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BananaCologne

ALAN LEEDS - THE QUESTIONS, THE ANSWERS & MORE BESIDES...



Alan Leeds IS cool.

You might expect a guy who has spent the better part of the last three decades hanging around rock royalty to be egotistical and unapproachable. But, Alan Leeds is generous, warm hearted, and real. He is so incognito, so chilled, he is more like your best friend from college. He has no need to boast or get puffed up, he's seen it all...the fans, the groupies, the superstar ego tantrums, the paparazzi, the bright lights, the cities, the drama, ad nauseum.

Simply listing just a few of the names in the social circles Leeds floated in over the years reads like a proverbial who's who of popular culture: James Brown, Jean Michel Basquiat Kid Creole, George Clinton, Parliament/Funkadelic, KISS, Prince, Bootsy Collins, Sheila E., D'Angelo, Maxwell, Renee Neufville, Raphael Saadiq and Meshell N'degeocello.

Raphael Saadiq, Jerome Benton & Alan Leeds at the Grammy Jam in L.A. 2004:

© Alan Leeds

Leeds managed Prince’s tours from 1983 through to 1990's Nude tour as well as helping co-ordinate movies, one-off shows, recording sessions, rehearsals - you name it, he was more than likely involved in some way with it. In 1990 Alan moved from being tour and production manager to studio executive and personal assistant and came off the road to run Prince's multi-million dollar studio complex Paisley Park. Leeds took a break from his almost ten year stint with Prince in 1992 and currently manages D'angelo amongst many others. Oh, and did I mention his brother Eric? He plays one mean saxaphone you know....

Dr Fink & Eric Leeds Family Jamm soundcheck 2003:

© Heaven Productions

Today, Leed's reputation as a trustworthy manager and superstar networker in the music industry precedes him. He is helping to guide the careers of R&B artists such as Maxwell, D'Angelo, Raphael Saadiq, and The Roots who have emerged on the tour scene in the last decade. They look to Leeds for his experience, knowledge and wisdom, hoping to be led down the same path as James Brown and Prince. Leeds has become a legendary music figure in his own right and is still leading the way.

Over the past couple of weeks, Alan Leeds has sat down and poured over the 20 best questions and answered them to the very best of his ability. I know for a fact that he dedicated a substantial part of his personal time to do this for both us and the Prince community at large, and approached it (as you yourselves will see) as a fellow music fan. So I would personally like to take this opportunity to sincerely thank him for not only doing so (and doing so with such dedicated vigour!) but also for graciously supplying us with numerous photos from his own personal collection.

Alan & Lisa Coleman - 2004:

© Alan Leeds

Congratulations to Orger JimmyNothing - whos question was chosen by Alan as his personal favourite. In the spirit of Christmas Alan has very kindly delved into his personal archives and donated something really special as a prize, I'll let Alan explain further:

'It's a one-of-a-kind, professionally dry mounted color print of a 1988 photo. While it could be framed, obviously the dry mount negates the need and it can be handsomely displayed as-is. It was originally part of a promo shoot and the photographer had several original prints dry mounted for us personally. It measures 14" x 11", has sharp, vivid color and looks a lot better than in my scan. Fact is, it's genuinely one-of-a-kind.'



Many congratulations Keith! clapping

Merry Christmas to all reading this in our diverse Prince community, enjoy.
BananaCologne x
PS: Alan's answer to Question 18 is very, VERY cool wink



ALAN LEEDS - PRINCE.ORG QUESTION & ANSWER SESSION (December 2005)

First of all, I'd like to thank Prince.Org and its many members for keeping the faith. That such an active and provocative site has thrived for so long is a testimony to Prince's lasting value as an artist and the loyalty of the myriad fans he's touched through the years. The music fan in me sees it as an honor to share my thoughts.

The questions I was submitted proved thoughtful and, in some cases, inspiring. The process of thinking about the answers is tantamount to sitting around a living room kicking around "old times" with dear friends...


QUESTION 1:
Firstly, it's an honour. Having been in the music biz for a few years myself and a fellow funky music fan for as long as I can remember, I can only image the historical music moments you witnessed and the fires you had to put out (I also managed musicians, so I totally empathize with you here). You've also written some of the most informative liner notes I've ever read, not only for Prince, but for countless other artists. You're truly a great musical historian.

With all of this in mind... Have you ever thought of writing a book about all of your experiences? Each chapter could be about a different artist or time in your career. Just a thought. I would certainly cherish a book like that!
Thanks!
(Orger: tbag)

Thanks for the kudos. I think my awe of those who create great music is what drove me into the music business in the first place and I've been very blessed to cross paths with many wonderful artists. In a sense, my career has been that of the ultimate fan because most of the artists I've been fortunate enough to work with are the very artists of whom I'd be fans of anyway.

Yes, not only have I thought about writing a book but I'm about two-thirds finished with a memoir that basically covers my early years, particularly with James Brown. The sub-text of the memoir is the oddity of finding myself - a young white fan - ensconced in the r&b world of the "chitlin' circuit" during an era when racial politics (IE civil rights, Viet Nam etc.) seemed to inflict itself into every aspect of our society. It was an exciting, liberating period of our history and to have found myself in the middle of it, from the perch of The Godfather of Soul, was a singular experience.

There have been several decent books that touch on that era, Peter Guralnick's Sam Cooke biography is an excellent example, but never a book from one who was actually on the inside. My goal is to capture the flavor and excitement of the period and hopefully give the reader at least a touch of how invigorating it was.

I'm not interested in doing any "tell all" books that cheapen or exploit the unique access I've had to artists. But there are other book ideas floating around in my head and if God and personal responsibilities ever provide me enough time, maybe I'll get one of them finished.


QUESTION 2:
Without out a doubt, Prince is one of the all time greats and a unique artist without peer, yet it seems as if his back catalog, as well as existing concert footage/music videos is far from getting the royal treatment that has been given to other artists such as Bowie, Springsteen, Madonna, Michael Jackson,and The Beatles, etc. If it were up to you, what would be done to preserve Prince's legacy in terms of unreleased material, and re-mastering / re-releasing his existing albums and so forth?
(Orger: skywalker)

From a fan's viewpoint, the state of Prince's archive is a travesty. Unfortunately, Warner Brothers and Prince seem to share a lack of vision when it comes to legacy material. Of course their on-going legal differences don't help matters. From a musicologist's (note the lower case - no pun intended) point of view, all of his classic albums should be available in remastered form with relevant bonus cuts and detailed liner notes.

While the "Hits" 3 CD set was a welcome release, it should have been expanded into a proper box set with alternate takes, unissued material and, perhaps, some illustrative "live" tracks. I enjoyed doing the liner notes for the "Hits" package and Prince was very helpful and supportive during the writing process. But an expanded booklet (big enough to be legible without a magnifying glass) could have also contained essays from band members, recording engineers, if not the man himself.

I also believe a "Prince Live" career retrospective could make for a phenomenal box set. He had so many significant gigs professionally recorded that one could easily document every phase of his career with terrific concert material. Packaged with dignity, such a set could go a long way towards, once and for all, cementing Prince's place alongside the musical giants of our lifetime.

Unfortunately, all of these 'projects' would require a great deal of cooperation between Prince and Warner Brothers - something that doesn't seem the least bit likely.


QUESTION 3:
Can you please share with us one anecdote from your time working with Prince (which you don't think you've widely shared before in print) that you think will surprise or amuse us?
(Orger: langebleu)

I'm asked this a lot. I can't remember if I've shared this story before, but I frequently reflect on a conversation Prince and I had in Studio A at Paisley Park around 1988.

As a tour manager, I prided myself on having made the transition from the old school music business of a briefcase and an ounce of pot into the new school of computerized stage production, E-Mail and cell phones. The business had changed from a think-on-your-feet ‘street’ world into an increasingly sophisticated corporate entity. I had seen a lot of my old road pals from the 70's drop by the wayside, grumbling the proverbial "things ain't what they used to be". I was grateful to have been young enough to adapt. But this conversation with Prince showed me I still had a ways to go!

He had just spent the entire day in the studio creating still another funky masterpiece - I can't remember the song, it might have been something for "Lovesexy". Of course we were accustomed to him doing that. It wasn't unusual for Prince to show up at Paisley around 11 in the morning, gradually work his way through his mail, business matters that demanded his attention and finally into the studio an hour or two later. Sometimes he had a song in mind - perhaps a lyric he'd written the night before. Sometimes he turned on the tape and just let things flow. But it never ceased to amaze me that on any given day, by 6 or 7 PM he'd have a new song damn near finished! On this particular day, he called my office and said, "Hey, come downstairs a minute - I've got something to play for you."

Such calls weren't rare but he seldom volunteered to play something unless he was truly excited about it, so I raced to the studio. When he would play something new for you, he'd often dance around the studio, illustrating the songs nuances or emphasize certain parts by singing along in your ear so you wouldn't miss a lyric. On this day, by the third time through the high volume playback, he began shouting his concept for a video clip! I was astounded - not only had he created the song from scratch in a single day but he already had a video concept!

After the playback stopped he saw the puzzled look on my face and quizzed me about it. I said, "I can't believe you already have a video in mind".
He responded somewhat snidely, "Alan, don't you get it? These kids today don't hear music like we do! They have to SEE music. That's what MTV has done. I have to think that way."

In retrospect, it was hardly the most profound statement in the world, but it was an awakening for me - a reminder that the more experience one has in the music business, the more one's liable to get stuck in their ways of thinking. It was an eye-opener for me that served me well a couple years later when I gave up the tour manager role in order to take the helm of Paisley Park Records.


QUESTION 4:
What was your view of Alex Hahn's book, Possessed, which featured many quotes from you - did you find it an accurate depiction of the behind the scenes events in Prince's life?
(Orger: NightGod)

I think Alex Hahn's "Possessed" is the best Prince book of its kind to date. Alex devoted a ton of time and labor to get things as accurate as possible. I recognize that any Prince fan (including myself) can quibble with Alex's personal feelings about Prince and his music but that's what makes being a fan (and the book) so much fun! The book did get a little sketchy in the latter years, probably because Alex ran out of reliable sources. Those who have intimate knowledge of Prince's activities from the mid-1990's onward were either unavailable or unwilling to offer Hahn much insight.

I do think that any discussion of Prince books should include a nod to Per Nilsen for his tireless efforts to document the raw statistics of Prince's recordings, tours and day-to-day chronology. Nilsen's books will live forever as THE references on those subjects.


QUESTION 5:
Hello Mr Leeds,
Do you despair at the state of music now? With the exception of some true talent that is making music now, there really is nothing around. Who do you think will be the next big thing - who looks promising?
Many thanks,
Nichola
(Orger: Nichola)

Music today?!?! That's a more complicated subject than it should be. There is wonderful music being made today by wonderful artists. But there are several other factors that effect our awareness of it and our access to it.
First of all, the genres of music that my generation holds dear - r&b, funk, rock, jazz, salsa etc. - have all been DEFINED. Unlike the 1960's and 1970's when many of these music forms were being INVENTED before our eyes, today those forms and basic styles have been pretty much been explored. There are only so many notes, chords and rhythms...and only so many ways to combine them into song. It's pretty much all been done. On the other hand, the wild card is the individuality of the artist and the countless ways to mix these genres and develop music with a fresh flavor. That's where new music comes in. As long as artists keep their work honest and personal, there's going to be stimulating new music.

Unfortunately, the "evolution" of the music BUSINESS doesn't encourage that. It's equally significant that music plays a somewhat different role in today's cultural landscape than it did 30 years ago. Compared to today, the access to music 30 years ago was limited to radio, records, concerts and the mere handful of television programs that hosted the artists we favored. In plain language, it took a lot longer to get tired of a record or a musical style because we weren't assaulted with it everywhere we went.

Music also did not have the competition in the marketplace that it has today. We didn't have computer games, cell phones, DVD players to bring movies into the home, and hundreds of 24 hour cable TV outlets to (a) occupy our time, (b) attract our dollars, and (c) offer alternative access to music. Today we hear contemporary music everywhere we go - in the stores we shop, our ring tones, video game soundtracks, movie soundtracks and even the airplane headphones when we travel. In this age of rabid competition for the entertainment dollar and youngsters who have to "see" music, not just hear it (see Question 3), music has become like wallpaper. Music today is a constant and visual soundtrack to our lives....as opposed to something we have to seek out and appreciate with our ears and imaginations. To all but the diehard music fans, listening to music has become an almost subliminal exercise.

The result of all of this changing culture is a music industry that has forgotten how to creatively market anything "left of center" and can no longer afford to take chances on artists and music that don't lend themselves to ring tones and the red carpet.

All of this to say, the changes have been sad but inevitable. If you want to attack today's music, you have to attack today's mainstream culture and that's a hopeless (and pointless) task.

Meanwhile, support your record stores! Look behind the displays in the front of the store and don't be afraid to go beyond your usual categories. It's so arrogant to call anything non-western "World Music", but go there anyway. The same technological shrinking of the globe that has hurt the American music scene, has brought new ideas and influences to other cultures. Some of the most exciting music today is in languages other than English.

And God forbid we actually learn something about cultures other than ours. Isn't that what white Americans did in the 1950's and 1960's when they discovered soul music? There is some terrific music hiding in the bins deep inside your record store - you gotta spend the time to dig - but it's there.


QUESTION 6:
When was the last time you spoke to Prince - did you part company amicably?
(Orger: metalorange)

I've spoken to Prince briefly a couple of times when he visited shows on tours I managed such as Maxwell and D'Angelo. While I've heard from mutual business associates that he wasn't pleased about any of his former employees cooperating with Alex Hahn's book project, in 1992 Prince and I certainly parted company amicably.

By then, Prince's differences with Warner Brothers had infected everything we were trying to accomplish with Paisley Park Records. It became clear to me that Prince's frustration had turned into confusion about what to expect from the label. Realistically, the label's mandate was always unclear. What WAS clear was that Prince wasn't taking the responsibility to produce competitive records and turn the label around. As a result, Warner Brothers' support and confidence waned and I was caught between a rock and a hard place - understanding the very real frustrations and agendas on both sides. I could see it was never going to work.

Meanwhile, Prince was developing some creative and innovative ideas for alternative marketing - in effect, wanting to release records that bypassed Warner Brothers and the standard industry pipeline. Despite what he thought, I sympathized with Prince and found some of his ideas fresh and challenging. Unfortunately, it was also my job to remind him that he was about 5 years ahead of time (personal computers and internet usage wasn't yet commonplace) and that there was a legal obligation to Warner Brothers and the funding they had provided Paisley Park Records - not to mention a contract!

We agreed to disagree and parted ways. However, I was happy to get a call a couple years later to consult on a brief Japanese tour - help negotiate the promoter deal, put a crew together and baby sit logistics. And, of course, I was called on for the "Hits" project.

I have nothing but fond memories of my 10 "purple" years and my life was forever changed by the experience and knowledge I was afforded by being part of his world.


QUESTION 7:
Since you managed Prince's tours from some the highest points of his career, what were some of the extremes girls went to try and get to Prince at his hotel?
(Orger: Astasheiks)

Strangely enough, girls weren't the "problem" on tour one might think. In part due to the efficient security we carried and our extremely detailed relationships with hotels, travel agents, club managers and venues. We carefully orchestrated his discreet comings and goings and made every effort to secure as much privacy as humanly possible. So despite his sexy reputation, Prince wasn't often accessible to the typical groupies who regularly hounded artists. He might extend himself to meet a seemingly interesting young lady at a club but let's not forget that he tended to tour with ‘in house’ female companions so there was nary a lonely night.

QUESTION 8:
Hiya! Thank you for doing this, it's a nice gesture on your part.

My question is about Kylie Minogue. I understand there is a song called "Babydoll" that Prince wrote either for or with Kylie, could you please tell me if he wrote it for her or with her, if this was ever actually recorded?

Thanx again!
(Orger: MonEl)

Thanks for the kind words. Unfortunately, I'm of no help at all on this one. I have no knowledge about the song or Prince's collaboration with Kylie.

QUESTION 9:
Dear Mr.Leeds,
Knowing that you were the road manager for Prince, James Brown and others, the list is impressive, working with those talented, diverse artists. My questions are and I'll try to be breif: you write the liner notes to all James Brown's cd's, etc., is Universal/Polydor planning new, unissued live J.B. cd's in the near future? The Godfather of Funk in concert is the real deal. I hope someday U Music will release the complete show in Zaire, Africa 1974, the Rumble in the Jungle.1974 I think is Brown's most productive period.
(Orger: DarylB)

Universal does not own the tapes of the much bootlegged 1974 James Brown concert in Zaire. Hopefully the owners will someday negotiate a proper release of this great show.

However, I'll jump the gun a bit and share what we hope will soon become exciting news. 2006 may see the official DVD release of two recently discovered James Brown concert videos from 1966 and 1967. Both are complete shows and are the earliest known videos of actual Brown concerts. (Only the T.A.M.I. Show and several brief TV appearances precede them). Suffice-it-to-say the shows are historically fascinating and musically thrilling. There have also been conversations about issuing official DVD's of Brown's 1968 Boston and 1971 Paris shows - both of which have also been widely bootlegged.

For several years we have kicked around the idea of a "STARTIME LIVE" box set, comprising both well known and previously unissued concert material. The powers-to-be at Universal have yet to give this ambitious project the green light so keep your fingers crossed.


QUESTION 10:
How did meet Prince? What was your first meeting like?
(Orger: slm4m)

I met Prince in early, 1983. I had been managing a KISS tour which was winding down. It turned out that production manager, Tom Marzullo, split his time between Kiss and Prince's 1999 Tour which had also been on the road for several months. Marzullo asked me if I'd be interested in the Prince gig since they'd been through several tour managers without success. Figuring I had nothing to lose, I left the Kiss tour after a show in Phoenix and joined Prince in San Diego. (Ironically, their next show was back in Phoenix and the same limo company that had carried Kiss was hired to pick up the Prince entourage two days later. The look of confusion on the driver's face when I met him in baggage claim was priceless).

I didn't know a soul in the Prince camp besides Marzullo but was quickly introduced to manager Steve Fargnoli and bodyguard Big Chick (Huntsberry). I was quickly warned not to approach Prince - to wait until he spoke to me. After a quick, introductory shake of the hands, we didn't speak more than 4 or 5 words a day for at least a week. Any question I needed answered was funneled through Chick or Steven.

At one point I needed to review some hotel choices for upcoming cities and wanted to get Prince's input in case he had any favorites in those areas. So I asked Chick to tell Prince I needed to see him. After I explained my reason, Chick replied, "Buddy, don't do that. If you ask him about hotels he'll only think you don't know what you're doing. That's what he hired you for." It was beginning to occur to me why Prince went through so many tour managers.

A couple of weeks passed without incident. Then one night, after a show, I was in a hotel lounge with most of the Revolution when we spotted Prince and Chick walking towards our table. As luck would have it, the one empty seat was next to me and Prince dropped himself into it. I got up and motioned to Chick to take my seat but he waved me off. Suddenly all of the spontaneity at the table disappeared as even the veteran band members waited to see where Prince might take the conversation. Instead, without any greeting or political nicety, Prince simply turned to me and said, "tell me some James Brown stories". And that opened up ten years of more conversations than I dare to remember - LOL.

Reply #1 posted 12/24/05 11:53am

BananaCologne

Alan Leeds, some musician guy, and German promoter Roland
Fackel arriving in Belgium for a Parade tour show - 1986:



QUESTION 11:
Of all the things you were a part of, what makes you most proud? What is your biggest work-related achievement?

I adored the liner notes you wrote for both Star Time and The Hits/The B-sides. I must admit I am rather envious of all the inside information you have about Prince's music. For most of us, lines notes like yours make all the difference. I loved reading so many great inside stories on both JB and Prince, that I want to thank you for those jobs. I certainly hope that if Prince ever opens that vault, you will be involved in writing the liner notes.
Again, many thanks!
(Orger: HamsterHuey)

Wow, thanks again. It's really gratifying to know people actually read those liner notes and credits. We try to put as much care into them as possible, under the assumption that musicologists, and fans alike, will turn to them as reference in years to come. Which segues into your question of "what makes me the most proud". In 1992 I shared a Grammy Award with James Brown, Universal producer Harry Weinger and writers Nelson George and Cliff White for our essays in the James Brown STARTIME box set. While I'm proud of the Grammy, I'm more proud of the inscription James Brown wrote in the box set booklet I passed around to him and his musicians like a high school yearbook. Brown wrote, "Thanks for helping with our Grammy" (his underlining). If my office ever catches fire, that booklet is what I’ll grab first.

QUESTION 12:
If you could go back and change something about your time with Prince, what would it be?
(Orger: babynoz)

I'm not much for hindsight, because there are usually reasons why things turn out the way they do. For example, I would have loved if Paisley Park Records had turned into a ‘real’ record label - in the sense of seeking talent with legitimate and competitive market potential - but it was never meant to be.

Warner Brothers' original interest in the joint venture was based on Prince's success as a producer of acts such as The Time, Vanity 6 and The Family. Unfortunately, by the time he had authority over his own label, Prince's ambitions as a producer had changed. Some of the early signings were obscure acts that Prince's managers handled. Unwisely, Prince failed to disguise his lack of interest in most of these projects from Warner Brothers.

Signing icons like George Clinton and Mavis Staples were admirable gestures. Prince made some very nice records with Mavis, but trying to market her in a contemporary fashion - IE "Melody Cool" - didn't make sense to me. As for my friend George, his affairs were then in disarray and we inherited an unfinished album that was already dated. Warners and George had both hoped Prince would devote more time towards working with him but it never really happened. Soon the label became known as a playground for Prince girlfriends as albums by Jill Jones (whom I adore - a more talented lady than the album suggests), Taja Seville, Ingrid Chavez and finally an unknown Carmen Electra, came and went.

The fact is, unlike those who are primarily producers by trade, Prince's interest in working with other artists usually hinges on their ability to fit into an alter ego role or some other aspect of his own orbit. It worked like a charm with Vanity and Morris Day, but if an artist was married to his or her own ideas and concepts, Prince would often lose interest. And when he lost interest, that usually transformed into a lack of enthusiasm in the Warner Brothers promotion and marketing departments. I ended up spending several very frustrating years trying to get Warners and the industry to take Paisley Park Records seriously when Paisley Park Records simply didn't want to be taken seriously. Without competitive product and Prince's consistent enthusiasm, it was a no-win.

I hesitated citing this example because I don't want it to appear as sour grapes - I learned a lot and appreciated the experience of running a label. But I think the real tragedy is Prince's lost opportunity to build a legitimate, respected forum for his extra-curricular output.


QUESTION 13:
Is there a concrete plan for Prince's music once he passes away?
(Orger: Graycap23)

I have no idea if Prince has a will or any other legal contingency for what happens to his archive in the case of his death. I hope he does.

Though no lawyer, I assume his tape archive would be viewed as part of his general estate. On the other hand, anything that was recorded during the years he was under contract to Warner Brothers couldn't technically be released without Warners approval or involvement.

I recall Prince expressing his distaste for what happened to the Jimi Hendrix archive and even some reservations about the James Brown reissues I've been involved with. He once sarcastically asked, "Does James know you have all these out-takes and unissued songs?" I assured him that JB was cool with how we were treating his archive (and even cooler with the bucks he was raking in) but I don't think Prince was convinced.

Despite legitimate arguments to the contrary, when it comes to catalogue - compilations and reissues - I've found that many artists lack the overview to understand what the audience for these projects really wants. Some artists are simply too close to their songs - which frequently end up meaning something entirely different to their audience. And their memories are often less accurate than a researcher's homework.


QUESTION 14:
Did the members of the Lovesexy band and touring entourage really understand the whole concept behind the album , was it explained to you all by Prince or were you all just going along with the ride ?
(Orger: moonshine)

I don't think Prince ever directly explained Lovesexy. But casual conversations with some of us revealed a lot. It had been a dark time for him. There was the lingering frustration over SIGN O' THE TIMES and then the BLACK ALBUM fiasco. He was juggling relationships with several ladies - each of whom seemed to bring out a different side of him. There was the explosion of hip-hop, an art form he didn't initially relate to and saw as a threat. And there was the sting of some critics who suggested his music was no longer "black" enough.

As usual, Prince's answer to an unpleasant reality was to construct a reality of his own. Thus: LOVESEXY. No matter how complicated or controversial he seemed to make it, the story was basically just old fashioned good over evil. Infusing a spiritual context to sexuality turned off some listeners and confused many more. But I think that was needlessly complicated too. I think all he was saying was that anything as good as sex can't be evil. If it had been the 1970's, it would have been an easy sell. But in the midst of the 1980's A.I.D.S. explosion, the timing was challenging to say the least.


QUESTION 15:
Who in the world chose the singles from SOTT? Do you think If I Was Your Girlfriend was the right choice as second single from SOTT? Do you know if tracks like Housequake, Hot Thing or Adore were EVER considered for release as singles on their own? ...Basically - what happened?!?
(Orger: Scrambledeggsaresoboring)

Prince ultimately chose the singles. He'd solicit opinions from some us but at the end of the day, he called the shots. "SIGN O' THE TIMES" was a no brainer for the first single but the release of "Girlfriend" stopped radio in its' tracks - homophobes misinterpreted the lyrics and it's charming eccentricity simply didn't fit a format. Meanwhile black radio was clamoring for "Housequake" which was already surfacing as the club/party jam of the year. We all felt it should have been the obvious choice for the second single. So did Prince. TOO obvious.

I can't say if Prince was knowingly pushing the envelope or naively believed that "Girlfriend" could be a radio hit, but he (and the album project) were devastated by its failure. That we were touring Europe instead of helping the album in America didn't help (also his choice).

Of course "Housequake" was the third single but as the "B" side to the hugely successful "U Got The Look". Despite the 3rd singles success, the album's momentum had been sidetracked by the failure of "Girlfriend" and lack of a U.S. tour. For the record, "Hot Thing" was the "B" side on the 4th single, "I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man". For whatever reason, Prince was usually shy about releasing a ballad as the plug side of a single. "Adore" could have been a huge hit.

The subject of selecting singles goes back to the issue of an artist viewing his or her music differently than the public does. While Prince always hated anything too obvious, selecting singles is not the time to be clever. If you accept singles as a marketing tool for an album, then obvious is what the party calls for! Some wheels don't need reinventing.


QUESTION 16:
Other than Prince, who have been your favorite people to work with?
(Orger: DirkFunk)

I think each was my favorite at the time I worked for them. It may sound evasive but they're all favorites in their own ways. The James Brown years were exciting, learning experiences. His professionalism and respect of show business tradition gave me a foundation that many of my peers today weren't lucky enough to receive. The Bootsy Collins/George Clinton period taught me there is always another way to do things and to have fun doing it. The Prince years, and particularly the PURPLE RAIN phenomenon, provided a glimpse of super-stardom in the modern, media-driven world that few people ever get to experience. And the more recent years with Maxwell and D'Angelo provided me the opportunity to apply what I've learned and to pass it on to the youngsters I find myself working with. Both artists were new to the touring end of the industry and I'm very proud of what we accomplished in each case.

QUESTION 17:
What do you feel when some people don´t consider Prince as great as some of the famous (and "serious") american songwriters like Gershwin, Duke Ellington, Cole Porter, etc, but see him as a pop star only? What would you say to them?
(Orger: GustavoRibas)

I'd say they're tone deaf! LOL

On a serious note, I'm not sure we need to distinguish between "pop" art and "serious" art when it comes to non-classical music. Anything "pop" needs to be judged within its' own context. For example, Cole Porter, Duke Ellington and the Gershwins were all considered "pop" in their eras.

In a sense, Prince has been his own worst enemy when it comes to being judged on musical merit, because of his career-long obsession with image and celebrity. When one thinks of the skimpy clothing of "Dirty Mind", the mid-1980's fixation on all things purple, the ever-changing wardrobe and hair styles or the very public evolution of his spirituality, it can become a distraction from the music. Of course, those factors often illustrated or accented aspects of his music and represented his "show biz" instincts as a performer. But it can be argued that he sometimes went overboard in placing more attention on the wrapping than the contents of the package.

I remember a conversation we had back in the late 1980's during which he expressed his frustration at not being taken more seriously as a musician and composer. I suggested that since he always embraced extremes, why not throw away all the props and do a tour in a turtle neck and a pair of jeans where he and his band simply sang and played.

Incredulous at my hubris, he replied, "What? And look like you instead of a star? Nobody will pay to see someone who looks like an everyday guy!"
To put it simply, the idea scared the velvet pants off of him.

Ironically, that's why I found the ONE NITE ALONE tour so refreshing and it's a shame that the "live" box set and Las Vegas DVD don't quite capture the unique charm of that tour. Given the critical acclaim of the tour's early months, I found the set list and sequencing on the box set very curious. The pacing and song selection just didn't make me feel the way the shows had. Since the box set and DVD will be the lasting impression of that tour, maybe it means he's still afraid.


QUESTION 18:
Dear Alan,
Can u remember the most poignant story from ur time 2gether with Prince, which made u think something along the lines of, 'he is human, after all', and can u please share this little-known emotional story with us?
love,
Anji
(Orger: Anji)

I can think of several. Believe it or not, like most people whose outward extremes contradict their opposite inner extremes, Prince is a genuinely sensitive man. Playing amateur shrink for a moment, I suppose his rejections as a youngster inspired a stony surface as a protective device - actually, not a bad thing to have in the music business.

One story that comes to mind took place in a limo en route to the Hollywood premiere of PURPLE RAIN. Big Chick was riding up front with the driver and I was in the back with Prince who was holding a single flower he had impulsively plucked from a garden in front of our hotel. The ride was tensely quiet. Remember this was a movie nobody thought would ever get made. "Who is this singer Prince who thinks he's all that to make a movie", said most in the industry and much of the media. We all knew this was either going to turn Prince into a major star or be one of the most embarrassing flops of all time.

We had carefully plotted a caravan of limos so as to orchestrate the arrivals of the various figures in the movie. One by one, limos deposited Billy Sparks, Morris Day and Jerome, The Time, Apollonia 6, Wendy & Lisa, Bobby Z, Dr. Fink and Brownmark. And they each worked their way up the red carpet, stopping for waves to fans, quick TV interviews and hundreds of photographers. The idea was, of course, that Prince would be the last to arrive and be met at curbside by a group of our security guys with whom we were in touch via walkie talkies (remember, this was before everyone had cell phones).

We had pre-arranged a spot a block behind the theatre where we would temporarily park and wait for the cue to pull around and make the "grand entrance". At that point I would also jump out of the car and run ahead to make certain everything at curbside was just the way we wanted and then give the driver the final "go". When we reached the appointed spot and parked, Chick turned on the walkie-talkie as Prince anxiously asked him, "What's going on there? Can we go yet?"

Chick turned around toward us and reported, "the guys say there's a traffic jam 2 blocks long, more fans than the police can handle and more cameras than a photography store!"

At that point Prince suddenly lost it. Just for a flash, but like any mortal human being, he lost it. He suddenly gripped my hand in a desperate vice and his voice broke as he strained to whisper in a tone that sounded like a petrified ten year old, "Whhh..aa..tttt d-diid he saayy?"

I was stunned too, but instinct took over and I hung onto his hand firmly and said calmly, "He said we're gonna have a day to be proud of and it's gonna be fun. Now let me get to theatre and I'll meet you there."

It was touching and revealing - probably the only moment through the whole, tedious making of the movie that he showed any doubt or vulnerability. And just as quickly, he caught himself....probably frustrated that he had let his guard down....and said, "Yeah, hurry up over there. And don't let them mess this up!"


QUESTION 19:
Dear Mr Leeds, I'm a Prince fan from India.
Behind that public persona, I have a gut feeling that Prince is a really simple man with a simple lifestyle, how right am I? Does he really have an extravagant lifestyle of a rock star or is he a well-grounded person?
(Orger: armybrat)

I think he's somewhere in the middle - neither extravagant by celebrity standards nor grounded in an every day sense. He certainly has the sense of entitlement that most celebrities are susceptible to. When he wants or needs something, the word "no" is missing from his dictionary. But he's never been about "bling" for bling's sake - preferring to design his own clothes and privately acquire the things other wealthy celebrities publicly spend thousands of dollars on. His homes, both in suburban Minneapolis and in Beverly Hills, have generally been exclusive and in good taste (only one was painted purple) without being garish. He's been through the gamut of luxury cars from BMW's to a Rolls but you won't find him on MTV showing off a parking lot-size collection. Most of his indulgences, such as corporate jets, limos on 24 hour call and exclusive hotel suites have more to do with his privacy than opulence.

Like most anyone who would find themselves with his resources and access, Prince enjoys the many conveniences and privileges of wealth and celebrity. On the other hand, his personal taste isn't particularly sophisticated. He enjoys movies, playing certain sports and, more than anything else, playing music.


QUESTION 20:
Hi Alan. Thank you for doing this.
In your liner notes for The Hits you said '...our wildest imaginations couldn't conjure up what a collection like this might contain in another 15 years.' What are your opinions on the output of the past 15 years and do you believe that that statement rings true today for the next 15 years?
(Orger: JimmyNothing)

I guess I have to eat my words as I've found the last 15 years somewhat disappointing. It's not surprising that Prince no longer rules the charts in the trendy, youth-oriented world of pop music, but that didn't have to have any bearing on the quality of his output. Unfortunately, the reality of his aging didn't seem to sit well with him until recently. His insular lifestyle discouraged the kinds of life experiences that could have expanded his palette and some of his music during much of the 1990's suggested an inner turmoil.

Obviously, none of us can (or should) speak for him, but in my opinion, Prince's music in the 1990's suffered because, for the first time, he allowed outside trends to influence his work. While I doubt he would admit it, whatever the hip-hop explosion meant to him failed to believably translate to his music. He tried incorporating rap but the "keep it real" hip-hop community wasn't buying Tony M or a gun-shaped microphone from a guy Prince's age who had grown up in a relatively middle-class Midwestern environment. Then he went retro, as if he had stubbornly decided that if he couldn't regain street cred, he'd go the opposite direction and resurrect artists like Chaka Khan and Larry Graham. It made for some entertaining music but nothing that really stuck to the ribs.

Then there are his on-going differences with the music industry and how music is marketed to the public. He has good points in his arguments and tons of sympathy from other artists, young and not so young, but for a while it seemed like he spent more energy in promoting his views and marketing concepts than creating the music itself. When the music did seem to step up a notch, such as on the RAINBOW CHILDREN album, it was compromised by a few curiously disturbing lyrics and the hugely annoying segues.

Despite all of the above, the last three years have given reason for hope that the Prince legacy is anything but complete. Now that he's obviously grown secure with his age and established his spiritual beliefs for all who care to know, there are indications that his music may cleanse itself of the extra agendas. I have no doubt that he can still stumble on a brilliant new song in his sleep. His effortless command of the stage and awesomely rich catalogue will always lure ticket buyers into any venue he chooses to visit. We music fans will always be richer for his presence.


L-R: Gwen Leeds, Alan Leeds, Sheila E., Pete Escovedo, Juanita Escovedo,
Juan Escovedo, Miko Weaver, Tristan Leeds (kneeling)


© Alan Leeds

To round off the edges somewhat, I grabbed the proverbial bull by the horns and posed a couple of further questions to Alan that have cropped up from time to time on message boards across the community - such as the sad demise of the much-missed 'Controversy' fan magazine, and what REALLY happened between Prince, Wendy & Lisa and 'that comment'... as well as asking him to inform us what his future plans are and what D'Angelo is currently up to, etc.
- BananaCologne


I can't knowingly comment on the 'Controversy' fan club situation. I'm a bit old school when it comes to fan clubs, believing that they ALL deserve respect and support to at least some degree. But in today's music business, fan clubs (to use the term broadly) have become a huge revenue source thanks to the internet.....downloads, merchandising etc. Big revenue breeds control, so there you have it.

For many years Prince's desire to control fan access had more to do with his privacy and the marketing of his "mystique" than anything financial. But now that's changed and his cutting edge efforts through his own website speak for themselves. I believe most fans are capable of understanding this, after all they're of the internet generation too. But Prince's legal gripes with 'Controversy' seemed extreme to me and certainly, from a public relations standpoint, the situation was badly bungled.

As to Wendy and Lisa, I know Prince has genuine respect and fondness for them both. That he invited Wendy to appear with him on the Tavis Smiley Show was probably a gesture aimed to those harboring the same feelings as yours. Having said that, their relationship is personal and deserves to stay that way. Wendy and Lisa certainly don't need me or anyone else to express their feelings, nor does Prince. Analyzing their relationships and suspicions about Prince's sexual politics are issues better left alone - until and unless he finds reason to publicly express himself on the subject(s). No matter what I, or any fan, might suspect personally, unless any of the three "go public", I choose to consider it a non-issue.


Wendy, Sheila as Morris, and Alan at The Family Jamm 2003:

© Heaven Productions


MY WORLD:
D'Angelo is continuing to work on his next album - he's got enough amazing material for ten albums by now - LOL. Unfortunately, due to an on-going dispute with Virgin Records, there's still no deadline to deliver a finished record - much less a release date. I could do another number on the pitfalls and limitations of today's music industry and how they inhibit a pure artist such as D'Angelo, but I'll spare you the pain. Sooner or later, an album will find its way to the public and, God willing, D'Angelo will be motivated to find his way back to the stage. And then we can re-start our mission to share this young man's true stature. At his core, he probably IS the most gifted and exciting artist and performer since Prince. I live for the day when the rest of the world can discover what a few of us already know about the depths of his gift.

Beyond D'Angelo, there is RENEE NEUFVILLE who is an equally astounding talent of great versatility and depth. Her success as half of ZHANE and more recent recording and touring exposure with Roy Hargrove's RH Factor has only scratched the surface of the delightfully rich music she can bring to the world. To those who wrote in asking about new music, I hope 2006 is the year we can talk about Renee in the same breath.

I am also involved, as an Associate Producer, with a Paramount Pictures film project based on the life of James Brown. It's in the earliest of stages, the first draft of the script isn't even delivered yet. But it's an exciting project that I'm looking forward to as a challenge and a new adventure.



FINAL THOUGHTS:
In summation, I find it difficult to do this much thinking and writing about Prince without adding some final thoughts. Personally, I find it discouraging that Prince's proselytizing in recent years even hints at religious, racial or sexual prejudices that he never represented back in the day. When Prince burst on the scene in the early 1980's I saw him as an appealing liberator of sorts. He offered liberation from the wimpy disco era that came before him. He offered liberation from the racial and sexual constrictions that the Reagan years seemed to symbolize. Those of us who felt we understood his music only saw bold truth and honesty. Songs like "Bambi", "Dirty Mind", "Controversy", "1999", "Little Red Corvette", "Erotic City" and even "Darling Nikki" seemed so poetically realistic and timely that they couldn't seem any "dirtier" to me than they did to him. The biggest disappointment of Prince today is that he no longer feels the same way.

This has been huge fun for me. I haven't forgotten what it was like to be a fan before I set foot in this business. Listening to the music I loved took me places my feet couldn't. It made me feel ways I couldn't otherwise feel. And it made me forge thoughts I couldn't otherwise think. One of the many blessings of a gift such as Prince's is the ability to take fans outside themselves. He should be grateful there are so many of you along for the ride. I hope sharing some of my memories will inspire you to put on some music, close your eyes, open your mind and take one of those magical rides. It's never been about me - it's always been about the MUSIC!

Have a great holiday season and a wonderful 2006!

- Alan Leeds (Minneapolis, December 2005)

L-R: Bobby Byrd, Vicki Anderson-Byrd, Universal Records' Harry Weinger,
the late great Lyn Collins, Alan Leeds, Martha High & Marva Whitney:


© Alan Leeds


© Fruity Parfume Inc. for prince.org wink

Reply #2 posted 12/24/05 1:46pm

AvramsDad

FUCKING AWESOME!!! Thanks BC!!

Reply #3 posted 12/24/05 1:55pm

psykosoul

fantastic read worship

Reply #4 posted 12/24/05 2:02pm

Delegaatti

Very interesting indeed

Reply #5 posted 12/24/05 2:19pm

PurpleKnight

Goddamn, that was just wonderful. I absolutely love the way he summarized the problems with Prince's more recent output. Great read.

The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.

"You still wanna take me to prison...just because I won't trade humanity for patriotism."
Reply #6 posted 12/24/05 2:20pm

Handclapsfingasnapz

oh my goodness...words can't express how i feel about this. HUGE thanx to both alan and 'nana for taking their time to put this together to share with all of us. it's stuff like this that makes me happy to be a prince fan.

hug

Reply #7 posted 12/24/05 2:27pm

NightGod

That was amazing, and by far the most riveting thing I've read on the Org. Thanks to Alan and BC for sharing this wonderful treat with us!

Reply #8 posted 12/24/05 2:29pm

Xpertlover

Very, very cool. Thanks!!!

"How embarrasing to be human!"
- Kurt Vonnegut, 'Hocus Pocus'
Reply #9 posted 12/24/05 2:33pm

MuaPetahl

Awesome read!

Thank You!

~When you understand why you dismiss all other gods, then you will understand why I dismiss yours~
Reply #10 posted 12/24/05 2:52pm

Stax

clapping Thanks!

a psychotic is someone who just figured out what's going on
Reply #11 posted 12/24/05 2:55pm

JudasLChrist

WORD!!!

Reply #12 posted 12/24/05 2:56pm

sosgemini

thumbs up!

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Reply #13 posted 12/24/05 2:58pm

interpret

thumbs up! Thanks Nana kotc U Da Man!
Alan clapping

?Cause me and u could have been a work of art

BE BLESSED!!
Reply #14 posted 12/24/05 3:02pm

NouveauDance

Absolutely fantastic. Thank you, thank you so much for this interview to everyone involved - fascinating, insightful and thought provoking.

A great Xmas present from the org and Mr Leeds thumbs up!

Reply #15 posted 12/24/05 3:07pm

DJ506

clapping

Reply #16 posted 12/24/05 3:11pm

SensualMelody

Thanks!!!!
For all the info and...
Especially for the photographs!!! thumbs up!

So...how's everybody doing? smile
Reply #17 posted 12/24/05 3:20pm

lilgish

yea clapping bow

Reply #18 posted 12/24/05 3:26pm

piemel

awesome

job well done

congrats

Reply #19 posted 12/24/05 3:29pm

CinisterCee

The org fuckin' rules.

Reply #20 posted 12/24/05 3:34pm

katt

I thoroughly enjoyed reading the above thank you Alan and 'nana. smile

Reply #21 posted 12/24/05 3:43pm

Snap

Sad that we often relegate our best friends to mere acquaintances. Alan knows of what he speaks. Some would do well to listen. There is much truth here.

Reply #22 posted 12/24/05 3:43pm

sy72

Fantastic reading! Great questions and brilliant, thoughtful answers.

I saw a documentary on Prince and listening to Alan Leeds in that was great. Now after reading his answers here.....I can only imagine that if his memoirs get published it will be an awesome read.

Thank you Alan.

Steve

Melbourne,Australia

Reply #23 posted 12/24/05 3:48pm

Ifsixwuz9

Good read. Thanks to Mr. Leeds and 'Nana.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I'll play it first and tell you what it is later.
-Miles Davis-
Reply #24 posted 12/24/05 4:00pm

UndercovaBrotha

That was an absolutely fantastic read. I can't say how greatful I am for someone such as Mr. Leeds to do something like this out of his precious time. I can't say thank you enough.

Thanks for putting this together 'Nana and Alan!

Ooh, little darlin' if you're
free 4 a couple of hours (Free 4 a couple of hours)
If U ain't busy 4 the next 7 years (Next 7 years)
Say, let's pretend we're married and go all night
Reply #25 posted 12/24/05 4:20pm

purplecam

That was simply incredible. Truly for me the highlight of the org for me in 2005. Thanks to Nana for such a great interview with someone as insightful and incredible as Alan Leeds. I'm so glad to still be a Prince fan after this.

Prince.org is a cemetery where folks mourn Prince instead of celebrate him and his music. Last time I checked, Prince isn't dead yet.
rainbow
Reply #26 posted 12/24/05 4:43pm

Bfunkthe1

Great gift for x-mas! I loved the way Alan broke it down on Prince's output the last 15 years. Agreed with Alan on so many points especially how Prince's "views" have changed since the early days on things such as race, religion, sexuality etc. Kinda sad when you think about it but Prince doesn't seem to be the open-minded all inclusive person he use to be. Just my opinion. I Still have much love though.

Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way.
Reply #27 posted 12/24/05 4:57pm

CHIC0

brilliant. woot! thank you for sharing.

i really enjoyed question 5 and 15 thumbs up!

Reply #28 posted 12/24/05 5:14pm

Jude

What an AWSOME gift!

Thank you Mr. Leeds and EVERYONE here at the Org.

Peace in '06

Reply #29 posted 12/24/05 5:21pm

mynameisnotsusan

Didn't expect such forthright responses and I'm in total agreement. Thank you so much for your honest insights.

Happy Holidays, the org rocks!

Reply #30 posted 12/24/05 5:27pm

SexyBeautifulOne

The perfect gift for any Prince fan! Thanks so much!!!

Reply #31 posted 12/24/05 5:29pm

suomynona

excellent work smile

Reply #32 posted 12/24/05 5:43pm

metalorange

Wow. I'm so chuffed that one of my questions was chosen. It really is a cool Christmas present! Thanks so much to Alan, 'Nana and the Org.

What great, well-considered responses. I was particularly fascinated to hear that he pretty much feels the same frustrations most of us do about re-masters/vault material, that era of poor quality protege albums, and poor single choices. It's just great to hear someone from the inside of Prince's camp talking honestly and directly.

Great stuff!

Reply #33 posted 12/24/05 5:45pm

cshadow

eek WOW eek

SUCK IT UP!
Reply #34 posted 12/24/05 5:49pm

gsh

Very very good indeed.
His answer to Q20 and his "final thoughts" echo what I'm sure many of us older fans feel.
Kudos.

All orgnotes and emails requesting trades or how to acquire bootleggage will be ignored. - The ThreadKiller -
Reply #35 posted 12/24/05 5:51pm

coolcat

thumbs up!

Great interview! Thanks Alan and BC!

Reply #36 posted 12/24/05 6:00pm

CJBabyDaddy

Very insightful. If this doesn't get the org a Nobel Prize, nothing will. thumbs up!

Reply #37 posted 12/24/05 6:20pm

Doozer

eek Wow -- one heck of a read from Alan, a guy whose integrity, honesty and level-headedness is certainly in part responsible for so many things cherished by folks who love the Prince of the past, present and future! Prince should consider himself fortunate to have had Alan at his side for so long and it is definitely obvious that Alan counts his blessings from each and every professional and personal experience he's had.

Makes one jealous in a very good-natured way. Major thanks to the org, 'Nana and Alan for putting so much effort into this -- it was like reading outtakes from The Hits liner notes!

clapping

Reply #38 posted 12/24/05 6:21pm

uptown26

This was great!!! Thanks to 'Nana and Mr Leeds!

To GOD be the Glory!
Reply #39 posted 12/24/05 6:23pm

BSK3478

btw--question #18 is the stuff, man. giggle

Reply #40 posted 12/24/05 7:01pm

Brendan

It’s obvious that Alan approached this online contribution -- one that will probably be seen by something like 20,000 people -- with the same care, class, and thoughtfulness that he would have if it were appearing in a magazine with a circulation of 200,000 or in the liner notes of an album destined for sales of 2 million.

That tells me a great deal about Alan’s character and the respect that he has for the music and his fellow music connoisseurs.

Reply #41 posted 12/24/05 7:11pm

MoonSongs

'nana ~ what a phenomenal read!!!! Enlightening, intelligent and a rare glimpse inside. Thank you so much to both you and Mr. Leeds. What a great Christmas gift for us!!!! Love you 'nana!!!!! hug

Music is the language of the spirit. It opens the secret of life bringing peace, abolishing strife. --Kahlil Gibran
Reply #42 posted 12/24/05 7:11pm

andykeen

Wow, that was a great read, never skiped, just fantastic, thank U Alan, that was just one heck of a read.

But a huge shout out to BC,great job hug

WOW WOW WOW biggrin

If the wind blew every petal from your precious red rose, Would U be afraid of what U'd find inside?

Keenmeister

Carl Weathers 4 Ever
Reply #43 posted 12/24/05 7:14pm

CandaceS

Wow! This is the best Christmas present I could have asked for! biggrin Many thanks to Alan and everyone involved in making this happen. How awesome, to get such thoughtful and insightful answers from an insider (who's an admitted big fan too!).

Some highlights for me:

"I think Alex Hahn's "Possessed" is the best Prince book of its kind to date. Alex devoted a ton of time and labor to get things as accurate as possible." So there, all you critics! razz

"From a fan's viewpoint, the state of Prince's archive is a travesty." Amen! sad

"...Though no lawyer, I assume his tape archive would be viewed as part of his general estate. On the other hand, anything that was recorded during the years he was under contract to Warner Brothers couldn't technically be released without Warners approval or involvement."
omfg Oh no, if that's true, then forget about hearing anything from the vault, at least as long as he's alive! I can't imagine WB and Prince ever coming to an agreement. Or, as Alan talked about in another answer, that the material would be treated and packaged appropriately.

The answer to Question 20 in its entirety.

P.S. Thanks also for the exclusive pics!

cool

Reply #44 posted 12/24/05 7:33pm

utopia7

and this should be written in the bible of musical truth cuz he told it

headbang

Reply #45 posted 12/24/05 7:49pm

avatarfunk

well done!clapping


a true christmas gift indeed.

Reply #46 posted 12/24/05 8:32pm

RiccoTheArtist

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

oh my goodness...words can't express how i feel about this. HUGE thanx to both alan and 'nana for taking their time to put this together to share with all of us. it's stuff like this that makes me happy to be a prince fan.

hug


I thought the interview was awsome but....this statement floored me! WOW

Thanks for posting this interview.
wink

love you baby but not like my guitar
Reply #47 posted 12/24/05 8:37pm

speculator3m

" The biggest disappointment of Prince today is that he no longer feels the same way"


That says it all. Lovesexy is the 1 til my day is done! may u live 2 see the dawn:)

thx Alan!

Reply #48 posted 12/24/05 9:11pm

Yeshua4all

This is absolutely the best and relevant interview that I've ever seen the org produce. Big Ups to everyone involved. It was quite a coup for this "fam forum". Thank You Mr Leeds for your integrity, unreserved (though at all times repectful) candor, and for keeping the fire of a music fan in your heart over these many years of productive professional management. It's so easy to get jaded once inside the business but it seems obvious to me from reading this interview that you have kept the faith my friend. Kudos and again...many thanks

thumbs up!

Reply #49 posted 12/24/05 9:45pm

NuPwr319

eek Unbelievable! Thanks to all who made this happen, especially Mr. Leeds!

To MJ: "You Rock My World, You Know You Did. . ."

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Reply #50 posted 12/24/05 9:52pm

rozilla

Wow! How succinct, thoughtful, interesting and heartfelt. I feel that this interview is better then all the books put together, ya know?

Thanks to Mr.Leeds and the org peeps for putting this together.

A liberator, exactly!

Love wins. (Seen on bumpersticker)
Reply #51 posted 12/24/05 10:21pm

DorothyParkerWasCool

Excellent Q&A; the best thing I've read on any Prince related website. Alan's insight to Prince's world is so fascinating. And his critique of Prince's last 15 years is on point. Thank you so much for posting this! thumbs up!

Reply #52 posted 12/24/05 10:29pm

wahclavinet

Incredible! THANK YOU ALAN!!!

Reply #53 posted 12/24/05 10:55pm

Graycap23

This was an absolutely refreshing response to the questions that we posed. I am very grateful to Alan for spending his time in such a manner. I for one will be printing this out and adding it as a footnote to my Prince books. I'm sure whom ever inherits my books will appreciate the addition.
Take care. -Mg

The TRUTH.......only exist in 1 form.
The TRUTH.
Reply #54 posted 12/24/05 10:58pm

Jamzone333

psykosoul said:

fantastic read worship


co-sign worship worshipworshipworshipworshipworshipworshipworship

"A united state of mind will never be divided
The real definition of unity is 1
People can slam their door, disagree and fight it
But how U gonna love the Father but not love the Son?
United States of Division"
gigglebowfroguitar
Reply #55 posted 12/24/05 11:48pm

oneradyear

Excellent interview!
And Prince, before you get angry with Alan for sharing some inside info, just know that it makes me want to go out and buy some more of your music for Christmas gifts! smile

Tim Kaye
www.myspace.com/timkaye

Reply #56 posted 12/24/05 11:56pm

Thumparello

Well done!

Reply #57 posted 12/25/05 12:55am

GustavoRibas

(wow, he answered my question smile )
Thanks a lot Alan, for the very detailed replies...it´s great that a person so close to Prince takes some time to write in such a true and detailed way
Thanks the org for making it possible. Merry Xmas to u all.

Peace
Gustavo Ribas
Reply #58 posted 12/25/05 1:03am

alwayslate

YAY!
That was awesome. Thanks to all who made that possible and to Alan Leeds for agreeing do this.
Fantastic.

Reply #59 posted 12/25/05 1:21am

katarina

That was great thumbs up!
Thank you!

/Katarina

Reply #60 posted 12/25/05 2:21am

art

THANK U ORG AND THANK U ALAN.
It was a great piece to read and a very nice christmas present.
Mr. Leeds, u are a very nice and truthful character.

Art.

I'm a Rainbow Children, Xpectation, News and Musicology lover and I'm startin'to be a 3121 lover.
Reply #61 posted 12/25/05 2:29am

Justin1972UK

WOW!

That interview has cleared up so many things... Not least, the fact that everything recorded whilst under contract with Warner Bros. belongs to Warners Bros. Who would have thought it was so cut and dried?

The other thing that intrigued me was this photo...



Without the weird straightened hair and moustache, Miko looks ten years younger than he did ten years ago! He's quite foxy now.

Reply #62 posted 12/25/05 2:47am

Silvergroover

Amen!

Much love to Mr.Leeds!

Reply #63 posted 12/25/05 3:05am

wasitgood4u

Ditto to all the above - truly one of, if not the, best things I've read on the org.
It made me realize - I'm an Alan Leeds fan! (and Eric, of course). How wierd, to realize I'm a fan of someone who is, essentially, an executive/manager. But, I guess I'm a fan of him as a "musicologist" - a fan of his writing (liner notes etc.), a fan of his taste (the musicians he works with and mentions), and a fan of his work - I guess over the years I've come to see him as partly BRINGING us the output of these artists. And if you look at the period he was involved with P, and the answer to Q20, it just makes you wonder about the significance of his presence and input...

(Oh, and how funny that his views on P's work so closely reflect the mainstream wisdom here at the org, in particular of us oldtimers!)

You could be a part-time model, but you'd probably have to keep your normal job
Reply #64 posted 12/25/05 3:28am

CalhounSq

HOLY CRAP!!! I'm SO GLAD I finally got a chance to read this!!! I've been wanting to all day lol woot! eyepop mr.green

FANTASTIC interview!!! Thank you SO MUCH Alan for taking the time to share your thoughts!! biggrin biggrin

'Nana, thank you for putting this together - you fuckin' ROCK!!! hug


I think my favorite part is him singing in your ear along w/ the song so you don't miss anything lol clapping

WOW, sweet interview guys. Really great read nod worship biggrin biggrin

"Bonafide is the old deal, fake is the new real"... - Alice Smith!!
Reply #65 posted 12/25/05 3:31am

manki

What a great reading this was!
Alan Leeds is the coolest guy & it's always
intresting 2 hear what he has 2 say.
/peace Manki

Reply #66 posted 12/25/05 3:32am

dawntreader

Amazing... honest, professional and modest. thanks Mr. Leeds and Bananacologne... thank you very much!

yes SIR!
Reply #67 posted 12/25/05 4:06am

101

tx alot guys! The final note of Alan hits the spot. Prince isn't the same anymore and it is a shame...

Reply #68 posted 12/25/05 4:37am

cabrao

wasitgood4u said:

Ditto to all the above - truly one of, if not the, best things I've read on the org.
It made me realize - I'm an Alan Leeds fan! (and Eric, of course). How wierd, to realize I'm a fan of someone who is, essentially, an executive/manager. But, I guess I'm a fan of him as a "musicologist" - a fan of his writing (liner notes etc.), a fan of his taste (the musicians he works with and mentions), and a fan of his work - I guess over the years I've come to see him as partly BRINGING us the output of these artists. And if you look at the period he was involved with P, and the answer to Q20, it just makes you wonder about the significance of his presence and input...

(Oh, and how funny that his views on P's work so closely reflect the mainstream wisdom here at the org, in particular of us oldtimers!)


This oldtimer agrees. I feel u all the way wasitgood4u. Thank u Mr Alan Leeds for your true honesty.

Reply #69 posted 12/25/05 5:16am

nappybean

on point about today's music,which is reason why we love those artists that come out of left field. their music is different from mainstream.
and i can also relate to prince stony expression i know what it is like to be rejected,those moments in your life stay in your head forever, just trying to protect your feelings.

Reply #70 posted 12/25/05 6:03am

prettymansson

THANK YOU THANK U THANK YOU !!!!!

Reply #71 posted 12/25/05 7:01am

Phill

This is pretty cool to hear some one from the music b talk about his experiences but my god, almost every damn question had "did Prince" "Is Prince" "Was Prince" "What do you think if Prince" ect. Can you imagine if every day you were hounded with questions about some one else. I do understand what he did and what he does for music folks but gawd!

Reply #72 posted 12/25/05 7:30am

calldapplwondery83

Thanks to everyone involved in this!

Reply #73 posted 12/25/05 7:54am

jdcxc

What a great X-Mas gift. Thanks!! I loved the inside baseball politics. The singles choices debates could go on forever. Just remember, without Prince's brilliant contrarian musical mind "Kiss" and "When Doves Cry" probably wouldn't have been first singles. Imagine the enormous pressure on Prince's shoulders to live up to his immense gifts and our expectations. There have been no artists in pop history with his complexity. Unfortunately, too much credit is given to business over art. Leeds' final thought on Prince's conservative leanings of late were needed. Especially coming from someone who obviously cares about what Prince's greatest music represents.

Reply #74 posted 12/25/05 8:05am

wonder505

Phill said:

This is pretty cool to hear some one from the music b talk about his experiences but my god, almost every damn question had "did Prince" "Is Prince" "Was Prince" "What do you think if Prince" ect. Can you imagine if every day you were hounded with questions about some one else. I do understand what he did and what he does for music folks but gawd!


The website is called Prince.org so it would be very silly for Alan Leeds to think otherwise. The only reason we care to interview him is because of Prince and he knows it and should expect it.

Reply #75 posted 12/25/05 8:11am

BobGeorge909

This was an AWSOME response and I thank Alan to the end of the world for it, cuz he didn't have 2 do it.

This showed me that while living in the now can produce astonishing results for a period, there comes a time where one should take the time to plan for the future in more aspects of life than Prince did. Then again, maybe Prince wants his career to reflect "the now" more than a "optimized marketing experience"...that means including the ups and the downs, manufactured or not. Everyone has bad times....I'm sure Prince is aware of his. From early on U could tell that Prince wanted U 2 get a glimpse of what was going on with him....and he's kept that promise.


At the end of it all...The Warners situation is crappy and all. That said...Prince needs to sit down and tell himself to stop all the complaing and tell himself THAT HE SIGNED THOSE CONTRACTS and he needs to deal with the reprocussions of that. He reaped whatever benefits there were to reap from those deals...and benefits don't come without downsides. He was a grown ass man when he entered those agreements and I see him as only being pissed at himself.

One bright day in the middle if the night,
2 dead boys got up to fight.
Back 2 back they faced each other,
drew their swords and shot each other
A deaf Policeman head this noise,
he came and shot the 2 dead boys.
If you don't believe this lie
Reply #76 posted 12/25/05 8:13am

herb4

Superb interview. I appreciate Alan's candidness.

"Free the West Memphis three"

http://www.wm3blackboard..../index.php
Reply #77 posted 12/25/05 8:14am

BobGeorge909

Alan reminds me of a Beta commercial....



Alan doesn't make your Funk and R & B records...he makes your Funk and R & B records funkier and blusier...lol...kinda reminds me of Tommy Dowd...ANOTHER gift to music...RIP Tommy.

One bright day in the middle if the night,
2 dead boys got up to fight.
Back 2 back they faced each other,
drew their swords and shot each other
A deaf Policeman head this noise,
he came and shot the 2 dead boys.
If you don't believe this lie
Reply #78 posted 12/25/05 8:32am

nayroo2002

The Truth!

I KNEW it was out there!!!

Sure, we all have similar opinions/thoughts, but to have them repeated by the man who was there says more than alot!

That pretty much sums it up for me!

Great questions, .Orgers!

Great organization, Bananacologne!!

Great photos and responses, Mr. Alan Leeds!!!

A HUGE thanks to all involved and Happy Holidays!


A Christmas beer for everyone->beer

Reply #79 posted 12/25/05 9:10am

Harlepolis

To be Org interviewed next; Per Neilson.

At least my own wishful thinking lol

That was a sincere read,,,he(Alan) got more common sense than ALL of the people in Paisley Park including shorty himself IMHO nod

I disageree with him on The Rainbow Children tho,,,,I wouldn't change a THING from that album. It is what it is, and I dig it for all its segues and shocking messages, its his(Prince) beliefs, whether we agree with them or not.

Love is just like the faucet
It turns off and on
Sometimes when you think it's on baby
It has turned off and gone


Lady Day sexy
Reply #80 posted 12/25/05 9:31am

sosgemini

Yeshua4all said:

"fam forum"



no no no!


independent and unofficial
Prince fan community site




biggrin

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Reply #81 posted 12/25/05 9:57am

calldapplwondery83

Harlepolis said:

To be Org interviewed next; Per Neilson.

At least my own wishful thinking lol

That was a sincere read,,,he(Alan) got more common sense than ALL of the people in Paisley Park including shorty himself IMHO nod

I disageree with him on The Rainbow Children tho,,,,I wouldn't change a THING from that album. It is what it is, and I dig it for all its segues and shocking messages, its his(Prince) beliefs, whether we agree with them or not.



I agree with you on that. For once, Prince has done a project completely designed by his artistic vision, seemingly not tempered by anything else.

Reply #82 posted 12/25/05 10:57am

GustavoRibas

it´s funny because one of the first things Prince asked Alan was some James Brown stories

It´s great that Alan could tell us some PRINCE stories in a no-gossip and respectful way, that made me admire him even more...now Prince knows how WE feel as fans. smile

Thanks again, Prince.org, for making it possible. I hope there are more in the future.

Peace
Gustavo Ribas
Reply #83 posted 12/25/05 11:11am

ronnie

Thank you!! Thank you!! Thank you!!

Mr. Leeds has provided much depth and insight. He has validated and put into context a lot of what I been feeling and, what others have written here about Prince.

I'm feeling a little verklempt, discuss amongst yourselves....

Reply #84 posted 12/25/05 11:14am

IstenSzek

GustavoRibas said:

it´s funny because one of the first things Prince asked Alan was some James Brown stories

It´s great that Alan could tell us some PRINCE stories in a no-gossip and respectful way, that made me admire him even more...now Prince knows how WE feel as fans. smile

Thanks again, Prince.org, for making it possible. I hope there are more in the future.


i completely agree. Alan comes across as real and sincere! i absolutely
ate up everything he had to write.

looking forward to his first book, it sounds like it's going to be one
mighty fine read indeed!

thumbs up!


thank you very much for your open and friendly words mr Alan Leeds

nod

and i'll dedicate a separate post to thanking 'Nana for making this happen!

thanks a lot man, this is incredible!

hug

i was born with the wrong sign, in the wrong house, with the wrong ascendancy
Reply #85 posted 12/25/05 12:12pm

rudeboynpg

Alan Leeds is awesome and a good guy. nod

Reply #86 posted 12/25/05 12:16pm

Jude

Again... great read.

Anyone know whats up with brother Eric? Any new music?

Reply #87 posted 12/25/05 12:43pm

sinisterpentatonic

After reading this i'mma have to reconsider deactivating my account. wink

Everything i wanted to say has been said on this thread already. Alan is one cool MOFO! Much love and respect to everyone who made this happen!

Reply #88 posted 12/25/05 1:24pm

babynoz

This really is a wonderful Christmas gift!

First of all, Thanks to Mr. Leeds for taking the time to do this and thank you for answering one of my questions. biggrin It's so refresing to hear such insightful, thoughtful and candid thoughts from someone on the inside. And the fact that there was nothing salacious or gossipy included reflects well the character and integrity of Mr. Leeds. Prince is fortunate to have had you with him for so many years. Btw, the pictures are great, nice to see the Leeds family.

Thanks also for confirming that Prince the person, is very much as I imagine him to be.

Thanks to 'Nana and the Org for making it happen.

And about TRC, I disagree as well, but there ya go. cool

"After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill...the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill...you stay in wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes."
Reply #89 posted 12/25/05 2:22pm

superspaceboy

worship that was great! Really insightful and quite in depth. Alan's views on the music industry and Prince's dealing with it was very insightful.

thank you for this!


Christian Zombie Vampires

Reply #90 posted 12/25/05 2:43pm

jn2

More interesting than the new single smile, thanks Alan Leeds and thanks Prince Org people!

Reply #91 posted 12/25/05 3:28pm

VelvetJ

OK, I could REALLY be friends with this man. For other reasons besides this interview, Alan seems like he would be just cool to hang out with or a great person to come over to play cards with on a Friday night.

This was a wonderful read, and I'm sooooo glad Alan didn't make Prince out to be some perfect savior who makes no mistakes or bad decisions, like unfortunately some of Prince's fans still make him out to be. This was what I call a REAL interview. No one is perfect, no not even Prince.

Alan, if you read this, thanks so much for the interview.

I am convinced Beyonce's career would not be where it is, if she had dark skin.
Reply #92 posted 12/25/05 3:42pm

p3r1i9nce

Thank you so much for this fantastic Christmas gift! It was the best interview I have ever read on this site. Do I dare hope for a part 2?

Proud member of the Naked Orgers Club
Reply #93 posted 12/25/05 4:00pm

Love2tha9s

That was so very cool of him cool .

He seems like a nice dude biggrin .

"Why'd I waste my kisses on you baby?"
Reply #94 posted 12/25/05 5:32pm

ajra

Now that's a Christmas present! Way better than an electric griddle.

Thanks 'nana.

Reply #95 posted 12/25/05 5:34pm

CalhounSq

Phill said:

This is pretty cool to hear some one from the music b talk about his experiences but my god, almost every damn question had "did Prince" "Is Prince" "Was Prince" "What do you think if Prince" ect. Can you imagine if every day you were hounded with questions about some one else. I do understand what he did and what he does for music folks but gawd!


Oh give me a break - it's PRINCE.Org ya goof lol I'm sure he expected a lot of Prince questions. hammer

"Bonafide is the old deal, fake is the new real"... - Alice Smith!!
Reply #96 posted 12/25/05 6:48pm

PurpleKnight

Yeah, really. I guess we should've asked him what his favourite sandwich is and shit like that instead. nuts

The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.

"You still wanna take me to prison...just because I won't trade humanity for patriotism."
Reply #97 posted 12/25/05 7:08pm

Jillibean

Thank you, I really enjoyed reading it biggrin

Reply #98 posted 12/25/05 7:46pm

Wowugotit

Prince needs Wendy & Lisa so bad!!!!! God!!! Please reveal to Prince that he needs W&L!

Reply #99 posted 12/25/05 9:29pm

HamsterHuey

Dear Mr Leeds,

Thanks for taking the time to answer our questions, but also to give us such elaborate answers!


A great Xmas gift!

Reply #100 posted 12/25/05 9:29pm

HamsterHuey

And a hug for Nana.

Thanks for pulling this off.

Reply #101 posted 12/25/05 10:08pm

ThreadBare

Nana, you rock!


And, Mr. Leeds is true class in an industry seemingly devoid of it.

This was an immense treat.

Reply #102 posted 12/26/05 1:51am

dag

I also believe a "Prince Live" career retrospective could make for a phenomenal box set. He had so many significant gigs professionally recorded that one could easily document every phase of his career with terrific concert material. Packaged with dignity, such a set could go a long way towards, once and for all, cementing Prince's place alongside the musical giants of our lifetime.

THAT´s a GREAT IDEA!!!


THANKS FOR THE ARTICLE!!!!!

"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
Reply #103 posted 12/26/05 2:52am

thebiscuit

biggrin Thankyou so much for organising this, and a big thanks to Mr Leeds for agreeing to it. Merry Christmas from South Africa! biggrin

Reply #104 posted 12/26/05 2:53am

Cloudbuster

starstarstarstarstar

"Think inside out." stoned
Reply #105 posted 12/26/05 5:27am

demob

That was grand! The selection of questions was really nice and the answers made a very interesting reading. The time both of you guys spent was really worth it!

D.
--

Reply #106 posted 12/26/05 6:38am

mzflash

Excellent read, thanks for the new interview cool cool !

Reply #107 posted 12/26/05 7:10am

Ace

Thanks to 'Nana and Alan for an engrossing read. This is the man who should be both managing and producing Prince.

Reply #108 posted 12/26/05 7:15am

OdysseyMiles

Awesome. Thank you, guys! clapping

Reply #109 posted 12/26/05 7:48am

tbag

This was awesome! Thanks to the Org and Mr. Leeds for a great holiday gift!

~If you're lookin' for somewhere to go....
Reply #110 posted 12/26/05 8:18am

serpan99

That was an awesome read, thanks 2 everybody making this happen!! biggrin
star star star star star

Reply #111 posted 12/26/05 8:21am

TheCatWoman

Yes, great read smile
Thanks Prince.org and Mr. Leeds.

lol I got a laugh out of "resurrecting Chaka Khan and Larry Graham" lol

,
[Edited 12/27/05 10:50am]

Reply #112 posted 12/26/05 8:21am

JimmyNothing

This was quite simply, amazing

Alan Leeds- thank you so much for taking the time to do this. And thank you from the bottom of my heart for my gift! You really didn't have to offer a gift- taking the time to answer these Q's was more than enough. You have made this an extra special Christmas for me and I will cherish the colour print. I know exactly where I'm going to put it and I think I'll post a photograph here at the org to show it in it's new home. Thank you, thank you, thank you! bow

'Nana- This was such a great read. I was excited when I first read about the interview and was looking forward to reading the answers (as you know! wink ) and it has surpassed all of my expectations. You have done an amazing job and you are an org LEGEND! bow

Thank you to all involved in this and fingers crossed for a book!

clapping

Put yourself on the worldwide org map! www.frappr.com/princeorg
Reply #113 posted 12/26/05 9:41am

BlueAngel

Thanku so for this! worship

xmas

-------------------------------------------------
"When loneliness met love the world turned purple..."
Reply #114 posted 12/26/05 10:17am

Moonwalkbjrain

that was beautiful! really great, looved the story about prince lettin his guard down in the limo. can't wait for the memoirs! thanks alan!

Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
...And i'm gonna be groovy in it!
Reply #115 posted 12/26/05 11:57am

Milty

wow that was a great read. it's not like we need to understand Prince any better but it sure did have great insights from a person who was closer than anyone else on earth.

Thanks 'Nana and Alan.



ps - my question was cool too tho.

cool

Reply #116 posted 12/26/05 12:19pm

NightGod

I've read this article a few times now (it's THAT good!) and my favorite part is the story Alan tells about Prince playing the new track for him. His mention of Prince singing lyrics right into his ear at certain points reminds me of the video of Kiss, when Prince does exactly the same thing to Wendy.

I think the most amazing this about this article is the lack of negativity shown by Orgers. I'm used to the negativity now, and it's really refreshing that everyone genuinely enjoyed and could agree with the honest statements that Alan made.

Alan was very candid about Prince's legacy and his recent output, but he remains optimistic about Prince's potential to amaze us. I couldn't agree more.

I've never been one to wish for "the good old days" when it comes to Prince. I'm more interested to hear what he does next, and part of that appeal is not knowing that eveything he does will suit my taste.

Thanks again to Alan for the time.

Reply #117 posted 12/26/05 12:50pm

prettymansson

Right on...thank you Mr Leeds...and the staff here at the org...RIGHT ON !!!!

by the way Alan Leeds is just as insightful on the james brown "soul survivor" documentary... wink

Reply #118 posted 12/26/05 3:21pm

Rhondab

Wowugotit said:

Prince needs Wendy & Lisa so bad!!!!! God!!! Please reveal to Prince that he needs W&L!



WTH!!!! rolleyes





Thanks for a great interview!!!

Reply #119 posted 12/26/05 5:04pm

CandaceS

TheCatWoman said:

...I would have asked him if he had any knowledge of Prince suit with Warner Brothers and if there was any truth to the amount of money P won. I heard it was somewhere around $500,000,000. nuts


Huh? I'm not aware he ever actually filed a civil suit against WB, let alone that he won or negotiated any huge settlement. On what basis would he sue them? He was the one who didn't want to comply with the contract, trashed them publicly, etc....how did they let him down?

If a jury had awarded a settlement of that amount, it would have been headline news; even if they'd negotiated a settlement, surely I would have heard something about it. Anyone else got any info on this?

Reply #120 posted 12/26/05 6:09pm

stinka

fukkin' fantastic! Thanks so much for this Q&A..! the best one yet!

Alan has so many stories to share, it would take volumes to capture. wink

Reply #121 posted 12/26/05 6:29pm

Zelaira

He's Very Cool to do this interview. A Great read. He's Honest and Nice. He Rocks.....

Reply #122 posted 12/26/05 6:45pm

CalhounSq

Rhondab said:

Wowugotit said:

Prince needs Wendy & Lisa so bad!!!!! God!!! Please reveal to Prince that he needs W&L!



WTH!!!! rolleyes


falloff

"Bonafide is the old deal, fake is the new real"... - Alice Smith!!
Reply #123 posted 12/26/05 6:57pm

the12love38

MuaPetahl said:

Awesome read!

Thank You!
thanx for the lovely footage and did i mention the info thanx once again

the12love38
Reply #124 posted 12/26/05 7:17pm

Marrk

Great work. That was nice to read.biggrin

"Don't hate the Black, don't hate the White. If you get bitten, just hate the bite."
Reply #125 posted 12/26/05 8:21pm

bkw

Great stuff!!!

When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading.
Reply #126 posted 12/26/05 9:01pm

althom

Brilliant! razz

I have vegemite and you don't! nana
Reply #127 posted 12/26/05 9:38pm

CherrieMoonKisses

What a wonderful Xmas gift. cloud9 mushy Thanx! heart

OK Prince. This year... if your ready, then Im ready.

RIP MJ and RIP NaNa
Reply #128 posted 12/27/05 12:14am

HamsterHuey

NightGod said:

I've read this article a few times now (it's THAT good!)


I know what you mean. I was SO surprised (and then again, not) that Mr Leeds took the time to write out such elaborate little stories for us.

I especially liked his admittal he is just a fan, like us, when it comes to most music.

My highlights are indeed also the playing music for Mr Leeds, but also the fact that he considers the music he made the last fifteen years a dissappointment, not counting a few highlights (like The Gold Experience)

I just looooove his insights into Prince's dealings with WB, art and music. If Prince ever reads this, I hope he will take a few pointers when it comes to having a good connection to his fans. I love the fact Mr Leeds can talk about some of Prince's weak business deals without sounding bitter.

Reply #129 posted 12/27/05 12:20am

muirdo

absolutely bloody brilliant.

The time and consideration that Mr Leeds must have put into this is truly amazing.
Thanks to all who made this possible.

Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
woot!
KrystleEyes 22/03/05
Reply #130 posted 12/27/05 4:56am

laurarichardson

HamsterHuey said:

NightGod said:

I've read this article a few times now (it's THAT good!)


I know what you mean. I was SO surprised (and then again, not) that Mr Leeds took the time to write out such elaborate little stories for us.

I especially liked his admittal he is just a fan, like us, when it comes to most music.

My highlights are indeed also the playing music for Mr Leeds, but also the fact that he considers the music he made the last fifteen years a dissappointment, not counting a few highlights (like The Gold Experience)

I just looooove his insights into Prince's dealings with WB, art and music. If Prince ever reads this, I hope he will take a few pointers when it comes to having a good connection to his fans. I love the fact Mr Leeds can talk about some of Prince's weak business deals without sounding bitter.

-----
I hope some of you are not going ignore some of Alan's comments about WB and P's former mgmt and the fact that Alan gives P some credit for some of the things he is trying to do outside of the traditional music industry.

Reply #131 posted 12/27/05 6:14am

Tom

Moderator

What a great interview. Big thank you to Bananacologne for coordinating this, and another big thank you to Alan Leeds for providing some great insight into Prince and his music.

smile

Reply #132 posted 12/27/05 6:19am

altavista

Thank you so much, Mr. Leeds.

It is so refreshing to hear that someone in your position is still well aware of how we feel as fans. I particularly found interesting your points regarding the state of Prince's archives and the quality of his work over the past 10 years. Also, your business insights help all of us have a better context for the output that we are receiving and for setting our expectations.

Thanks to the whole orger team who put this together! It was extremely well done.

Come here, babe.. yeah...
Reply #133 posted 12/27/05 6:20am

CandaceS

This didn't jump out at me the first time I read it, but it's in his answer to Question 15: "For whatever reason, Prince was usually shy about releasing a ballad as the plug side of a single." Well, I guess he changed in that respect! wink

Reply #134 posted 12/27/05 6:24am

youngyosh

Alan Leeds - LEGEND nod

GREAT READ THANKS SO MUCH clapping clapping

You know ,if i want to listen to a machine id just go put my clothes in it!musicP '98
Reply #135 posted 12/27/05 8:46am

Shorty

wow! thanks Banana and Mr. Leeds. that was cool biggrin

damn it! I had a great quote from george washington but it doesn't fit here.
Reply #136 posted 12/27/05 9:54am

Anxiety

now THIS is why we have an internet.

bow

Reply #137 posted 12/27/05 10:14am

sbacon1999

Thank you Mr. Leeds. That was fantastic. Class act all the way.

Reply #138 posted 12/27/05 12:02pm

andyman91

This reminds us that despite all of the unconventional decisions Prince has made & continues to make, he has made some very wise & conventional decisions, such as having Alan Leeds in his career. It's probably no coincidence that he was part of Prince's most successful ten years.

The answer to question 2 was very enlightening, and a bit depressing.

I like this, too: "What? And look like you instead of a star? Nobody will pay to see someone who looks like an everyday guy!" We all know nobody's ever been popular who wore jeans!

Reply #139 posted 12/27/05 1:44pm

newpowergeneration

thanks Alan. Knowing there are people like you in the music biz makes me have faith in it.

check out my amazing funk party mixes (loadsa prince!) on http://silic0n.net/ OR
check out the thread at: http://www.prince.org/msg/15/181855
Reply #140 posted 12/27/05 2:09pm

rozilla

I like how Prince travels with the ladies.

Love wins. (Seen on bumpersticker)
Reply #141 posted 12/27/05 2:36pm

MIGUELGOMEZ

andyman91 said:

This reminds us that despite all of the unconventional decisions Prince has made & continues to make, he has made some very wise & conventional decisions, such as having Alan Leeds in his career. It's probably no coincidence that he was part of Prince's most successful ten years.

The answer to question 2 was very enlightening, and a bit depressing.

I like this, too: "What? And look like you instead of a star? Nobody will pay to see someone who looks like an everyday guy!" We all know nobody's ever been popular who wore jeans!



I hope Prince does know who Springsteen is.....


M

MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" PM "This thread is like a sexual orientation hall of mirrors"
Reply #142 posted 12/27/05 2:58pm

CoJones

Gracias a Sr Leeds y Nana; wonderful read, very insightful! Bravo!

"be glad that you are free, many a man is not"
Reply #143 posted 12/27/05 3:28pm

purpleizpassion

Thank you Alan Leeds for being a pure class act, honest, down to earth, and graciously offering your time and energy to bless the Org. Prince was fortunate to have you.

The Org friggin RAWKS! I'm proud to be a member of this site and the Prince fan community. Most people don't get an opportunity to access the wealth of information people like 'Nana (and many others) have a passion to offer. heart hug

Ice Creeeeeam!!!!dancing jig


Live like its the style...
Reply #144 posted 12/27/05 3:30pm

HamsterHuey

laurarichardson said:

I hope some of you are not going ignore some of Alan's comments about WB and P's former mgmt and the fact that Alan gives P some credit for some of the things he is trying to do outside of the traditional music industry.


Sure, but very often Prince's timing is not very ON, as he is also quick to point out.

When I compare Prince's online offerings (site-wise) and compare it to Björk's site or the concert-straight-to-the-online-community service Phish had, Prince's site is just a vanity thing.

I am sure there are loads of people who have been waiting for scented candles and stuff, but I would love a more direct approach, instead of the 'heavy hinting'-techniques NPGmc members are subjected to. News stating the facts, not beating around the bush.

I would love Prince's site handing out teasers as soon as an album is released. I rather prefer the way it used to be; Cat leaking a scribbled note with the tracklist of Lovesexy...

Reply #145 posted 12/27/05 3:47pm

PurpleRein

Mr. Leeds certainly gave well thought out answers. What a gentleman

Reply #146 posted 12/27/05 4:54pm

Dewrede

nice read , thanks thumbs up!

Reply #147 posted 12/27/05 5:27pm

GustavoRibas

HamsterHuey said:


If Prince ever reads this, I hope he will take a few pointers when it comes to having a good connection to his fans. I love the fact Mr Leeds can talk about some of Prince's weak business deals without sounding bitter.


- Agreed. His comments were real nice and honest, without being bitter. He praised, he criticized, but with respect for the person and musician Prince.

Peace
Gustavo Ribas
Reply #148 posted 12/27/05 5:54pm

napoleon370

This was perhaps one of the best free insights into Prince's musical genius and artistic and business shortfalls. The questions were professionally answered, the selection of questions were outstanding, and conducted with class.

To the Prince.org community -- Thanks!

Reply #149 posted 12/27/05 6:50pm

luv4u

Moderator

moderator

Thank you Nana and thank you Mr. Leeds bow clapping

Edmonton, AB - canada - If you're happy and you know it clapping your hands, if you're happy and you know it do a dancing jig
Reply #150 posted 12/27/05 6:57pm

setyrmindphree

What I love best about these type of "insider" interviews is the revelation of the human side of the subject.

Especially, Prince. He has spent so much energy trying to control and manipulate his image and projections that a fan can lose any sense of connection. People want to see the human side of other people. That may not be what makes us interested at first, but it is defintely what keeps one coming back. Think of any relationship you've had. Especially, long term. The musical relationship a fan has with an artist is just that, a relationship.

I have also thought how cool it would be for Prince to show up in jeans and a T-shirt on Jay Leno or Oprah and be an ordinary guy. I haven't walked in his shoes and I don't have his brain chemistry, but I think Prince would be suprised at the response he would get from fans and casual listners.

Mr. Leeds nailed the 90's inner turmoil and the late 90's early 2000's spiritual growth. The name change to a symbol was not about contracts, it was about spiritual growth. Prince's best music is still to come. Mainly because he has grown. Just like the rest of us because after all he is human.

Mr. Leeds comments on Prince's coming to grips on aging were interesting.

Truly exceptional interview!!! Thanks Mr. Leeds and BC
[Edited 12/27/05 19:06pm]

Reply #151 posted 12/28/05 3:38am

CandaceS

andyman91 said:


...I like this, too: "What? And look like you instead of a star? Nobody will pay to see someone who looks like an everyday guy!" We all know nobody's ever been popular who wore jeans!




wink

Reply #152 posted 12/28/05 6:57am

calldapplwondery83

That's why you're paying big money to see an aftershow in 2002?

The last thing I want to see Prince do, is to get outside producers.

Reply #153 posted 12/28/05 7:19am

HamsterHuey

calldapplwondery83 said:

That's why you're paying big money to see an aftershow in 2002?

The last thing I want to see Prince do, is to get outside producers.


I am SO talking about his studio production now. Live he can still ressurect a stupid tune and make it a jam.

Outside producer Rick Rubin did wonders for Johnny Cash and just recently for chewed on and spit out Neil Diamond. As long as people go and do the job of helping Prince deliver ace quality music, I have NO problems with outside producers. Too bad Prince has, hehehe.

Reply #154 posted 12/28/05 9:54am

soul41

Bfunkthe1 said:

Great gift for x-mas! I loved the way Alan broke it down on Prince's output the last 15 years. Agreed with Alan on so many points especially how Prince's "views" have changed since the early days on things such as race, religion, sexuality etc. Kinda sad when you think about it but Prince doesn't seem to be the open-minded all inclusive person he use to be. Just my opinion. I Still have much love though.




Good Morning, I enjoyed reading the Alan Leeds Q & A as he was on point as to the state of Princes music. but he lost me when he stated that Prince's views changed from the early days on things such as: Race, Religion and Sexuality, One would think kmaybe his views change as a result of getting older,I myself find that I no longer agree with certains things like before, is that saying I am not open-minded.

For example: I believe that homosexuality is wrong am I closed minded for saying that. HELL TO THE NAW!!! that means I am entilted to my beliefs and if you don't try to change me I won't try to change you. Some of us and even Alan I dare say, forget that we have this thing called FREE WILL, and If Prince decided as he got older that maybe, just maybe some of the things he did back in the day was not appropriate, then so be it,that does not however, mean he is close-minded. Sometimes I wonder about that saying: "The Older you get the Wiser you get? HMMMMM!!!!!

Reply #155 posted 12/28/05 10:23am

andyman91

He is so right on about so many things. I particularly agreed with what he said about some artists not having the perspective to make the best decisions about how to present their material.

The One Night Alone box set was a great example. As good as it is, anyone who's been to a Prince concert knows it could have been much better. And It Ain't Over was particularly disappointing.

And the Rainbow Children. I love the record as is, but the public's inability to hear the amazing music tells me that he probably shouldn't have had Darth Vadar narrate it.

Prince is great for having his own vision and sticking to his own beliefs, but all artists should listen to outside opinions occasionally, and trust in other folks' talents (like film directors).

Reply #156 posted 12/28/05 10:29am

andyman91

HamsterHuey said:

calldapplwondery83 said:

That's why you're paying big money to see an aftershow in 2002?

The last thing I want to see Prince do, is to get outside producers.


I am SO talking about his studio production now. Live he can still ressurect a stupid tune and make it a jam.

Outside producer Rick Rubin did wonders for Johnny Cash and just recently for chewed on and spit out Neil Diamond. As long as people go and do the job of helping Prince deliver ace quality music, I have NO problems with outside producers. Too bad Prince has, hehehe.


Prince doesn't need anyone to tweak knobs for him but he needs a Rick Rubin to tell him that his song needs a hook, melody, etc., despite the brilliant playing & arrangement.

Reply #157 posted 12/28/05 10:35am

jone70

Very cool!
Thanks for coordinating this. I'm going to print it out and add to my Prince file. wink

prince.org yes

The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
Reply #158 posted 12/28/05 12:15pm

Anji

Eye absolutely LOVE Alan's story n response 2 ?uestion 18.

The whole Q&A has left me yearning 4 Alan 2 write something more comprehensive on the man himself. Not only does Alan have an excellent way with words, n share a unique n thoroughly fascinating perspective on Prince, but eye love that he also comes across as a truly genuine, humble kinda guy.

Eye have a sneaking suspicion Prince will have read the transcript by now n eye'd b surprised if he hasn't, at the very least, gauged the responses here. 1 can only hope that the right buttons r b ing pushed 2 make Prince reCONsider his legacy and the somewhat sad state of affairs it is b ing left 2 die n.

A simple 'thank u' doesn't quite seem sufficient, but nonetheless, Alan, thank u.
U r an absolute legend around these parts!

love,
Anji

P.S.

Best of luck with D'Angelo. Given his predicament, y don't u give P a call this New Year?
There can b all kinds of musical alter-egos under 3121. Don't u wanna come?

Reply #159 posted 12/28/05 12:57pm

altavista

setyrmindphree said:



The name change to a symbol was not about contracts, it was about spiritual growth.

[Edited 12/27/05 19:06pm]


Umm... I think Prince has pretty much set the record straight on this one many times. He changed to the symbol to get out of his record contract.....

For example, May 16, 2000 -- press conference
"On Dec 31, 1999, my publishing contract with Warner expired, thus emancipating the name I was given before birth, Prince, from all long-term restrictive documents. I will now go back to using my name instead of the symbol that I adopted as a means to free myself from all undesirable relationships."

Radio interview: April 2004 (Mojo from Detroit)
"The reason I changed my name was to get out of my contract. Once i told the record company that I wasn't going to go by Prince anymore, I gave them an unprouncable symbol to deal with. Now at that point, they really didn't know what to think of me."

Come here, babe.. yeah...
Reply #160 posted 12/28/05 2:16pm

setyrmindphree

altavista said:

setyrmindphree said:



The name change to a symbol was not about contracts, it was about spiritual growth.

[Edited 12/27/05 19:06pm]


Umm... I think Prince has pretty much set the record straight on this one many times. He changed to the symbol to get out of his record contract.....

For example, May 16, 2000 -- press conference
"On Dec 31, 1999, my publishing contract with Warner expired, thus emancipating the name I was given before birth, Prince, from all long-term restrictive documents. I will now go back to using my name instead of the symbol that I adopted as a means to free myself from all undesirable relationships."

Radio interview: April 2004 (Mojo from Detroit)
"The reason I changed my name was to get out of my contract. Once i told the record company that I wasn't going to go by Prince anymore, I gave them an unprouncable symbol to deal with. Now at that point, they really didn't know what to think of me."


I'm aware his explanations. Just not buying um. Don't think screwing with WB was the sole purpose. Legally, it would make no differnece. He knew that. Just because you change your name it does not provide an escape from a contract. Try that with a bank loan. I beleive he was searching spiritually and distancing himself from his past. Think how interesting it would be if you did not have a name. Wouldn't it change your feelings about yourself. Makes you look inside a little deeper. He questions the meaning of names quite a few times in songs. Just a personal opinion.
[Edited 12/28/05 14:17pm]

Reply #161 posted 12/28/05 2:31pm

metalorange

altavista said:

setyrmindphree said:



The name change to a symbol was not about contracts, it was about spiritual growth.

[Edited 12/27/05 19:06pm]


Umm... I think Prince has pretty much set the record straight on this one many times. He changed to the symbol to get out of his record contract.....

For example, May 16, 2000 -- press conference
"On Dec 31, 1999, my publishing contract with Warner expired, thus emancipating the name I was given before birth, Prince, from all long-term restrictive documents. I will now go back to using my name instead of the symbol that I adopted as a means to free myself from all undesirable relationships."

Radio interview: April 2004 (Mojo from Detroit)
"The reason I changed my name was to get out of my contract. Once i told the record company that I wasn't going to go by Prince anymore, I gave them an unprouncable symbol to deal with. Now at that point, they really didn't know what to think of me."


To be fair, there are just as many quotes of Prince saying 'his spirit' told him to change his name, and that it was all about a 'spiritual awakening'. I think it was a combination of everything. Even if he couldn't get out of his record contract by using a different 'name', it appears he had the notion he could record albums for Warner's under 'Prince' and independent music under the symbol name, which is what he originally intended for the 'Come' and 'Gold Experience' albums, of course Warner's believed he would keep the stronger material for his own albums.

Reply #162 posted 12/28/05 2:39pm

gypsyfire

"Jill Jones(whom I adore-a more talented lady than the album suggests)"

Tell 'em,Alan!


nana

I DON'T WANT TO BE NORMAL,because normal is part of the status quo,which I don't want to be a part of- Tori Amos
Reply #163 posted 12/28/05 2:52pm

alexnvrmnd

setyrmindphree said:

Mr. Leeds nailed the 90's inner turmoil and the late 90's early 2000's spiritual growth. The name change to a symbol was not about contracts, it was about spiritual growth.

Uh, the name change to a symbol was ALL about contracts, nothing spiritual. Prince himself (when he changed his name back to Prince) even admitted that he only changed it so he record and release all the music he wanted to under a different name for contractual reasons.

Reply #164 posted 12/28/05 2:56pm

alexnvrmnd

altavista said:

setyrmindphree said:



The name change to a symbol was not about contracts, it was about spiritual growth.

[Edited 12/27/05 19:06pm]


Umm... I think Prince has pretty much set the record straight on this one many times. He changed to the symbol to get out of his record contract.....

For example, May 16, 2000 -- press conference
"On Dec 31, 1999, my publishing contract with Warner expired, thus emancipating the name I was given before birth, Prince, from all long-term restrictive documents. I will now go back to using my name instead of the symbol that I adopted as a means to free myself from all undesirable relationships."

Radio interview: April 2004 (Mojo from Detroit)
"The reason I changed my name was to get out of my contract. Once i told the record company that I wasn't going to go by Prince anymore, I gave them an unprouncable symbol to deal with. Now at that point, they really didn't know what to think of me."

LOL! I should've kept on reading this thread because this was my point exactly!! And, why would someone choose to not believe this after he's admitted that his first take, of it being spiritual, on it was wrong/a lie? If the person himself admits it was baloney, why try to hang on to a different, false excuse (and yes, this is directed towards setyrmindphree)?

Reply #165 posted 12/28/05 3:33pm

setyrmindphree

alexnvrmnd said:

altavista said:



Umm... I think Prince has pretty much set the record straight on this one many times. He changed to the symbol to get out of his record contract.....

For example, May 16, 2000 -- press conference
"On Dec 31, 1999, my publishing contract with Warner expired, thus emancipating the name I was given before birth, Prince, from all long-term restrictive documents. I will now go back to using my name instead of the symbol that I adopted as a means to free myself from all undesirable relationships."

Radio interview: April 2004 (Mojo from Detroit)
"The reason I changed my name was to get out of my contract. Once i told the record company that I wasn't going to go by Prince anymore, I gave them an unprouncable symbol to deal with. Now at that point, they really didn't know what to think of me."

LOL! I should've kept on reading this thread because this was my point exactly!! And, why would someone choose to not believe this after he's admitted that his first take, of it being spiritual, on it was wrong/a lie? If the person himself admits it was baloney, why try to hang on to a different, false excuse (and yes, this is directed towards setyrmindphree)?


Where did he "admit" that his first take of it being spiritual was wrong or a lie. I'm actually not challenging you, I would be interested in reading or listening to what he said. Because I don't know, and would like to, did the WB conflict start before or after the name change? Wasn't the name change in '93 sometime?

Reply #166 posted 12/28/05 3:37pm

setyrmindphree

metalorange said:

altavista said:



Umm... I think Prince has pretty much set the record straight on this one many times. He changed to the symbol to get out of his record contract.....

For example, May 16, 2000 -- press conference
"On Dec 31, 1999, my publishing contract with Warner expired, thus emancipating the name I was given before birth, Prince, from all long-term restrictive documents. I will now go back to using my name instead of the symbol that I adopted as a means to free myself from all undesirable relationships."

Radio interview: April 2004 (Mojo from Detroit)
"The reason I changed my name was to get out of my contract. Once i told the record company that I wasn't going to go by Prince anymore, I gave them an unprouncable symbol to deal with. Now at that point, they really didn't know what to think of me."




To be fair, there are just as many quotes of Prince saying 'his spirit' told him to change his name, and that it was all about a 'spiritual awakening'. I think it was a combination of everything. Even if he couldn't get out of his record contract by using a different 'name', it appears he had the notion he could record albums for Warner's under 'Prince' and independent music under the symbol name, which is what he originally intended for the 'Come' and 'Gold Experience' albums, of course Warner's believed he would keep the stronger material for his own albums.


I agree, that's why I don't think it was all about business. If anybody does have a quote of him dismissing the spiritual importance please post

Reply #167 posted 12/28/05 3:47pm

wonder505

As I read the second paragraph in Question #20, I keep thinking...you mean to tell me that no-one was around to tell Prince that his music was wack in the 90s. He didn't have any friends to tell him to be himself and let the music flow.

I question this because this interview gives the impression that Prince was confused at times and didn't know which direction to take. Where were his friends/collegeus...OR....is Prince the type of person who just doesn't listen and takes advice well.

Reply #168 posted 12/28/05 4:37pm

BananaCologne

wonder505 said:

As I read the second paragraph in Question #20, I keep thinking...you mean to tell me that no-one was around to tell Prince that his music was wack in the 90s. He didn't have any friends to tell him to be himself and let the music flow.

I question this because this interview gives the impression that Prince was confused at times and didn't know which direction to take. Where were his friends/collegeus...OR....is Prince the type of person who just doesn't listen and takes advice well.


It's not an interview, it's a Question & Answer session - people would do well to remember that distinction before reading too much into things or taking them out of context.

Just a thought.

Reply #169 posted 12/28/05 4:40pm

eugnj420

I agree wholeheartedly about the comments on Prince and hip-hop.
There are very few good Prince "rap" tunes ("18 and over" sticks out in my mind as the only really good one.)
I was sad to see Prince inject rap into his early 90's work.
Even back then, it was clear that Prince was so above it, and not very good at it.
I mean, come on man, you're a musical genuis. If I want guys who couldn't write an original melody or play an instrument to save their lives (excluding The Roots here), I'll turn to rap. But usually, I don't.

Reply #170 posted 12/28/05 4:45pm

Anji

eugnj420 said:

I was sad to see Prince inject rap into his early 90's work.
Even back then, it was clear that Prince was so above it, and not very good at it.


So above it?
P digs the hip-hop art form.
And he had his own style.
Days Of Wild n e 1?

love

Reply #171 posted 12/28/05 5:05pm

Anji

The 'act' of discarding the PRINCE name inevitably gave rise 2 spiritual growth. During those tumultuous years, the name 'change' can b viewed of as 1 of the pivotol factors that P held on 2, n that pulled him thru. Eye suspect he let go of the notion ONLY when he no longer felt he needed it's support.

love

.
[Edited 12/28/05 17:06pm]

Reply #172 posted 12/28/05 5:22pm

Boriqua1130

Thank you Mr. Nana hug and Mr. Leeds hug & Orgers - for the questions hug

"Marriage is a fine institution, but I'm not ready for an institution."

"It's better to be looked over, than overlooked."

Mae West @)-}----
Reply #173 posted 12/28/05 7:16pm

DMSR

Thanks Alan, I can't wait for the book. I read Miles copeland's book about the Police, and it was great, and not exploitive.

Here's some of my favorite quotes-

Chick turned around toward us and reported, "the guys say there's a traffic jam 2 blocks long, more fans than the police can handle and more cameras than a photography store!"

At that point Prince suddenly lost it. Just for a flash, but like any mortal human being, he lost it. He suddenly gripped my hand in a desperate vice and his voice broke as he strained to whisper in a tone that sounded like a petrified ten year old, "Whhh..aa..tttt d-diid he saayy?"


haha

______________________________________________

onedayimgonnabesomebody
Reply #174 posted 12/28/05 7:46pm

Snap

wonder505 said:

As I read the second paragraph in Question #20, I keep thinking...you mean to tell me that no-one was around to tell Prince that his music was wack in the 90s. He didn't have any friends to tell him to be himself and let the music flow.

I question this because this interview gives the impression that Prince was confused at times and didn't know which direction to take. Where were his friends/collegeus...OR....is Prince the type of person who just doesn't listen and takes advice well.


that last part
other people from that time period (i'm thinking 1991-1993)
tried to tell him
but.. he didn't listen

Reply #175 posted 12/28/05 7:50pm

dewalliz

Wowugotit said:

Prince needs Wendy & Lisa so bad!!!!! God!!! Please reveal to Prince that he needs W&L![/b]


no he doesnt.

anywoo i think that it is a great interview of alan leeds. so who's next matt fink or andre? what about brownmark?
[Edited 12/28/05 19:51pm]

Reply #176 posted 12/28/05 9:33pm

MarcelJ

Alan Leeds gets it. Prince lost HIS sound in the 90's by trying to incorporate what others were doing. When Emanicaption came out, a fellow Prince fan and keyboard player at that time for La Bouche told me he recognized several of the loops on that cd from libraries. I notice them everytime I played that cd after that.

I also agree that Prince seems to have refound his own sound the past three years and I'm hopeful we'll be seeing/hearing some good/great things from him again soon.

Reply #177 posted 12/29/05 12:50am

ImYours

My feelings on this interview:

Good side - the stories about Prince in the purple limo during the Groman's publicity stunt and about Prince having a vision for a Lovesexy video and song were very insightful, and I got very wrapped up in them while reading.

Bad side - the whole deal about Prince not knowing the legacy he is leaving behind. He most certainly knows his legacy, and he is just doing what he can to make sure that he has a say in what legacy is left behind. Repackaging songs and live set, etc., is just rehashing the past. Like what they did to Jimi Hendrix - just saying that man's name makes me so mad. Look what they did to him.

Overall, good interview, but from someone who hasn't really kept up with Prince since parting ways, and therefore only a limited viewpoint.

Reply #178 posted 12/29/05 4:09am

metalorange

MarcelJ said:

Alan Leeds gets it. Prince lost HIS sound in the 90's by trying to incorporate what others were doing. When Emanicaption came out, a fellow Prince fan and keyboard player at that time for La Bouche told me he recognized several of the loops on that cd from libraries. I notice them everytime I played that cd after that.

I also agree that Prince seems to have refound his own sound the past three years and I'm hopeful we'll be seeing/hearing some good/great things from him again soon.


I can't completely agree with that. Prince of the 80's incorporated what others had done before him - funk, rock, soul, etc James Brown, Jimi Hendrix, Family Stone, etc - into his music. Trying to incorporate sounds of the 90's was the same process. There aren't many 'true' rap songs by Prince, he mostly just incorporated elements into his style - a brave experiment, and something not many artists would even attempt. Whether he pulled it off or not is mostly subjective. I loved the 80s sound, but I also loved the completely different sound of the 90s.

Reply #179 posted 12/29/05 10:24am

alexnvrmnd

setyrmindphree said:

alexnvrmnd said:


LOL! I should've kept on reading this thread because this was my point exactly!! And, why would someone choose to not believe this after he's admitted that his first take, of it being spiritual, on it was wrong/a lie? If the person himself admits it was baloney, why try to hang on to a different, false excuse (and yes, this is directed towards setyrmindphree)?


Where did he "admit" that his first take of it being spiritual was wrong or a lie. I'm actually not challenging you, I would be interested in reading or listening to what he said. Because I don't know, and would like to, did the WB conflict start before or after the name change? Wasn't the name change in '93 sometime?

Well, he admitted it by simply saying his reason for changing his name was for business or contracual reasons. That's pretty much saying "It wasn't what I said it was before" because before, all he said was that his reason for doing it was for something spiritual and some Higher Power told him what his name "really was". rolleyes He didn't need to scream the words, "I admit I lied before about why I changed my name!" for him to still basically say his original explanation was not on the up and up. Again, I point to altavista's post of his quotes as proof. He only said it was spiritual to begin with so he could seem more ethereal, philisophical, spiritual, and mysterious (which is an aura he's been trying to project his entire career).

Reply #180 posted 12/29/05 10:34am

Anji

alexnvrmind, do u disagree that the 'act' of discarding the PRINCE name inevitably gave rise 2 spiritual growth?

2 reiterate, during those tumultuous years, the name 'change' can b viewed of as 1 of the pivotol factors that P held on 2, n that pulled him thru. Eye suspect he let go of the notion ONLY when he no longer felt he needed it's support.

love

Reply #181 posted 12/29/05 10:39am

GoldenGlove

smile

Reply #182 posted 12/29/05 10:56am

metalorange

alexnvrmnd said:

setyrmindphree said:



Where did he "admit" that his first take of it being spiritual was wrong or a lie. I'm actually not challenging you, I would be interested in reading or listening to what he said. Because I don't know, and would like to, did the WB conflict start before or after the name change? Wasn't the name change in '93 sometime?

Well, he admitted it by simply saying his reason for changing his name was for business or contracual reasons. That's pretty much saying "It wasn't what I said it was before" because before, all he said was that his reason for doing it was for something spiritual and some Higher Power told him what his name "really was". rolleyes He didn't need to scream the words, "I admit I lied before about why I changed my name!" for him to still basically say his original explanation was not on the up and up. Again, I point to altavista's post of his quotes as proof. He only said it was spiritual to begin with so he could seem more ethereal, philisophical, spiritual, and mysterious (which is an aura he's been trying to project his entire career).


You could also argue that initially he was telling the truth, but came up with a more practical explanation later when it suited him.

After all, if it was purely business reasons, why did he continue to use the symbol name for Emancipation, Crystal Ball and Rave which were all recorded when his contract for Warner's had been completed? On Rave he announced that 'Prince' was the producer - as though he was easing himself back into using the name.*
*After reading the Vault, it appears he still had a publishing deal with Warner Chappell Music (which I gather is slightly different to Warner's proper) up until the end of 1999, which is why he kept using the symbol name. Prince has registered a lot of unreleased songs, perhaps those he registed while under Warner Chappell are the vault items he can't release?

You can look at it that he had finally realised his symbol name was a hindrance, alienating his audience, and so came up with a bunch of digestable practical business reasons why he had started the symbol name in an attempt to get back to using the more marketable and seriously-taken name 'Prince' while still maintaining some dignity.

You could also argue that he changed his name to try and get out of his record contract, but that his spirit picked the ACTUAL name to use. That way, both sides of the statements are valid.
[Edited 12/29/05 11:33am]

Reply #183 posted 12/29/05 11:12am

PsychedelicMama

eek Wow, what beautiful feelings that read brought back for P's music!

How you gonna get my back when you frontin'?
Reply #184 posted 12/29/05 12:30pm

Graycap23

MarcelJ said:

Alan Leeds gets it. Prince lost HIS sound in the 90's by trying to incorporate what others were doing. When Emanicaption came out, a fellow Prince fan and keyboard player at that time for La Bouche told me he recognized several of the loops on that cd from libraries. I notice them everytime I played that cd after that.

I also agree that Prince seems to have refound his own sound the past three years and I'm hopeful we'll be seeing/hearing some good/great things from him again soon.


Those loops that you are speaking about were all probably related to the tracks that Kirky J was involved in. -Mg

The TRUTH.......only exist in 1 form.
The TRUTH.
Reply #185 posted 12/29/05 2:08pm

baXtos

dewalliz said:

Wowugotit said:

Prince needs Wendy & Lisa so bad!!!!! God!!! Please reveal to Prince that he needs W&L![/b]


no he doesnt.

anywoo i think that it is a great interview of alan leeds. so who's next matt fink or andre? what about brownmark?
[Edited 12/28/05 19:51pm]


Oh yes, Prince Wendy & lisa need each other bad, thoser 3 were born to compliment each orther's music!!

GREAT INTERVIEW! Please, bring Susan ROGERS next!

Reply #186 posted 12/29/05 3:22pm

TonyVanDam

I sure learnt a lot today. Thanks BC! cool

Tupac "Makaveli" Shakur (RIP 1971-1996) & Michael Jackson (RIP 1958-2009)

2 men that had their lives taken away the moment they were speaking out AND rebelling against the dark side of the music industry once too often.
Reply #187 posted 12/29/05 4:53pm

JonnyApplesauce

Good read. One man amounts to a great deal more than another man's opinion of him.

"...and you believed that story? You believed that?" The Godfather Part II
Reply #188 posted 12/29/05 5:36pm

CandaceS

baXtos said:

... Please, bring Susan ROGERS next!


nod nod nod I'm sure that would be equally informative and interesting!

Reply #189 posted 12/29/05 5:45pm

dewalliz

baXtos said:

dewalliz said:



no he doesnt.

anywoo i think that it is a great interview of alan leeds. so who's next matt fink or andre? what about brownmark?
[Edited 12/28/05 19:51pm]


Oh yes, Prince Wendy & lisa need each other bad, thoser 3 were born to compliment each orther's music!!

GREAT INTERVIEW! Please, bring Susan ROGERS next!


I think not!!! lol lol HE needs Andre, Brownmark and Dez back. Skip Lisa and Wendy, although I will keep Lisa because I like her better pre-Purple Rain the days when she was told what to play and to sing. When Wendy came along, her and Lisa ruined Prince's records with their weird psychedelic influence. Thank goodness Prince left that alone after he fired them, although Prince's work declined after he made SOTT which I considered his comeback album since 1984.

Also he needs to bring back Dr. Fink and get Sheila E in the mix.

Reply #190 posted 12/29/05 6:03pm

CandaceS

dewalliz said:

... When Wendy came along, her and Lisa ruined Prince's records with their weird psychedelic influence. Thank goodness Prince left that alone after he fired them....


But what about Parade? Do you hear a psychedelic influence on there? I don't think W&L should be held accountable for the sound of ATWIAD, that was Prince's idea.

Reply #191 posted 12/29/05 6:23pm

dewalliz

CandaceS said:

dewalliz said:

... When Wendy came along, her and Lisa ruined Prince's records with their weird psychedelic influence. Thank goodness Prince left that alone after he fired them....


But what about Parade? Do you hear a psychedelic influence on there? I don't think W&L should be held accountable for the sound of ATWIAD, that was Prince's idea.


Are you deaf? lol lol L&W's influences were everywhere on those crappy albums like ATWIAD and Parade, psychedelic or not. Isn't funny the Prince's albums from 1978-84 there wasnt trace of that sound that you can hear on ATWIAD and Parade. Even Lisa and Wendy said themselves they have heavy input on ATWIAD and Parade. Yes Prince does make the final decision on what songs going on those records still L&W's influences on ATWIAD and Parade was very heavy my dear. Even L&W's hardcore fans would agreed.

Anyway back to the subject I think that Alan was very informative and detail oriented with the interview. I hope the org going to do more interviews from Prince's former associates.

Reply #192 posted 12/29/05 6:47pm

NightGod

While I can understand the thought behind "Bring Wendy and Lisa back" or "Bring (insert random former bandmember here) back", even "Bring the Linn drum and Oberheims back", I think it may be missing the point.

I'll go on record to say that my favorite "Prince era" did involve collaborations with some amazing people, but life isn't about going back to repeat the same old stuff, is it? Wendy and Lisa have matured and (to me at least) always been great songwriters and musicians, but I can't help but think that if Prince, Wendy and Lisa locked themselves away and recorded a new album, that most of those wishing for it would be disappointed. Why? They have all grown older and lead different lives than they did in the 80's. The end result, as beautiful and breathtaking as it would be, would not be Purple Rain part deux, Parade Returns or Sign of the Times - the six disc set.

Here's my idea of a more sensible wish for the future of Prince. I'd like to see Prince to collaborate with some talented new people. I'd like to hear him pushed in new directions, not pushed back to where he was 20 years ago.

Ok, now I'm stretching, but I'd also like to see Prince as part of a band that's not his own. I'd love to see him just jam on bass for a tour for someone else, just because I love his bass playing so much. However, I can't think of any existing group that he could do that with.
[Edited 12/29/05 18:58pm]

Reply #193 posted 12/29/05 6:58pm

dewalliz

NightGod said:

While I can understand the thought behind "Bring Wendy and Lisa back" or "Bring (insert random former bandmember here) back", even "Bring the Linn drum and Oberheims back", I think it may be missing the point.

I'll go on record to say that my favorite "Prince era" did involve collaborations with some amazing people, but life isn't about going back to repeat the same old stuff, is it? Wendy and Lisa have matured and (to me at least) always been great songwriters and musicians, but I can't help but think that if Prince, Wendy and Lisa locked themselves away and recorded a new album, that most of those wishing for it would be disappointed. Why? They have all grown older and lead different lives than they did in the 80's. The end result, as beautiful and breathtaking as it would be, would not be Purple Rain part deux.

Here's my idea of a more sensible wish for the future of Prince. I'd like to see Prince to collaborate with some talented new people. I'd like to hear him pushed in new directions, not pushed back to where he was 20 years ago.



I agreed. Also I don't expecting Prince to repeat himself but damn he needs to bring that hardcore funk and rock that I missed but no I dont want a rehash since this is a different era. He can still have the sound that I missed in his new album but with new flavor though.

Reply #194 posted 12/29/05 7:11pm

BananaCologne

Just so everybody is in the loop here, constructive criticism is welcomed on this thread, as are thoughts on Alan and his answers. However...ANY sign of veering too far off track, and I will ensure we get back on it - swiftly.

Just so we're all on the same page...mmmk?

Do continue. wink

Reply #195 posted 12/29/05 7:23pm

JimmyNothing

He's collaborating with Clare Fischer again so maybe there's more truth to these W&L rumours than meets the eye.

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Reply #196 posted 12/29/05 7:53pm

2freaky4church1

I agree with someone here who wrote that the 90's music was overrall pretty good--actually, the shit was great, at times. The slog, musically, has more to do with Prince's religious ideals, where risk is not part of the plan. His lyrics have to please the Watchtower masters, and his sound has to be pleasing to his new ideas about a more fascist and controlling God. Hardcore religious people just don't make good music. The religion stunts growth in the psyche--democracy is what brings out the fire and artistic want in artists. Prince is fried, in that respect.

Leeds pretty much summed up my thoughts about Prince. He is a man or honor and truth, and he seems to still really care about Prince. The Church only cares about controlling Prince's mind and money.

Real friends know when to pull the cold water in the face bit. Prince is afraid of having real friends. He looks in the mirror and that man staring back, doesn't smile. He is calculating, at this very moment, in becoming a by the numbers pop artist, devoid of any real artistry. It is all about the surface now--so we all better get used to it.

wildsign Wave your wildsigns high!! wildsign
Reply #197 posted 12/30/05 12:06am

Nothinbutjoy

Many thanks to Mr. Leeds and 'nana for taking the time to put this together. It is a great read!


rose

Reply #198 posted 12/30/05 12:15am

HamsterHuey

JimmyNothing said:

He's collaborating with Clare Fischer again so maybe there's more truth to these W&L rumours than meets the eye.


But he never stopped working with Clare Fisher.

Reply #199 posted 12/30/05 3:39am

calldapplwondery83

2freaky4church1 said:

He is calculating, at this very moment, in becoming a by the numbers pop artist, devoid of any real artistry. It is all about the surface now--so we all better get used to it.



That's your view of it. None of us is are Prince's mind, and we don't even know any details of what's to come yet.

Reply #200 posted 12/30/05 10:41am

nickfunk

thank you to Alan and all the orgers involved in this !!!


nickfunk


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Reply #201 posted 12/30/05 11:33am

dualboot

BIG THANKS FOR YOUR TIME...

Excellent read for me as long time follower.

Work in progress at www.theblackalbum.info
(looking for grey and white vinyl numbers to add to the found list.
Reply #202 posted 12/30/05 7:05pm

murph

eugnj420 said:

I agree wholeheartedly about the comments on Prince and hip-hop.
There are very few good Prince "rap" tunes ("18 and over" sticks out in my mind as the only really good one.)
I was sad to see Prince inject rap into his early 90's work.
Even back then, it was clear that Prince was so above it, and not very good at it.
I mean, come on man, you're a musical genuis. If I want guys who couldn't write an original melody or play an instrument to save their lives (excluding The Roots here), I'll turn to rap. But usually, I don't.



First I have to say that Mr. Leeds seemed really sincere in his comments; I agree for the most part with his statements....Also, I agree that Prince had no business fucking with hip-hop, But the way I'm reading your post eugnj420, is that you are basically saying that hip-hop artists are talentless hacks... Prince wasn't above incorporating hip-hop because hip hop artists lacked artistic merit...During the early '90s D&P era, hip-hop was truly a beast...I love the homie Prince, but, at that point Nas, Dr. Dre, A Tribe Called Quest, De La Soul, Wu Tang Clan, Notorious BIG, Black Moon, and Mobb Deep were all releasing some of the genre's most influential and groundbreaking albums and collectively was making the same cultural impact P, MJ, and Madonna made in the '80s...Yeah, Prince was above trying to jump on the bandwagon; However, what it really comes down to is Prince lacked a fundamental respect and understanding of hip-hop music and culture as evident by his recruitment of Tony M. That's the real truth, not that fact that a Nas couldn't play guitar, bass, drums, or keyboard...

Reply #203 posted 12/31/05 1:17am

fran

thank you very much for putting this interview together! it was a great read!

Reply #204 posted 01/01/06 4:56pm

engineer9

I guess this puts to rest the idea that DMSR and POSSESSED were accurate. Now maybe I can get some rest! lol

There ain't no arguing with a man that was there!

Reply #205 posted 01/01/06 5:24pm

brothaluv

this was wonderful....thanks to all involved in putting it together.

Reply #206 posted 01/02/06 6:31am

metalorange

I think fans of hiphop/rap can be far too precious about the genre of music. There's far too much concern about the artist being 'real' and from the street. Even within the field, acts have a go at each other for not being 'real' enough; it seems like you are not taken seriously unless you have been shot in a drive-by!

If you're not too precious about it, you can see it more simply as a genre of music that bits and pieces can be borrowed from, much like hiphop borrows heavily from rock and funk. In that context, Prince was actually quite successful - somebody must have liked his hiphop imitative work, because Diamonds & Pearls was one of his biggest selling albums.

Reply #207 posted 01/02/06 7:48am

giotto

metalorange said:

somebody must have liked his hiphop imitative work, because Diamonds & Pearls was one of his biggest selling albums.


word

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"You don't frighten us, English pig dogs. Go and boil your bottoms, sons of a silly person."
Reply #208 posted 01/02/06 9:13am

JonnyApplesauce

Actually Irresistable Bitch and Heaven Must Be Near are arguably hip hop cuts although that prolly wasnt his intention. Funky as a mofo too.

"...and you believed that story? You believed that?" The Godfather Part II
Reply #209 posted 01/02/06 3:53pm

byan

Wonderful interview!

Reply #210 posted 01/03/06 7:30am

booyah

I finally had a chance to sit and read this (on my first day back at work - lol), and it is a wonderful read! Thanks Alan and everyone who wrote such great questions.

I am one of the Orgeanic 6
Reply #211 posted 01/03/06 4:16pm

XxAxX

thanks to Mr. Leeds for taking the time to respond! very interesting

ufo
Reply #212 posted 01/03/06 7:10pm

BJB

This was the best read. I thoroughly appreciated the in-depth answers, for a better insight to how Prince's musicmanship had evolved during the first 15 years. I can only hope that Prince can pull out some funk again and wax it.

Reply #213 posted 01/04/06 5:03pm

KingOfNYC

Alan makes a couple references to Prince's 'disturbing lyrics'. Do you know what he is refering to, and why?

"Personally, I find it discouraging that Prince's proselytizing in recent years even hints at religious, racial or sexual prejudices that he never represented back in the day"

and more importantly:

"When the music did seem to step up a notch, such as on the RAINBOW CHILDREN album, it was compromised by a few curiously disturbing lyrics"

Reply #214 posted 01/04/06 5:12pm

metalorange

KingOfNYC said:

Alan makes a couple references to Prince's 'disturbing lyrics'. Do you know what he is refering to, and why?

"Personally, I find it discouraging that Prince's proselytizing in recent years even hints at religious, racial or sexual prejudices that he never represented back in the day"

and more importantly:

"When the music did seem to step up a notch, such as on the RAINBOW CHILDREN album, it was compromised by a few curiously disturbing lyrics"


I assume he would be referring to such as 1+1+1=3 whose lyrics firmly place women on a lower level than men, and Family Name, which some have implied has digs at Jewish names.

Reply #215 posted 01/04/06 5:16pm

moonshine

metalorange said:

Prince was actually quite successful - somebody must have liked his hiphop imitative work, because Diamonds & Pearls was one of his biggest selling albums.


very true , and I love the D & P album , though I wonder how many people bought it on the basis of wanting to hear hip hop , after all most of the single releases weren't that genre at all , Gett Off yes , Cream , the title track , Money Don't Matter and Thunder havent got a trace of hip hop on them , and in fact I think the whole pigeon-holing of Diamonds and Pearls as "Prince doing hip hop " does the variety of the album a huge injustice , how many tracks on there are really hip hop , 4 maybe at a push , the rest of the album ( in my opinion the best stuff on the album ) is a million miles from it .

Great Q & A by the way , and my question was chosen too biggrin

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Reply #216 posted 01/04/06 8:05pm

ALLMACK

MAMMOTH UPS

Reply #217 posted 01/04/06 8:30pm

Zelaira

Alan,..So Cool.

Reply #218 posted 01/05/06 3:13am

Juize

Thank you Mr. Leeds biggrin I really appreciate that you go your own way and tell what you think could be told and keep private what should be private.

Much respect and have a very pleasing 2006

Peace

Juize

Reply #219 posted 01/05/06 7:29am

KFUNK

Great read! Thank U Alan 4 sharing your insights and experiences with us. Best of luck in the future and I can't wait 4 that D'Angelo joint 2 drop someday. cool

We need 2 come 2gether...come 2gether as ONE hug

We need 2 come 2gether, come 2gether as ONE
Reply #220 posted 01/06/06 6:23pm

justhemusic

what a great read...what a cool cat...

Thanks mr Leeds for taking the time to do this. Absolutely facinating stuff for music fanatics like myself.

I too am fascinated with the musical process and those who create it (even though i play nothing myself.) What i wouldn't give to sit down and hear the stories you must have to tell.

looking forward to that book of yours.

(btw I'm a big Meshell & Dangelo fan myself...i think they are both the 'real deals' too...i'm looking forward watching both of their careers evolve as well.)

thanks again for contributing to this site AND more importantly for contributing to the MUSIC we've loved so much over the years.

Reply #221 posted 01/07/06 12:13pm

sumtymes

wow. this article took me back 2 the genisis of the purple path it's been an amazing road with more 2 come thanks alan 4 helping 2 nurture and guide a revolution of music and mind

Reply #222 posted 01/12/06 12:06pm

brownsugar

since i'm not over here much, i just saw this, wow very insightful. i might print this out for my dad who loves to collect vinyl. its nice to hear more about what prince is like.

Reply #223 posted 01/13/06 7:04pm

violett

omg i just read this whole thing now.

awesome. im speechless really.

be the change you wish to see in the world.....ghandi. worship
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Reply #224 posted 01/18/06 6:08pm

LillianLaughs

metalorange said:

KingOfNYC said:

Alan makes a couple references to Prince's 'disturbing lyrics'. Do you know what he is refering to, and why?

"Personally, I find it discouraging that Prince's proselytizing in recent years even hints at religious, racial or sexual prejudices that he never represented back in the day"

and more importantly:

"When the music did seem to step up a notch, such as on the RAINBOW CHILDREN album, it was compromised by a few curiously disturbing lyrics"


I assume he would be referring to such as 1+1+1=3 whose lyrics firmly place women on a lower level than men, and Family Name, which some have implied has digs at Jewish names.


I've always interpreted Family Name as a view on discrimination not by race, but by name. That's what's really going on at least in Holland, where I live. It's devastating for arabs and unfairly benefits the aristocracy.

And 1+1+1=3 is about the falseness of the trinity, as it is proclaimed by the Catholic church, as far as I see it.

Still I do agree that there is a feeling of intolerance and prejudice in Prince's later music but for sleep's sake I'm not going to give examples!
razz

Reply #225 posted 01/21/06 1:17pm

chiltonmusic

This is pretty awesome guys thanks for posting this.

Peace

THE CARDINAL HAS SPOKEN!!!
Reply #226 posted 01/21/06 1:58pm

EmancipationLover

2freaky4church1 said:

I agree with someone here who wrote that the 90's music was overrall pretty good--actually, the shit was great, at times. The slog, musically, has more to do with Prince's religious ideals, where risk is not part of the plan. His lyrics have to please the Watchtower masters, and his sound has to be pleasing to his new ideas about a more fascist and controlling God. Hardcore religious people just don't make good music. The religion stunts growth in the psyche--democracy is what brings out the fire and artistic want in artists. Prince is fried, in that respect.

Leeds pretty much summed up my thoughts about Prince. He is a man or honor and truth, and he seems to still really care about Prince. The Church only cares about controlling Prince's mind and money.

Real friends know when to pull the cold water in the face bit. Prince is afraid of having real friends. He looks in the mirror and that man staring back, doesn't smile. He is calculating, at this very moment, in becoming a by the numbers pop artist, devoid of any real artistry. It is all about the surface now--so we all better get used to it.


1. I think we should resprect Prince at least so much not to call the God he believes in a "fascist".

2. "Hardcore religious people don't make good music." - Have you ever heard of someone called Johann Sebastian Bach???

And, back on topic, thanks 'Nana for the great Q&A! thumbs up!

prince
Reply #227 posted 01/21/06 10:28pm

largeroomnolight

That was amazing. It just doesn't get much better than that.

~B

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