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Reply #30 posted 02/16/05 4:08pm

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thesexofit said:

First he praises Jacko, now Prince.....could be genuine I guess.

Didn't prince beat him in a award catorgory at the grammies? Sour grapes anyone?


Usher "praises" whoever is "in" at the moment neutral
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Reply #31 posted 02/16/05 4:18pm

murph

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How very right you are.....my apologies. But what I meant by that was how Usher was just getting all the fame and fortne while Prince was kinda pushed off to the side a little bit, know what I mean? That's all




As an old school Prince fan (not fam), I have to say can we cease with all the Usher bashing...It's getting a little tired...The kid is what's happening in 2005...Stop comparing the two...They have nothing to do with each other...damn...The reason why he is getting the fame is because he's young and current...Welcome to the music business...Usher is not for us, guys...He's for the kids that are buying records today...There's nothing wrong with new artists getting love...Prince got his shine for damn near 25 years straight...Let some other artists have some fun...
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Reply #32 posted 02/16/05 4:43pm

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murph said:

Tish4 said:

How very right you are.....my apologies. But what I meant by that was how Usher was just getting all the fame and fortne while Prince was kinda pushed off to the side a little bit, know what I mean? That's all




As an old school Prince fan (not fam), I have to say can we cease with all the Usher bashing...It's getting a little tired...The kid is what's happening in 2005...Stop comparing the two...They have nothing to do with each other...damn...The reason why he is getting the fame is because he's young and current...Welcome to the music business...Usher is not for us, guys...He's for the kids that are buying records today...There's nothing wrong with new artists getting love...Prince got his shine for damn near 25 years straight...Let some other artists have some fun...
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Being new and 'not for us' is not an excuse to think you are the saviour of R&B. The reason so many mediocre acts get away with it is because we keep excusing it. I'm just glad the Grammy voters had enough damn sense not to give Yeah rolleyes a bunch of Grammys.
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Reply #33 posted 02/16/05 4:49pm

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I agree with Murph. Usher is what the "kids nowadays" listen to. Oh well. I do wish that celebraties would quit talking about how wonderful and hot Usher is. That is sickening. Ellen just went on and on talking about him on her show today, that surprised her guests with him actuall being on her show for about five minutes.

I was watching the VH1 Driven episode with Usher on it today, and they did say that Usher grew up listening to artists like Michael Jackson, Prince and Bobby Brown.
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Reply #34 posted 02/16/05 5:15pm

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dustysgirl said:

I agree with Murph. Usher is what the "kids nowadays" listen to. Oh well. I do wish that celebraties would quit talking about how wonderful and hot Usher is. That is sickening. Ellen just went on and on talking about him on her show today, that surprised her guests with him actuall being on her show for about five minutes.

I was watching the VH1 Driven episode with Usher on it today, and they did say that Usher grew up listening to artists like Michael Jackson, Prince and Bobby Brown.


Well I'm just barely not a kid (as are many others here), but I'm not
throwin my pannies at Usher.
He's too cocky and his music just doesnt appeal to me.

I'll admit I liked a few of his songs off that older CD (?title)
but that was then and this is now cool
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Reply #35 posted 02/16/05 5:20pm

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thekidsgirl said:

dustysgirl said:

I agree with Murph. Usher is what the "kids nowadays" listen to. Oh well. I do wish that celebraties would quit talking about how wonderful and hot Usher is. That is sickening. Ellen just went on and on talking about him on her show today, that surprised her guests with him actuall being on her show for about five minutes.

I was watching the VH1 Driven episode with Usher on it today, and they did say that Usher grew up listening to artists like Michael Jackson, Prince and Bobby Brown.


Well I'm just barely not a kid (as are many others here), but I'm not
throwin my pannies at Usher.
He's too cocky and his music just doesnt appeal to me.

I'll admit I liked a few of his songs off that older CD (?title)
but that was then and this is now cool
nod 8701 and My Way were much better albums.
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Reply #36 posted 02/16/05 6:41pm

murph

Well I'm just barely not a kid (as are many others here), but I'm not
throwin my pannies at Usher.
He's too cocky and his music just doesnt appeal to me.

I'll admit I liked a few of his songs off that older CD (?title)
but that was then and this is now


You act like the shit on the kid's last album was trash...The stuff he did with the Neptunes was cutting edge R&B that was better than average (You Don't Have To Call was one of the better songs that year)...You don't have to say you don't like Usher to impress the older Prince fans on this site...You should be able to like whoever you want...This constant comparisons to Prince is laughable...The artists the kid should be compared with are his peers (Justine Timberlake and the like). Prince is from a different era...

Like most popular albums Confessions is not even the young boy's best shit...I must admit that the reason why I know these things is because I'm a music journalist..so it's my job to listen to music that i normally might not pick up....But to simply dismiss the kid because he's young and happening is silly...And since when has it been a crime for artists to be high on themselves....that's part of being a star baby...whether you are talented or not....
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Reply #37 posted 02/17/05 12:08pm

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He just ain't my thang...sorry shrug
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Reply #38 posted 02/17/05 1:39pm

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murph said:

Tish4 said:

How very right you are.....my apologies. But what I meant by that was how Usher was just getting all the fame and fortne while Prince was kinda pushed off to the side a little bit, know what I mean? That's all




As an old school Prince fan (not fam), I have to say can we cease with all the Usher bashing...It's getting a little tired...The kid is what's happening in 2005...Stop comparing the two...They have nothing to do with each other...damn...The reason why he is getting the fame is because he's young and current...Welcome to the music business...Usher is not for us, guys...He's for the kids that are buying records today...There's nothing wrong with new artists getting love...Prince got his shine for damn near 25 years straight...Let some other artists have some fun...
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I'm 37 and I like Usher's music. I don't like him (the person) but I think I'll give him a pass because he's 25 years old and rich and cocky. I can recall some even saying the same about Prince at 25.

Music doesn't and shouldn't really have an age on it. Hell my mother would by Nelly and Alicia Keys when she would buy her some old Ike and Tina. If you like it, you like it. I think Usher has produced some pretty ok stuff especially the previous cds.
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Reply #39 posted 02/17/05 2:04pm

namepeace

Rhondab said:

I'm 37 and I like Usher's music. I don't like him (the person) but I think I'll give him a pass because he's 25 years old and rich and cocky. I can recall some even saying the same about Prince at 25.

Music doesn't and shouldn't really have an age on it. Hell my mother would by Nelly and Alicia Keys when she would buy her some old Ike and Tina. If you like it, you like it. I think Usher has produced some pretty ok stuff especially the previous cds.


I agree. "U Don't Have To Call" is one of my favorite songs in years. I like a lot of the singles the newer acts put out, but it just doesn't grab me. Nothing Usher's come out with since that track has impressed me.

Usher is quite cocky, but Prince was cockier, and even childish, in his younger days. Now, IMHO, Prince had far more reason to be cocky, because his skill set was vast compared to Usher's, whose skill set is limited (does a few things well).

But he's almost becoming too popular for his own good. Few crossover male solo artists have a long shelf life.
Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016

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Reply #40 posted 02/17/05 2:09pm

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Dang, people hatin' just because an artist gets some acclaim after more than a decade in the business. People jump on him if he compliments someone, then they jump on him if he doesn't. Lose-lose situation. Do ur thing, Usher!! People don't have 2 like the music, but all the hating and bashing is just a waste of time and energy.
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Reply #41 posted 02/17/05 2:26pm

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i like usher. i love Prince. granted i am still young and i love hip hop. but i don't really own any hip hop or R&B cds. I'm more into old school. still, what differnce does it make? Usher, IMHO, is a very talented artist who is happenin at the time, and frankly it would be considered by many ridiculous if he didn't win a single grammy. Prince has been around a lot longer and knows the game. their music styles r differnt too! And if Usher wants to be cocky an' all that jazz, then...oh well. I can understand why ppl would be upset with him and his 'im the best attitude." but really, with ppl my age, he is considered the best that R&B music has to offer at the time. If he wants to make a complimentary comment about Prince, then...alright.if he's bein fake, then it's his loss that he can't really appretiate the most talented artist out there.
Prince will still rule here.
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Reply #42 posted 02/17/05 2:33pm

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The problem with Usher is that he is like a male version of J.Lo, yet he gets way more cred. He is like Bobby Brown for a new generation.

Can he sing? Marginally
Can he dance? Yes. Just as B. Brown and J.Lo can.
Can he write??? A bit.
Can he play?? Well, he can pose with a guitar and spin it real pretty.
Does he produce (is he responsible for his sound)? Nope.
Is he original at all? Not so much.
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Reply #43 posted 02/17/05 2:38pm

namepeace

skywalker said:

He is like Bobby Brown for a new generation.


I said that once in another forum and I got drilled.
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Reply #44 posted 02/17/05 2:55pm

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cool Usher knows who is the real deal. I bet he is pissed Prince beat him. That is why the Grammy's are the better of all these music award shows. They do acknowledge musicians with talent. music
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Reply #45 posted 02/17/05 8:11pm

murph

namepeace said:

skywalker said:

He is like Bobby Brown for a new generation.


I said that once in another forum and I got drilled.




He's Bobby Brown with a better voice and without the drugs...don't forget the drugs...
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Reply #46 posted 02/17/05 8:27pm

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Reply #47 posted 02/17/05 8:36pm

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TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

thekidsgirl said:



Well I'm just barely not a kid (as are many others here), but I'm not
throwin my pannies at Usher.
He's too cocky and his music just doesnt appeal to me.

I'll admit I liked a few of his songs off that older CD (?title)
but that was then and this is now cool
nod 8701 and My Way were much better albums.

Yes they were. I glad I'm not the only one who thinks that way. highfive
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #48 posted 02/17/05 10:23pm

JOEYCOCO

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Reply #49 posted 02/17/05 11:16pm

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zill said:

He really said it.

http://www.newusic.it/php...8020113442
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That's right Usher. Show some respect & Prince may give you a new song just like what he did with Tevin Campbell!!!
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Reply #50 posted 02/17/05 11:19pm

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sisforscandalous said:

i like usher. i love Prince. granted i am still young and i love hip hop. but i don't really own any hip hop or R&B cds. I'm more into old school. still, what differnce does it make? Usher, IMHO, is a very talented artist who is happenin at the time, and frankly it would be considered by many ridiculous if he didn't win a single grammy. Prince has been around a lot longer and knows the game. their music styles r differnt too! And if Usher wants to be cocky an' all that jazz, then...oh well. I can understand why ppl would be upset with him and his 'im the best attitude." but really, with ppl my age, he is considered the best that R&B music has to offer at the time. If he wants to make a complimentary comment about Prince, then...alright.if he's bein fake, then it's his loss that he can't really appretiate the most talented artist out there.
Prince will still rule here.


Now that's being fair. And yes, they should do a song together to help heal the tensions within the generation gaps.
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Reply #51 posted 02/18/05 1:45am

haleno1

zill said:

I hope my translation is comprehensible....


It seems to be faithful the news delivered by Sky News about Usher wanting to work with Prince in his next album.
“I know it will be the turning point of my career”, Usher said.
And then again, about Prince :“In my opinion he’s still the king”.
Meanwhile Caught up, the fifth Usher single from Confessions, is keeping the top in Usa charts.


Just a thought guy's

Usher used to say Michael Jackson was the king, now cos things ain't rosy there Prince is the King, then doing his thing with James Brown at the grammy's. Take a begging bowl to Paisley why don't ya!!
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Reply #52 posted 02/18/05 2:52am

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zill said:

He really said it.

http://www.newusic.it/php...8020113442
[Edited 2/15/05 3:25am]


he just said it to get into alicias good books.

why is everyone on here talking about usher all the time?
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Reply #53 posted 02/18/05 4:20am

Annastesia22

But its true ,he is the king but Usher will never be Prince prince yes flower rainbow
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Reply #54 posted 02/18/05 7:12am

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murph said:

namepeace said:



I said that once in another forum and I got drilled.




He's Bobby Brown with a better voice and without the drugs...don't forget the drugs...


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God, I'm glad someone here remembered that Usher can SING--unlike Bobby Brown and *most* of New Edition. Unlike most of the pop artists out there that bark their "lyrics", Usher does have talent.

To mention him and Prince in the same sentence is misleading. They are nothing alike as artists. Prince fans shouldn't by default hate Usher. It's like hating Yngwie Malmsteen.

Pop music in the past ten to fifteen years is just a continuation of the video age. Get a good looking front man or woman and surround them with talent. All of these artists fall off sooner or later if they don't have talent.

The hardest part is talented artists falling off of pop radio. Then they tend to disappear. When you realize that there is a lot of GOOD music that is never widely known, then you realize that pop music has been and will always be for a specific audience.

Usher, for who he is, and what he's targeting, is better than most.

But he'll never be a Prince.
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