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Universal Preps Prince's "3121" Album for Major Marketing Campaign 3121...more info than you can handle!
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uh oh |
I may be blasted for this but I don't care. After reading that list I honestly believe that if Prince follows it, his album will be commercially successful. How can it not be. It would be literally shoved down the public's throat. The die hards will be there for him anyway and would definitely enjoy the ride, but those mindless young MTV'rs will grasp anything that is "shoved" in their face. Don't tell 'em...they don't really wanna know. |
NPD313 said: •MTV Unplugged from the house and VMA performance from his house via satellite • Making The Video for next single. • Possible Storytellers from the house... leaked Music 2 my ears  [Edited 1/28/06 1:33am] |
Also the infamous sex tape with Carmen will b leaked |
Sounds great. Out of curiosity, what is your source?
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The new orger Tangerine17 posted this (and various info on the new GH). The original thread was deleted but since the PPs have confirmed this (as a wish list), I guess it can stay. |
My Love got me out of my Funk.....I am geraing up fast and furious for this tour...PLEASE let us Know in Advance any Performances so if any fans gotta book Hotels and airfare/trains we Can and Not let the $$$$ Kill Our Pocketbooks....I'm With Ya Purple Man....All THE WAY.... |
NPD313 said: 3121...more info than you can handle!
UNIVERSAL MUSIC GROUP'S EXPECTATIONS ON PRINCE'S PROMOTIONAL CAMPAIGN FOR THE UPCOMING ALBUM! Radio: 2/7 add date for 'Black Sweat'. Vinyl will be serviced to clubs and mixshows Video: 'Black Sweat' will impact BET, VH1 and MTV mid February • MTV Unplugged from the house and VMA performance from his house via satellite • Making The Video for next single. • Possible Storytellers from the house... New Media: • Never before done retail campaign beg. Feb 7th with 6-week global iTunes pre-order. Digital 'purple ticket' promotion • Mutli-tiered countdown on AOL music kicking off with First listen world premiere of single • Superstar feature placement of 'Black Sweat' video on major online partners including Yahoo! Music, AOL Music,MySpace, Apple iTunes... • Aggressive online promotions campaign hitting music, lifestyle and tastemaker blogs & sites Press: • Targets will include: 60 Minutes, CBS Sunday Morning, Ellen, Good Morning America, Larry King Live, Oprah, SNL, Today Show, Tonight Show • MAJOR '3121' TV Special in progress.... details TBA Marketing: • Heavy media campaign to include major market advertising w/ • TV • radio • Snipes in top 10 markets • Print • Purple Ticket promotion: "An Evening With Prince - A private performance at Prince's house". (7 winning tickets will be inserted into the initial run of CDs.) Tour: Worldwide tour begins in May *** "Nothing is confirmed..." Says Spokesperson of Prince's camp NPGMusicClub. Though they (NPGMC) stated that: This is a "wish list" Universal created and is using on a sales page 2 start taking orders from retail for the new album. We xpected it 2 b leaked online (because everything from Universal gets leaked eventually). But again, "NOTHING is confirmed yet" *** - Says NPGMC I just thought this little portion should be in bold print. Otherwise people will start bitchin' when every single thing on this "WISH LIST" doesn't happen. . [Edited 1/28/06 6:09am] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I'll play it first and tell you what it is later. -Miles Davis- |
hummm seems like a bit o' wishful thinking. but who knows?
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1nonly said: I may be blasted for this but I don't care. After reading that list I honestly believe that if Prince follows it, his album will be commercially successful. How can it not be. It would be literally shoved down the public's throat. The die hards will be there for him anyway and would definitely enjoy the ride, but those mindless young MTV'rs will grasp anything that is "shoved" in their face.
Not necessarilly. If that was the case this guy would be huge in the US, 
Sometimes things hit, sometimes they don't. |
talk2bill2 said: hummm seems like a bit o' wishful thinking. but who knows?
do they even do Unpulged or Storytellers anymore? unplugged is now "unplugged 2.0" and storytellers comes around every so often. I don't think either show is as huge as it used to be, but they have new episodes every now and then |
Prince is cool. |
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at least more and more people will get to know Prince when he's not going through a wierd phase....and those tickets sound hot |
Who cares about the marketing? Will the album be any good? Is it funky? |
jdcxc said: Who cares about the marketing? Will the album be any good? Is it funky?
There will be no funk punk. |
Universaluv said: 1nonly said: I may be blasted for this but I don't care. After reading that list I honestly believe that if Prince follows it, his album will be commercially successful. How can it not be. It would be literally shoved down the public's throat. The die hards will be there for him anyway and would definitely enjoy the ride, but those mindless young MTV'rs will grasp anything that is "shoved" in their face.
Not necessarilly. If that was the case this guy would be huge in the US,
Sometimes things hit, sometimes they don't. Hey, is that Robbie (something) guy? |
i am not trying p1ss on anyone's chips, but sales notes are to be taken with a pinch of salt. i work at a record company and these things are basically cut n paste jobs. you just change the artist and project name. they usually come on several flavours;
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This sounds awesome! I can't wait! |
Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
...And i'm gonna be groovy in it! |
At last, proper promotion!! |
7 Golden Tickets?
Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. |
NPD313 said: 7 winning tickets will be inserted into the initial run of CDs
Whats this, Wonka bars? www.goldiesparade.co.uk - 3121 |
Personally, I don't like sharing Prince with the mainstream. I really like that I can tell someone that I like Prince, and their response is, "Really? Is he still making music? I remember going to see him in concert when Purple Rain was out." That just happened to me last week. It made me feel wonderful, for some reason.
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respectful edit. Christian Zombie Vampires |
This is great news if it happens and I hope it does. I've said it befoe and I'll say it again, he needs to go where the kids are. He needs to go on TRL and 106th and Park and perform. He don't need to talk, just perform and show them 15 year olds what time it is.
Prince.org is a cemetery where folks mourn Prince instead of celebrate him and his music. Last time I checked, Prince isn't dead yet.
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I agree... I hope this is FUNKY as can be...
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GoldiesParade said: NPD313 said: 7 winning tickets will be inserted into the initial run of CDs
Whats this, Wonka bars? We're going to the Roadhouse Garden!  Ooh, little darlin' if you're
free 4 a couple of hours (Free 4 a couple of hours) If U ain't busy 4 the next 7 years (Next 7 years) Say, let's pretend we're married and go all night |
sosgemini said: 7 Golden Tickets?
[Edited 1/29/06 9:29am] It's Charlie! Hi, Charlie!! |
GoldiesParade said: NPD313 said: 7 winning tickets will be inserted into the initial run of CDs
Whats this, Wonka bars? Everyone is always stealing my ideas.  |
On the bright side, Prince will be the only strange little man at Paisley Park unless he has Oompa Loompas working there. No More Haters on the Internet. |
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i doubt that half of that stuff will even happen! |
Milty said: i doubt that half of that stuff will even happen!
PARTY POOP! |
NME said: ...flakyness.
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littlemissG said: On the bright side, Prince will be the only strange little man at Paisley Park unless he has Oompa Loompas working there.
Prince ISN'T an Oompa Loompa ?  Check out Chocadelica , updated with Lotusflow3r and MPLSound album lyrics April 2nd 2009 :
http://homepage.ntlworld....home2.html |
SammiJ said: Milty said: i doubt that half of that stuff will even happen!
PARTY POOP!  |
All of this promotion is a little too hard ot beleive. I dont even think he did all this when EMANCIPATION came out. Also, since WHEN has BET and MTV played a Prince video at any legnth? I would love to see him promoted properly but this sounds like over exposure. Nevertheless, it will be interesting to see how much of this REALLY happens |
It's so grand you half expect to read Prince will cross the Gibraltar Strait on a high wire. |
you know what? i don't know if i like the Prince that subtetly embraces the music industry. i like it when he does things his own way. the days of the 80s music machine is kind old to me now. |
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7 tickets.... 3+1+2+1=7.....
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LoveAlive said: All of this promotion is a little too hard ot beleive. I dont even think he did all this when EMANCIPATION came out. Also, since WHEN has BET and MTV played a Prince video at any legnth? I would love to see him promoted properly but this sounds like over exposure. Nevertheless, it will be interesting to see how much of this REALLY happens
Well, remember, that's how the media works these days. It takes the most inane, dumb song (Shake That Laffy Taffy, My Humps, et al.) and they put it at the top of the charts for like 2-3 weeks, and then it disappears. The only difference here is that this time it will happen to someone who actually has the chops. |
sosgemini said: 7 Golden Tickets?
[Edited 1/29/06 9:29am] That's funny! I was thinking the exact same thing! Marvelous things await U! [Edited 1/29/06 12:47pm] [Edited 1/29/06 12:48pm] |
TheBigBang said: Personally, I don't like sharing Prince with the mainstream. I really like that I can tell someone that I like Prince, and their response is, "Really? Is he still making music? I remember going to see him in concert when Purple Rain was out." That just happened to me last week. It made me feel wonderful, for some reason.
But I would really love to see Prince do a Storytellers or Unplugged session. And seeing him do the talk show rounds again would be fun, too. Yes, it has two sides, hasn't it? Would be great to see him everywhere, but let's say he'll be really big for some time again, then long-time fans and the casual new ones will be one. And God forbid that the album isn't all that, you'll have to explain yourself even more to other (serious) music fans. But why am I bitching, just bring it on!  |
Will he strategically place those 7 CDs w/TiX in specific cities to boost sales
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MTV Unplugged woul dbe enough for me. Wow. |
origmnd said: Will he strategically place those 7 CDs w/TiX in specific cities to boost sales
in "slow" markets or will he put them all in NY to get the wildest fans at his house? That is one of those things from the list that I can't see happening. At least not like this. Maybe you can win a visit to his house and see a gig but I doubt that there will really be tickets in the actual CDs. |
sometimes i wonder why the lot of yall are on this site... claiming to be fans...
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SammiJ said: sometimes i wonder why the lot of yall are on this site... claiming to be fans...
 i unno... just wonderin.
don't bother answering if all you're going 2 do is flame 
that's just tired... i hear complaints constantly about not enough promotion this not enough that... maybe he caught wind of it... now he's a promoting machine, and there's nothing but negativity going around he's appearing on shows, and you got nothing but hate like wtf are u here for? really? just my  because the term "fan" is defined by each of us individually. Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. |
sosgemini said: SammiJ said: sometimes i wonder why the lot of yall are on this site... claiming to be fans...
i unno... just wonderin.
don't bother answering if all you're going 2 do is flame
that's just tired... i hear complaints constantly about not enough promotion this not enough that... maybe he caught wind of it... now he's a promoting machine, and there's nothing but negativity going around he's appearing on shows, and you got nothing but hate like wtf are u here for? really? just my because the term "fan" is defined by each of us individually. hmmmm alright. |
SammiJ said: sosgemini said: because the term "fan" is defined by each of us individually. hmmmm alright.  Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. |
If this info is true, then it will be a great year in Princeville.  Wave your wildsigns high!! |
Posthumous said: uh oh
u damn right if u have a purple ticket dont tell me because literally i would kill 4 that ticket if someone sells it on ebay i would pay my entire life saving on it hav u had ur + sign 2 day.
 wish u heaven
 GOD
Purplerain7772001 |
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Since the last Prince album with this kind of promotion was such a steaming pile of mediocrity, will those fair-weather fans return? I really don't think so. Purple Fact #542: Prince can make a Weeble™ fall down. |
"Shut Up, Already. DAMMM!!!!!!!" |
I just hope the music will be worthy of the kind of marketing campaign that is "potentially" being offered by Universal. If Universal gets behind the project the way it is being described in this leak, then that is hopefully an indication that Universal has heard the music and really believes it has a lot of potential. "You've got to believe in something... why not believe in me?" |
squirrelgrease said: Since the last Prince album with this kind of promotion was such a steaming pile of mediocrity, will those fair-weather fans return? I really don't think so.
I hear what you're saying. But regardless of whether or not the fair-weather fans really dug the last album, the Musicology tour reminded a lot of people of Prince's greatness. And because of that, I think many people will be inclined to give Prince another listen... provided the new music hits hard enough to keep people's attention... unlike Te Amo Corozon. "You've got to believe in something... why not believe in me?" |
FutureShock said: squirrelgrease said: Since the last Prince album with this kind of promotion was such a steaming pile of mediocrity, will those fair-weather fans return? I really don't think so.
I hear what you're saying. But regardless of whether or not the fair-weather fans really dug the last album, the Musicology tour reminded a lot of people of Prince's greatness. And because of that, I think many people will be inclined to give Prince another listen... provided the new music hits hard enough to keep people's attention... unlike Te Amo Corozon. :fingerscrossed: Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. |
If Prince.Org shuts down, I'm writing SLAVE on my left buttcheek! |
Prince only needs to do one thing on that list for the album to be a big hit and that's go on Oprah...in the 80's getting heavy rotation om MTV used to be the big thing to do now its to be on the Oprah show.... Check it out ...Shiny Toy Guns R gonna blowup VERY soon and bring melody back to music..you heard it here 1st! http://www.myspacecomment...theone.mp3 |
Pondwater said: 
I'VE GOT THE PURPLE TICKET yeah.. the whole willy wonka thing sounds like a good idea. Im gonna have to buy a whole lot of CDs  |
I got your purple ticket hanging. Wave your wildsigns high!! |
be the change you wish to see in the world.....ghandi.
vi  |
Ok, 1 half of me is estactic that this may be happening but the other half, you know, the one that's been spoiled by the hardcore afterparties, ONA-type concerts, etc., is having a temper tantrum. Im happy that Prince is coming back publicly...commercially...whatever stronger than ever but can't help but feel like musically he is far away again... OK Prince. This year... if your ready, then Im ready.
RIP MJ and RIP NaNa |
1nonly said: I may be blasted for this but I don't care. After reading that list I honestly believe that if Prince follows it, his album will be commercially successful. How can it not be. It would be literally shoved down the public's throat. The die hards will be there for him anyway and would definitely enjoy the ride, but those mindless young MTV'rs will grasp anything that is "shoved" in their face.
Sometimes un-noticed genius needs to be "shoved down people's throat" |
GodzHand said: 1nonly said: I may be blasted for this but I don't care. After reading that list I honestly believe that if Prince follows it, his album will be commercially successful. How can it not be. It would be literally shoved down the public's throat. The die hards will be there for him anyway and would definitely enjoy the ride, but those mindless young MTV'rs will grasp anything that is "shoved" in their face.
Sometimes un-noticed genius needs to be "shoved down people's throat" Unfortunately, this is the way it is nowadays. And as for Robbie Williams, whoeve it was that posted his face and stated that he would have been successful, remember, for a short time he was. He was at least the flavor of the month when Millennium and Angels was out. But "flavor of the month" is common place nowadays. That's why there's so much throwaway music. Now, I ain't saying prince is gearing up some throwaway stuff (god, I hope not) but where being risque in the early 80's got people's attention, now blatant exposure in the media gets you the same results. If only a handful of the proposed items from the first post are done, then all is well. It should be successful on that alone, sad to say. I would prefer to merit success on musical level and ingenuity. In that respect, Prince would most always fare well. But, that's not the case nowadays. It must be force fed to young bucks who, unfortunately, wouldn't know good music if it wasn't slapped against their ears, and would barely recognize it if MTV said so. It's just so "Josie and the Pussycats" nowadays. Watch that movie and you'll know that I'm talking about. Funny thing, that movie didn't do well in the theatres. I wonder why not...then again, maybe I really don't. Don't tell 'em...they don't really wanna know. |
robbie williams was never the flavor of the month in the US. Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. |
sosgemini said: robbie williams was never the flavor of the month in the US.
thank God for that. it was hot garbage. Prince.org is a cemetery where folks mourn Prince instead of celebrate him and his music. Last time I checked, Prince isn't dead yet.
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1nonly said: It's just so "Josie and the Pussycats" nowadays. Watch that movie and you'll know that I'm talking about. Funny thing, that movie didn't do well in the theatres. I wonder why not...then again, maybe I really don't. That seems a pretty high price to pay for a little mutual understanding.   |
purplecam said: sosgemini said: robbie williams was never the flavor of the month in the US.
thank God for that. it was hot garbage. still better than the shit music that is hip.hop |
NME said: i am not trying p1ss on anyone's chips, but sales notes are to be taken with a pinch of salt. i work at a record company and these things are basically cut n paste jobs. you just change the artist and project name. they usually come on several flavours;
International Superstar campaign Domestic Priority Campaign Mid level MOR / Urban / Rock / enter genre here Breakthrough Campaign. i'm sure some of it will happen, but don't take it as fact. and that's without factoring in Prince's flakyness. ----- I am not sure why every is so skepitcal. Sony did a good job promoting the last project and I am sure Universal will do a good job with this. P's days of selling 10 million copies are over but if he can sell a few million and put out an enjoyable CD it's great. |
Let's do a little dance for the peacock ass artwork! |
Wow! All of this for an album that we all know is going to suck, just like every album (except exodus, gold experience and come) he's released since 1989. |
If the album is going to be good, why all the hype?
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CandaceS said:  I see this information has been "rehabilitated"!
Oprah?! He's gonna be on Oprah again?!  And 60 Minutes?!
"MAJOR '3121' TV Special in progress..." Don't neglect the last part that says... *** "Nothing is confirmed..." Says Spokesperson of Prince's camp NPGMusicClub. Though they (NPGMC) stated that: This is a "wish list" Universal created and is using on a sales page 2 start taking orders from retail for the new album. We xpected it 2 b leaked online (because everything from Universal gets leaked eventually). But again, "NOTHING is confirmed yet" *** - Says NPGMC |
RipHer2Shreds said: Don't neglect the last part that says... "NOTHING is confirmed yet" *** - Says NPGMC FIRST: kudos on the SPACE GIANTS avatar thingie.... 2ND: it is not so much that i am neglecting it... i just think the whole thing is a big fat lie. that prince had not even seen that info and that it was all made up almost none of it is planned or in the works. [Edited 1/30/06 8:13am] |
NPD313 said: • Possible Storytellers from the house...
"I wrote this next song... while pouring syrup on Cat's body..." |
i would be shocked if this list actually happened. i don't trust that list. it sounds way to good to be true.
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Universaluv said: 1nonly said: I may be blasted for this but I don't care. After reading that list I honestly believe that if Prince follows it, his album will be commercially successful. How can it not be. It would be literally shoved down the public's throat. The die hards will be there for him anyway and would definitely enjoy the ride, but those mindless young MTV'rs will grasp anything that is "shoved" in their face.
Not necessarilly. If that was the case this guy would be huge in the US,
Sometimes things hit, sometimes they don't. Thank God U Yankees have resisted the 'charms' of this Fat bastard , he aint nothin but a reject from a shitty boyband. The twat is nothin better than a PUB singer.. resist the machine that is the ROBSTER... |
Looks like Prince is going 2 be a busy boy, unless he totally rebels against Universals wish list for promotion. |
SPOOKYGAS said: Universaluv said: Not necessarilly. If that was the case this guy would be huge in the US, Sometimes things hit, sometimes they don't. Thank God U Yankees have resisted the 'charms' of this Fat bastard , he aint nothin but a reject from a shitty boyband. The twat is nothin better than a PUB singer.. resist the machine that is the ROBSTER... Every so often we do something right  .
In the late 90's MTV had pretty much proclaimed that he was the next big thing to hit the US. Specials, interviews, award show performances, the whole nine. He came, we saw, we sent him back. . [Edited 1/30/06 10:28am] |
Universaluv said: SPOOKYGAS said: Thank God U Yankees have resisted the 'charms' of this Fat bastard , he aint nothin but a reject from a shitty boyband. The twat is nothin better than a PUB singer.. resist the machine that is the ROBSTER... Every so often we do something right .
In the early 90's MTV had pretty much proclaimed that he was the next big thing to hit the US. Specials, interviews, award show performances, the whole nine. He came, we saw, we sent him back. NO NO NO.. take him back give him another listen ..please please we cant take much more of this JOKER... I have friends who swear he is TALENTED and others who no the truth (i.e. those who dont watch MTV VH1 Europe style) that this twat is having a laugh at our expense..jeezzz tha boy was the least talented in a very ordinary boy band.... accept him and he might bugger of to the States and I might get to listen to REAL music again over hear as the airwaves will be purified of this SHITE. Come on U are owe us 4 the Beatles, Stones, Bowie, Led Zepplin and the SPICE GIRLS. |
HOLY CRAP!!!!! If I got a Purple Ticket, I would faint! I really hope they do this one, but the anxiety of waiting to hear the whereabouts of the tickets might kill me. It would be worse than Willy Wonka! Wanna hear me sing? www.MySpace.com/RaniLovezYou |
Universaluv said: SPOOKYGAS said: Thank God U Yankees have resisted the 'charms' of this Fat bastard , he aint nothin but a reject from a shitty boyband. The twat is nothin better than a PUB singer.. resist the machine that is the ROBSTER... Every so often we do something right .
In the early 90's MTV had pretty much proclaimed that he was the next big thing to hit the US. Specials, interviews, award show performances, the whole nine. He came, we saw, we sent him back. If only we took the same attitude..please take back The Pussycat Dolls..what a pile of steaming shite!..give me Robbie Williams anyday, if you see this guy in concert you would be changing your mind! |
UCantHavaDaMango said: HOLY CRAP!!!!! If I got a Purple Ticket, I would faint! I really hope they do this one, but the anxiety of waiting to hear the whereabouts of the tickets might kill me. It would be worse than Willy Wonka!
I would sell mine.. (well maybe not) |
sosgemini said: robbie williams was never the flavor of the month in the US.
Hey, i won't deny the fact that dude did ok here in the states. Did I dig his music? no.... It was way to prepackaged. But was he the flavor of the month? Yes, he was...luckily it lasted all but a month at the most, and more for the hype of that Rock DJ video than anything else. Just goes to show you that we'll listen to anything once. All I'm saying is that prince is credible enough that if he got major push from a good record label, anything he brings out would gain acceptance in a major way outside of his core audience like us who know what he is capable of anyway. In Robbie's case, it was performance over musicianship. Sad, but true. Luckily, he wasn't the flavor of TWO months. Don't tell 'em...they don't really wanna know. |
1nonly said: sosgemini said: robbie williams was never the flavor of the month in the US.
Hey, i won't deny the fact that dude did ok here in the states. Did I dig his music? no.... It was way to prepackaged. But was he the flavor of the month? Yes, he was...luckily it lasted all but a month at the most, and more for the hype of that Rock DJ video than anything else. Just goes to show you that we'll listen to anything once. All I'm saying is that prince is credible enough that if he got major push from a good record label, anything he brings out would gain acceptance in a major way outside of his core audience like us who know what he is capable of anyway. In Robbie's case, it was performance over musicianship. Sad, but true. Luckily, he wasn't the flavor of TWO months. he got listened to because MTV shoved him down the throat of its viewers (I was one at the time). That was unavoidable if you watched the channel at all. Still, the best he could manage was a #41 on the US charts. Even trendy flavors of the month do better than that. I agree that Prince should do better than RW did with heavy promotion. But the music buying public is fickle. [Edited 1/30/06 10:33am] |
Pondwater said:
I'VE GOT THE PURPLE TICKET  All of this excitement is just tooo tooo much 
N the words of a SNL Icon: I AM "VERKLEMPT" PLEASE TALK AMOUNGST YOURSELVES. 
I am quite speechless at the thought of possibly getting a ticket... OK thats only half true. I am  about anything he ends up doing this year.?Cause me and u could have been a work of art
BE BLESSED!! |
Universaluv said: 1nonly said: Hey, i won't deny the fact that dude did ok here in the states. Did I dig his music? no.... It was way to prepackaged. But was he the flavor of the month? Yes, he was...luckily it lasted all but a month at the most, and more for the hype of that Rock DJ video than anything else. Just goes to show you that we'll listen to anything once. All I'm saying is that prince is credible enough that if he got major push from a good record label, anything he brings out would gain acceptance in a major way outside of his core audience like us who know what he is capable of anyway. In Robbie's case, it was performance over musicianship. Sad, but true. Luckily, he wasn't the flavor of TWO months. he got listened to because MTV shoved him down the throat of its viewers (I was one at the time). That was unavoidable if you watched the channel at all. Still, the best he could manage was a #41 on the US charts. Even trendy flavors of the month do better than that. I agree that Prince should do better than RW did with heavy promotion. But the music buying public is fickle. [Edited 1/30/06 10:33am] Touche, universaluv...but I find only one flaw, and tell me if you agree with this. This is not an absolute, of course, but wouldn't you agree that most consumers nowaday are fickle, but are not music buying, but rather "performance" buying? If that statement wasn't true, then how the hell could you ever...EVER explain Britney Spears' success? If that isn't a pre-packaged, shove it down your throat, type of gig from MTV, then I don't know what is. Now, imagine this type of forced entertainment collaborating with true talent? Hell, that's the kind of movement that can change people's perspective on what real music is and should be. Don't tell 'em...they don't really wanna know. |
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1nonly said: Universaluv said: he got listened to because MTV shoved him down the throat of its viewers (I was one at the time). That was unavoidable if you watched the channel at all. Still, the best he could manage was a #41 on the US charts. Even trendy flavors of the month do better than that. I agree that Prince should do better than RW did with heavy promotion. But the music buying public is fickle. [Edited 1/30/06 10:33am] Touche, universaluv...but I find only one flaw, and tell me if you agree with this. This is not an absolute, of course, but wouldn't you agree that most consumers nowaday are fickle, but are not music buying, but rather "performance" buying? If that statement wasn't true, then how the hell could you ever...EVER explain Britney Spears' success? If that isn't a pre-packaged, shove it down your throat, type of gig from MTV, then I don't know what is. Now, imagine this type of forced entertainment collaborating with true talent? Hell, that's the kind of movement that can change people's perspective on what real music is and should be. Debbie Gibson had a career also. Talentless hacks aren't unique to this generation. Neither is the underappreciated musician. Hopefully Prince won't fall into the latter category this year. . [Edited 1/30/06 11:22am] |
ontheonevegas said: Universaluv said: Every so often we do something right .
In the early 90's MTV had pretty much proclaimed that he was the next big thing to hit the US. Specials, interviews, award show performances, the whole nine. He came, we saw, we sent him back. If only we took the same attitude..please take back The Pussycat Dolls..what a pile of steaming shite!..give me Robbie Williams anyday, if you see this guy in concert you would be changing your mind! Yeh he's really TALENTED, what a SINGER, what a SHOWMAN: he that is the PUB SINGER. Shouts at the crowd about are u havin a good time shouts out a few poppy numbers and OH ye Angels (the one the other GUY wrote) swears, poses and fails to impress... please, he is all that is wrong in the manufactured pop that is UK....ignore him USA and stick 2 the MAn... |
Universaluv said: 1nonly said: Touche, universaluv...but I find only one flaw, and tell me if you agree with this. This is not an absolute, of course, but wouldn't you agree that most consumers nowaday are fickle, but are not music buying, but rather "performance" buying? If that statement wasn't true, then how the hell could you ever...EVER explain Britney Spears' success? If that isn't a pre-packaged, shove it down your throat, type of gig from MTV, then I don't know what is. Now, imagine this type of forced entertainment collaborating with true talent? Hell, that's the kind of movement that can change people's perspective on what real music is and should be. Debbie Gibson had a career also. Talentless hacks aren't unique to this generation. Neither is the underappreciated musician. Hopefully Prince won't fall into the latter category this year. . [Edited 1/30/06 11:22am] I agree and shake your hand universaluv. You have my respects and I must say, you put up a good argument. Props on your debate style. Don't tell 'em...they don't really wanna know. |
1nonly said: Universaluv said: Debbie Gibson had a career also. Talentless hacks aren't unique to this generation. Neither is the underappreciated musician. Hopefully Prince won't fall into the latter category this year. . [Edited 1/30/06 11:22am] I agree and shake your hand universaluv. You have my respects and I must say, you put up a good argument. Props on your debate style. The law degree is finally paying off!  |
Must Get A Purple Ticket!
No More Haters on the Internet. |
the purple ticket thing is a joke: what are the odds that anyone that really deserves to be there will find one? |
talk2bill2 said: the purple ticket thing is a joke: what are the odds that anyone that really deserves to be there will find one?
define "deserves"? |
Out of all of the hoopla posted, let us just cross our little or big fingers and hope that a tour start in May! Love wins. (Seen on bumpersticker) |
Universaluv said: talk2bill2 said: the purple ticket thing is a joke: what are the odds that anyone that really deserves to be there will find one?
define "deserves"? maybe i should have said apprciate it. if it is at all popular i am sure that most of the 7 will go to casual fans who really do not care about going. like the people who joined the NPGMC just to get better seats. |
The purple ticket idea is wild! I full-on feel like Charlie. Will it be international?
You could be a part-time model, but you'd probably have to keep your normal job |
1nonly said: Touche, universaluv...but I find only one flaw, and tell me if you agree with this. This is not an absolute, of course, but wouldn't you agree that most consumers nowaday are fickle, but are not music buying, but rather "performance" buying? If that statement wasn't true, then how the hell could you ever...EVER explain Britney Spears' success? If that isn't a pre-packaged, shove it down your throat, type of gig from MTV, then I don't know what is. Now, imagine this type of forced entertainment collaborating with true talent? Hell, that's the kind of movement that can change people's perspective on what real music is and should be. not quite, it was that type of shoving down the throat to a musical audience with expendable income and into that type of music. shove Prince down the throat of 10-15 year old girls and he doesn't get anywhere near those sales. heck, shove Prince down 30 somethings throat and he doesn't get those sales because that market is more fickle and doesn't buy as much music as teenagers. in marketing, you have a target market in which you promote to in a way that they will be receptive to with a product they will be receptive to. while it is a blank slate in which the variable can be changed, you can't look at the results and only change one variable, the music, and expect the same results to the variables that don't coincide. this message brought to you by logic. |
CinisterCee said: NPD313 said: • Possible Storytellers from the house...
"I wrote this next song... while pouring syrup on Cat's body..."  |
dumbass said: 1nonly said: Touche, universaluv...but I find only one flaw, and tell me if you agree with this. This is not an absolute, of course, but wouldn't you agree that most consumers nowaday are fickle, but are not music buying, but rather "performance" buying? If that statement wasn't true, then how the hell could you ever...EVER explain Britney Spears' success? If that isn't a pre-packaged, shove it down your throat, type of gig from MTV, then I don't know what is. Now, imagine this type of forced entertainment collaborating with true talent? Hell, that's the kind of movement that can change people's perspective on what real music is and should be. not quite, it was that type of shoving down the throat to a musical audience with expendable income and into that type of music. shove Prince down the throat of 10-15 year old girls and he doesn't get anywhere near those sales. heck, shove Prince down 30 somethings throat and he doesn't get those sales because that market is more fickle and doesn't buy as much music as teenagers. in marketing, you have a target market in which you promote to in a way that they will be receptive to with a product they will be receptive to. while it is a blank slate in which the variable can be changed, you can't look at the results and only change one variable, the music, and expect the same results to the variables that don't coincide. - I agree completely...teenagers are usually not sophisticated when it comes to music. They basically want something they can relate to, sing along to the chorus and have fun. They don´t care if the song is well played. I am 31 now, and when I was 15 I didn´t have this sophistication. I liked many bad artists... I just think it´s time for Prince to be well succeeded in the adult marketing. People like Sting, Eric Clapton and Stevie Wonder still sell very well. It would be cool if he got a piece of the pie, without compromising the quality of his music. [Edited 1/30/06 15:22pm] Peace
Gustavo Ribas |
There was a list like this "leaked" before Rave came out and basically none of it happened. I would imagine that how much of this happens depends upon sales success of the album.
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GustavoRibas said: dumbass said: not quite, it was that type of shoving down the throat to a musical audience with expendable income and into that type of music. shove Prince down the throat of 10-15 year old girls and he doesn't get anywhere near those sales. heck, shove Prince down 30 somethings throat and he doesn't get those sales because that market is more fickle and doesn't buy as much music as teenagers. in marketing, you have a target market in which you promote to in a way that they will be receptive to with a product they will be receptive to. while it is a blank slate in which the variable can be changed, you can't look at the results and only change one variable, the music, and expect the same results to the variables that don't coincide. - I agree completely...teenagers are usually not sophisticated when it comes to music. They basically want something they can relate to, sing along to the chorus and have fun. They don´t care if the song is well played. I am 31 now, and when I was 15 I didn´t have this sophistication. I liked many bad artists... I just think it´s time for Prince to be well succeeded in the adult marketing. People like Sting, Eric Clapton and Stevie Wonder still sell very well. It would be cool if he got a piece of the pie, without compromising the quality of his music. [Edited 1/30/06 15:22pm] Look, it sounds as thought my quotes are being taken as statements that are absolute and encompass the mass majority. No, that would be a mistake on your part to read it like that. If you don't raise your hand in class, you're less likely to be called upon to give your answer, right? That's just the way it works. That, in a nutshell was what I was trying to convey. With this new label proposing many avenues of "distribution" or "shoving stuff down people's throat" whatever, it makes the 3121 more consumer friendly by making it more in your face. Ifyou see it advertised through all kinds of venues, you will at least give it a listen to or wonder about it at the very least. That's what prince needs, if the goal is to strive for cd sales. There are alot of things that are being proposed by this current record company. If prince were to go along with it, many others outside his older group of hardcore fans and those who have joined the ranks over the years can actually see what all the hub-bub is about. And there's nothing wrong with that. Look, kids are fickle...but very...and I mean VERY few acts come out of obscurity these days. Mainstream acts might feature them (launching them as it were) and then let the new act fly on it's own. Or they are custom-produced to fit a possibly forseen trend, be it POP, Boy Band, Girl Band, Hard Rock, whatever. Then there's the class that prince is in. He's established, there's no need to establish him with a young group. He music, however, needs to be exposed to teenager. Most teenagers and younger groups will not seek out acts like Prince, it just seems like too much work. Again, I said, MOST and NOT ALL. Of course, for all of us here on the org and for those who listen to his music and appreciate the guy for his talents, the proposal of all these outlets for 3121 is just icing on the cake (not counting an more likely than not tour). But for those who have heard of the guy, but never really dug him or heard his music, then this possible massive push is just what is needed. Don't tell 'em...they don't really wanna know. |
1nonly said: Then there's the class that prince is in. He's established, there's no need to establish him with a young group. He music, however, needs to be exposed to teenager. Most teenagers and younger groups will not seek out acts like Prince, it just seems like too much work. Again, I said, MOST and NOT ALL. - Well, I agree also. I became a fan in 93, because I heard the Most Beautiful Girl in the world on the radio (and asked a friend to record some Prince stuff for me), and I would never seek for Prince back then (actually I heavily disliked him). There are some very young orgers here, even some that joined because of the Musicology tour. That´s why I am happy to see that Universal seems to have a nice marketing plan. His music should be exposed. But I still believe they will try to market Prince for the same audience of Sade and Sting, not Britney and Linkin Park. Prince tried to reach this audience on Rave, and we know what happened... Peace
Gustavo Ribas |
GustavoRibas said: 1nonly said: Then there's the class that prince is in. He's established, there's no need to establish him with a young group. He music, however, needs to be exposed to teenager. Most teenagers and younger groups will not seek out acts like Prince, it just seems like too much work. Again, I said, MOST and NOT ALL. - Well, I agree also. I became a fan in 93, because I heard the Most Beautiful Girl in the world on the radio (and asked a friend to record some Prince stuff for me), and I would never seek for Prince back then (actually I heavily disliked him). There are some very young orgers here, even some that joined because of the Musicology tour. That´s why I am happy to see that Universal seems to have a nice marketing plan. His music should be exposed. But I still believe they will try to market Prince for the same audience of Sade and Sting, not Britney and Linkin Park. Prince tried to reach this audience on Rave, and we know what happened... damn 93 huh? I bet SOTT blew you away when you first heard it. |
Wowee Wow! I hope this is the right album to do all this promotion for. I hope this is the album that the fans AND the public like. I hope I love it and jam it for my friends when I'm driving and they can't escape. |
NPD313 said: 3121...more info than you can handle!
UNIVERSAL MUSIC GROUP'S EXPECTATIONS ON PRINCE'S PROMOTIONAL CAMPAIGN FOR THE UPCOMING ALBUM! Radio: 2/7 add date for 'Black Sweat'. Vinyl will be serviced to clubs and mixshows Video: 'Black Sweat' will impact BET, VH1 and MTV mid February • MTV Unplugged from the house and VMA performance from his house via satellite • Making The Video for next single. • Possible Storytellers from the house... New Media: • Never before done retail campaign beg. Feb 7th with 6-week global iTunes pre-order. Digital 'purple ticket' promotion • Mutli-tiered countdown on AOL music kicking off with First listen world premiere of single • Superstar feature placement of 'Black Sweat' video on major online partners including Yahoo! Music, AOL Music,MySpace, Apple iTunes... • Aggressive online promotions campaign hitting music, lifestyle and tastemaker blogs & sites Press: • Targets will include: 60 Minutes, CBS Sunday Morning, Ellen, Good Morning America, Larry King Live, Oprah, SNL, Today Show, Tonight Show • MAJOR '3121' TV Special in progress.... details TBA Marketing: • Heavy media campaign to include major market advertising w/ • TV • radio • Snipes in top 10 markets • Print • Purple Ticket promotion: "An Evening With Prince - A private performance at Prince's house". (7 winning tickets will be inserted into the initial run of CDs.) Tour: Worldwide tour begins in May *** "Nothing is confirmed..." Says Spokesperson of Prince's camp NPGMusicClub. Though they (NPGMC) stated that: This is a "wish list" Universal created and is using on a sales page 2 start taking orders from retail for the new album. We xpected it 2 b leaked online (because everything from Universal gets leaked eventually). But again, "NOTHING is confirmed yet" *** - Says NPGMC www.newpowerdetroit.com www.myspace.com/torjuan Link Up Prince Fams! intersting news to hear.  :yay2  |
Universaluv said: 1nonly said: Touche, universaluv...but I find only one flaw, and tell me if you agree with this. This is not an absolute, of course, but wouldn't you agree that most consumers nowaday are fickle, but are not music buying, but rather "performance" buying? If that statement wasn't true, then how the hell could you ever...EVER explain Britney Spears' success? If that isn't a pre-packaged, shove it down your throat, type of gig from MTV, then I don't know what is. Now, imagine this type of forced entertainment collaborating with true talent? Hell, that's the kind of movement that can change people's perspective on what real music is and should be. Debbie Gibson had a career also. Talentless hacks aren't unique to this generation. Neither is the underappreciated musician. Hopefully Prince won't fall into the latter category this year. . [Edited 1/30/06 11:22am] I remember that Debbie Gibson chick played classical piano and produced her own songs as a teenager...She even played live...I never liked that bubblegum shit, but I wouldn't place every young teen idol in the same lump...That chick had some actual talent...Now Ms. Spears, that's a talentless hack...But a fine ass talentless hack... [Edited 1/30/06 21:27pm] |
murph said: Universaluv said: Debbie Gibson had a career also. Talentless hacks aren't unique to this generation. Neither is the underappreciated musician. Hopefully Prince won't fall into the latter category this year. . [Edited 1/30/06 11:22am] I remember that Debbie Gibson chick played classical piano and produced her own songs as a teenager...She even played live...I never liked that bubblegum shit, but I wouldn't place every young teen idol in the same lump...That chick had some actual talent...Now Ms. Spears, that's a talentless hack...But a fine ass talentless hack... [Edited 1/30/06 21:27pm]  Sleek neat creepin' gangk peepin' |
CinisterCee said: NPD313 said: • Possible Storytellers from the house...
"I wrote this next song... while pouring syrup on Cat's body..." Also: I wrote The Christ with Larry's cock up my arse. |
SammiJ said: Milty said: i doubt that half of that stuff will even happen!
PARTY POOP!  '..and that sez whaaa?' - Under The Cherry Moon (1986) © Warner Bros |
dumbass said: not quite, it was that type of shoving down the throat to a musical audience with expendable income and into that type of music. shove Prince down the throat of 10-15 year old girls and he doesn't get anywhere near those sales. heck, shove Prince down 30 somethings throat and he doesn't get those sales because that market is more fickle and doesn't buy as much music as teenagers. All this "throat-shoving" is making me uncomfortable.  |
JUST TO SEE PRINCE IN CONCERT AGAIN WOULD MAKE ALL THIS SHIT TALKING WELL IT!!!!! |
I was checking out various online CD stores and looking if they had 3121 on preorder.... then I found this info:
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purplehippieonthe1 said: I was checking out various online CD stores and looking if they had 3121 on preorder.... then I found this info:
Prince's first album in two years, following the chart topping album "Musicology." Includes Japan-only bonus track. Bonus Track: 1 Japan edition bonus track (expected)
Link: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/(mint)/detailview.html?KEY=UICU-1110 you know how stingy prince is with bonus tracks these days...it'll probably be something we can download from npgmc, if not one of the musicology "virtual b-sides". |
Milty said: you know what? i don't know if i like the Prince that subtetly embraces the music industry. i like it when he does things his own way. the days of the 80s music machine is kind old to me now.
Well, we might have more chances that he comes to our city, if there's more people liking his new music ... I would love it if he'd come to Montreal again ... Where Rhonda is from btw. Chatou |
Pondwater said:
I'VE GOT THE PURPLE TICKET hahaha |
Handclapsfingasnapz said: CinisterCee said: "I wrote this next song... while pouring syrup on Cat's body..." lmao...  |
You all are funny..
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Posthumous said: you know how stingy prince is with bonus tracks these days...it'll probably be something we can download from npgmc, if not one of the musicology "virtual b-sides". I hope that if this "bonus track" is a new song, that it will be available without having to buy an expensive import from Japan. |
OMG....lovin' this.....all i really want is a new album that i can't stop playing for at least a month and a concert that i can't stop talking about for the rest of my life!! 'Love will be your Soldier' - Nikka Costa
http://ddirtyshow.podomatic.com/ hiphopwithaqueerview if you in the ATL memorial day weekend and you are a Alt-Queer...cum here: www.mondohomo.com |
So the squirrel is going to have to sharpen a claw and go round every retailer in the land and sneak a small cut in Every copy of the album on sale until....
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lovemachine said: There was a list like this "leaked" before Rave came out and basically none of it happened. I would imagine that how much of this happens depends upon sales success of the album.
though saying that he did loads of promotional TV appearances for Rave , in the USA and in Europe , and the album still bombed , so its hard to say whether the amount of promotion and the success of the album will be related. Check out Chocadelica , updated with Lotusflow3r and MPLSound album lyrics April 2nd 2009 :
http://homepage.ntlworld....home2.html |
Tour:
17 Years ago I made a commitment to Prince |
tane1976 said: Tour:
Worldwide tour begins in May Does that include New Zealand Why oh why do people ask these questions, nothing is set in stone yet you still ask specifics about whether he will play New Zealand..you people are amazing! |
laurarichardson said: NME said: i am not trying p1ss on anyone's chips, but sales notes are to be taken with a pinch of salt. i work at a record company and these things are basically cut n paste jobs. you just change the artist and project name. they usually come on several flavours;
International Superstar campaign Domestic Priority Campaign Mid level MOR / Urban / Rock / enter genre here Breakthrough Campaign. i'm sure some of it will happen, but don't take it as fact. and that's without factoring in Prince's flakyness. ----- I am not sure why every is so skepitcal. Sony did a good job promoting the last project and I am sure Universal will do a good job with this. P's days of selling 10 million copies are over but if he can sell a few million and put out an enjoyable CD it's great. like i said, ain't p1ssing on your chips. i was offering a bit on real insight into what sales notes actually mean. It was to offer some caution so this site isn't bombarded with threads complaining; "whhaaaaa i just watched TRL / Oprah / Letterman / ETC, why is prince not on AS PROMISED... i hate Universal they sux, zzzzz etc, etc. not being negative, just contributing to the thread. that's what a message board is for, isn't it? |
Universaluv said: dumbass said: not quite, it was that type of shoving down the throat to a musical audience with expendable income and into that type of music. shove Prince down the throat of 10-15 year old girls and he doesn't get anywhere near those sales. heck, shove Prince down 30 somethings throat and he doesn't get those sales because that market is more fickle and doesn't buy as much music as teenagers. All this "throat-shoving" is making me uncomfortable. - Hehe...but that´s exactly what ALL record companies and radios do... Peace
Gustavo Ribas |
Meloh9 said: GustavoRibas said: That´s why I am happy to see that Universal seems to have a nice marketing plan. His music should be exposed. But I still believe they will try to market Prince for the same audience of Sade and Sting, not Britney and Linkin Park. Prince tried to reach this audience on Rave, and we know what happened... damn 93 huh? I bet SOTT blew you away when you first heard it. - Not really...I admit it took me lots of time to be used to Prince´s 80s sound...I remember I bought The Hits and while I was listening to it on the record store, I felt very uncomfortable and embarassed with most of them (specially the falsetto songs). But ended up buying it because I already liked When Doves Cry and Raspberry Beret. The other songs grew on me with time, and I even sold The Hits to buy the Hits/B-sides Cd-set. Now I love SOTT and most 80s albums. If I had to choose an album to represent the essence of Prince, it would be SOTT (even the cover art is a timeless masterpiece). But I still love the Gold Experience and the 95 NPG. They have a big place in my heart. Peace
Gustavo Ribas |
I will not get my hopes up...
Brevity is underappreciated. |
WillyWonka said: GoldiesParade said: Whats this, Wonka bars? Everyone is always stealing my ideas.   everyone willy? its old news N this madnesty
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NPD313 said: 3121...more info than you can handle!
UNIVERSAL MUSIC GROUP'S EXPECTATIONS ON PRINCE'S PROMOTIONAL CAMPAIGN FOR THE UPCOMING ALBUM! Radio: 2/7 add date for 'Black Sweat'. Vinyl will be serviced to clubs and mixshows Video: 'Black Sweat' will impact BET, VH1 and MTV mid February • MTV Unplugged from the house and VMA performance from his house via satellite • Making The Video for next single. • Possible Storytellers from the house... New Media: • Never before done retail campaign beg. Feb 7th with 6-week global iTunes pre-order. Digital 'purple ticket' promotion • Mutli-tiered countdown on AOL music kicking off with First listen world premiere of single • Superstar feature placement of 'Black Sweat' video on major online partners including Yahoo! Music, AOL Music,MySpace, Apple iTunes... • Aggressive online promotions campaign hitting music, lifestyle and tastemaker blogs & sites Press: • Targets will include: 60 Minutes, CBS Sunday Morning, Ellen, Good Morning America, Larry King Live, Oprah, SNL, Today Show, Tonight Show • MAJOR '3121' TV Special in progress.... details TBA Marketing: • Heavy media campaign to include major market advertising w/ • TV • radio • Snipes in top 10 markets • Print • Purple Ticket promotion: "An Evening With Prince - A private performance at Prince's house". (7 winning tickets will be inserted into the initial run of CDs.) Tour: Worldwide tour begins in May *** "Nothing is confirmed..." Says Spokesperson of Prince's camp NPGMusicClub. Though they (NPGMC) stated that: This is a "wish list" Universal created and is using on a sales page 2 start taking orders from retail for the new album. We xpected it 2 b leaked online (because everything from Universal gets leaked eventually). But again, "NOTHING is confirmed yet" *** - Says NPGMC www.newpowerdetroit.com www.myspace.com/torjuan Link Up Prince Fams! the12love38 |
I can hardly wait for this big day I'll be ready LORD willing the12love38 |
npgmaverick said: I will not get my hopes up...
I will not get my hopes up... I will not get my hopes up... I will not get my hopes up... I will not get my hopes up... I will not get my hopes up... I will not get my hopes up... I will not get my hopes up... I will not get my hopes up... I will not get my hopes up... I will not get my hopes up... ....U ....NO ....IT ....WON'T ....HAPPEN ....EYE ....NO ....IT ....WON'T ....HAPPEN  |
GustavoRibas said:[quote] Meloh9 said: and I even sold The Hits to buy the Hits/B-sides Cd-set. Ha, me too! |
MartyMcFly said: murph said: I remember that Debbie Gibson chick played classical piano and produced her own songs as a teenager...She even played live...I never liked that bubblegum shit, but I wouldn't place every young teen idol in the same lump...That chick had some actual talent...Now Ms. Spears, that's a talentless hack...But a fine ass talentless hack... [Edited 1/30/06 21:27pm] Make that a former fine ass...LOL (Of course this is after she dropped a seed).... |
From Universal´s site (click on Te Amo Corazon ´poster´):
Peace
Gustavo Ribas |
Universal can "wish" this all they want. This is more promotion he has ever done for an album. At least in a very long time. This is something a fan would "wish" for. And if Prince actually complys, we'll have a good year. But he may not...which is more likely. Christian Zombie Vampires |
1nonly said: Look, it sounds as thought my quotes are being taken as statements that are absolute and encompass the mass majority. No, that would be a mistake on your part to read it like that. I'm not trying to argue with you, but if that is what it reads like it isn't the readers fault, it is your responsibility to be clearer in your positions. the mistake was on your part, not ours. 1nonly said: With this new label proposing many avenues of "distribution" or "shoving stuff down people's throat" whatever, it makes the 3121 more consumer friendly by making it more in your face. Ifyou see it advertised through all kinds of venues, you will at least give it a listen to or wonder about it at the very least. creating more awareness does not make it more user friendly. the music itself is what will make it user friendly or accessible, that is seperate from the advertisement that creates awareness that drives consumers to sample it to see if it is user friendly--hence something the user would like to use or purchase. 1nonly said: Then there's the class that prince is in. He's established, there's no need to establish him with a young group. He music, however, needs to be exposed to teenager. Most teenagers and younger groups will not seek out acts like Prince, it just seems like too much work. Again, I said, MOST and NOT ALL. most teenagers aren't going to beinto a mid 40's musician at all, they are into musical acts more their age that appeal to their tastes. teenagers aren't simply into good music, they are into music that is geared towards them, which Prince is not. no amount of advertising is going to make Prince appeal to teenagers. what you hope to do is simply appeal to the entire music community and remind people who may have listended to Prince in the 80's that he is still around today and still as good. this message brought to you by logic. |
I have to disagree with you post "dumbass", althou I understand what your saying here, but as someone who is into radio and have always payed very close attention to demographics for years. Because its apart of my job...I have to say, Prince can still appeal to the younger generation.
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NPD313 said: Now...it may be harder for Prince, because Pop Music Stations don't support artists who are well established and have been in the business for as long as he has.
Why is that? |
Eye just can't wait 4 Prince's coming concert, but wow if that Purple ticket thing get through whoever wins will b so lucky!!! The promotion process appears 2 b a quite succesful way 2 place the concert in2 its fullest gear & eye'll b awaiting 4its arrival. "At first I couldn't find the words to say
how much you changed my life in every way" -Prince '05 |
wow...so it´s true!
Peace
Gustavo Ribas |
Black Sweat / BLB released as a single on March 7.. Peace
Gustavo Ribas |
pkidwell said: at least more and more people will get to know Prince when he's not going through a wierd phase....and those tickets sound hot
WIERD PHASE YOU SAY!!! THAT IS WHAT MADE HIM WHAT HE IS TODAY!! He has never been wierd.he's just been hot 4 u under the cherry moon. |
babyimastar69 said: pkidwell said: at least more and more people will get to know Prince when he's not going through a wierd phase....and those tickets sound hot
WIERD PHASE YOU SAY!!! THAT IS WHAT MADE HIM WHAT HE IS TODAY!! He has never been wierd.he's just been hot 4 u under the cherry moon. HOT WAS IN THE BEGINNING AT 1ST AVE,THEN THE FREAK IN HE CAME TO LIFE.(NOT WIERD) THE SEVEN PURPLE TICKET HOLDERS DON'T HAVE A CLUE HOW LUCKY THEY REALLY ARE.THEY WILL BECOME WIERD FREAKS ALONG WITH THE REST OF US THAT HAVE BEEN THERE DONE THAT.IT'S A GREAT WAY TO SELL HIS NEW WORK!!!!TO HIS NEW FANS AS WELL AS HIS OLD ONES. |
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1nonly said: I may be blasted for this but I don't care. After reading that list I honestly believe that if Prince follows it, his album will be commercially successful. How can it not be. It would be literally shoved down the public's throat. The die hards will be there for him anyway and would definitely enjoy the ride, but those mindless young MTV'rs will grasp anything that is "shoved" in their face.
Well, seems like you're going to get your wish (that's a good thing! ) Almost all of what was listed has already happened, minus some of the TV show performances. The purple ticket was what I especially didn't think was going to happen, but it is going through. How cool is that! |
great thread To All the Haters on the Internet
No more Candy 4 U |
URL: http://prince.org/msg/7/175765/
Date printed: Sun 22nd Nov 2009 1:52am PST
Like the private jam's and stuff are well...fading away. It's sad...I sound like a possesive fam, but I dont care. Commercial Prince just isnt as fun as Private-make-fun-of-award-ceremonies-Prince.
