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Reply #120 posted 05/11/18 5:02pm

FlyOnTheWall

petalthecat said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

She's Prince's last confirmed girlfriend. nod

No she isn't

Okay. Then, who is?

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Reply #121 posted 05/11/18 5:16pm

pinkcashmere23

FlyOnTheWall said:

petalthecat said:

No she isn't

Okay. Then, who is?

Lala's latest FB post is very suggestive. I wonder about her sometimes.The writer of Prince's article in Mojo magazine also said that he was with a beautiful Latina during the interview.I'm not sure she was an official girlfriend but I think they may have dated at one time.

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Reply #122 posted 05/11/18 5:17pm

poppys

FlyOnTheWall said:

cloveringold85 said:

Women have more emotions than Men do, and women tend to be more expressive about their feelings than most men, so everytime one of Prince's ex GF or wives are mentioned, all hell breaks loose! We all have a difference of opinion regarding all of Prince's women and we are passionate about how we feel. We are entitled to our opinions, but it's when we start attacking each other, and muddying the waters, so-to-speak, that we get off-topic and then things just go from bad to worse.

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Prince had exe's, and that was for good reason! lol

I agree. And, the ONLY thing that will fix this problem is a strictly adhered to ZERO TOLERANCE policy prohibiting personal attacks, name-calling, and bullying. That should be the focus of the moderators, not trying to censor the volume of threads about certain Prince love interests. Without such a seriously enforced policy, certain Orgers know that they have a pass to target and cause mayhem on any thread they don't like.

And, without such consistent enforcement, limiting the number of threads about certain Prince love interests will not make one bit of difference. At all. Nothing will change. The band of disruptive Orgers will just do the same hateful things, only on super-long threads...which will still end up being removed/erased...which actually rewards the trouble-makers. It is a vicious, nonsensical cycle. And, it is taking a real toll on the credibility of Prince.org.


How about thread hogging & hijacking by one person with multiple IDs all replying to each other on the same topic ad nauseum? Can we have a ZERO TOLERANCE policy on that too?

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Reply #123 posted 05/11/18 5:28pm

FlyOnTheWall

poppys said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I agree. And, the ONLY thing that will fix this problem is a strictly adhered to ZERO TOLERANCE policy prohibiting personal attacks, name-calling, and bullying. That should be the focus of the moderators, not trying to censor the volume of threads about certain Prince love interests. Without such a seriously enforced policy, certain Orgers know that they have a pass to target and cause mayhem on any thread they don't like.

And, without such consistent enforcement, limiting the number of threads about certain Prince love interests will not make one bit of difference. At all. Nothing will change. The band of disruptive Orgers will just do the same hateful things, only on super-long threads...which will still end up being removed/erased...which actually rewards the trouble-makers. It is a vicious, nonsensical cycle. And, it is taking a real toll on the credibility of Prince.org.


How about thread hogging & hijacking by one person with multiple IDs all replying to each other on the same topic ad nauseum? Can we have a ZERO TOLERANCE policy on that too?

I absolutely agree: Prince.org definitely needs to crack down on people with multiple screen names who habitually manufacture a crowd to target and disrupt threads they don't like. I almost mentioned this Org phenomenon earlier, but that seems to really set some people off, causing them to threaten to "report" me to the moderators. Thanks for bringing that to the table, poppys!!

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Reply #124 posted 05/11/18 6:11pm

petalthecat

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FlyOnTheWall said:

petalthecat said:

No she isn't

Okay. Then, who is?

For starters, Prince and Andy or anyone close and reputable has never confirmed her being a girlfriend. Lots of people still believe that there was some serious publicity going on there, i happen to believe that there was a relationship. Or a dalliance, shall we say..it ended abruptly and they both moved on. From 2010 onwards (post Bria) P definitely surrounded himself with lots of female companions. We know of a few, Lala, Andy, that Swedish singer (forgotten her name!), Delilah, Natalya, Tamron, Damaris, Judith and maybe some we don't know of. I'm not saying all of these were intimate relationships but i have absolutely no reason to disbelieve Judith when she has stated she was his girlfriend for the last 2 years of his life. Even though you try your best to discredit her because it doesn't fit your agenda of him pining away and "reaching out" to Andy!

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Reply #125 posted 05/11/18 6:21pm

pinkcashmere23

petalthecat said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Okay. Then, who is?

For starters, Prince and Andy or anyone close and reputable has never confirmed her being a girlfriend. Lots of people still believe that there was some serious publicity going on there, i happen to believe that there was a relationship. Or a dalliance, shall we say..it ended abruptly and they both moved on. From 2010 onwards (post Bria) P definitely surrounded himself with lots of female companions. We know of a few, Lala, Andy, that Swedish singer (forgotten her name!), Delilah, Natalya, Tamron, Damaris, Judith and maybe some we don't know of. I'm not saying all of these were intimate relationships but i have absolutely no reason to disbelieve Judith when she has stated she was his girlfriend for the last 2 years of his life. Even though you try your best to discredit her because it doesn't fit your agenda of him pining away and "reaching out" to Andy!

The Swedish singer is Snoh Aalegra. I wonder about her too with her traveling with him and the mention of 4 am doughnut outings.

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Reply #126 posted 05/11/18 6:34pm

FlyOnTheWall

petalthecat said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Okay. Then, who is?

For starters, Prince and Andy or anyone close and reputable has never confirmed her being a girlfriend. Lots of people still believe that there was some serious publicity going on there, i happen to believe that there was a relationship. Or a dalliance, shall we say..it ended abruptly and they both moved on. From 2010 onwards (post Bria) P definitely surrounded himself with lots of female companions. We know of a few, Lala, Andy, that Swedish singer (forgotten her name!), Delilah, Natalya, Tamron, Damaris, Judith and maybe some we don't know of. I'm not saying all of these were intimate relationships but i have absolutely no reason to disbelieve Judith when she has stated she was his girlfriend for the last 2 years of his life. Even though you try your best to discredit her because it doesn't fit your agenda of him pining away and "reaching out" to Andy!

It's true that Prince was surrounded with beautiful women; however, like you, I don't think he was intimately involved with most of them. I'm curious, though: To what end do you think Prince would stage a relationship with Andy Allo?

Also, I think Judith Hill is a beautiful woman with immense musical talent; however, I just never saw any signs of a romantic involvement between Judith and Prince. My gut just always said otherwise. And, that was before the Carver County documents were released. Therein, in case you've not heard, THREE Prince insiders, when asked by the police, said that Prince and JH were not involved: Kirk, his bodyguard Chris, and his driver Kim. Why would they put themselves on the line to lie about P and JH?

Moreover, Kiran and Damaris pitched a FIT on social media after the New York Times article reporting Judith's claims of being romantically involved with Prince. One of them even said that she should not "romanticize" the situation. Now, if you are counting, you'll note that means that FIVE Prince insiders have cast serious doubts on JH's claims. In fact, I don't know about anyone else, but IMHO, that is beyond compelling evidence.

Now...with regard to Prince and Andy's relationship being unconfirmed, I thought that ship had sailed on the Org. Not only has his longtime hairdresser Kim Berry confirmed this fact in numerous interviews, but the UK documentary, in which Andy appeared, identified her as "Prince's girlfriend." So, I'm not even going to argue with you. It is what it is. That is all. Bye, petal!! wave

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Reply #127 posted 05/11/18 6:36pm

FlyOnTheWall

pinkcashmere23 said:

petalthecat said:

For starters, Prince and Andy or anyone close and reputable has never confirmed her being a girlfriend. Lots of people still believe that there was some serious publicity going on there, i happen to believe that there was a relationship. Or a dalliance, shall we say..it ended abruptly and they both moved on. From 2010 onwards (post Bria) P definitely surrounded himself with lots of female companions. We know of a few, Lala, Andy, that Swedish singer (forgotten her name!), Delilah, Natalya, Tamron, Damaris, Judith and maybe some we don't know of. I'm not saying all of these were intimate relationships but i have absolutely no reason to disbelieve Judith when she has stated she was his girlfriend for the last 2 years of his life. Even though you try your best to discredit her because it doesn't fit your agenda of him pining away and "reaching out" to Andy!

The Swedish singer is Snoh Aalegra. I wonder about her too with her traveling with him and the mention of 4 am doughnut outings.

Didn't JH tell the police that, before her, Andy and Bria were his girlfriends?

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Reply #128 posted 05/11/18 6:42pm

pinkcashmere23

FlyOnTheWall said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

The Swedish singer is Snoh Aalegra. I wonder about her too with her traveling with him and the mention of 4 am doughnut outings.

Didn't JH tell the police that, before her, Andy and Bria were his girlfriends?

Yes she did. I would like to have heard the audio of the interview. From the transcript she seemed very shaken up,understandably.

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Reply #129 posted 05/11/18 7:25pm

RJP1205

confused A thread about threads has more interest/comments than a thread about new music coming...
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Reply #130 posted 05/11/18 8:39pm

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Yup I still have no reason to disbelieve Judith, sorry. Not based on comments from unreliable sources and people who have no idea what went on behind P's bedroom door. And Damaris' rant sounded like jealousy to me, seems he was probably playing them both. And the question remains...why would she lie about it? To further her career? In a police interview she probably thought was private? Doesn't really add up. I honestly can't see the problem you have with it. It's hilarious watching you try to downplay every other woman he was associated with. We really don't know who his relationships were with or how he felt about anyone and never will so it's pointless speculating ad nauseam
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Reply #131 posted 05/11/18 8:59pm

pinkcashmere23

petalthecat said:

Yup I still have no reason to disbelieve Judith, sorry. Not based on comments from unreliable sources and people who have no idea what went on behind P's bedroom door. And Damaris' rant sounded like jealousy to me, seems he was probably playing them both. And the question remains...why would she lie about it? To further her career? In a police interview she probably thought was private? Doesn't really add up. I honestly can't see the problem you have with it. It's hilarious watching you try to downplay every other woman he was associated with. We really don't know who his relationships were with or how he felt about anyone and never will so it's pointless speculating ad nauseam

Damaris said they were not involved and I believe her.She also had a boyfriend the entire time she was working with Prince from what she said in another twitter rant. It seems that Prince had several female friends but no real serious girlfriend. Judith didn't make the relationship sound that serious.She told them they were romantically involved. Some close to him said that he was not in a relationship and that he didn't have a girlfriend at the time.It's possible he and Judith were able to keep their relationship private but they must not have interacted much around others from what was said.

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Reply #132 posted 05/11/18 9:21pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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FlyOnTheWall said:

PennyPurple said:

You were acting like you were accused of starting 7 AA threads. That's why I asked, 'who said you started them'?

See, this is an example of the personal attacks I mentioned earlier. People do far too much of this on the Org. I think we need to be careful to read exactly what people write...and not project what we think they are really saying. Good grief. Please lay off me, Penny.

I have an original thought for you....quit playing the victim.

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Reply #133 posted 05/11/18 9:44pm

Krystalkisses

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pinkcashmere23 said:

petalthecat said:

Yup I still have no reason to disbelieve Judith, sorry. Not based on comments from unreliable sources and people who have no idea what went on behind P's bedroom door. And Damaris' rant sounded like jealousy to me, seems he was probably playing them both. And the question remains...why would she lie about it? To further her career? In a police interview she probably thought was private? Doesn't really add up. I honestly can't see the problem you have with it. It's hilarious watching you try to downplay every other woman he was associated with. We really don't know who his relationships were with or how he felt about anyone and never will so it's pointless speculating ad nauseam

Damaris said they were not involved and I believe her.She also had a boyfriend the entire time she was working with Prince from what she said in another twitter rant. It seems that Prince had several female friends but no real serious girlfriend. Judith didn't make the relationship sound that serious.She told them they were romantically involved. Some close to him said that he was not in a relationship and that he didn't have a girlfriend at the time.It's possible he and Judith were able to keep their relationship private but they must not have interacted much around others from what was said.

Well I guess maybe you could be sleeping with someone and not be someone's gf and least not in the man's mind. So maybe it is a case of miscommunication. Also, I don't really know how opiates affect someone's libido. Is it realistic to think Prince had much interest in women and abusing painkillers?

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Reply #134 posted 05/11/18 9:54pm

pinkcashmere23

Krystalkisses said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Damaris said they were not involved and I believe her.She also had a boyfriend the entire time she was working with Prince from what she said in another twitter rant. It seems that Prince had several female friends but no real serious girlfriend. Judith didn't make the relationship sound that serious.She told them they were romantically involved. Some close to him said that he was not in a relationship and that he didn't have a girlfriend at the time.It's possible he and Judith were able to keep their relationship private but they must not have interacted much around others from what was said.

Well I guess maybe you could be sleeping with someone and not be someone's gf and least not in the man's mind. So maybe it is a case of miscommunication. Also, I don't really know how opiates affect someone's libido. Is it realistic to think Prince had much interest in women and abusing painkillers?

I agree.From what Judith said in her interview with the authorities,he didn't seem to have much interest in anything.She said that he told her that everything was boring to him,even performing.

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Reply #135 posted 05/11/18 9:58pm

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pinkcashmere23 said:

Krystalkisses said:

Well I guess maybe you could be sleeping with someone and not be someone's gf and least not in the man's mind. So maybe it is a case of miscommunication. Also, I don't really know how opiates affect someone's libido. Is it realistic to think Prince had much interest in women and abusing painkillers?

I agree.From what Judith said in her interview with the authorities,he didn't seem to have much interest in anything.She said that he told her that everything was boring to him,even performing.

That is a major symptom of depression. Losing interest in things you once loved. sad

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Reply #136 posted 05/11/18 10:09pm

pinkcashmere23

Krystalkisses said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

I agree.From what Judith said in her interview with the authorities,he didn't seem to have much interest in anything.She said that he told her that everything was boring to him,even performing.

That is a major symptom of depression. Losing interest in things you once loved. sad

I know. I just wonder how long he had been like that and if those close to him were aware of it.

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Reply #137 posted 05/11/18 11:00pm

FlyOnTheWall

petalthecat said:

Yup I still have no reason to disbelieve Judith, sorry. Not based on comments from unreliable sources and people who have no idea what went on behind P's bedroom door. And Damaris' rant sounded like jealousy to me, seems he was probably playing them both. And the question remains...why would she lie about it? To further her career? In a police interview she probably thought was private? Doesn't really add up. I honestly can't see the problem you have with it. It's hilarious watching you try to downplay every other woman he was associated with. We really don't know who his relationships were with or how he felt about anyone and never will so it's pointless speculating ad nauseam

So, his body guards and driver, who were around him virtually 24/7 are "unreliable sources"? Okay.

Plus, Damaris has said on the record that she and Prince were friends and that he was a mentor.

"Why would Judith lie?" you ask. I won't even speculate on that. Maybe she really believes what she told the police about being his girlfriend...but everyone who speaks on the record--and who was around Prince constantly and at his beck and call--seems to remember it differently. I think that is significant. I'm just saying.

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Reply #138 posted 05/11/18 11:12pm

FlyOnTheWall

Krystalkisses said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Damaris said they were not involved and I believe her.She also had a boyfriend the entire time she was working with Prince from what she said in another twitter rant. It seems that Prince had several female friends but no real serious girlfriend. Judith didn't make the relationship sound that serious.She told them they were romantically involved. Some close to him said that he was not in a relationship and that he didn't have a girlfriend at the time.It's possible he and Judith were able to keep their relationship private but they must not have interacted much around others from what was said.

Well I guess maybe you could be sleeping with someone and not be someone's gf and least not in the man's mind. So maybe it is a case of miscommunication. Also, I don't really know how opiates affect someone's libido. Is it realistic to think Prince had much interest in women and abusing painkillers?

It has not even been established that JH was sleeping with Prince. I have heard that she stayed at a hotel in Chanhassen while she was working for extended periods at Paisley Park. And, based on the police interview I read, she seemed totally flummoxed when they asked her which side of the bed P slept on. After stumbling over the question, she eventually said that he slept on the side closest to the bathroom. And, we know for sure that when Prince flew her in to attend the Atlanta PAAM show, she told the police that she flew in the night before...and she was driven to her hotel. The more I think about it, that is probably a large part of why the bodyguards and driver say that she was not intimately involved with Prince: apparently, she didn't spend nights at The Park.



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Reply #139 posted 05/12/18 1:24am

benni

Even on a thread talking about the excessive threads, people are STILL going on about who was/wasn't his girlfriend/lover. Amazing.

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Reply #140 posted 05/12/18 1:25am

SoulAlive

benni said:

Even on a thread talking about the excessive threads, people are STILL going on about who was/wasn't his girlfriend/lover. Amazing.

I know,right? nuts lol

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Reply #141 posted 05/12/18 5:52am

pinkcashmere23

It appears that the thread order has changed on the board and some threads don't move when replied to.

[Edited 5/12/18 6:03am]

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Reply #142 posted 05/12/18 6:11am

206Michelle

endiadj said:

disch said:

It's not all that confusing. I don't think there's more than 2 threads on the first page about any one associated. Exept for andy allo. She has 7.


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But the bigger problem is that "associate" has come to mean "girlfriend/wife" instead of professional collaborator, and the discussions are all about his personal relationships with these women, rather than professional.


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For example, the discussion of Janelle monae's excellent new album is in the "non-prince music" section. Would she not be considered an "associate"? what's the definition? if the definition is "lover/protegee" then just call this section that.



pinkcashmere23 said:




purplemist7777 said:


OldFriends4Sale said: Great! This is not AA.org

There are multiple posts about a few of the other female associates too. It is kind of confusing and a bit hard to follow.




Mayt e has 4.

Mayte was his wife, mother of his only child, and professional collaborator (muse, dancer, band member). Regardless of how one feels about her, her impact on his music and personal life was very significant.
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Reply #143 posted 05/12/18 6:12am

poppys

This is insane Pink/Fly. We all know you post using multiple IDs. Get REAL. There is only one person shoving Andy down our throats on every thread. You are not doing her any favors either. She probably needs extra security. cop

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Reply #144 posted 05/12/18 6:23am

pinkcashmere23

206Michelle said:

endiadj said:
Mayt e has 4.
Mayte was his wife, mother of his only child, and professional collaborator (muse, dancer, band member). Regardless of how one feels about her, her impact on his music and personal life was very significant.

Did Mayte's Appreciation thread get locked or did it expire? I didn't see the reply button.

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Reply #145 posted 05/12/18 6:30am

pinkcashmere23

poppys said:

This is insane Pink/Fly. We all know you post using multiple IDs. Get REAL. There is only one person shoving Andy down our throats on every thread. You are not doing her any favors either. She probably needs extra security. cop

Actually,if you look at the thread created by purplerabbithole concerning Andy's letter,you will see that several posters responded to the thread and appeared to be interested in Prince and Andy's relationship.People can ignore threads they have no interest in. I'm sorry that you find it upsetting that several of Prince's fans like Andy,including some of us here.

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Reply #146 posted 05/12/18 6:56am

FlyOnTheWall

poppys said:

This is insane Pink/Fly. We all know you post using multiple IDs. Get REAL. There is only one person shoving Andy down our throats on every thread. You are not doing her any favors either. She probably needs extra security. cop

Your claim is ridiculous and without merit. It is also an insidious personal attack. And, it raises a very interesting question: Why are you trying to make it seem that interest in Andy Allo is limited...and manufactured? I hate to break it to you, but people can see through your attempts to malign me. What you are attempting to do is obvious. Shame on you.

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Reply #147 posted 05/12/18 6:59am

FlyOnTheWall

benni said:

Even on a thread talking about the excessive threads, people are STILL going on about who was/wasn't his girlfriend/lover. Amazing.

Look at the bright side, benni: At least it's a good thread to push your book.

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Reply #148 posted 05/12/18 7:12am

206Michelle

pinkcashmere23 said:



FlyOnTheWall said:




petalthecat said:



No she isn't



Okay. Then, who is?



Lala's latest FB post is very suggestive. I wonder about her sometimes.The writer of Prince's article in Mojo magazine also said that he was with a beautiful Latina during the interview.I'm not sure she was an official girlfriend but I think they may have dated at one time.




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I wonder about Prince and Lala’s relationship as well.
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Reply #149 posted 05/12/18 7:17am

pinkcashmere23

206Michelle said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Lala's latest FB post is very suggestive. I wonder about her sometimes.The writer of Prince's article in Mojo magazine also said that he was with a beautiful Latina during the interview.I'm not sure she was an official girlfriend but I think they may have dated at one time.

[Edited 5/11/18 18:06pm]

I wonder about Prince and Lala’s relationship as well.

Yes. He never said a thing about her.She was kind of a mystery. Her latest post on Facebook is interesting.

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