URL: http://prince.org/msg/7/171968/
Date printed: Sun 22nd Nov 2009 11:32am PST
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ALAN LEEDS - THE QUESTIONS, THE ANSWERS & MORE BESIDES...
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Alan Leeds, some musician guy, and German promoter Roland
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FUCKING AWESOME!!! Thanks BC!! |
fantastic read |
Very interesting indeed |
Goddamn, that was just wonderful. I absolutely love the way he summarized the problems with Prince's more recent output. Great read. The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
"You still wanna take me to prison...just because I won't trade humanity for patriotism." |
oh my goodness...words can't express how i feel about this. HUGE thanx to both alan and 'nana for taking their time to put this together to share with all of us. it's stuff like this that makes me happy to be a prince fan.
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That was amazing, and by far the most riveting thing I've read on the Org. Thanks to Alan and BC for sharing this wonderful treat with us! |
Very, very cool. Thanks!!! "How embarrasing to be human!"
- Kurt Vonnegut, 'Hocus Pocus' |
Awesome read!
~When you understand why you dismiss all other gods, then you will understand why I dismiss yours~ |
a psychotic is someone who just figured out what's going on |
WORD!!! |
Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. |
?Cause me and u could have been a work of art
BE BLESSED!! |
Absolutely fantastic. Thank you, thank you so much for this interview to everyone involved - fascinating, insightful and thought provoking.
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Thanks!!!!
So...how's everybody doing? |
yea |
awesome
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The org fuckin' rules. |
I thoroughly enjoyed reading the above thank you Alan and 'nana. |
Sad that we often relegate our best friends to mere acquaintances. Alan knows of what he speaks. Some would do well to listen. There is much truth here. |
Fantastic reading! Great questions and brilliant, thoughtful answers.
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Good read. Thanks to Mr. Leeds and 'Nana. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I'll play it first and tell you what it is later. -Miles Davis- |
That was an absolutely fantastic read. I can't say how greatful I am for someone such as Mr. Leeds to do something like this out of his precious time. I can't say thank you enough.
Ooh, little darlin' if you're
free 4 a couple of hours (Free 4 a couple of hours) If U ain't busy 4 the next 7 years (Next 7 years) Say, let's pretend we're married and go all night |
That was simply incredible. Truly for me the highlight of the org for me in 2005. Thanks to Nana for such a great interview with someone as insightful and incredible as Alan Leeds. I'm so glad to still be a Prince fan after this. Prince.org is a cemetery where folks mourn Prince instead of celebrate him and his music. Last time I checked, Prince isn't dead yet.
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Great gift for x-mas! I loved the way Alan broke it down on Prince's output the last 15 years. Agreed with Alan on so many points especially how Prince's "views" have changed since the early days on things such as race, religion, sexuality etc. Kinda sad when you think about it but Prince doesn't seem to be the open-minded all inclusive person he use to be. Just my opinion. I Still have much love though. Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. |
brilliant. |
What an AWSOME gift!
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Didn't expect such forthright responses and I'm in total agreement. Thank you so much for your honest insights.
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The perfect gift for any Prince fan! Thanks so much!!! |
excellent work |
Wow. I'm so chuffed that one of my questions was chosen. It really is a cool Christmas present! Thanks so much to Alan, 'Nana and the Org.
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SUCK IT UP! |
Very very good indeed.
All orgnotes and emails requesting trades or how to acquire bootleggage will be ignored. - The ThreadKiller - |
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Very insightful. If this doesn't get the org a Nobel Prize, nothing will. |
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This was great!!! Thanks to 'Nana and Mr Leeds! To GOD be the Glory! |
btw--question #18 is the stuff, man. |
It’s obvious that Alan approached this online contribution -- one that will probably be seen by something like 20,000 people -- with the same care, class, and thoughtfulness that he would have if it were appearing in a magazine with a circulation of 200,000 or in the liner notes of an album destined for sales of 2 million.
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'nana ~ what a phenomenal read!!!! Enlightening, intelligent and a rare glimpse inside. Thank you so much to both you and Mr. Leeds. What a great Christmas gift for us!!!! Love you 'nana!!!!! Music is the language of the spirit. It opens the secret of life bringing peace, abolishing strife. --Kahlil Gibran |
Wow, that was a great read, never skiped, just fantastic, thank U Alan, that was just one heck of a read.
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Wow! This is the best Christmas present I could have asked for! My site:
http://www.myspace.com/candace_66 |
and this should be written in the bible of musical truth cuz he told it
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well done! |
Handclapsfingasnapz said: oh my goodness...words can't express how i feel about this. HUGE thanx to both alan and 'nana for taking their time to put this together to share with all of us. it's stuff like this that makes me happy to be a prince fan.
I thought the interview was awsome but....this statement floored me! WOW Thanks for posting this interview. love you baby but not like my guitar |
" The biggest disappointment of Prince today is that he no longer feels the same way"
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This is absolutely the best and relevant interview that I've ever seen the org produce. Big Ups to everyone involved. It was quite a coup for this "fam forum". Thank You Mr Leeds for your integrity, unreserved (though at all times repectful) candor, and for keeping the fire of a music fan in your heart over these many years of productive professional management. It's so easy to get jaded once inside the business but it seems obvious to me from reading this interview that you have kept the faith my friend. Kudos and again...many thanks
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Wow! How succinct, thoughtful, interesting and heartfelt. I feel that this interview is better then all the books put together, ya know?
Love wins. (Seen on bumpersticker) |
Excellent Q&A; the best thing I've read on any Prince related website. Alan's insight to Prince's world is so fascinating. And his critique of Prince's last 15 years is on point. Thank you so much for posting this! |
Incredible! THANK YOU ALAN!!! |
This was an absolutely refreshing response to the questions that we posed. I am very grateful to Alan for spending his time in such a manner. I for one will be printing this out and adding it as a footnote to my Prince books. I'm sure whom ever inherits my books will appreciate the addition.
The TRUTH.......only exist in 1 form.
The TRUTH. |
psykosoul said: fantastic read
co-sign "A united state of mind will never be divided
The real definition of unity is 1 People can slam their door, disagree and fight it But how U gonna love the Father but not love the Son? United States of Division" |
Excellent interview!
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Well done! |
(wow, he answered my question Peace
Gustavo Ribas |
YAY!
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That was great |
THANK U ORG AND THANK U ALAN.
I'm a Rainbow Children, Xpectation, News and Musicology lover and I'm startin'to be a 3121 lover. |
WOW!
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Amen!
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Ditto to all the above - truly one of, if not the, best things I've read on the org.
You could be a part-time model, but you'd probably have to keep your normal job |
HOLY CRAP!!! I'm SO GLAD I finally got a chance to read this!!! I've been wanting to all day |
What a great reading this was!
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Amazing... honest, professional and modest. thanks Mr. Leeds and Bananacologne... thank you very much! yes SIR! |
tx alot guys! The final note of Alan hits the spot. Prince isn't the same anymore and it is a shame... |
wasitgood4u said: Ditto to all the above - truly one of, if not the, best things I've read on the org.
It made me realize - I'm an Alan Leeds fan! (and Eric, of course). How wierd, to realize I'm a fan of someone who is, essentially, an executive/manager. But, I guess I'm a fan of him as a "musicologist" - a fan of his writing (liner notes etc.), a fan of his taste (the musicians he works with and mentions), and a fan of his work - I guess over the years I've come to see him as partly BRINGING us the output of these artists. And if you look at the period he was involved with P, and the answer to Q20, it just makes you wonder about the significance of his presence and input... (Oh, and how funny that his views on P's work so closely reflect the mainstream wisdom here at the org, in particular of us oldtimers!) This oldtimer agrees. I feel u all the way wasitgood4u. Thank u Mr Alan Leeds for your true honesty. |
on point about today's music,which is reason why we love those artists that come out of left field. their music is different from mainstream.
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THANK YOU THANK U THANK YOU !!!!! |
This is pretty cool to hear some one from the music b talk about his experiences but my god, almost every damn question had "did Prince" "Is Prince" "Was Prince" "What do you think if Prince" ect. Can you imagine if every day you were hounded with questions about some one else. I do understand what he did and what he does for music folks but gawd! |
Thanks to everyone involved in this! |
What a great X-Mas gift. Thanks!! I loved the inside baseball politics. The singles choices debates could go on forever. Just remember, without Prince's brilliant contrarian musical mind "Kiss" and "When Doves Cry" probably wouldn't have been first singles. Imagine the enormous pressure on Prince's shoulders to live up to his immense gifts and our expectations. There have been no artists in pop history with his complexity. Unfortunately, too much credit is given to business over art. Leeds' final thought on Prince's conservative leanings of late were needed. Especially coming from someone who obviously cares about what Prince's greatest music represents. |
Phill said: This is pretty cool to hear some one from the music b talk about his experiences but my god, almost every damn question had "did Prince" "Is Prince" "Was Prince" "What do you think if Prince" ect. Can you imagine if every day you were hounded with questions about some one else. I do understand what he did and what he does for music folks but gawd!
The website is called Prince.org so it would be very silly for Alan Leeds to think otherwise. The only reason we care to interview him is because of Prince and he knows it and should expect it. |
This was an AWSOME response and I thank Alan to the end of the world for it, cuz he didn't have 2 do it.
One bright day in the middle if the night,
2 dead boys got up to fight. Back 2 back they faced each other, drew their swords and shot each other A deaf Policeman head this noise, he came and shot the 2 dead boys. If you don't believe this lie |
Superb interview. I appreciate Alan's candidness. |
Alan reminds me of a Beta commercial....
One bright day in the middle if the night,
2 dead boys got up to fight. Back 2 back they faced each other, drew their swords and shot each other A deaf Policeman head this noise, he came and shot the 2 dead boys. If you don't believe this lie |
The Truth!
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To be Org interviewed next; Per Neilson.
Love is just like the faucet
It turns off and on Sometimes when you think it's on baby It has turned off and gone Lady Day |
Yeshua4all said: "fam forum"
independent and unofficial Prince fan community site Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. |
Harlepolis said: To be Org interviewed next; Per Neilson.
At least my own wishful thinking That was a sincere read,,,he(Alan) got more common sense than ALL of the people in Paisley Park including shorty himself IMHO I disageree with him on The Rainbow Children tho,,,,I wouldn't change a THING from that album. It is what it is, and I dig it for all its segues and shocking messages, its his(Prince) beliefs, whether we agree with them or not. I agree with you on that. For once, Prince has done a project completely designed by his artistic vision, seemingly not tempered by anything else. |
it´s funny because one of the first things Prince asked Alan was some James Brown stories
Peace
Gustavo Ribas |
Thank you!! Thank you!! Thank you!!
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GustavoRibas said: it´s funny because one of the first things Prince asked Alan was some James Brown stories
It´s great that Alan could tell us some PRINCE stories in a no-gossip and respectful way, that made me admire him even more...now Prince knows how WE feel as fans. Thanks again, Prince.org, for making it possible. I hope there are more in the future. i completely agree. Alan comes across as real and sincere! i absolutely ate up everything he had to write. looking forward to his first book, it sounds like it's going to be one mighty fine read indeed! thank you very much for your open and friendly words mr Alan Leeds and i'll dedicate a separate post to thanking 'Nana for making this happen! thanks a lot man, this is incredible! i was born with the wrong sign, in the wrong house, with the wrong ascendancy |
Alan Leeds is awesome and a good guy. |
Again... great read.
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After reading this i'mma have to reconsider deactivating my account. |
This really is a wonderful Christmas gift!
"After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill...the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill...you stay in wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes." |
Christian Zombie Vampires |
More interesting than the new single |
OK, I could REALLY be friends with this man. For other reasons besides this interview, Alan seems like he would be just cool to hang out with or a great person to come over to play cards with on a Friday night.
I am convinced Beyonce's career would not be where it is, if she had dark skin. |
Thank you so much for this fantastic Christmas gift! It was the best interview I have ever read on this site. Do I dare hope for a part 2? Proud member of the Naked Orgers Club |
That was so very cool of him "Why'd I waste my kisses on you baby?" |
Now that's a Christmas present! Way better than an electric griddle.
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Phill said: This is pretty cool to hear some one from the music b talk about his experiences but my god, almost every damn question had "did Prince" "Is Prince" "Was Prince" "What do you think if Prince" ect. Can you imagine if every day you were hounded with questions about some one else. I do understand what he did and what he does for music folks but gawd!
Oh give me a break - it's PRINCE.Org ya goof |
Yeah, really. I guess we should've asked him what his favourite sandwich is and shit like that instead. The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
"You still wanna take me to prison...just because I won't trade humanity for patriotism." |
Thank you, I really enjoyed reading it |
Prince needs Wendy & Lisa so bad!!!!! God!!! Please reveal to Prince that he needs W&L! |
Dear Mr Leeds,
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Nana, you rock!
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I also believe a "Prince Live" career retrospective could make for a phenomenal box set. He had so many significant gigs professionally recorded that one could easily document every phase of his career with terrific concert material. Packaged with dignity, such a set could go a long way towards, once and for all, cementing Prince's place alongside the musical giants of our lifetime.
THAT´s a GREAT IDEA!!! THANKS FOR THE ARTICLE!!!!! "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." |
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"Think inside out." |
That was grand! The selection of questions was really nice and the answers made a very interesting reading. The time both of you guys spent was really worth it!
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Excellent read, thanks for the |
Thanks to 'Nana and Alan for an engrossing read. This is the man who should be both managing and producing Prince. |
Awesome. Thank you, guys! |
This was awesome! Thanks to the Org and Mr. Leeds for a great holiday gift! ~If you're lookin' for somewhere to go.... |
That was an awesome read, thanks 2 everybody making this happen!! |
Yes, great read |
This was quite simply, amazing
Put yourself on the worldwide org map! www.frappr.com/princeorg |
Thanku so for this! -------------------------------------------------
"When loneliness met love the world turned purple..." |
that was beautiful! really great, looved the story about prince lettin his guard down in the limo. can't wait for the memoirs! thanks alan! Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
...And i'm gonna be groovy in it! |
wow that was a great read. it's not like we need to understand Prince any better but it sure did have great insights from a person who was closer than anyone else on earth.
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I've read this article a few times now (it's THAT good!) and my favorite part is the story Alan tells about Prince playing the new track for him. His mention of Prince singing lyrics right into his ear at certain points reminds me of the video of Kiss, when Prince does exactly the same thing to Wendy.
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Right on...thank you Mr Leeds...and the staff here at the org...RIGHT ON !!!!
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Wowugotit said: Prince needs Wendy & Lisa so bad!!!!! God!!! Please reveal to Prince that he needs W&L!
WTH!!!! Thanks for a great interview!!! |
TheCatWoman said: ...I would have asked him if he had any knowledge of Prince suit with Warner Brothers and if there was any truth to the amount of money P won. I heard it was somewhere around $500,000,000.
Huh? I'm not aware he ever actually filed a civil suit against WB, let alone that he won or negotiated any huge settlement. On what basis would he sue them? He was the one who didn't want to comply with the contract, trashed them publicly, etc....how did they let him down? If a jury had awarded a settlement of that amount, it would have been headline news; even if they'd negotiated a settlement, surely I would have heard something about it. Anyone else got any info on this? My site:
http://www.myspace.com/candace_66 |
fukkin' fantastic! Thanks so much for this Q&A..! the best one yet!
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He's Very Cool to do this interview. A Great read. He's Honest and Nice. He Rocks..... |
Rhondab said: Wowugotit said: Prince needs Wendy & Lisa so bad!!!!! God!!! Please reveal to Prince that he needs W&L!
WTH!!!! |
MuaPetahl said: Awesome read!
thanx for the lovely footage and did i mention the info thanx once againThank You! the12love38 |
Great work. That was nice to read. "Don't hate the Black, don't hate the White. If you get bitten, just hate the bite." |
Great stuff!!! When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading. |
Brilliant! I have vegemite and you don't! |
What a wonderful Xmas gift. OK Prince. This year... if your ready, then Im ready.
RIP MJ and RIP NaNa |
NightGod said: I've read this article a few times now (it's THAT good!)
I know what you mean. I was SO surprised (and then again, not) that Mr Leeds took the time to write out such elaborate little stories for us. I especially liked his admittal he is just a fan, like us, when it comes to most music. My highlights are indeed also the playing music for Mr Leeds, but also the fact that he considers the music he made the last fifteen years a dissappointment, not counting a few highlights (like The Gold Experience) I just looooove his insights into Prince's dealings with WB, art and music. If Prince ever reads this, I hope he will take a few pointers when it comes to having a good connection to his fans. I love the fact Mr Leeds can talk about some of Prince's weak business deals without sounding bitter. |
absolutely bloody brilliant.
Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
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HamsterHuey said: NightGod said: I've read this article a few times now (it's THAT good!)
I know what you mean. I was SO surprised (and then again, not) that Mr Leeds took the time to write out such elaborate little stories for us. I especially liked his admittal he is just a fan, like us, when it comes to most music. My highlights are indeed also the playing music for Mr Leeds, but also the fact that he considers the music he made the last fifteen years a dissappointment, not counting a few highlights (like The Gold Experience) I just looooove his insights into Prince's dealings with WB, art and music. If Prince ever reads this, I hope he will take a few pointers when it comes to having a good connection to his fans. I love the fact Mr Leeds can talk about some of Prince's weak business deals without sounding bitter. ----- I hope some of you are not going ignore some of Alan's comments about WB and P's former mgmt and the fact that Alan gives P some credit for some of the things he is trying to do outside of the traditional music industry. |
| Moderator | What a great interview. Big thank you to Bananacologne for coordinating this, and another big thank you to Alan Leeds for providing some great insight into Prince and his music.
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Thank you so much, Mr. Leeds.
Come here, babe.. yeah... |
This didn't jump out at me the first time I read it, but it's in his answer to Question 15: "For whatever reason, Prince was usually shy about releasing a ballad as the plug side of a single." Well, I guess he changed in that respect! My site:
http://www.myspace.com/candace_66 |
Alan Leeds - LEGEND You know ,if i want to listen to a machine id just go put my clothes in it! |
wow! thanks Banana and Mr. Leeds. that was cool damn it! I had a great quote from george washington but it doesn't fit here. |
now THIS is why we have an internet.
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Thank you Mr. Leeds. That was fantastic. Class act all the way. |
This reminds us that despite all of the unconventional decisions Prince has made & continues to make, he has made some very wise & conventional decisions, such as having Alan Leeds in his career. It's probably no coincidence that he was part of Prince's most successful ten years.
Check this song out at:
http://www.soundclick.com...tmusic.htm |
thanks Alan. Knowing there are people like you in the music biz makes me have faith in it. check out my amazing funk party mixes (loadsa prince!) on http://silic0n.net/ OR
check out the thread at: http://www.prince.org/msg/15/181855 |
I like how Prince travels with the ladies. Love wins. (Seen on bumpersticker) |
andyman91 said: This reminds us that despite all of the unconventional decisions Prince has made & continues to make, he has made some very wise & conventional decisions, such as having Alan Leeds in his career. It's probably no coincidence that he was part of Prince's most successful ten years.
The answer to question 2 was very enlightening, and a bit depressing. I like this, too: "What? And look like you instead of a star? Nobody will pay to see someone who looks like an everyday guy!" We all know nobody's ever been popular who wore jeans! I hope Prince does know who Springsteen is..... M MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" PM "This thread is like a sexual orientation hall of mirrors" |
Gracias a Sr Leeds y Nana; wonderful read, very insightful! Bravo! "be glad that you are free, many a man is not" |
Thank you Alan Leeds for being a pure class act, honest, down to earth, and graciously offering your time and energy to bless the Org. Prince was fortunate to have you.
Ice Creeeeeam!!!! Live like its the style... |
laurarichardson said: I hope some of you are not going ignore some of Alan's comments about WB and P's former mgmt and the fact that Alan gives P some credit for some of the things he is trying to do outside of the traditional music industry.
Sure, but very often Prince's timing is not very ON, as he is also quick to point out. When I compare Prince's online offerings (site-wise) and compare it to Björk's site or the concert-straight-to-the-online-community service Phish had, Prince's site is just a vanity thing. I am sure there are loads of people who have been waiting for scented candles and stuff, but I would love a more direct approach, instead of the 'heavy hinting'-techniques NPGmc members are subjected to. News stating the facts, not beating around the bush. I would love Prince's site handing out teasers as soon as an album is released. I rather prefer the way it used to be; Cat leaking a scribbled note with the tracklist of Lovesexy... |
Mr. Leeds certainly gave well thought out answers. What a gentleman |
nice read , thanks |
HamsterHuey said: If Prince ever reads this, I hope he will take a few pointers when it comes to having a good connection to his fans. I love the fact Mr Leeds can talk about some of Prince's weak business deals without sounding bitter. - Agreed. His comments were real nice and honest, without being bitter. He praised, he criticized, but with respect for the person and musician Prince. Peace
Gustavo Ribas |
This was perhaps one of the best free insights into Prince's musical genius and artistic and business shortfalls. The questions were professionally answered, the selection of questions were outstanding, and conducted with class.
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Thank you Nana and thank you Mr. Leeds Edmonton, AB - |
What I love best about these type of "insider" interviews is the revelation of the human side of the subject.
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andyman91 said: ...I like this, too: "What? And look like you instead of a star? Nobody will pay to see someone who looks like an everyday guy!" We all know nobody's ever been popular who wore jeans!
My site:
http://www.myspace.com/candace_66 |
That's why you're paying big money to see an aftershow in 2002?
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calldapplwondery83 said: That's why you're paying big money to see an aftershow in 2002?
The last thing I want to see Prince do, is to get outside producers. I am SO talking about his studio production now. Live he can still ressurect a stupid tune and make it a jam. Outside producer Rick Rubin did wonders for Johnny Cash and just recently for chewed on and spit out Neil Diamond. As long as people go and do the job of helping Prince deliver ace quality music, I have NO problems with outside producers. Too bad Prince has, hehehe. |
Bfunkthe1 said: Great gift for x-mas! I loved the way Alan broke it down on Prince's output the last 15 years. Agreed with Alan on so many points especially how Prince's "views" have changed since the early days on things such as race, religion, sexuality etc. Kinda sad when you think about it but Prince doesn't seem to be the open-minded all inclusive person he use to be. Just my opinion. I Still have much love though.
Good Morning, I enjoyed reading the Alan Leeds Q & A as he was on point as to the state of Princes music. but he lost me when he stated that Prince's views changed from the early days on things such as: Race, Religion and Sexuality, One would think kmaybe his views change as a result of getting older,I myself find that I no longer agree with certains things like before, is that saying I am not open-minded. For example: I believe that homosexuality is wrong am I closed minded for saying that. HELL TO THE NAW!!! that means I am entilted to my beliefs and if you don't try to change me I won't try to change you. Some of us and even Alan I dare say, forget that we have this thing called FREE WILL, and If Prince decided as he got older that maybe, just maybe some of the things he did back in the day was not appropriate, then so be it,that does not however, mean he is close-minded. Sometimes I wonder about that saying: "The Older you get the Wiser you get? HMMMMM!!!!! |
He is so right on about so many things. I particularly agreed with what he said about some artists not having the perspective to make the best decisions about how to present their material.
Check this song out at:
http://www.soundclick.com...tmusic.htm |
HamsterHuey said: calldapplwondery83 said: That's why you're paying big money to see an aftershow in 2002?
The last thing I want to see Prince do, is to get outside producers. I am SO talking about his studio production now. Live he can still ressurect a stupid tune and make it a jam. Outside producer Rick Rubin did wonders for Johnny Cash and just recently for chewed on and spit out Neil Diamond. As long as people go and do the job of helping Prince deliver ace quality music, I have NO problems with outside producers. Too bad Prince has, hehehe. Prince doesn't need anyone to tweak knobs for him but he needs a Rick Rubin to tell him that his song needs a hook, melody, etc., despite the brilliant playing & arrangement. Check this song out at:
http://www.soundclick.com...tmusic.htm |
Very cool!
The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp. |
Eye absolutely LOVE Alan's story n response 2 ?uestion 18.
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setyrmindphree said: The name change to a symbol was not about contracts, it was about spiritual growth. [Edited 12/27/05 19:06pm] Umm... I think Prince has pretty much set the record straight on this one many times. He changed to the symbol to get out of his record contract..... For example, May 16, 2000 -- press conference "On Dec 31, 1999, my publishing contract with Warner expired, thus emancipating the name I was given before birth, Prince, from all long-term restrictive documents. I will now go back to using my name instead of the symbol that I adopted as a means to free myself from all undesirable relationships." Radio interview: April 2004 (Mojo from Detroit) "The reason I changed my name was to get out of my contract. Once i told the record company that I wasn't going to go by Prince anymore, I gave them an unprouncable symbol to deal with. Now at that point, they really didn't know what to think of me." Come here, babe.. yeah... |
altavista said: setyrmindphree said: The name change to a symbol was not about contracts, it was about spiritual growth. [Edited 12/27/05 19:06pm] Umm... I think Prince has pretty much set the record straight on this one many times. He changed to the symbol to get out of his record contract..... For example, May 16, 2000 -- press conference "On Dec 31, 1999, my publishing contract with Warner expired, thus emancipating the name I was given before birth, Prince, from all long-term restrictive documents. I will now go back to using my name instead of the symbol that I adopted as a means to free myself from all undesirable relationships." Radio interview: April 2004 (Mojo from Detroit) "The reason I changed my name was to get out of my contract. Once i told the record company that I wasn't going to go by Prince anymore, I gave them an unprouncable symbol to deal with. Now at that point, they really didn't know what to think of me." I'm aware his explanations. Just not buying um. Don't think screwing with WB was the sole purpose. Legally, it would make no differnece. He knew that. Just because you change your name it does not provide an escape from a contract. Try that with a bank loan. I beleive he was searching spiritually and distancing himself from his past. Think how interesting it would be if you did not have a name. Wouldn't it change your feelings about yourself. Makes you look inside a little deeper. He questions the meaning of names quite a few times in songs. Just a personal opinion. [Edited 12/28/05 14:17pm] |
altavista said: setyrmindphree said: The name change to a symbol was not about contracts, it was about spiritual growth. [Edited 12/27/05 19:06pm] Umm... I think Prince has pretty much set the record straight on this one many times. He changed to the symbol to get out of his record contract..... For example, May 16, 2000 -- press conference "On Dec 31, 1999, my publishing contract with Warner expired, thus emancipating the name I was given before birth, Prince, from all long-term restrictive documents. I will now go back to using my name instead of the symbol that I adopted as a means to free myself from all undesirable relationships." Radio interview: April 2004 (Mojo from Detroit) "The reason I changed my name was to get out of my contract. Once i told the record company that I wasn't going to go by Prince anymore, I gave them an unprouncable symbol to deal with. Now at that point, they really didn't know what to think of me." To be fair, there are just as many quotes of Prince saying 'his spirit' told him to change his name, and that it was all about a 'spiritual awakening'. I think it was a combination of everything. Even if he couldn't get out of his record contract by using a different 'name', it appears he had the notion he could record albums for Warner's under 'Prince' and independent music under the symbol name, which is what he originally intended for the 'Come' and 'Gold Experience' albums, of course Warner's believed he would keep the stronger material for his own albums. |
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setyrmindphree said: Mr. Leeds nailed the 90's inner turmoil and the late 90's early 2000's spiritual growth. The name change to a symbol was not about contracts, it was about spiritual growth.
Uh, the name change to a symbol was ALL about contracts, nothing spiritual. Prince himself (when he changed his name back to Prince) even admitted that he only changed it so he record and release all the music he wanted to under a different name for contractual reasons. |
altavista said: setyrmindphree said: The name change to a symbol was not about contracts, it was about spiritual growth. [Edited 12/27/05 19:06pm] Umm... I think Prince has pretty much set the record straight on this one many times. He changed to the symbol to get out of his record contract..... For example, May 16, 2000 -- press conference "On Dec 31, 1999, my publishing contract with Warner expired, thus emancipating the name I was given before birth, Prince, from all long-term restrictive documents. I will now go back to using my name instead of the symbol that I adopted as a means to free myself from all undesirable relationships." Radio interview: April 2004 (Mojo from Detroit) "The reason I changed my name was to get out of my contract. Once i told the record company that I wasn't going to go by Prince anymore, I gave them an unprouncable symbol to deal with. Now at that point, they really didn't know what to think of me." LOL! I should've kept on reading this thread because this was my point exactly!! And, why would someone choose to not believe this after he's admitted that his first take, of it being spiritual, on it was wrong/a lie? If the person himself admits it was baloney, why try to hang on to a different, false excuse (and yes, this is directed towards setyrmindphree)? |
alexnvrmnd said: altavista said: Umm... I think Prince has pretty much set the record straight on this one many times. He changed to the symbol to get out of his record contract..... For example, May 16, 2000 -- press conference "On Dec 31, 1999, my publishing contract with Warner expired, thus emancipating the name I was given before birth, Prince, from all long-term restrictive documents. I will now go back to using my name instead of the symbol that I adopted as a means to free myself from all undesirable relationships." Radio interview: April 2004 (Mojo from Detroit) "The reason I changed my name was to get out of my contract. Once i told the record company that I wasn't going to go by Prince anymore, I gave them an unprouncable symbol to deal with. Now at that point, they really didn't know what to think of me." LOL! I should've kept on reading this thread because this was my point exactly!! And, why would someone choose to not believe this after he's admitted that his first take, of it being spiritual, on it was wrong/a lie? If the person himself admits it was baloney, why try to hang on to a different, false excuse (and yes, this is directed towards setyrmindphree)? Where did he "admit" that his first take of it being spiritual was wrong or a lie. I'm actually not challenging you, I would be interested in reading or listening to what he said. Because I don't know, and would like to, did the WB conflict start before or after the name change? Wasn't the name change in '93 sometime? |
metalorange said: altavista said: Umm... I think Prince has pretty much set the record straight on this one many times. He changed to the symbol to get out of his record contract..... For example, May 16, 2000 -- press conference "On Dec 31, 1999, my publishing contract with Warner expired, thus emancipating the name I was given before birth, Prince, from all long-term restrictive documents. I will now go back to using my name instead of the symbol that I adopted as a means to free myself from all undesirable relationships." Radio interview: April 2004 (Mojo from Detroit) "The reason I changed my name was to get out of my contract. Once i told the record company that I wasn't going to go by Prince anymore, I gave them an unprouncable symbol to deal with. Now at that point, they really didn't know what to think of me." To be fair, there are just as many quotes of Prince saying 'his spirit' told him to change his name, and that it was all about a 'spiritual awakening'. I think it was a combination of everything. Even if he couldn't get out of his record contract by using a different 'name', it appears he had the notion he could record albums for Warner's under 'Prince' and independent music under the symbol name, which is what he originally intended for the 'Come' and 'Gold Experience' albums, of course Warner's believed he would keep the stronger material for his own albums. I agree, that's why I don't think it was all about business. If anybody does have a quote of him dismissing the spiritual importance please post |
As I read the second paragraph in Question #20, I keep thinking...you mean to tell me that no-one was around to tell Prince that his music was wack in the 90s. He didn't have any friends to tell him to be himself and let the music flow.
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wonder505 said: As I read the second paragraph in Question #20, I keep thinking...you mean to tell me that no-one was around to tell Prince that his music was wack in the 90s. He didn't have any friends to tell him to be himself and let the music flow.
I question this because this interview gives the impression that Prince was confused at times and didn't know which direction to take. Where were his friends/collegeus...OR....is Prince the type of person who just doesn't listen and takes advice well. It's not an interview, it's a Question & Answer session - people would do well to remember that distinction before reading too much into things or taking them out of context. Just a thought. |
I agree wholeheartedly about the comments on Prince and hip-hop.
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eugnj420 said: I was sad to see Prince inject rap into his early 90's work.
Even back then, it was clear that Prince was so above it, and not very good at it. So above it? P digs the hip-hop art form. And he had his own style. Days Of Wild n e 1? love |
The 'act' of discarding the PRINCE name inevitably gave rise 2 spiritual growth. During those tumultuous years, the name 'change' can b viewed of as 1 of the pivotol factors that P held on 2, n that pulled him thru. Eye suspect he let go of the notion ONLY when he no longer felt he needed it's support.
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wonder505 said: As I read the second paragraph in Question #20, I keep thinking...you mean to tell me that no-one was around to tell Prince that his music was wack in the 90s. He didn't have any friends to tell him to be himself and let the music flow.
I question this because this interview gives the impression that Prince was confused at times and didn't know which direction to take. Where were his friends/collegeus...OR....is Prince the type of person who just doesn't listen and takes advice well. that last part other people from that time period (i'm thinking 1991-1993) tried to tell him but.. he didn't listen |
Wowugotit said: Prince needs Wendy & Lisa so bad!!!!! God!!! Please reveal to Prince that he needs W&L![/b]
no he doesnt. anywoo i think that it is a great interview of alan leeds. so who's next matt fink or andre? what about brownmark? [Edited 12/28/05 19:51pm] |
Alan Leeds gets it. Prince lost HIS sound in the 90's by trying to incorporate what others were doing. When Emanicaption came out, a fellow Prince fan and keyboard player at that time for La Bouche told me he recognized several of the loops on that cd from libraries. I notice them everytime I played that cd after that.
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MarcelJ said: Alan Leeds gets it. Prince lost HIS sound in the 90's by trying to incorporate what others were doing. When Emanicaption came out, a fellow Prince fan and keyboard player at that time for La Bouche told me he recognized several of the loops on that cd from libraries. I notice them everytime I played that cd after that.
I also agree that Prince seems to have refound his own sound the past three years and I'm hopeful we'll be seeing/hearing some good/great things from him again soon. I can't completely agree with that. Prince of the 80's incorporated what others had done before him - funk, rock, soul, etc James Brown, Jimi Hendrix, Family Stone, etc - into his music. Trying to incorporate sounds of the 90's was the same process. There aren't many 'true' rap songs by Prince, he mostly just incorporated elements into his style - a brave experiment, and something not many artists would even attempt. Whether he pulled it off or not is mostly subjective. I loved the 80s sound, but I also loved the completely different sound of the 90s. |
setyrmindphree said: alexnvrmnd said: LOL! I should've kept on reading this thread because this was my point exactly!! And, why would someone choose to not believe this after he's admitted that his first take, of it being spiritual, on it was wrong/a lie? If the person himself admits it was baloney, why try to hang on to a different, false excuse (and yes, this is directed towards setyrmindphree)? Where did he "admit" that his first take of it being spiritual was wrong or a lie. I'm actually not challenging you, I would be interested in reading or listening to what he said. Because I don't know, and would like to, did the WB conflict start before or after the name change? Wasn't the name change in '93 sometime? Well, he admitted it by simply saying his reason for changing his name was for business or contracual reasons. That's pretty much saying "It wasn't what I said it was before" because before, all he said was that his reason for doing it was for something spiritual and some Higher Power told him what his name "really was". |
alexnvrmind, do u disagree that the 'act' of discarding the PRINCE name inevitably gave rise 2 spiritual growth?
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alexnvrmnd said: setyrmindphree said: Where did he "admit" that his first take of it being spiritual was wrong or a lie. I'm actually not challenging you, I would be interested in reading or listening to what he said. Because I don't know, and would like to, did the WB conflict start before or after the name change? Wasn't the name change in '93 sometime? Well, he admitted it by simply saying his reason for changing his name was for business or contracual reasons. That's pretty much saying "It wasn't what I said it was before" because before, all he said was that his reason for doing it was for something spiritual and some Higher Power told him what his name "really was". You could also argue that initially he was telling the truth, but came up with a more practical explanation later when it suited him. After all, if it was purely business reasons, why did he continue to use the symbol name for Emancipation, Crystal Ball and Rave which were all recorded when his contract for Warner's had been completed? On Rave he announced that 'Prince' was the producer - as though he was easing himself back into using the name.* *After reading the Vault, it appears he still had a publishing deal with Warner Chappell Music (which I gather is slightly different to Warner's proper) up until the end of 1999, which is why he kept using the symbol name. Prince has registered a lot of unreleased songs, perhaps those he registed while under Warner Chappell are the vault items he can't release? You can look at it that he had finally realised his symbol name was a hindrance, alienating his audience, and so came up with a bunch of digestable practical business reasons why he had started the symbol name in an attempt to get back to using the more marketable and seriously-taken name 'Prince' while still maintaining some dignity. You could also argue that he changed his name to try and get out of his record contract, but that his spirit picked the ACTUAL name to use. That way, both sides of the statements are valid. [Edited 12/29/05 11:33am] |
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MarcelJ said: Alan Leeds gets it. Prince lost HIS sound in the 90's by trying to incorporate what others were doing. When Emanicaption came out, a fellow Prince fan and keyboard player at that time for La Bouche told me he recognized several of the loops on that cd from libraries. I notice them everytime I played that cd after that.
I also agree that Prince seems to have refound his own sound the past three years and I'm hopeful we'll be seeing/hearing some good/great things from him again soon. Those loops that you are speaking about were all probably related to the tracks that Kirky J was involved in. -Mg The TRUTH.......only exist in 1 form.
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dewalliz said: Wowugotit said: Prince needs Wendy & Lisa so bad!!!!! God!!! Please reveal to Prince that he needs W&L![/b]
no he doesnt. anywoo i think that it is a great interview of alan leeds. so who's next matt fink or andre? what about brownmark? [Edited 12/28/05 19:51pm] Oh yes, Prince Wendy & lisa need each other bad, thoser 3 were born to compliment each orther's music!! GREAT INTERVIEW! Please, bring Susan ROGERS next! |
I sure learnt a lot today. Thanks BC! Tupac "Makaveli" Shakur (RIP 1971-1996) & Michael Jackson (RIP 1958-2009)
2 men that had their lives taken away the moment they were speaking out AND rebelling against the dark side of the music industry once too often. |
Good read. One man amounts to a great deal more than another man's opinion of him. "...and you believed that story? You believed that?" The Godfather Part II |
baXtos said: ... Please, bring Susan ROGERS next!
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baXtos said: dewalliz said: no he doesnt. anywoo i think that it is a great interview of alan leeds. so who's next matt fink or andre? what about brownmark? [Edited 12/28/05 19:51pm] Oh yes, Prince Wendy & lisa need each other bad, thoser 3 were born to compliment each orther's music!! GREAT INTERVIEW! Please, bring Susan ROGERS next! I think not!!! Also he needs to bring back Dr. Fink and get Sheila E in the mix. |
dewalliz said: ... When Wendy came along, her and Lisa ruined Prince's records with their weird psychedelic influence. Thank goodness Prince left that alone after he fired them....
But what about Parade? Do you hear a psychedelic influence on there? I don't think W&L should be held accountable for the sound of ATWIAD, that was Prince's idea. My site:
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CandaceS said: dewalliz said: ... When Wendy came along, her and Lisa ruined Prince's records with their weird psychedelic influence. Thank goodness Prince left that alone after he fired them....
But what about Parade? Do you hear a psychedelic influence on there? I don't think W&L should be held accountable for the sound of ATWIAD, that was Prince's idea. Are you deaf? Anyway back to the subject I think that Alan was very informative and detail oriented with the interview. I hope the org going to do more interviews from Prince's former associates. |
While I can understand the thought behind "Bring Wendy and Lisa back" or "Bring (insert random former bandmember here) back", even "Bring the Linn drum and Oberheims back", I think it may be missing the point.
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NightGod said: While I can understand the thought behind "Bring Wendy and Lisa back" or "Bring (insert random former bandmember here) back", even "Bring the Linn drum and Oberheims back", I think it may be missing the point.
I'll go on record to say that my favorite "Prince era" did involve collaborations with some amazing people, but life isn't about going back to repeat the same old stuff, is it? Wendy and Lisa have matured and (to me at least) always been great songwriters and musicians, but I can't help but think that if Prince, Wendy and Lisa locked themselves away and recorded a new album, that most of those wishing for it would be disappointed. Why? They have all grown older and lead different lives than they did in the 80's. The end result, as beautiful and breathtaking as it would be, would not be Purple Rain part deux. Here's my idea of a more sensible wish for the future of Prince. I'd like to see Prince to collaborate with some talented new people. I'd like to hear him pushed in new directions, not pushed back to where he was 20 years ago. I agreed. Also I don't expecting Prince to repeat himself but damn he needs to bring that hardcore funk and rock that I missed but no I dont want a rehash since this is a different era. He can still have the sound that I missed in his new album but with new flavor though. |
Just so everybody is in the loop here, constructive criticism is welcomed on this thread, as are thoughts on Alan and his answers. However...ANY sign of veering too far off track, and I will ensure we get back on it - swiftly.
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He's collaborating with Clare Fischer again so maybe there's more truth to these W&L rumours than meets the eye. Put yourself on the worldwide org map! www.frappr.com/princeorg |
I agree with someone here who wrote that the 90's music was overrall pretty good--actually, the shit was great, at times. The slog, musically, has more to do with Prince's religious ideals, where risk is not part of the plan. His lyrics have to please the Watchtower masters, and his sound has to be pleasing to his new ideas about a more fascist and controlling God. Hardcore religious people just don't make good music. The religion stunts growth in the psyche--democracy is what brings out the fire and artistic want in artists. Prince is fried, in that respect.
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Many thanks to Mr. Leeds and 'nana for taking the time to put this together. It is a great read!
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JimmyNothing said: He's collaborating with Clare Fischer again so maybe there's more truth to these W&L rumours than meets the eye.
But he never stopped working with Clare Fisher. |
2freaky4church1 said: He is calculating, at this very moment, in becoming a by the numbers pop artist, devoid of any real artistry. It is all about the surface now--so we all better get used to it.
That's your view of it. None of us is are Prince's mind, and we don't even know any details of what's to come yet. |
thank you to Alan and all the orgers involved in this !!!
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eugnj420 said: I agree wholeheartedly about the comments on Prince and hip-hop.
There are very few good Prince "rap" tunes ("18 and over" sticks out in my mind as the only really good one.) I was sad to see Prince inject rap into his early 90's work. Even back then, it was clear that Prince was so above it, and not very good at it. I mean, come on man, you're a musical genuis. If I want guys who couldn't write an original melody or play an instrument to save their lives (excluding The Roots here), I'll turn to rap. But usually, I don't. First I have to say that Mr. Leeds seemed really sincere in his comments; I agree for the most part with his statements....Also, I agree that Prince had no business fucking with hip-hop, But the way I'm reading your post eugnj420, is that you are basically saying that hip-hop artists are talentless hacks... Prince wasn't above incorporating hip-hop because hip hop artists lacked artistic merit...During the early '90s D&P era, hip-hop was truly a beast...I love the homie Prince, but, at that point Nas, Dr. Dre, A Tribe Called Quest, De La Soul, Wu Tang Clan, Notorious BIG, Black Moon, and Mobb Deep were all releasing some of the genre's most influential and groundbreaking albums and collectively was making the same cultural impact P, MJ, and Madonna made in the '80s...Yeah, Prince was above trying to jump on the bandwagon; However, what it really comes down to is Prince lacked a fundamental respect and understanding of hip-hop music and culture as evident by his recruitment of Tony M. That's the real truth, not that fact that a Nas couldn't play guitar, bass, drums, or keyboard... |
thank you very much for putting this interview together! it was a great read! |
I guess this puts to rest the idea that DMSR and POSSESSED were accurate. Now maybe I can get some rest! lol
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this was wonderful....thanks to all involved in putting it together. |
I think fans of hiphop/rap can be far too precious about the genre of music. There's far too much concern about the artist being 'real' and from the street. Even within the field, acts have a go at each other for not being 'real' enough; it seems like you are not taken seriously unless you have been shot in a drive-by!
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metalorange said: somebody must have liked his hiphop imitative work, because Diamonds & Pearls was one of his biggest selling albums.
word . "You don't frighten us, English pig dogs. Go and boil your bottoms, sons of a silly person." |
Actually Irresistable Bitch and Heaven Must Be Near are arguably hip hop cuts although that prolly wasnt his intention. Funky as a mofo too. "...and you believed that story? You believed that?" The Godfather Part II |
Wonderful interview! |
I finally had a chance to sit and read this (on my first day back at work - lol), and it is a wonderful read! Thanks Alan and everyone who wrote such great questions. |
thanks to Mr. Leeds for taking the time to respond! very interesting |
This was the best read. I thoroughly appreciated the in-depth answers, for a better insight to how Prince's musicmanship had evolved during the first 15 years. I can only hope that Prince can pull out some funk again and wax it. |
Alan makes a couple references to Prince's 'disturbing lyrics'. Do you know what he is refering to, and why?
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KingOfNYC said: Alan makes a couple references to Prince's 'disturbing lyrics'. Do you know what he is refering to, and why?
"Personally, I find it discouraging that Prince's proselytizing in recent years even hints at religious, racial or sexual prejudices that he never represented back in the day" and more importantly: "When the music did seem to step up a notch, such as on the RAINBOW CHILDREN album, it was compromised by a few curiously disturbing lyrics" I assume he would be referring to such as 1+1+1=3 whose lyrics firmly place women on a lower level than men, and Family Name, which some have implied has digs at Jewish names. |
metalorange said: Prince was actually quite successful - somebody must have liked his hiphop imitative work, because Diamonds & Pearls was one of his biggest selling albums.
very true , and I love the D & P album , though I wonder how many people bought it on the basis of wanting to hear hip hop , after all most of the single releases weren't that genre at all , Gett Off yes , Cream , the title track , Money Don't Matter and Thunder havent got a trace of hip hop on them , and in fact I think the whole pigeon-holing of Diamonds and Pearls as "Prince doing hip hop " does the variety of the album a huge injustice , how many tracks on there are really hip hop , 4 maybe at a push , the rest of the album ( in my opinion the best stuff on the album ) is a million miles from it . Great Q & A by the way , and my question was chosen too Check out Chocadelica , updated with Lotusflow3r and MPLSound album lyrics April 2nd 2009 :
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Great read! Thank U Alan 4 sharing your insights and experiences with us. Best of luck in the future and I can't wait 4 that D'Angelo joint 2 drop someday. We need 2 come 2gether, come 2gether as ONE |
what a great read...what a cool cat...
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wow. this article took me back 2 the genisis of the purple path it's been an amazing road with more 2 come thanks alan 4 helping 2 nurture and guide a revolution of music and mind |
since i'm not over here much, i just saw this, wow very insightful. i might print this out for my dad who loves to collect vinyl. its nice to hear more about what prince is like. |
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metalorange said: KingOfNYC said: Alan makes a couple references to Prince's 'disturbing lyrics'. Do you know what he is refering to, and why?
"Personally, I find it discouraging that Prince's proselytizing in recent years even hints at religious, racial or sexual prejudices that he never represented back in the day" and more importantly: "When the music did seem to step up a notch, such as on the RAINBOW CHILDREN album, it was compromised by a few curiously disturbing lyrics" I assume he would be referring to such as 1+1+1=3 whose lyrics firmly place women on a lower level than men, and Family Name, which some have implied has digs at Jewish names. I've always interpreted Family Name as a view on discrimination not by race, but by name. That's what's really going on at least in Holland, where I live. It's devastating for arabs and unfairly benefits the aristocracy. And 1+1+1=3 is about the falseness of the trinity, as it is proclaimed by the Catholic church, as far as I see it. Still I do agree that there is a feeling of intolerance and prejudice in Prince's later music but for sleep's sake I'm not going to give examples! |
This is pretty awesome guys thanks for posting this.
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2freaky4church1 said: I agree with someone here who wrote that the 90's music was overrall pretty good--actually, the shit was great, at times. The slog, musically, has more to do with Prince's religious ideals, where risk is not part of the plan. His lyrics have to please the Watchtower masters, and his sound has to be pleasing to his new ideas about a more fascist and controlling God. Hardcore religious people just don't make good music. The religion stunts growth in the psyche--democracy is what brings out the fire and artistic want in artists. Prince is fried, in that respect.
Leeds pretty much summed up my thoughts about Prince. He is a man or honor and truth, and he seems to still really care about Prince. The Church only cares about controlling Prince's mind and money. Real friends know when to pull the cold water in the face bit. Prince is afraid of having real friends. He looks in the mirror and that man staring back, doesn't smile. He is calculating, at this very moment, in becoming a by the numbers pop artist, devoid of any real artistry. It is all about the surface now--so we all better get used to it. 1. I think we should resprect Prince at least so much not to call the God he believes in a "fascist". 2. "Hardcore religious people don't make good music." - Have you ever heard of someone called Johann Sebastian Bach??? And, back on topic, thanks 'Nana for the great Q&A! ![]() |
That was amazing. It just doesn't get much better than that.
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