alexnvrmind, do u disagree that the 'act' of discarding the PRINCE name inevitably gave rise 2 spiritual growth?

2 reiterate, during those tumultuous years, the name 'change' can b viewed of as 1 of the pivotol factors that P held on 2, n that pulled him thru. Eye suspect he let go of the notion ONLY when he no longer felt he needed it's support.

love

alexnvrmnd said:

setyrmindphree said:

Where did he "admit" that his first take of it being spiritual was wrong or a lie. I'm actually not challenging you, I would be interested in reading or listening to what he said. Because I don't know, and would like to, did the WB conflict start before or after the name change? Wasn't the name change in '93 sometime?

Well, he admitted it by simply saying his reason for changing his name was for business or contracual reasons. That's pretty much saying "It wasn't what I said it was before" because before, all he said was that his reason for doing it was for something spiritual and some Higher Power told him what his name "really was". He didn't need to scream the words, "I admit I lied before about why I changed my name!" for him to still basically say his original explanation was not on the up and up. Again, I point to altavista's post of his quotes as proof. He only said it was spiritual to begin with so he could seem more ethereal, philisophical, spiritual, and mysterious (which is an aura he's been trying to project his entire career).

Wow, what beautiful feelings that read brought back for P's music!

MarcelJ said:

dewalliz said:

I sure learnt a lot today. Thanks BC!

Good read. One man amounts to a great deal more than another man's opinion of him.

baXtos said:

baXtos said:

dewalliz said:

CandaceS said:

While I can understand the thought behind "Bring Wendy and Lisa back" or "Bring (insert random former bandmember here) back", even "Bring the Linn drum and Oberheims back", I think it may be missing the point.

I'll go on record to say that my favorite "Prince era" did involve collaborations with some amazing people, but life isn't about going back to repeat the same old stuff, is it? Wendy and Lisa have matured and (to me at least) always been great songwriters and musicians, but I can't help but think that if Prince, Wendy and Lisa locked themselves away and recorded a new album, that most of those wishing for it would be disappointed. Why? They have all grown older and lead different lives than they did in the 80's. The end result, as beautiful and breathtaking as it would be, would not be Purple Rain part deux, Parade Returns or Sign of the Times - the six disc set.

Here's my idea of a more sensible wish for the future of Prince. I'd like to see Prince to collaborate with some talented new people. I'd like to hear him pushed in new directions, not pushed back to where he was 20 years ago.

Ok, now I'm stretching, but I'd also like to see Prince as part of a band that's not his own. I'd love to see him just jam on bass for a tour for someone else, just because I love his bass playing so much. However, I can't think of any existing group that he could do that with.
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NightGod said:

Just so everybody is in the loop here, constructive criticism is welcomed on this thread, as are thoughts on Alan and his answers. However...ANY sign of veering too far off track, and I will ensure we get back on it - swiftly.

Just so we're all on the same page...mmmk?

Do continue.

He's collaborating with Clare Fischer again so maybe there's more truth to these W&L rumours than meets the eye.

I agree with someone here who wrote that the 90's music was overrall pretty good--actually, the shit was great, at times. The slog, musically, has more to do with Prince's religious ideals, where risk is not part of the plan. His lyrics have to please the Watchtower masters, and his sound has to be pleasing to his new ideas about a more fascist and controlling God. Hardcore religious people just don't make good music. The religion stunts growth in the psyche--democracy is what brings out the fire and artistic want in artists. Prince is fried, in that respect.

Leeds pretty much summed up my thoughts about Prince. He is a man or honor and truth, and he seems to still really care about Prince. The Church only cares about controlling Prince's mind and money.

Real friends know when to pull the cold water in the face bit. Prince is afraid of having real friends. He looks in the mirror and that man staring back, doesn't smile. He is calculating, at this very moment, in becoming a by the numbers pop artist, devoid of any real artistry. It is all about the surface now--so we all better get used to it.

Wave your wildsigns high!!

Many thanks to Mr. Leeds and 'nana for taking the time to put this together. It is a great read!

JimmyNothing said:

2freaky4church1 said:

thank you to Alan and all the orgers involved in this !!!


nickfunk

BIG THANKS FOR YOUR TIME...

Excellent read for me as long time follower.

eugnj420 said:

thank you very much for putting this interview together! it was a great read!

I guess this puts to rest the idea that DMSR and POSSESSED were accurate. Now maybe I can get some rest! lol

There ain't no arguing with a man that was there!

this was wonderful....thanks to all involved in putting it together.

I think fans of hiphop/rap can be far too precious about the genre of music. There's far too much concern about the artist being 'real' and from the street. Even within the field, acts have a go at each other for not being 'real' enough; it seems like you are not taken seriously unless you have been shot in a drive-by!

If you're not too precious about it, you can see it more simply as a genre of music that bits and pieces can be borrowed from, much like hiphop borrows heavily from rock and funk. In that context, Prince was actually quite successful - somebody must have liked his hiphop imitative work, because Diamonds & Pearls was one of his biggest selling albums.

metalorange said:

Actually Irresistable Bitch and Heaven Must Be Near are arguably hip hop cuts although that prolly wasnt his intention. Funky as a mofo too.

Wonderful interview!