206Michelle said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Yes,that is what I meant.She seemed to fall for him very quickly.I believe her lyrics for her song Time Heals All Wounds allude to that.They seem to tell the story of what happened with the relationship.They started out soaring and then crashed just as fast.The lyrics also seem to suggest that they may have broken up at one point and tried again.The chorus says:"I watched us soar,an innocence that came and went too soon and I watched us fall but time does heal all wounds" That was a bit soon to refer to him as the love of her life, I think but I guess that was how she felt at the time.

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Pink, can you post the lyrics for Time Heals All Wounds, please? I cannot find them via internet search.

You were a wild one through and through a black stallion and just like you

The doors were open and we like Moses parted the Red Sea and we were free

And I watched us soar an innocence that came and went to soon

And I watched us fall but time does heal all wounds

And we would say with our fists raised never be restrained

And there we lay unbridled joy and pain

Lighting struck twice and we like Romeo and Juliet we gave our lives

And I watched us soar an innocence that came and went too soon

And I watched us fall but time does heal all wounds

Cuz you keep coming around

Don't you know it's breaking me down

Cuz I keep giving my all

(chorus)

Is it true? Is it true?

That time does heal all wounds

Isn't it true that time does heal

pinkcashmere23 said:

206Michelle said:

pinkcashmere23 said: Pink, can you post the lyrics for Time Heals All Wounds, please? I cannot find them via internet search.

You were a wild one through and through a black stallion and just like you

The doors were open and we like Moses parted the Red Sea and we were free

And I watched us soar an innocence that came and went to soon

And I watched us fall but time does heal all wounds

And we would say with our fists raised never be restrained

And there we lay unbridled joy and pain

Lighting struck twice and we like Romeo and Juliet we gave our lives

And I watched us soar an innocence that came and went too soon

And I watched us fall but time does heal all wounds

Cuz you keep coming around

Don't you know it's breaking me down

Cuz I keep giving my all

(chorus)

Is it true? Is it true?

That time does heal all wounds

Isn't it true that time does heal

Thanks for posting these, Pink. These are quite deep, poetic lyrics. It sounds like the song does not have a typical structure (verse 1, chorus, verse 2, chorus, bridge, chorus). "It's breaking me down sounds" like a reference to P's "The Breakdown" to me. Do you know when she recorded Time Heals All Wounds? (The only album of hers that is on Tidal is Superconductor.)

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206Michelle said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

You were a wild one through and through a black stallion and just like you

The doors were open and we like Moses parted the Red Sea and we were free

And I watched us soar an innocence that came and went to soon

And I watched us fall but time does heal all wounds

And we would say with our fists raised never be restrained

And there we lay unbridled joy and pain

Lighting struck twice and we like Romeo and Juliet we gave our lives

And I watched us soar an innocence that came and went too soon

And I watched us fall but time does heal all wounds

Cuz you keep coming around

Don't you know it's breaking me down

Cuz I keep giving my all

Is it true? Is it true?

That time does heal all wounds

Isn't it true that time does heal

Thanks for posting these, Pink. These are quite deep, poetic lyrics. It sounds like the song does not have a typical structure (verse 1, chorus, verse 2, chorus, bridge, chorus). "It's breaking me down sounds" like a reference to P's "The Breakdown" to me. Do you know when she recorded Time Heals All Wounds? (The only album of hers that is on Tidal is Superconductor.)

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You're welcome. I agree. The song is unreleased but she performed it a few times for Music Monday last year.She first performed it in early 2014 and said last year that it would be on her next album along with a newer song Dandelion but she released the EP One Step Closer instead,opting not to include them. I also wondered if that line was a reference to Breakdown.

pinkcashmere23 said:

Krystalkisses said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

He did appear to be studying the topic of endogamy for some reason while in Montreal.Based on some of the books he had been reading, he seemed to still be interested in studying the topic of matrilenial ancestry and the role women played in a matrilenial society.Afrikan Matriarchal Foundations and In Praise Of Black Women:Ancient African Queens were in his collection.

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I think that is very telling then of where his interests/passions were and the women he was interested in being with then.

I agree.

benni said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Wow, benni, I'm taken aback by your "silliness" and "ridiculous" remarks. I didn't expect that from you. At any rate, please point out, with quotes, where anyone said on this thread, or otherwise, that Prince "only got interested [in the subject of lineage] when he met Andy." And, again, who said that Prince was "studying this subject up until 2016 with hopes of going back and marrying Andy?" It's amazing how many Orgers come up with these broad conclusions based on much more limited premises. Lastly, thanks for sharing "what it looks like" to you; however, I have a different view, which is often the case when you have two thinking people considering the same set of facts. In this instance, I hope we can respectfully agree to disagree.

Hey Fly, the silliness comment was directed at the idea that Prince only got interested in lineage after meeting Andy. The ridiculous comment was in regards to an idea that Prince was continued to study this subject up towards his passing and any idea that someone might hold that it was to go back and marry Andy. My point was simply that if he had originally been studying this subject when he was with Andy, thinking of marriage to her, then he would not have continued to study this subject well into 2016, after he and Andy were no longer an item.

Prince has always been interested in lineage, especially as it relates to African Americans. I highly doubt that he simply started studying this subject because he and Andy were together and he was thinking of marrying her, as has been implied in this thread.

Back in the Love4OneAnother days, he wrote about names and their importance:

http://princeonlinemuseum.../rose.html

But as you can see from the old website, Prince has always studied very deep subjects, and pondered interesting questions, so I can imagine him studying many different subjects related lineage and marriages, especially since it seems towards the end of his life he became more introspective related to his own personal family. Such as dedicating the P&M concerts to his dad, as stated in the P&M tour books, and talking about memories from long ago.

Benni, to your point about Prince's interest in his lineage, my understanding is that much of his memoir addresses his family's history.

206Michelle said:

benni said:

Hey Fly, the silliness comment was directed at the idea that Prince only got interested in lineage after meeting Andy. The ridiculous comment was in regards to an idea that Prince was continued to study this subject up towards his passing and any idea that someone might hold that it was to go back and marry Andy. My point was simply that if he had originally been studying this subject when he was with Andy, thinking of marriage to her, then he would not have continued to study this subject well into 2016, after he and Andy were no longer an item.

Prince has always been interested in lineage, especially as it relates to African Americans. I highly doubt that he simply started studying this subject because he and Andy were together and he was thinking of marrying her, as has been implied in this thread.

Back in the Love4OneAnother days, he wrote about names and their importance:

http://princeonlinemuseum.../rose.html

But as you can see from the old website, Prince has always studied very deep subjects, and pondered interesting questions, so I can imagine him studying many different subjects related lineage and marriages, especially since it seems towards the end of his life he became more introspective related to his own personal family. Such as dedicating the P&M concerts to his dad, as stated in the P&M tour books, and talking about memories from long ago.

Benni, to your point about Prince's interest in his lineage, my understanding is that much of his memoir addresses his family's history.

Any theories on why Prince was apparently researching "endogamy," which is a form of marriage between people of different religions, cultures, etc...and which is strongly discouraged by Jehovah's Witnesses.

FlyOnTheWall said:

206Michelle said:

Benni, to your point about Prince's interest in his lineage, my understanding is that much of his memoir addresses his family's history.

Any theories on why Prince was apparently researching "endogamy," which is a form of marriage between people of different religions, cultures, etc...and which is strongly discouraged by Jehovah's Witnesses.

Fly, my understanding is that endogamy means "the custom of marrying only within the limits of a local community, clan, or tribe".

206Michelle said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Any theories on why Prince was apparently researching "endogamy," which is a form of marriage between people of different religions, cultures, etc...and which is strongly discouraged by Jehovah's Witnesses.

Fly, my understanding is that endogamy means "the custom of marrying only within the limits of a local community, clan, or tribe".

Yes,the JWs are considered an endogamous religion but I believe they are able to marry outside of the faith although it's not encouraged. When Prince tweeted about Andy,I noticed that some people in his faith would send messages with Bible verses warning him against associating with her.

206Michelle said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Any theories on why Prince was apparently researching "endogamy," which is a form of marriage between people of different religions, cultures, etc...and which is strongly discouraged by Jehovah's Witnesses.

Fly, my understanding is that endogamy means "the custom of marrying only within the limits of a local community, clan, or tribe".

You're right, pink!! In my haste, I stated what is actually the opposite of endogamy, which is exogamy. Good catch! Thanks!!

FlyOnTheWall said:

206Michelle said:

Fly, my understanding is that endogamy means "the custom of marrying only within the limits of a local community, clan, or tribe".

You're right, pink!! In my haste, I stated what is actually the opposite of endogamy, which is exogamy. Good catch! Thanks!!

You're welcome! I think some of the songs he released on the last few albums suggests that he did have marriage to someone in mind. I'm curious about when he wrote songs such as This Could B Us,Breakdown,June and Revelation.

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pinkcashmere23 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

You're right, pink!! In my haste, I stated what is actually the opposite of endogamy, which is exogamy. Good catch! Thanks!!

You're welcome! I think some of the songs he released on the last few albums suggests that he did have marriage to someone in mind. I'm curious about when he wrote songs such as This Could B Us,Breakdown,June and Revelation.

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FlyOnTheWall said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

You're welcome! I think some of the songs he released on the last few albums suggests that he did have marriage to someone in mind. I'm curious about when he wrote songs such as This Could B Us,Breakdown,June and Revelation.

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I guess only those close to him at the time might know, like how Andy revealed that Time was written with her at Paisley.She also said in her FB chat in October of 2013 that he may have written some songs about her but we would probably never get to hear them.

pinkcashmere23 said:

206Michelle said:

Fly, my understanding is that endogamy means "the custom of marrying only within the limits of a local community, clan, or tribe".

Yes,the JWs are considered an endogamous religion but I believe they are able to marry outside of the faith although it's not encouraged. When Prince tweeted about Andy,I noticed that some people in his faith would send messages with Bible verses warning him against associating with her.

but wouldnt the "bi " thing also get in the way?

luvsexy4all said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Yes,the JWs are considered an endogamous religion but I believe they are able to marry outside of the faith although it's not encouraged. When Prince tweeted about Andy,I noticed that some people in his faith would send messages with Bible verses warning him against associating with her.

but wouldnt the "bi " thing also get in the way?

I don't understand your question. Could you please restate it?

FlyOnTheWall said:

anangellooksdown said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

You're right, pink!! In my haste, I stated what is actually the opposite of endogamy, which is exogamy. Good catch! Thanks!!

Given what Elisa Fiorillo said in her most recent interview about Prince pointing out that her daughter’s whole birthday party was Caucasian,and all of his active efforts in the black movement those last year’s especially, it is very likely that Prince was reading about people marrying within their ethnic “tribe”.

Yes it looks like he was likely studying the Nagas of ancient India.

anangellooksdown said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

You're right, pink!! In my haste, I stated what is actually the opposite of endogamy, which is exogamy. Good catch! Thanks!!

Given what Elisa Fiorillo said in her most recent interview about Prince pointing out that her daughter’s whole birthday party was Caucasian,and all of his active efforts in the black movement those last year’s especially, it is very likely that Prince was reading about people marrying within their ethnic “tribe”.

Wow. That's a stretch. You are actually trying to connect Prince's alleged remarks about a child's birthday party to his apparent research on marriage.

FlyOnTheWall said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

anangellooksdown said:

FlyOnTheWall said: Given what Elisa Fiorillo said in her most recent interview about Prince pointing out that her daughter’s whole birthday party was Caucasian,and all of his active efforts in the black movement those last year’s especially, it is very likely that Prince was reading about people marrying within their ethnic “tribe”.

Wow. That's a stretch. You are actually trying to connect Prince's alleged remarks about a child's birthday party to his apparent research on marriage.

The fact that he wrote the lyrics "how can you be everybody's dream and still be somebody's wife" in JUNE seems to indicate that he may have been considering marriage to someone.I'd like to know when it was written.

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Apparently, Josh Welton was interviewed by the BBC and he confirmed that" June "was recorded at Paisley Park in June, 2015. Could Prince have been referring to Andy Allo when he mentioned "How can you be everybody's dream and still somebody's wife? You are off somewhere being free, while I starve in the lonesome cold? Our bodies got used to each other..." Who else was he that intimate with after they "split"? I know they were having difficulties but continued to see each other sporadically.

peggyon said:

Apparently, Josh Welton was interviewed by the BBC and he confirmed that" June "was recorded at Paisley Park in June, 2015. Could Prince have been referring to Andy Allo when he mentioned "How can you be everybody's dream and still somebody's wife? You are off somewhere being free, while I starve in the lonesome cold? Our bodies got used to each other..." Who else was he that intimate with after they "split"? I know they were having difficulties but continued to see each other sporadically.

Thank you, peggyon!! I definitely believe he was referring to Andy, who I believe definitely wanted marriage.

peggyon said:

Apparently, Josh Welton was interviewed by the BBC and he confirmed that" June "was recorded at Paisley Park in June, 2015. Could Prince have been referring to Andy Allo when he mentioned "How can you be everybody's dream and still somebody's wife? You are off somewhere being free, while I starve in the lonesome cold? Our bodies got used to each other..." Who else was he that intimate with after they "split"? I know they were having difficulties but continued to see each other sporadically.

Thanks for the info peggyon. I was not aware of that interview. I think it's possible that he was referring to Andy.

peggyon said:

Apparently, Josh Welton was interviewed by the BBC and he confirmed that" June "was recorded at Paisley Park in June, 2015. Could Prince have been referring to Andy Allo when he mentioned "How can you be everybody's dream and still somebody's wife? You are off somewhere being free, while I starve in the lonesome cold? Our bodies got used to each other..." Who else was he that intimate with after they "split"? I know they were having difficulties but continued to see each other sporadically.

Source: http://princevault.com/in...title=June

206Michelle said:

peggyon said:

Apparently, Josh Welton was interviewed by the BBC and he confirmed that" June "was recorded at Paisley Park in June, 2015. Could Prince have been referring to Andy Allo when he mentioned "How can you be everybody's dream and still somebody's wife? You are off somewhere being free, while I starve in the lonesome cold? Our bodies got used to each other..." Who else was he that intimate with after they "split"? I know they were having difficulties but continued to see each other sporadically.

Source: http://princevault.com/in...title=June

Thanks 206Michelle. I wasn't aware that he recorded both songs so close to the release of Phase 1. I'm curious when they were written.Andy has said in a few interviews that a lot of the songs they worked on and wrote together ended up on the last few albums so I wonder how much knowledge she has of the writing and recording process.I learned something new about Josh in that interview.I didn't know that Count Basie was his uncle.

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pinkcashmere23 said:

206Michelle said:

Source: http://princevault.com/in...title=June

Thanks 206Michelle. I wasn't aware that he recorded both songs so close to the release of Phase 1. I'm curious when they were written.Andy has said in a few interviews that a lot of the songs they worked on and wrote together ended up on the last few albums so I wonder how much knowledge she has of the writing and recording process.

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I would love for Andy to share what she knows about Prince's music from the last 5 years of his life. The same goes for Josh and other associates who have "inside information" about his music from this period.

206Michelle said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Thanks 206Michelle. I wasn't aware that he recorded both songs so close to the release of Phase 1. I'm curious when they were written.Andy has said in a few interviews that a lot of the songs they worked on and wrote together ended up on the last few albums so I wonder how much knowledge she has of the writing and recording process.

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I would love for Andy to share what she knows about Prince's music from the last 5 years of his life. The same goes for Josh and other associates who have "inside information" about his music from this period.

I would too. Hannah shared a little about the 3rd Eye Girl projects during her first FB Live and I enjoyed that but she didn't go into great detail about the writing and recording process. Andy has also shared a little bit in her FB Q&A's about the writing of some of the songs on Superconductor,their duets and the Oui Can Luv project.