liljojo said:

At what point do we just stop judging and telling people how to mourn. We are all humans with different opinions and flaws. Tyka wasn't trying to bash her brother but was just explaining a little too bluntly for some the relationship she had with her big bro Prince Roger Nelson. She will never see him as a superstar because that's just her big brother. And all of y'all attacking her in your so-called attempt at protecting Prince, Prince would tell y'all off and almost fight you all for some of the rude comments you all are saying about her. Because that's his little sister, who you all know he was very protective and caring of.

This is the reason Prince isolated himself from fans & fanatics, because some people just go to far. Y'all really making her seem like she rejoiced when her brother died. And I'm not saying everybody on the board does this. Just only you all that feel entitled enough to think you should tell people how to act when a love one dies. But let someone attack y'all when your love one die the way you all have attacked Prince family and close friends. Y'all even attack the mods and good morals of faithful Prince followers when they correct y'all. If you don't like what she said that's fine and say that, but the name calling and degrading her isn't mature or something you all would lie done to you.

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Have you read the investigation files? When Tyka was questioned about Prince having a drug problem, she said NO, she never knew he had a problem or that he was sick. This is NOT what she said in her numerous interviews since Prince's death. How can you believe anything she is saying? Her brother died, and she talks like this? Sorry, no excuse for that.

cloveringold85 said:

liljojo said:

At what point do we just stop judging and telling people how to mourn. We are all humans with different opinions and flaws. Tyka wasn't trying to bash her brother but was just explaining a little too bluntly for some the relationship she had with her big bro Prince Roger Nelson. She will never see him as a superstar because that's just her big brother. And all of y'all attacking her in your so-called attempt at protecting Prince, Prince would tell y'all off and almost fight you all for some of the rude comments you all are saying about her. Because that's his little sister, who you all know he was very protective and caring of.

This is the reason Prince isolated himself from fans & fanatics, because some people just go to far. Y'all really making her seem like she rejoiced when her brother died. And I'm not saying everybody on the board does this. Just only you all that feel entitled enough to think you should tell people how to act when a love one dies. But let someone attack y'all when your love one die the way you all have attacked Prince family and close friends. Y'all even attack the mods and good morals of faithful Prince followers when they correct y'all. If you don't like what she said that's fine and say that, but the name calling and degrading her isn't mature or something you all would lie done to you.

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Have you read the investigation files? When Tyka was questioned about Prince having a drug problem, she said NO, she never knew he had a problem or that he was sick. This is NOT what she said in her numerous interviews since Prince's death. How can you believe anything she is saying? Her brother died, and she talks like this? Sorry, no excuse for that.

My brothers and sisters don't know everything about me especially stuff I didn't care to share or felt I can manage. Same goes for everybody with friends, sisters, brothers, mother, father, husband, wife, or any intimate relationship to you. Have your opinions in a respectful manner with truth, I have no problem with that. But the ones basically degrading her and saying how she should react to her brother passing is wrong. It's no way to fix because if this was vice versa, they would be angry. Again if Prince was still here he would have his little sister back no matter how crazy she speak of him. Because at the end of the day that's his sister no matter what and we all have family members like Tyka Nelson. All I'm asking is have a heart over judgement, because if we all was judged by our short comings and mistakes, then we all would be unworthy of compassion, love, understanding, and patience. Just be FAIR, and not so harsh. Everybody responds to death differently and all this attacking each other and looking for blame isn't going to change the fact that Prince is gone and we all will be leaving this flesh we in. So get y'all souls right and spread love to the ones you love dearly to your heart while they are still here before it's your time or their time to RIP.

FYI! I'm not responding to any post on this post because all I'm saying is have your opinions but do it respectfully and spread love because it's too much hate going around. And I don't want to live in times where violence is seen as love. We can't be adults spreading hateful attacks and lies and talk about the children like they just learned to be the way they are over night.

liljojo said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Have you read the investigation files? When Tyka was questioned about Prince having a drug problem, she said NO, she never knew he had a problem or that he was sick. This is NOT what she said in her numerous interviews since Prince's death. How can you believe anything she is saying? Her brother died, and she talks like this? Sorry, no excuse for that.

My brothers and sisters don't know everything about me especially stuff I didn't care to share or felt I can manage. Same goes for everybody with friends, sisters, brothers, mother, father, husband, wife, or any intimate relationship to you. Have your opinions in a respectful manner with truth, I have no problem with that. But the ones basically degrading her and saying how she should react to her brother passing is wrong. It's no way to fix because if this was vice versa, they would be angry. Again if Prince was still here he would have his little sister back no matter how crazy she speak of him. Because at the end of the day that's his sister no matter what and we all have family members like Tyka Nelson. All I'm asking is have a heart over judgement, because if we all was judged by our short comings and mistakes, then we all would be unworthy of compassion, love, understanding, and patience. Just be FAIR, and not so harsh. Everybody responds to death differently and all this attacking each other and looking for blame isn't going to change the fact that Prince is gone and we all will be leaving this flesh we in. So get y'all souls right and spread love to the ones you love dearly to your heart while they are still here before it's your time or their time to RIP.

FYI! I'm not responding to any post on this post because all I'm saying is have your opinions but do it respectfully and spread love because it's too much hate going around. And I don't want to live in times where violence is seen as love. We can't be adults spreading hateful attacks and lies and talk about the children like they just learned to be the way they are over night.

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But, she told the entire world that she knew Prince was dying for 3 years! She said the entire family knew. Who talks this way about a loved one is just beyond me!

cloveringold85 said:

But, she told the entire world that she knew Prince was dying for 3 years! She said the entire family knew. Who talks this way about a loved one is just beyond me!

My family and I. My grandma told all her kids ( my aunts, uncle, and mother), and blood sisters and brothers in 2006 she had 3yrs to live because she begged God to let her prepare us. And she told all of us grand-kids and great/great-great grand kids in 2007. We all ignored her or brushed it off and was like granny you going to live forever. I can't speak for my family members but I knew she was serious when I spent the night with her in 2008 and she laughed so hard at my jokes and my grandma is a serious church woman and no matter how funny my jokes was she never laughed but twice my entire life up until then. So I asked her, grandma are you really leaving us down here? And she cried yes. My grandma passed just like she said in 3yrs on September 2009 on her son birthday.

So in a religious family that is not abnormal. I feel the creator gives us signs and we either pay attention or ignore the signs, as that's our freewill to do so. My grandma told us to save our prayers, my great aunt told us not to pray for her, big momma told us to stop wasting our prayers on her, and the list goes on. When Prince said ‘Wait a few days before you waste your prayers on me’ , he knew his time was ending. Something in me tells me his last tour was a farewell intimate setting for all his fans. Prince always travels and tour with a band but this time he choose to just chill and go down memory lane one last time with his fans. He didn't know how to tell you all he was passing but he always gave his heart and love to you all through his music. If you pay attention to the last 3yrs you will see it and begin to cry because the signs was there.

Speaking from the heart cloveringold85; always leave understanding for those who you don't understand and at least try to understand them or agree to disagree with their actions in a tasteful respectful way without judging but with love. Tyka is acting like my mom babysister, she's really hurting for her brother because he ALWAYS took care of her. Pray for her because she's doing the best she can. Death always hit the younger siblings very hard, she has no parents and now no older brother. Keep her in prayer and know she means no ill will, her emotions is every where because she doesn't know how to explain what she's feeling and the media ain't helping her. Tyka is hurting deeply and instead of people asking for interviews and exploiting her and twisting her words, they should be giving her space to heal. Everybody isn't equipped to deal with the media and do interviews. Even Prince had a hard time with doing interviews and getting his points across due to the media editing and twisting his words to get views and sell magazines.

Mumio said:

benni said:

Again, she was stating this from the perspective of a 7 year old sister, wondering why her friends weren't going to go play, and were instead watching her 9 year old brother play the piano or guitar. As a 7 year old little girl, she was thinking, "He ain't no Michael Jackson, no Stevie Wonder. He's just Prince."

Of course, we view that statement as "Nah, man, he was PRINCE, no one compares to Prince." But to a 7 year old girl, looking at her 9 year old brother, "he ain't all that, he's just Prince." She could not even imagine what he would turn out to be as an adult. And even then, her opinion would always be colored by him being her big brother, having grown up with him, having had him baby sit her, having him pull pranks on her, argue with her, tell mom on her. She wasn't star struck by him, because she saw him as a very young boy, and toddled after him when she was a baby.

Finally, another voice of reason.

You all can't hear, later on in the video she specifically says "to this day she doesn't understand what the big deal is (about Prince). Or you all skip that part?

Astasheiks said:

Mumio said:

Finally, another voice of reason.

You all can't hear, later on in the video she specifically says "to this day she doesn't understand what the big deal is (about Prince). Or you all skip that part?

And you missed the part of my post that said:
"And even then, her opinion would always be colored by him being her big brother, having grown up with him, having had him baby sit her, having him pull pranks on her, argue with her, tell mom on her. She wasn't star struck by him, because she saw him as a very young boy, and toddled after him when she was a baby."

In another interview, Tyka stated that the NPG tribute performance was great, second best to Prince because no one is as good as Prince. She has complimented Prince's talent. That being said, I think Tyka is often trying to give interesting answers that express her mixed feelings and just ends up pissing off people. She needs to get a standard textbook for promotion. She needs to sell her brothers talents not use interviews as a way to express her complicated feelings about her brother.

liljojo said:

cloveringold85 said:

But, she told the entire world that she knew Prince was dying for 3 years! She said the entire family knew. Who talks this way about a loved one is just beyond me!

My family and I. My grandma told all her kids ( my aunts, uncle, and mother), and blood sisters and brothers in 2006 she had 3yrs to live because she begged God to let her prepare us. And she told all of us grand-kids and great/great-great grand kids in 2007. We all ignored her or brushed it off and was like granny you going to live forever. I can't speak for my family members but I knew she was serious when I spent the night with her in 2008 and she laughed so hard at my jokes and my grandma is a serious church woman and no matter how funny my jokes was she never laughed but twice my entire life up until then. So I asked her, grandma are you really leaving us down here? And she cried yes. My grandma passed just like she said in 3yrs on September 2009 on her son birthday.

So in a religious family that is not abnormal. I feel the creator gives us signs and we either pay attention or ignore the signs, as that's our freewill to do so. My grandma told us to save our prayers, my great aunt told us not to pray for her, big momma told us to stop wasting our prayers on her, and the list goes on. When Prince said ‘Wait a few days before you waste your prayers on me’ , he knew his time was ending. Something in me tells me his last tour was a farewell intimate setting for all his fans. Prince always travels and tour with a band but this time he choose to just chill and go down memory lane one last time with his fans. He didn't know how to tell you all he was passing but he always gave his heart and love to you all through his music. If you pay attention to the last 3yrs you will see it and begin to cry because the signs was there.

Speaking from the heart cloveringold85; always leave understanding for those who you don't understand and at least try to understand them or agree to disagree with their actions in a tasteful respectful way without judging but with love. Tyka is acting like my mom babysister, she's really hurting for her brother because he ALWAYS took care of her. Pray for her because she's doing the best she can. Death always hit the younger siblings very hard, she has no parents and now no older brother. Keep her in prayer and know she means no ill will, her emotions is every where because she doesn't know how to explain what she's feeling and the media ain't helping her. Tyka is hurting deeply and instead of people asking for interviews and exploiting her and twisting her words, they should be giving her space to heal. Everybody isn't equipped to deal with the media and do interviews. Even Prince had a hard time with doing interviews and getting his points across due to the media editing and twisting his words to get views and sell magazines.

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In the beginning, I tried to give Tyka the benefit of the doubt, but as the months wore on, she continued with her weird and cryptic comments. That's when I had to stop listening to her.

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You are entitled to your opinion, but I do not believe that Prince was preparing to leave this earth.

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I am a very understanding and compassionate person; you don't know me.

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I lost my mother and father, so I am very familar with death and loss. I understand that everyone processes their grief differently.

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I lose all respect for someone when they don't want to tell the truth. It's very sad, and Prince deserves better.

Astasheiks said:

Mumio said:

Finally, another voice of reason.

You all can't hear, later on in the video she specifically says "to this day she doesn't understand what the big deal is (about Prince). Or you all skip that part?

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I think Tyka has a hard time expressing herself, and this is why she should refrain from making comments to the press.

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I know Tyka is a bit odd, but I think she was just trying to say that to her, Prince was just her big brother. Of course she knows he was a huge rock star, but he was her brother.

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It's the same case with MJ and Janet -- at the end of the day, MJ was the bigger brother that used to pick on Janet.

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That's how I perceive it, anyways.

benni said:

Astasheiks said:

You all can't hear, later on in the video she specifically says "to this day she doesn't understand what the big deal is (about Prince). Or you all skip that part?

And you missed the part of my post that said:
"And even then, her opinion would always be colored by him being her big brother, having grown up with him, having had him baby sit her, having him pull pranks on her, argue with her, tell mom on her. She wasn't star struck by him, because she saw him as a very young boy, and toddled after him when she was a baby."

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purplerabbithole said:

In another interview, Tyka stated that the NPG tribute performance was great, second best to Prince because no one is as good as Prince. She has complimented Prince's talent. That being said, I think Tyka is often trying to give interesting answers that express her mixed feelings and just ends up pissing off people. She needs to get a standard textbook for promotion. She needs to sell her brothers talents not use interviews as a way to express her complicated feelings about her brother.

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Yes, and she spoke very highly of Prince regarding the Tribute in Australia. I agree; she needs to keep her statements consistent instead of being all over the place!

cloveringold85 said:

liljojo said:

My family and I. My grandma told all her kids ( my aunts, uncle, and mother), and blood sisters and brothers in 2006 she had 3yrs to live because she begged God to let her prepare us. And she told all of us grand-kids and great/great-great grand kids in 2007. We all ignored her or brushed it off and was like granny you going to live forever. I can't speak for my family members but I knew she was serious when I spent the night with her in 2008 and she laughed so hard at my jokes and my grandma is a serious church woman and no matter how funny my jokes was she never laughed but twice my entire life up until then. So I asked her, grandma are you really leaving us down here? And she cried yes. My grandma passed just like she said in 3yrs on September 2009 on her son birthday.

So in a religious family that is not abnormal. I feel the creator gives us signs and we either pay attention or ignore the signs, as that's our freewill to do so. My grandma told us to save our prayers, my great aunt told us not to pray for her, big momma told us to stop wasting our prayers on her, and the list goes on. When Prince said ‘Wait a few days before you waste your prayers on me’ , he knew his time was ending. Something in me tells me his last tour was a farewell intimate setting for all his fans. Prince always travels and tour with a band but this time he choose to just chill and go down memory lane one last time with his fans. He didn't know how to tell you all he was passing but he always gave his heart and love to you all through his music. If you pay attention to the last 3yrs you will see it and begin to cry because the signs was there.

Speaking from the heart cloveringold85; always leave understanding for those who you don't understand and at least try to understand them or agree to disagree with their actions in a tasteful respectful way without judging but with love. Tyka is acting like my mom babysister, she's really hurting for her brother because he ALWAYS took care of her. Pray for her because she's doing the best she can. Death always hit the younger siblings very hard, she has no parents and now no older brother. Keep her in prayer and know she means no ill will, her emotions is every where because she doesn't know how to explain what she's feeling and the media ain't helping her. Tyka is hurting deeply and instead of people asking for interviews and exploiting her and twisting her words, they should be giving her space to heal. Everybody isn't equipped to deal with the media and do interviews. Even Prince had a hard time with doing interviews and getting his points across due to the media editing and twisting his words to get views and sell magazines.

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In the beginning, I tried to give Tyka the benefit of the doubt, but as the months wore on, she continued with her weird and cryptic comments. That's when I had to stop listening to her.

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You are entitled to your opinion, but I do not believe that Prince was preparing to leave this earth.

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I am a very understanding and compassionate person; you don't know me.

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I lost my mother and father, so I am very familar with death and loss. I understand that everyone processes their grief differently.

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I lose all respect for someone when they don't want to tell the truth. It's very sad, and Prince deserves better.

The you don't know me, should be used also by Tyka towards you. See how that works? Never said I knew you but you got very offended for no reason. And we the same age guessing by your 85 at the end of your name. I'm 1985, 33 yrs old, so I know you know I didn't say you wasn't compassionate or understanding. I was just saying be more compassionate and understanding even when you don't understand. For all I know you're probably a beautiful hearted kind soul, I don't know. But everyone isn't strong or mentally equally stable as others or communicate like others. Different cultures is the reason for this and different upbringings. Look at the comments on here, they're very different some agreeing and some disagreeing with different point of views.

And FYI, "I lose all respect for someone when they don't want to tell the truth' I swear I just said that yesterday to my friend about the lying ass guy at 7 Eleven who never have the slurpees working and always say "The machine down". Lawd! I feel like your post is my karma because the same way you feel is how I felt when Latoya Jackson attacked MJ 1994, but trust me you're being nicer than me. So I understand how you feel, I'm not attacking you, just giving a different POV.

So are we cool?

benni said:

Astasheiks said:

You all can't hear, later on in the video she specifically says "to this day she doesn't understand what the big deal is (about Prince). Or you all skip that part?

And you missed the part of my post that said:
"And even then, her opinion would always be colored by him being her big brother, having grown up with him, having had him baby sit her, having him pull pranks on her, argue with her, tell mom on her. She wasn't star struck by him, because she saw him as a very young boy, and toddled after him when she was a baby."

That's right, fully agree with you benni.

liljojo said:

cloveringold85 said:

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In the beginning, I tried to give Tyka the benefit of the doubt, but as the months wore on, she continued with her weird and cryptic comments. That's when I had to stop listening to her.

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You are entitled to your opinion, but I do not believe that Prince was preparing to leave this earth.

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I am a very understanding and compassionate person; you don't know me.

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I lost my mother and father, so I am very familar with death and loss. I understand that everyone processes their grief differently.

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I lose all respect for someone when they don't want to tell the truth. It's very sad, and Prince deserves better.

The you don't know me, should be used also by Tyka towards you. See how that works? Never said I knew you but you got very offended for no reason. And we the same age guessing by your 85 at the end of your name. I'm 1985, 33 yrs old, so I know you know I didn't say you wasn't compassionate or understanding. I was just saying be more compassionate and understanding even when you don't understand. For all I know you're probably a beautiful hearted kind soul, I don't know. But everyone isn't strong or mentally equally stable as others or communicate like others. Different cultures is the reason for this and different upbringings. Look at the comments on here, they're very different some agreeing and some disagreeing with different point of views.

And FYI, "I lose all respect for someone when they don't want to tell the truth' I swear I just said that yesterday to my friend about the lying ass guy at 7 Eleven who never have the slurpees working and always say "The machine down". Lawd! I feel like your post is my karma because the same way you feel is how I felt when Latoya Jackson attacked MJ 1994, but trust me you're being nicer than me. So I understand how you feel, I'm not attacking you, just giving a different POV.

So are we cool?

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But, in your previous post, you were basically judging me, no?

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I wasn't born in 1985, so I'm a lot older than you!

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Tyka lied. She is not a trustworth person. If you read the investigation reports, you would know this! She clearly told detectives in the investigation that she did not know Prince was "sick" or had a "drug problem", but she went on social media and TV and told the entire world that Prince was "dying"..........do you not see anything dishonest about that.

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I'm not sheep and I'm not easily fooled. I am entitled to how I feel, and I'm done explaning.

I've said this a million times.......A WILL!! If he had've been more responsible about his estate, then someone else would be managing all of this. Perhaps he wanted his family to do it, but I think having a will would've been the right thing and would've made this entire process much easier.

Empress said:

I've said this a million times.......A WILL!! If he had've been more responsible about his estate, then someone else would be managing all of this. Perhaps he wanted his family to do it, but I think having a will would've been the right thing and would've made this entire process much easier.

a will is contestable....this way is NOT

luvsexy4all said:

a will is contestable....this way is NOT

We finally see eye to eye on something

I've always said I think there was no will because he didn't want one. Totally in keeping with how I see him.

cloveringold85 said:

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But, in your previous post, you were basically judging me, no?

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I wasn't born in 1985, so I'm a lot older than you!

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I'm not sheep and I'm not easily fooled. I am entitled to how I feel, and I'm done explaning.

No I wasn't judging you lol, honestly I wasn't. But now I am because I am curious to know why 85 is on your name. So you're not done explaining

And you didn't have to explain anything because I knew what you was saying, and I didn't explain that well enough. So since you're the oldest......I apologize if you felt I was judging you or attacking you in anyway. That wasn't my intention at heart. My intention was to explain even though I agree with you, I don't agree with others degrading her like trash. You didn't say anything that was degrading so that wasn't aimed at you, you believe she's a liar which is your tasteful opinion.

But seriously what's up with my birth year 85 lol? I have to know clover

liljojo said:

cloveringold85 said:

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But, in your previous post, you were basically judging me, no?

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I wasn't born in 1985, so I'm a lot older than you!

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I'm not sheep and I'm not easily fooled. I am entitled to how I feel, and I'm done explaning.

No I wasn't judging you lol, honestly I wasn't. But now I am because I am curious to know why 85 is on your name. So you're not done explaining

And you didn't have to explain anything because I knew what you was saying, and I didn't explain that well enough. So since you're the oldest......I apologize if you felt I was judging you or attacking you in anyway. That wasn't my intention at heart. My intention was to explain even though I agree with you, I don't agree with others degrading her like trash. You didn't say anything that was degrading so that wasn't aimed at you, you believe she's a liar which is your tasteful opinion.

But seriously what's up with my birth year 85 lol? I have to know clover

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That's cool. Thanks for saying that. I am a very compassionate and understanding person. I am one of the kindest people on the planet, and I'm not saying that to be cocky, it's the truth.

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I have nothing against the year, 1985. It was a very good year!! I am a 1985 High School graduate, if you must know! LOL

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Mumio said:

kmama07 said:

Mumio said:

We finally see eye to eye on something

I've always said I think there was no will because he didn't want one. Totally in keeping with how I see him.

I'll admit, in the beginning I thought "what kind of fool in his position wouldn't have his shit in order?" As time has gone on I'm now believing it was purposeful.

if u think he didnt trust his family....he didnt trust lawyers even more probably

cloveringold85 said:

midnightmover said:

Do you have trouble walking around with those rose tinted glasses? These sly little digs keep coming from her. If it makes you feel more comfortable to ignore it then fine, that's your prerogative. Her brother was a genius. But you'd never know it from listening to her speak now. There is no acknowledgement from her of that simple fact. She won't even say what song of his she likes the most.

As for MJ he never faced any trial for most of the boys who accused him. Jason Frascia was paid off. Jordan Chandler was paid off. Terry George never contacted the police. Wade Robson only came to terms with what MJ did to him in 2011 - after MJ had died. Jimmy Safechuck was about a year after that. Jane Doe - a boyish looking girl MJ also apparently molested only came out last year (she has shown a check written by MJ in 1993 for almost a million dollars, as well as love letters he wrote her and photos of them together back in the day).

It's quite amazing that we hear about how famous sexual abusers like R Kelly (who was also acquitted of molestation charges in the past) and Bill Cosby are being held to account now, yet the worst abuser of them all is still being protected.

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I agree with what you are saying about Tyka, but with regard to MJ, you are mistaken.

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The fact that those individuals who made those claims against MJ all took a cash settlement, speaks volumes about their shady character, and they are all liars.

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Let's keep this thread about Tyka, ok?

Like all MJ defenders you are remarkably oblivious to the facts. Some of MJ's victims took cash settlements. Others like Terry George (who is a millionaire in his own right) never asked for anything. When the police raided MJ's home in 2003 they found traces of his sperm on the bed alongside that of another unidentified male. They also found a nude photograph of one of MJ's young friends (believed to be this boy - Jonathan Spence)