's accord, why bother at this point?

Principle of the matter and the deserving factor. I'm not one to beat a dead horse but everyone I've contacted seems to think Prince maybe more receptive now especially with all of the attention he's allowing...I'm doing research along with Paisley to make some progress on this effort. We would love anybody else whose willing and able to spread the word. I don't think Prince should know about this until we as a group get the petition accomplished.....and if you're not in favor I understand totally. I just think its worth a try...
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Reply #29 posted 03/05/07 9:45pm

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paisley16 said:

And come on, isn't simply having your own club and restaurant in Las Vegas -of all places- sort of placing yourself out for "worship" in a way?

His impact on Hollywood- which is what the stars represent- has been massive.



Then, by your standard, anyone who promotes a restaurant at a tourist venue near an entertainment venue has placed themselves out for worship in a way? Last time I was I was in Las Vegas, I saw restaurants fronted by Ronald McDonald and Colonel Sanders.

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Steven Spielberg's impact on Hollywood has been massive. Clint Eastwood's impact on Hollywood has been massive. Sidney Poitier's impact on Hollywood has been massive. Not one of them has had any impact on the music business. Prince has had a massive impact on the music business -- which ain't Hollywood. In the overall scheme of things, his impact on Hollywood has been miniscule.

If the stars on the sidewalk represent impact on Hollywood, then you'll need to refresh my memory about the massive impact that such honorees as Donald Trump and Ryan Seacrest and Vanna White have had.
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