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Thread started 05/15/06 9:30pm

MickG

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I like Musicology better then 3121

Am I the only one?
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
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Reply #1 posted 05/15/06 10:52pm

calin

No.
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Reply #2 posted 05/16/06 3:37am

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Hey Mick,
calin said no.
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Reply #3 posted 05/16/06 3:59am

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same here. easily.
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Reply #4 posted 05/16/06 6:34am

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Me too! Been saying it for ages. Despite all the hoo-ha about the actual "3121" track, I think Musicology actually is a bit more experimental and personal.
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Reply #5 posted 05/16/06 7:00am

WildheartXXX

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I think Musicology has more songs i think of a higher standard i just don't like the flat production of it though and it lacks personality, whereas 3121 is a much brighter album.
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Reply #6 posted 05/16/06 7:59am

CaptainJack

Me too!
It's much better than 3121!
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Reply #7 posted 05/16/06 8:39am

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Musicology isn't the worst pop album he's ever made, but it's easily the least ambitious. It's almost depressing to listen to.

It always makes me imagine this desperate aging singer trying so hard to not turn off any listeners because he feels like this is his last best chance for a comeback.

As far as pop records go, 3121 is simply so much better in every way.

It sounds fresher, it has more energy, and Prince sounds about ten times as inspired on it.

With 3121, it's like, he didn't succeed in making a great album, but at least it really sounds like he tried. Musicology sounds like he was only aiming for an album that didn't suck.

[Edited 5/16/06 8:40am]
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Reply #8 posted 05/16/06 8:45am

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Strange, after listening to 3121 I seem to like Musicology better than before.
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Reply #9 posted 05/16/06 10:22am

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SexualSuicide said:

Strange, after listening to 3121 I seem to like Musicology better than before.




Its funny how you can get opposite views from orgers on Prince albums, but i tend to agree with you on this one,
I enjoy listening to Musicology apart from maybe Life O the party.
3121 im not enjoying at all apart from The dance the rest is poor IMO.
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Reply #10 posted 05/16/06 10:43am

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Yes. 3121 is much more listenable and has less filler IMO.
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Reply #11 posted 05/16/06 11:22am

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barf barf barf
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Reply #12 posted 05/16/06 4:05pm

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MickG said:

Am I the only one?


your right
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Reply #13 posted 05/16/06 4:07pm

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I cannot listen to Musicology at all, except for Life O Party. 3121's got my ears.
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Reply #14 posted 05/16/06 4:09pm

luv4all7

I like 'em both the same.
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Reply #15 posted 05/16/06 6:11pm

lovesexyq

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I actually like 3121 better. It's more exciting.
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Reply #16 posted 05/16/06 6:55pm

BSK3601

PurpleKnight said:

Musicology isn't the worst pop album he's ever made, but it's easily the least ambitious. It's almost depressing to listen to.

It always makes me imagine this desperate aging singer trying so hard to not turn off any listeners because he feels like this is his last best chance for a comeback.

As far as pop records go, 3121 is simply so much better in every way.

It sounds fresher, it has more energy, and Prince sounds about ten times as inspired on it.

With 3121, it's like, he didn't succeed in making a great album, but at least it really sounds like he tried. Musicology sounds like he was only aiming for an album that didn't suck.

[Edited 5/16/06 8:40am]


I find it funny as hell that in every 3121 thread you go out of your way to keep from saying that you think he made a great album .

... "It sounds fresh, inspired, etc.... however, it's like a 33 milliseconds away from being great.."

Just admit that you think it's a great album and stop all that roundabout bullshit... evillol

For the record, I only care for 4 songs on the album and I think Musicology was better.
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Reply #17 posted 05/16/06 7:08pm

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BSK3601 said:

PurpleKnight said:

Musicology isn't the worst pop album he's ever made, but it's easily the least ambitious. It's almost depressing to listen to.

It always makes me imagine this desperate aging singer trying so hard to not turn off any listeners because he feels like this is his last best chance for a comeback.

As far as pop records go, 3121 is simply so much better in every way.

It sounds fresher, it has more energy, and Prince sounds about ten times as inspired on it.

With 3121, it's like, he didn't succeed in making a great album, but at least it really sounds like he tried. Musicology sounds like he was only aiming for an album that didn't suck.

[Edited 5/16/06 8:40am]


I find it funny as hell that in every 3121 thread you go out of your way to keep from saying that you think he made a great album .

... "It sounds fresh, inspired, etc.... however, it's like a 33 milliseconds away from being great.."

Just admit that you think it's a great album and stop all that roundabout bullshit... evillol

For the record, I only care for 4 songs on the album and I think Musicology was better.


Why would I have to admit anything? I WANT to think a Prince album is great. I just can't convince myself that 3121 is.
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Reply #18 posted 05/16/06 7:26pm

BSK3601

PurpleKnight said:

BSK3601 said:



I find it funny as hell that in every 3121 thread you go out of your way to keep from saying that you think he made a great album .

... "It sounds fresh, inspired, etc.... however, it's like a 33 milliseconds away from being great.."

Just admit that you think it's a great album and stop all that roundabout bullshit... evillol

For the record, I only care for 4 songs on the album and I think Musicology was better.


Why would I have to admit anything? I WANT to think a Prince album is great. I just can't convince myself that 3121 is.


You don't have to admit anything. It just seems like if that's the way you truly felt, you would just simply say.. "hmmm... it's an okay album" and leave it at that. But almost every one of your posts indicates that you are you're trying to convince yourself that it isn't a great album.
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Reply #19 posted 05/16/06 7:28pm

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Well I like Musicology but I love 3121. Both are very solid albums but the big difference between Musicology and 3121 is that Prince sounds like he's having fun on 3121 where Prince sounds like he's serious about proving that he's still got it on Musicology and it makes the CD sound safe and a little unexciting. Just my take on the issue.
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Reply #20 posted 05/16/06 7:53pm

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I like them both. What can I say I'm into prince's stuff. Musicology was the best album out that year and 3121 is the best album this year (IMO).
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Reply #21 posted 05/16/06 8:11pm

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kpowers said:

I like them both. What can I say I'm into prince's stuff. Musicology was the best album out that year and 3121 is the best album this year (IMO).

I totally agree with that. thumbs up!
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Reply #22 posted 05/17/06 12:24am

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BSK3601 said:

PurpleKnight said:



Why would I have to admit anything? I WANT to think a Prince album is great. I just can't convince myself that 3121 is.


You don't have to admit anything. It just seems like if that's the way you truly felt, you would just simply say.. "hmmm... it's an okay album" and leave it at that. But almost every one of your posts indicates that you are you're trying to convince yourself that it isn't a great album.


That's your own (ridiculous) interpretation. The truth is that 3121 is a very good album to me that falls just shy of being great.
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Reply #23 posted 05/17/06 2:52am

CCCP

Musicology is Borring.. 3121 is not..That's my opinion
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Reply #24 posted 05/17/06 3:13am

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Musicology wins in my ears. 3121 is too retro and "been here before".

3121 is the first Prince album where you could compare nearly every track with a track that has been released before.

With 3121, people hear days of wild.
With Lolita, people hear The Bird.
With Te Amo, the cords Money Don't Matter
With Black sweat....The Work Part 1

and so on..... Good album, but hardly moving forward.
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Reply #25 posted 05/17/06 4:05am

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I listened to Musicology a bit, and quite enjoyed it, but I keep listening to 3121 - that basically says it all.
I have mixed feelings about quite a few songs, but it's just a much more exciting album.
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Reply #26 posted 05/17/06 5:18am

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SquirrelMeat said:

Musicology wins in my ears. 3121 is too retro and "been here before".

3121 is the first Prince album where you could compare nearly every track with a track that has been released before.

With 3121, people hear days of wild.
With Lolita, people hear The Bird.
With Te Amo, the cords Money Don't Matter
With Black sweat....The Work Part 1

and so on..... Good album, but hardly moving forward.



Very true. But I think Musicology is Prince on cruise control.
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Reply #27 posted 05/17/06 6:46am

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SquirrelMeat said:

Musicology wins in my ears. 3121 is too retro and "been here before".

3121 is the first Prince album where you could compare nearly every track with a track that has been released before.

With 3121, people hear days of wild.
With Lolita, people hear The Bird.
With Te Amo, the cords Money Don't Matter
With Black sweat....The Work Part 1

and so on..... Good album, but hardly moving forward.


I'd actually say that a lot more about Musicology.

Musicology sounds like the same JB retro track he's done a million times before, and it even lifts a synth line from My Computer.

A Million Days sounds just like Dolphin, Call My Name is a clone of Insatiable, etc.

I don't hear many Prince songs that sound like Fury or The Word.
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Reply #28 posted 05/17/06 7:05am

u2prnce

Me too.
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Reply #29 posted 05/17/06 7:58am

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PurpleKnight said:

Musicology isn't the worst pop album he's ever made, but it's easily the least ambitious. It's almost depressing to listen to.

It always makes me imagine this desperate aging singer trying so hard to not turn off any listeners because he feels like this is his last best chance for a comeback.

As far as pop records go, 3121 is simply so much better in every way.

It sounds fresher, it has more energy, and Prince sounds about ten times as inspired on it.

With 3121, it's like, he didn't succeed in making a great album, but at least it really sounds like he tried. Musicology sounds like he was only aiming for an album that didn't suck.

[Edited 5/16/06 8:40am]


lol

Right, like your second sentence doesn't perfectly sum up 3121.

I agree with those who think Musicology a better album. I don't think there's a pop song as good as What Do You Want Me To Do on 3121 nor is the musicianship on 3121 nearly as compelling at Musicology. Musicology has some clunkers and I'd hardly say it's essential Prince, but the latter half of the album is great and Reflection is a great closer and far more personal than anything on 3121.

Musicology isn't his best work or best pop album, but it's far more accomplished than the desperate, last ditch effort for pop acceptance that's found on 3121.
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