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Reply #30 posted 05/10/18 2:52pm

SoulAlive

Let's get some more threads about Morris Day and The Time,Mazarati,Jesse Johnson,etc......where their music is being discussed and analyzed! Isn't that better than focusing on all the women that Prince slept with? hmmm

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Reply #31 posted 05/10/18 3:00pm

anangellooksdo
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FlyOnTheWall said:



disch said:


Fly, most of the responders on the Andy Allo threads who aren't one of the 3 usual suspects are people trying to talk some sense into the 3 usual suspects (well, primarily you, frankly) about what reads as an obsession. There aren't heaps of people eagerly joining your conversations about, say, the meaning of that ring andy wore in that one picture.


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And, yes, the 7 threads were started by a couple different people, besides the 3 you started. For example, one was started by a moderator to as a retort to you when you were complaining that you were being prevented from having the full quantity of active andy allo threads that you felt entitled to.


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But it's all moot because the moderators have some plan to clean up this section and good for them!



FlyOnTheWall said:



No, it's not a competition, but it was YOU who singled out Andy Allo for a thread count....and I responded to YOUR reply. And, now that I have pointed out that there are multiple threads for several Prince associates, you want to conveniently forget counting.

Also, BTW, there are Andy threads that were started by FOUR different Orgers...and there are NUMEROUS responders on each. I don't know why you want to make it seem like there are only three Orgers interested in AA, but it's just not true.





That's just not true. Of course, there are two-three Orgers who come on every single Andy thread hurling insults, unfounded rumors, and profanity, but somehow they are the sensible ones in your story. Besides those Orgers, there are numerous other participants in the threads.

It is also important to note that you could say the same thing about threads about Mayte, Vanity, etc: There is a core group of Orgers who keep them going. But, none of them are hounded like Andy enthusiasts.

And, I'll not wade into the moderator quagmire, beyond saying that my major issue is (and remains) the erasure of wonderfully informative threads on Prince and Andy, which, btw, translates to archival information on the final years of his life. You would think such information would be welcome on Prince.org.



Only one person uses profanity (although I said “bullsh*t” once, and what I said on a certain thread was not an u founded rumor.
I have spoken at length with someone who had a longterm relationship with him during 2011-2012, and whom he pursued until mid-2013.
The unfounded rumor was the one Pink put there today.
~Paisley Park is in your heart~
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Reply #32 posted 05/10/18 3:03pm

anangellooksdo
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By the way, all I will say was, that Prince was ONE SEXY MF.
So you girls who’ve been dreaming...
Keep doing so.
He is JUST as u imagined. smile love love2 kisses hug oral
~Paisley Park is in your heart~
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Reply #33 posted 05/10/18 3:08pm

PennyPurple

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And the posters who are over running this thread are 1 of the reasons this has become such a problem. You know who you 2 are.

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Reply #34 posted 05/10/18 3:10pm

FlyOnTheWall

anangellooksdown said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

That's just not true. Of course, there are two-three Orgers who come on every single Andy thread hurling insults, unfounded rumors, and profanity, but somehow they are the sensible ones in your story. Besides those Orgers, there are numerous other participants in the threads.

It is also important to note that you could say the same thing about threads about Mayte, Vanity, etc: There is a core group of Orgers who keep them going. But, none of them are hounded like Andy enthusiasts.

And, I'll not wade into the moderator quagmire, beyond saying that my major issue is (and remains) the erasure of wonderfully informative threads on Prince and Andy, which, btw, translates to archival information on the final years of his life. You would think such information would be welcome on Prince.org.

Only one person uses profanity (although I said “bullsh*t” once, and what I said on a certain thread was not an u founded rumor. I have spoken at length with someone who had a longterm relationship with him during 2011-2012, and whom he pursued until mid-2013. The unfounded rumor was the one Pink put there today.

I hate to break it to you, angel, but that is what is called an unfounded rumor. And, I saw the rumor that pink posted, which she indicated is a rumor that should be taken with a grain of salt. But, at least she could point us (actually, it was YOU) to the Twitter post where it was written. You can't even give us that with your recycled LSA tales...and you have the nerve to insist that the drivel you spout is factual...and that you are privy to some exclusive secret about P's love life. You never cease to amaze me.

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Reply #35 posted 05/10/18 3:21pm

pinkcashmere23

anangellooksdown said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

That's just not true. Of course, there are two-three Orgers who come on every single Andy thread hurling insults, unfounded rumors, and profanity, but somehow they are the sensible ones in your story. Besides those Orgers, there are numerous other participants in the threads.

It is also important to note that you could say the same thing about threads about Mayte, Vanity, etc: There is a core group of Orgers who keep them going. But, none of them are hounded like Andy enthusiasts.

And, I'll not wade into the moderator quagmire, beyond saying that my major issue is (and remains) the erasure of wonderfully informative threads on Prince and Andy, which, btw, translates to archival information on the final years of his life. You would think such information would be welcome on Prince.org.

Only one person uses profanity (although I said “bullsh*t” once, and what I said on a certain thread was not an u founded rumor. I have spoken at length with someone who had a longterm relationship with him during 2011-2012, and whom he pursued until mid-2013. The unfounded rumor was the one Pink put there today.

I didn't post the rumor until sharpie asked. I thought that most fans on social media would know what I was referring to since the Prince fan group that posted the article is well known and widely followed.As I said earlier I take rumors that I have read online such as the one about T&C with a grain of salt.Unless something comes from someone I know was close to him such as Hannah Welton,Shelby or Elisa for instance,I am skeptical about what to believe.

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Reply #36 posted 05/10/18 3:31pm

SoulAlive

This forum is a mess.There is too much focus on all the women that Prince slept with....too much tabloid garbage.
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Reply #37 posted 05/10/18 3:32pm

SoulAlive

rogifan said:

How about one thread per associate where news, video, social medial etc. can be posted. Would be much better than 5 different threads about something Andy or Mayte did/said.


This is a good idea
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Reply #38 posted 05/10/18 3:35pm

anangellooksdo
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FlyOnTheWall said:



anangellooksdown said:


FlyOnTheWall said:


That's just not true. Of course, there are two-three Orgers who come on every single Andy thread hurling insults, unfounded rumors, and profanity, but somehow they are the sensible ones in your story. Besides those Orgers, there are numerous other participants in the threads.

It is also important to note that you could say the same thing about threads about Mayte, Vanity, etc: There is a core group of Orgers who keep them going. But, none of them are hounded like Andy enthusiasts.

And, I'll not wade into the moderator quagmire, beyond saying that my major issue is (and remains) the erasure of wonderfully informative threads on Prince and Andy, which, btw, translates to archival information on the final years of his life. You would think such information would be welcome on Prince.org.



Only one person uses profanity (although I said “bullsh*t” once, and what I said on a certain thread was not an u founded rumor. I have spoken at length with someone who had a longterm relationship with him during 2011-2012, and whom he pursued until mid-2013. The unfounded rumor was the one Pink put there today.

I hate to break it to you, angel, but that is what is called an unfounded rumor. And, I saw the rumor that pink posted, which she indicated is a rumor that should be taken with a grain of salt. But, at least she could point us (actually, it was YOU) to the Twitter post where it was written. You can't even give us that with your recycled LSA tales...and you have the nerve to insist that the drivel you spout is factual...and that you are privy to some exclusive secret about P's love life. You never cease to amaze me.



You’re not saying that I am incapable of discerning whether something is true, are you?.
Ok. Choose to believe it or not...
It happened.
Obviously I am not going to divulge to anyone who the woman is. I gave my word and will never go back on it.
~Paisley Park is in your heart~
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Reply #39 posted 05/10/18 3:35pm

pinkcashmere23

FlyOnTheWall said:

anangellooksdown said:

FlyOnTheWall said: Only one person uses profanity (although I said “bullsh*t” once, and what I said on a certain thread was not an u founded rumor. I have spoken at length with someone who had a longterm relationship with him during 2011-2012, and whom he pursued until mid-2013. The unfounded rumor was the one Pink put there today.

I hate to break it to you, angel, but that is what is called an unfounded rumor. And, I saw the rumor that pink posted, which she indicated is a rumor that should be taken with a grain of salt. But, at least she could point us (actually, it was YOU) to the Twitter post where it was written. You can't even give us that with your recycled LSA tales...and you have the nerve to insist that the drivel you spout is factual...and that you are privy to some exclusive secret about P's love life. You never cease to amaze me.

Thanks Fly! I actually was wondering myself where the rumor originated from and sharpieheartz posted the link to the source.

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Reply #40 posted 05/10/18 3:37pm

SoulAlive

On page one of this forum,there are hardly any threads about any of the *male* associates...it’s just thread after thread about Andy,Mayte,etc....the same,tired discussions going on and on and on.
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Reply #41 posted 05/10/18 3:40pm

anangellooksdo
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SoulAlive said:

On page one of this forum,there are hardly any threads about any of the *male* associates...it’s just thread after thread about Andy,Mayte,etc....the same,tired discussions going on and on and on.


There are SO many interesting male associates.
~Paisley Park is in your heart~
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Reply #42 posted 05/10/18 3:40pm

SoulAlive

OldFriends4Sale said:



This is the new reality post April 2016 all the people who are team ___ or team ____ but this is getting out of hand. Just a lot of petty back in forth...
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Yall get this out of your system quick, because there is going to be a new reality to the Associate Artist forum real soon.



hey,can you do a few those in-depth threads where you focus on a specific album? How about the Mazarati album? I enjoy those discussions smile we gotta get this forum back on track.
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Reply #43 posted 05/10/18 3:41pm

FlyOnTheWall

anangellooksdown said:

By the way, all I will say was, that Prince was ONE SEXY MF. So you girls who’ve been dreaming... Keep doing so. He is JUST as u imagined. smile love love2 kisses hug oral

hmph!

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Reply #44 posted 05/10/18 3:44pm

FlyOnTheWall

SoulAlive said:

On page one of this forum,there are hardly any threads about any of the *male* associates...it’s just thread after thread about Andy,Mayte,etc....the same,tired discussions going on and on and on.

SoulAlive, more people should start (and maintain) threads about what interests them. That is the only way to assure a more diverse selection of topics.

[Edited 5/10/18 15:54pm]

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Reply #45 posted 05/10/18 4:07pm

pinkcashmere23

FlyOnTheWall said:

SoulAlive said:

On page one of this forum,there are hardly any threads about any of the *male* associates...it’s just thread after thread about Andy,Mayte,etc....the same,tired discussions going on and on and on.

SoulAlive, more people should start (and maintain) threads about what interests them. That is the only way to assure a more diverse selection of topics.

[Edited 5/10/18 15:54pm]

That's very true. I appreciate that Latin has been posting about a variety of topics such as upcoming events and several of the associated artists projects.

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Reply #46 posted 05/10/18 4:15pm

SoulAlive

FlyOnTheWall said:



SoulAlive said:


On page one of this forum,there are hardly any threads about any of the *male* associates...it’s just thread after thread about Andy,Mayte,etc....the same,tired discussions going on and on and on.

SoulAlive, more people should start (and maintain) threads about what interests them. That is the only way to assure a more diverse selection of topics.



Good point,but I just think that there are too many “gossipy” threads in this forum and it’s always about the female protégés.A lot of these threads are about personal things that have nothing to do with their music.

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Reply #47 posted 05/10/18 4:22pm

SoulAlive

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Just create a new section entirely called "Prince's Lovers" where ostensibly adult people who have a LOT of time on their hands can get in touch with their inner seventh grader by bickering over who was prince's "soul mate," the hidden message of a tweet in 2014, the secret code in the shirt so-and-so was wearing on that one day 5 years ago, etc.

Then restrict the associates section to discussion of music and other professional work by people with some Prince connection, whether they were romantically entangled or not.


^^THIS
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Reply #48 posted 05/10/18 4:35pm

FlyOnTheWall

SoulAlive said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

SoulAlive, more people should start (and maintain) threads about what interests them. That is the only way to assure a more diverse selection of topics.

Good point,but I just think that there are too many “gossipy” threads in this forum and it’s always about the female protégés.A lot of these threads are about personal things that have nothing to do with their music.

The nature of Prince's music (the lyrics) make it virtually impossible to dissect them without talking about emotions and intimacy. Have you ever considered that? And, even when we try to talk about the music, there is a band of Orgers who are allowed to consistently veer the threads off topic with personal attacks and profanity.

For instance, there was an excellent Superconductor appreciation thread started by another Orger that was going very well. The focus was on lyrics, photos, interviews, and articles about the album...but once again, the lyrics are deeply personal and it's impossible to discuss them without talking about them relative to Prince and Andy's relationship. Still, I would say that 75-80 percent of that thread is/was about the lyrics, interviews, and pictures. Now, that thread has been removed. I'm told that it will be brought back, but all we can do is wait and see.

In the end, it is important to remember that different people have different interests. Some Orgers are musicians, so they crave threads about the technical aspects of Prince's music and musicianship. Others want to talk about the vault and upcoming releases. Still others are focused on estate matters, so they tend to head directly to those threads. Then there are those who want to talk and read about the investigation and the recent document dump.

Personally, I will sometimes dip into/lurk on threads about all of the topics I've mentioned, but I am most interested in Prince's final years and his last music, of which Andy Allo is a large part. Some are interested in the earlier years, the music and relationships, so they are more interested in Susannah, Vanity, Cat, etc. Then there are those who can't get enough information about his marriages and the music that they inspired. Thus, those Orgers are drawn to discussions about Mayte and Manuela.

Because of my primary interest level, the music and relationships from 2011-2016, I made the conscious choice to create threads and post information that I find noteworthy...and important...and engage in discussion with others with similar interests...which leaves little time for worrying about what is going down on those threads about which I'm less interested...and on which I seldom click. As a result, I am constantly bullied and ridiculed for, basically, staying in my lane. Do you think that is fair?

[Edited 5/10/18 17:15pm]

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Reply #49 posted 05/10/18 4:48pm

SoulAlive

disch said:

page 1 of this section has 7 andy allo threads


Yep,and that’s absurd.
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Reply #50 posted 05/10/18 4:58pm

rogifan

SoulAlive said:

This forum is a mess.There is too much focus on all the women that Prince slept with....too much tabloid garbage.

This.
Paisley Park is in your heart
#PrinceForever 💜
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Reply #51 posted 05/10/18 7:26pm

babynoz

SoulAlive said:

Let's get some more threads about Morris Day and The Time,Mazarati,Jesse Johnson,etc......where their music is being discussed and analyzed! Isn't that better than focusing on all the women that Prince slept with? hmmm



Agreed. I BEEN sick and tired of every turd these bobble heads drop on social media getting its own thread. lol


The only other time I saw this many damn catfights was when the biggest pimp in our old neighborhood died and his hoes were ALL trying to out-do each other at the funeral. True Story.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #52 posted 05/10/18 7:42pm

Krystalkisses

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anangellooksdown said:

By the way, all I will say was, that Prince was ONE SEXY MF. So you girls who’ve been dreaming... Keep doing so. He is JUST as u imagined. smile love love2 kisses hug oral

lol

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Reply #53 posted 05/10/18 8:01pm

Asenath

So bascially because people don't like the topic, the "powers that be" are now going to dictate what can and can't be discussed on the site? Although throughout various times in his career, Prince presented the persona of a sex symbol, and had women on display to promote this aspect of his persona; it's not to be discussed; and only the music is worthy of a thread? So it's better to censor thoughts and ideas that you may disagree with, then for people to just skip the threads which they find uninteresting/unworthy/stupid?

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Reply #54 posted 05/10/18 8:02pm

Asenath

SoulAlive said:

Let's get some more threads about Morris Day and The Time,Mazarati,Jesse Johnson,etc......where their music is being discussed and analyzed! Isn't that better than focusing on all the women that Prince slept with? hmmm

What/who's stopping you from starting such a thread?

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Reply #55 posted 05/10/18 8:22pm

SoulAlive

Asenath said:

So bascially because people don't like the topic, the "powers that be" are now going to dictate what can and can't be discussed on the site? Although throughout various times in his career, Prince presented the persona of a sex symbol, and had women on display to promote this aspect of his persona; it's not to be discussed; and only the music is worthy of a thread? So it's better to censor thoughts and ideas that you may disagree with, then for people to just skip the threads which they find uninteresting/unworthy/stupid?



but don’t you get tired of bickering about which woman was truly Prince’s “soulmate”? Or dissecting and analyzing a very personal letter that Andy sent to Prince? nuts
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Reply #56 posted 05/10/18 8:27pm

SoulAlive

Asenath said:



SoulAlive said:


Let's get some more threads about Morris Day and The Time,Mazarati,Jesse Johnson,etc.....where their music is being discussed and analyzed! Isn't that better than focusing on all the women that Prince slept with? hmmm




What/who's stopping you from starting such a thread?



I’ve done threads like that in the past but unfortunately,they get buried underneath all of the “gossip” threads confused I’ll try again,though.
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Reply #57 posted 05/10/18 8:28pm

disch

The moderators didn't say anything about "censoring thoughts and ideas." A few people (me included) posted our ideas about what should be done and they're pretty much all a variation of containing these repetitive girlfriend discussions to one thread, section, etc. Pretty similar to what the mods do now witih death-theory talk (direct it all to the one sticky and lock up any additional threads).

Asenath said:

So bascially because people don't like the topic, the "powers that be" are now going to dictate what can and can't be discussed on the site? Although throughout various times in his career, Prince presented the persona of a sex symbol, and had women on display to promote this aspect of his persona; it's not to be discussed; and only the music is worthy of a thread? So it's better to censor thoughts and ideas that you may disagree with, then for people to just skip the threads which they find uninteresting/unworthy/stupid?

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Reply #58 posted 05/10/18 8:45pm

SoulAlive

^^One sticky thread devoted to all the girlfriends is a great idea.That way,the forum won’t get flooded with a ton of gossipy/women threads.
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Reply #59 posted 05/10/18 9:16pm

pinkcashmere23

SoulAlive said:

^^One sticky thread devoted to all the girlfriends is a great idea.That way,the forum won’t get flooded with a ton of gossipy/women threads.

i think What rogifan proposed would work better.One thread per associate artist/woman. It would be confusing to discuss them all in one thread.

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