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Thread started 04/11/05 10:45pm

meow85

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Jack U Off

The lyrics to this song are..odd, to say the least. Lil dude speaks of jacking off a girl. confused

I've heard it said that when Prince wrote the song, he didn't really know what the term "jack you off" actually referred to. I find this damn hard to believe.

Controversy was released in 1981. That means Prince was 23 years old at the time. How does anyone get to be that age and not understand such common, well-known slang? Either he wrote the song when he was 12, or he's some sort of social retard.


Any input?
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Reply #1 posted 04/11/05 10:47pm

Krystal666

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Ummm I'm sure he knew what it ment. What I don't think he understood is that Jacking someone off usually refers to masterbating a man. Not too many people back then used that term to refer to masterbating a woman. I don't think Prince was aware of how other people would percive it.
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Reply #2 posted 04/11/05 10:54pm

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Krystal666 said:

Ummm I'm sure he knew what it ment. What I don't think he understood is that Jacking someone off usually refers to masterbating a man. Not too many people back then used that term to refer to masterbating a woman. I don't think Prince was aware of how other people would percive it.

That was kinda my point. I don't believe that he didn't know that no one uses that term to refer to pleasuring a woman though. I have no idea why he would've used the term regardless. (well, there's that whole maybeGay thing, but I'm not getting into that as it's a damn touchy subject around here...)







afterthought: NO, I'm not saying Prince is gay. I really shouldn't have to have a disclaimer for this, but certain Orgers have shown they can't behave like adults when this topic comes up....
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Reply #3 posted 04/11/05 11:28pm

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Basses Mark Brown said although he knew Prince to be straight, "When you talk about street lingo, where I come from, guys don't jack girls off," Brown noted. "Prince didn't understand that-Prince was in his own world."

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What good is time if u take up everyday 2 complain?
What misfortune left ur heart so broken that u only say words intended 2 belittle or dismay?
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Reply #4 posted 04/12/05 12:00am

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I think Prince damn well knew what "Jack U Off" meant but chose to use that choice of words to stir up mystery and controversy. The album was even called "Controversy".
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Reply #5 posted 04/12/05 12:02am

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vainandy said:

I think Prince damn well knew what "Jack U Off" meant but chose to use that choice of words to stir up mystery and controversy. The album was even called "Controversy".


I always thought the same thing.

"Am I black or white? Am I straight or gay?"

This was the era where Prince loved fucking with the media and confusing ppl with his image.
The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.

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Reply #6 posted 04/12/05 12:14am

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rudeboynpg said:

[b]Basses Mark Brown said although he knew Prince to be straight, "When you talk about street lingo, where I come from, guys don't jack girls off," Brown noted. "Prince didn't understand that-Prince was in his own world."

See, I don't believe that. I'm more inclined to follow the "he wanted to confuse people and create controversy" line of thought.


'Cuz I just can't believe a 23 year old honestly wouldn't have heave undertsood what it meant to jack someone off. smile
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Reply #7 posted 04/12/05 12:54am

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vainandy said:

I think Prince damn well knew what "Jack U Off" meant but chose to use that choice of words to stir up mystery and controversy. The album was even called "Controversy".


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The rest of the lyrics make sure we know he's with a woman, but taking just taking the title out of context of the rest of the lyrics make it more ambiguous.
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Reply #8 posted 04/12/05 1:34am

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meow85 said:

rudeboynpg said:

Bassest Mark Brown said although he knew Prince to be straight, "When you talk about street lingo, where I come from, guys don't jack girls off," Brown noted. "Prince didn't understand that-Prince was in his own world."

See, I don't believe that.



[b]That's what Mark Brown said in Dance Music Sex Romance by Per Nilsen


and Possessed by Alex Hahn. Mark Brown would know. Mark Brown knows Prince.
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Reply #9 posted 04/12/05 1:59am

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well the song would make more sense if it was called finger bang. But it just doesnt have the same ring. lol lol lol

Never liked this song tho the music is too corny.
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Reply #10 posted 04/12/05 2:01am

meow85

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Soulchild82 said:

well the song would make more sense if it was called finger bang. But it just doesnt have the same ring. lol lol lol

Never liked this song tho the music is too corny.

That's exactly why I like it. It's got somewhat naughty (if confused) lyrics, set to something it sounds like P. stole from The Muppet Show.

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Reply #11 posted 04/12/05 2:07am

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meow85 said:

Soulchild82 said:

well the song would make more sense if it was called finger bang. But it just doesnt have the same ring. lol lol lol

Never liked this song tho the music is too corny.

That's exactly why I like it. It's got somewhat naughty (if confused) lyrics, set to something it sounds like P. stole from The Muppet Show.

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yeah its like the retarted cousin of Delirious
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Reply #12 posted 04/12/05 2:11am

DavidEye

when 'Controversy' came out in 1981,I didn't even know what "jack u off" meant boxed


but hey,I was only 11 years old lol
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Reply #13 posted 04/12/05 2:35am

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DavidEye said:

when 'Controversy' came out in 1981,I didn't even know what "jack u off" meant boxed


but hey,I was only 11 years old lol


Me neither. I was 13 and only knew the term "beat your meat". I remember my mother used to like the song "Controversy" and went thumbing through my records for me to make her a tape of different songs. When I came home, she had the album in her hand and was mad as hell. I didn't know what she was mad about because I didn't know what it meant. lol
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Reply #14 posted 04/12/05 4:28am

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Soulchild82 said:

well the song would make more sense if it was called finger bang. But it just doesnt have the same ring. lol lol lol




lol
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Reply #15 posted 04/12/05 5:37am

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at any friggin rate, the song's still hot. it's even hotter live (houston '81, anybody?).
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Reply #16 posted 04/12/05 5:46am

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

at any friggin rate, the song's still hot. it's even hotter live (houston '81, anybody?).


YES! Houston, December 9 1981, I got that concert (& it aint for sale, so don't anyone ask).
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Reply #17 posted 04/12/05 5:55am

jayaredee

I don't care what people say
I luve that song

I even sing it in the shower confused
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Reply #18 posted 04/12/05 5:56am

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any song about massterbatein is cool in my book oh as long as it doesnt involve animals

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eye no u can feel me eye no u can dance, but wot do u know about the greatest romance?
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Reply #19 posted 04/12/05 5:58am

MidnightFunk

the entire album was made 2 stir it's title.....

and if u all haven't figured it out yet....

Prince got a side 2 him that just aint like other folks....
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Reply #20 posted 04/12/05 7:53am

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Soulchild82 said:

well the song would make more sense if it was called finger bang. But it just doesnt have the same ring. lol lol lol

Never liked this song tho the music is too corny.


But then Eric Cartman and the Southpark kids would need to sue his ass for ripping off their boy band name!

cartman
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Reply #21 posted 04/12/05 7:55am

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Averett said:

Soulchild82 said:

well the song would make more sense if it was called finger bang. But it just doesnt have the same ring. lol lol lol

Never liked this song tho the music is too corny.


But then Eric Cartman and the Southpark kids would need to sue his ass for ripping off their boy band name!

cartman

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Reply #22 posted 04/12/05 8:57am

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Soulchild82 said:

well the song would make more sense if it was called finger bang. But it just doesnt have the same ring.


falloff

Anyway, everybody's right. Prince was being coy, Prince lives in his own fucking world, AND you can jack a girl off. Hell, I jack off all the time.

'Kay?
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Reply #23 posted 04/12/05 10:04am

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FunkMistress said:

Soulchild82 said:

well the song would make more sense if it was called finger bang. But it just doesnt have the same ring.


falloff

Anyway, everybody's right. Prince was being coy, Prince lives in his own fucking world, AND you can jack a girl off. Hell, I jack off all the time.

'Kay?

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Reply #24 posted 04/12/05 12:53pm

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FunkMistress said:

Soulchild82 said:

well the song would make more sense if it was called finger bang. But it just doesnt have the same ring.


falloff

Anyway, everybody's right. Prince was being coy, Prince lives in his own fucking world, AND you can jack a girl off. Hell, I jack off all the time.

'Kay?

Hmmm, can I watch?
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Reply #25 posted 04/12/05 12:59pm

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blackguitaristz said:

FunkMistress said:



falloff

Anyway, everybody's right. Prince was being coy, Prince lives in his own fucking world, AND you can jack a girl off. Hell, I jack off all the time.

'Kay?

Hmmm, can I watch?

Look ya'll. P knew what people would think. For some odd ass reason, P wanted folks to think he was saying "I'll jack u off" to some dude, cuz he knew people would link that to male self- satisfaction. Which if P is saying it, then there's the gay overtone, which P also used in Controversy.
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Reply #26 posted 04/12/05 1:06pm

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I always thought it was like some cute response to a girl if she was like
"Baby let me jack you off"

"No, I'd rather jack you off"

"ehm, uh okay!"
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Reply #27 posted 04/12/05 1:46pm

Rockability

HAHA. Prince knew that JAck u Off was a male term and that is why he got off using it to describe giving a woman an orgasm. He does the same shit with "Head." He says, "I'll give u head." He wasn't talking bout a guy. But, Prince wanted the audience to think it.
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Reply #28 posted 04/12/05 6:21pm

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Well actually I don't necessarily think Prince wanted people to be all that confuseing if he was talking about a boy or a girl he was doing sexual things to. In Head he clearly is having back and forth banter with Lisa and In Jack you off he clearly says "girl..". Honestly I just think he say the stupidity of reserving slang words like head and jacking off as strictly for males. We live in such a male dominated society that sexual slang is/was only reserved for men after all they are the only ones where it is acceptable to be sexual and like sex right rolleyes If you are a woman and enjoy head or jacking off you are somehwow less respected...after all that is just not normal for a woman to enjoy those things :sarcasm; I just think Prince saw the silliness in just reserving sexual slang for men when women like oral sex just as much as men and he knew you can masterbate a woman too...so he was like "well not only can a man be masterbated but a woman can to so why can't jack you off just be a genral term?? Fuck it I'm gonna use it to mean masterbating a woman. See this is what I love about Prince....saying to hell with societies rules that are sexist, homophoic and just plain segregating and doing whatever he wanted...all a while thinking about pleasing women. I LOVE that man!!!!! biggrin
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Reply #29 posted 04/12/05 6:25pm

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FunkMistress said:

Soulchild82 said:

well the song would make more sense if it was called finger bang. But it just doesnt have the same ring.


falloff

Anyway, everybody's right. Prince was being coy, Prince lives in his own fucking world, AND you can jack a girl off. Hell, I jack off all the time.

'Kay?
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