purplethunder3121 said:

I don't know why, but this photo reminds me of a concert I went to with my son and he saw Prince with a woman with a natural fro that night (not performing) and said, "Is that Andy Allo?" It turns out that the lady friend that night was Esmeralda Spaulding...

Beautiful photo of Esperanza! She and Andy did favor when Andy had the fro.Some thought that Andy was her when she performed for the first time with Prince at the Troubadour in 2011.

Sigh. Pink, do what you like. I hope that your compensation (literal, figurative, who knows) for your posts on this topic is adequate for the time and effort you're commiting to it, and that your posting schedule allows you are appropriate time for sleep and other activities (such as, I don't know, listening to Prince).

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pinkcashmere23 said:

disch said:

Pink, you don't need to respond to a post and include the same gigantic images (which we've all seen a bunch of times) in your replies. Just delete the photos.

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And seriously -- I'm not going to repeat this because I know there's no effect (there's no stopping you and the 2 other posters when it comes to Andy Allo; your stamina for posting about her has no apparant limit). But you sound like a 12 year old! Picking apart photo after photo to compare their jewelry or whatever? (And if you are 12 years old, I apologize. I'm not trying to make fun of a child.)

I have no interest in picking apart jewelry nor debating about what woman Prince loved more.I was merely pointing out some details concerning a relationship that was seemingly long over.As for the photos,my computer is barely functioning at the moment and is doing good to type,let alone worry about deleting photos from posts.It seems to bother you that I like Andy and that I enjoyed their work relationship.I like several of the women that Prince worked with and dated and if you look in the Mayte and Mani threads,you will see that I have posted several comments in their favor as well.

disch said:

Sigh. Pink, do what you like. I hope that your compensation (literal, figurative, who knows) for your posts on this topic is adequate for the time and effort you're commiting to it, and that your posting schedule allows you are appropriate time for sleep and other activities (such as, I don't know, listening to Prince).

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pinkcashmere23 said:

I have no interest in picking apart jewelry nor debating about what woman Prince loved more.I was merely pointing out some details concerning a relationship that was seemingly long over.As for the photos,my computer is barely functioning at the moment and is doing good to type,let alone worry about deleting photos from posts.It seems to bother you that I like Andy and that I enjoyed their work relationship.I like several of the women that Prince worked with and dated and if you look in the Mayte and Mani threads,you will see that I have posted several comments in their favor as well.

I,like several other of Prince's fans like Andy and I love the songs that they wrote together such as Time,What It Feels Like,1000 Light Years,U Will B and RNRLA,the songs on Superconductor as well as their beautiful acoustic album Oui Can Luv. I have no agenda,nor am I being paid.Prince tweeted about Andy and her projects more than I ever will and I have no desire to do that to be honest but he obviously did for some reason.Actually I did listen to Prince all day today mixed in with a little Andy too of course.I'm listening to Oui Can Luv at the moment.

pinkcashmere23 said:

purplethunder3121 said:

I don't know why, but this photo reminds me of a concert I went to with my son and he saw Prince with a woman with a natural fro that night (not performing) and said, "Is that Andy Allo?" It turns out that the lady friend that night was Esmeralda Spaulding...

Beautiful photo of Esperanza! She and Andy did favor when Andy had the fro.Some thought that Andy was her when she performed for the first time with Prince at the Troubadour in 2011.

I still think that Prince got the idea to wear a natural fro from both Andy and (oops!) sorry I mispelled her name--Esperanza. Loved it but thought he was better suited to the low fro. I did, by the way, see Esperanza open for Prince in New Jersey with my son and she was excellent. I'm glad she has had so much recognition for her talent.

I'm enjoying this measured, reasonable discussion about Andy Allo and Prince!

purplethunder3121 said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Beautiful photo of Esperanza! She and Andy did favor when Andy had the fro.Some thought that Andy was her when she performed for the first time with Prince at the Troubadour in 2011.

I still think that Prince got the idea to wear a natural fro from both Andy and (oops!) sorry I mispelled her name--Esperanza. Loved it but thought he was better suited to the low fro. I did, by the way, see Esperanza open for Prince in New Jersey with my son and she was excellent. I'm glad she has had so much recognition for her talent.

I think so too! Kim mentioned Esperanza along with Andy in the first interview that she did with Michael Dean as one of the ladies he was hanging around back then who influenced his decision to go natural. You and your son are very lucky to have seen Esperanza in concert! I became aware of her when Prince had her perform with him in Vegas and I became interested in her music after that.She is incredibly talented!

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Ah, good tactic to list the names of specific songs and her album title. That could help this thread come up in search engines for those terms, which can potentially increase the total view count (a metric that I know you value).

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Hopefully Fly will be back soon and you guys can split posting duties! The schedule seems tough for one person to maintain; I do recognize the effort that you're applying to it!

pinkcashmere23 said:

disch said:

Sigh. Pink, do what you like. I hope that your compensation (literal, figurative, who knows) for your posts on this topic is adequate for the time and effort you're commiting to it, and that your posting schedule allows you are appropriate time for sleep and other activities (such as, I don't know, listening to Prince).

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I,like several other of Prince's fans like Andy and I love the songs that they wrote together such as Time,What It Feels Like,1000 Light Years,U Will B and RNRLA,the songs on Superconductor as well as their beautiful acoustic album Oui Can Luv. I have no agenda,nor am I being paid.Prince tweeted about Andy and her projects more than I ever will and I have no desire to do that to be honest but he obviously did for some reason.Actually I did listen to Prince all day today mixed in with a little Andy too of course.I'm listening to Oui Can Luv at the moment.

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206Michelle said:

I'm enjoying this measured, reasonable discussion about Andy Allo and Prince!

Anything you would like to add?

disch said:

Ah, good tactic to list the names of specific songs and her album title. That could help this thread come up in search engines for those terms, which can potentially increase the total view count (a metric that I know you value).

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Hopefully Fly will be back soon and you guys can split posting duties! The schedule seems tough for one person to maintain; I do recognize the effort that you're applying to it!

pinkcashmere23 said:

I,like several other of Prince's fans like Andy and I love the songs that they wrote together such as Time,What It Feels Like,1000 Light Years,U Will B and RNRLA,the songs on Superconductor as well as their beautiful acoustic album Oui Can Luv. I have no agenda,nor am I being paid.Prince tweeted about Andy and her projects more than I ever will and I have no desire to do that to be honest but he obviously did for some reason.Actually I did listen to Prince all day today mixed in with a little Andy too of course.I'm listening to Oui Can Luv at the moment.

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Actually,I thought I'd just mention some of my favorite songs of theirs. Judging from Andy's 1000's of supporters,it's funny that you seem to think that she needs us to help in the promotion of her projects.Andy has more than a few fans.As I said in an earlier post,other than information on the recording and writing process of their music collaborations,I have little interest in what was going on behind the scenes of their relationship.I am content with the little stories and details that Andy has shared of their time together.Whatever happened between them,they both seemed to move past it and at least appeared to be friendly toward one another at the end. Andy shared that they wrote and recorded several songs together so there may be more music of theirs in the vault or in Andy's possession.Maybe they will be heard some day if that is the case.I wonder if she would be able to release any of the songs like Mr.Bravestrong herself.

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Disch, you made some good points but now you are just ragging on people for no good reason...

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eh you're right. I'm outta here.

purplethunder3121 said:

Disch, you made some good points but now you are just ragging on people for no good reason...

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anangellooksdown said:

Honestly, of all the women we saw Prince spend a lot of time around, I don’t think he EVER had one who was totally authentic and sincere about him. There was always some kind of self-serving motive involved. That must’ve sucked for him. Then again, he chose them. And that’s a whole other story. Maybe it’s why he changed later on. People on the Org think Judith Hill isn’t relevant. She is. She is the example of his growth. [Edited 4/18/18 5:32am]

BAM !

sharpieheartz said:

Also, Prince & The NPG in Helsinki:

https://get.google.com/albumarchive/108012573054204797021/album/AF1QipOVF8ysNtKPccYegCHAKkHTMdIVpH9MBKJztlN_

I've never seen those photos before. Thanks!

https://theblast.com/prince-love-letter-andy-allo/

Lovejunky said:

https://theblast.com/prince-love-letter-andy-allo/

What a sweet, innocent letter. It's a shame it was released to the public.

FlyOnTheWall said:

Lovejunky said:

https://theblast.com/prince-love-letter-andy-allo/

What a sweet, innocent letter. It's a shame it was released to the public.

Yeah,the media sites shouldn't have made a story out of it.It would have probably gone unnoticed if they hadn't. It was so long ago,Andy may have forgotten that she had even written it and may have been surprised that Prince still had it.It's being passed around on Prince FB Groups.

pinkcashmere23 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

What a sweet, innocent letter. It's a shame it was released to the public.

Yeah,the media sites shouldn't have made a story out of it.It would have probably gone unnoticed if they hadn't. It was so long ago,Andy may have forgotten that she had even written it and may have been surprised that Prince still had it.It's being passed around on Prince FB Groups.

I agree with everything you said, pink, except this: I seriously doubt that Andy had forgotten writing this letter. Some things you just never forget.

FlyOnTheWall said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Yeah,the media sites shouldn't have made a story out of it.It would have probably gone unnoticed if they hadn't. It was so long ago,Andy may have forgotten that she had even written it and may have been surprised that Prince still had it.It's being passed around on Prince FB Groups.

I agree with everything you said, pink, except this: I seriously doubt that Andy had forgotten writing this letter. Some things you just never forget.

Very true. She most likely was not expecting to see it again or have it brought back to her in such a jarring way though.

Aw...a sweet note...Part of me is sad that thier privacy was invaded by publishing this note and also Kim Berry mentioning he & AA dating is what prompted him to go natural with the baby 'fro, but part of me is glad that the folks who simply couldn't accept that there was a relationship between AA & P will be able to...well, whatever they'll do...Anyway, confirmation is nice...

LBrent said:

endiadj said:

LBrent said:

Aw...a sweet note...Part of me is sad that thier privacy was invaded by publishing this note and also Kim Berry mentioning he & AA dating is what prompted him to go natural with the baby 'fro, but part of me is glad that the folks who simply couldn't accept that there was a relationship between AA & P will be able to...well, whatever they'll do...Anyway, confirmation is nice...

Well, I don't forgive her for that part...😂

Aw, the lil baby 'fro looked so shiny, soft and cute...What it morphed into...well...hmmm...not so much...it often looked unwieldy...yet, oddly, still somehow higher on the P-hairstyle ladder than the big typhoon with fingerwave sideburns of "Victor" for me...Um...Ew...Although P gets a pass from me on that era cuz the music and fashion were swoonworthy...P often giveth with one hand and taketh awayeth with the othereth...[Le sigh]

LBrent said:

endiadj said:

LBrent said: Well, I don't forgive her for that part...😂

Aw, the lil baby 'fro looked so shiny, soft and cute...What it morphed into...well...hmmm...not so much...it often looked unwieldy...yet, oddly, still somehow higher on the P-hairstyle ladder than the big typhoon with fingerwave sideburns of "Victor" for me...Um...Ew...Although P gets a pass from me on that era cuz the music and fashion were swoonworthy...P often giveth with one hand and taketh awayeth with the othereth...[Le sigh]

I loved the baby 'fro, too. LBrent, you're funny!

Lovejunky said:

anangellooksdown said:

Honestly, of all the women we saw Prince spend a lot of time around, I don’t think he EVER had one who was totally authentic and sincere about him. There was always some kind of self-serving motive involved. That must’ve sucked for him. Then again, he chose them. And that’s a whole other story. Maybe it’s why he changed later on. People on the Org think Judith Hill isn’t relevant. She is. She is the example of his growth. [Edited 4/18/18 5:32am]

BAM !

I've not seen Judith Hill referred to as irrelevant; however, many have opined that Prince was not romantically involved with her. Kirk Johnson confirmed that belief in his police interview.

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KoolEaze said:

Great thread....so many links!

I liked her influence on Prince. He wrote some nice songs during his time with her and looked happy most of the time. If she hadn´t been part of the band people here would probably have more positive things to say about her. I like her raspy voice and her version of We Can Funk....wish they had adapted the lyrics a bit more so that they make more sense when sung by a lady.

I also like the song she did with House musician Miguel Migs. (This Feeling). Really cool song.

I find it troubling that you believe a man (kirk johnson) over a woman's OWN description of her OWN life/relationship. Very strange.

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Now, you and I are very different. I don't really care about who Prince was dating when; I'm a fan of his because of his music, not because I like to moon over what I imagine his romantic/sex life was like (I did plenty of that kind of thing with celebs I liked when I was in the 12 - 15 year old age range, but thankfully, like most healthy people, I grew up and out of that).

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But assuming a woman is lying about her own life because a man contradicts her? You should give that some thought.

FlyOnTheWall said:

Lovejunky said:

BAM !

I've not seen Judith Hill referred to as irrelevant; however, many have opined that Prince was not romantically involved with her. Kirk Johnson confirmed that belief in his police interview.

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disch said:

I find it troubling that you believe a man (kirk johnson) over a woman's OWN description of her OWN life/relationship. Very strange.

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Now, you and I are very different. I don't really care about who Prince was dating when; I'm a fan of his because of his music, not because I like to moon over what I imagine his romantic/sex life was like (I did plenty of that kind of thing with celebs I liked when I was in the 12 - 15 year old age range, but thankfully, like most healthy people, I grew up and out of that).

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But assuming a woman is lying about her own life because a man contradicts her? You should give that some thought.

FlyOnTheWall said:

I've not seen Judith Hill referred to as irrelevant; however, many have opined that Prince was not romantically involved with her. Kirk Johnson confirmed that belief in his police interview.

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You might not have read this entire thread--who am I kidding, of course, you have!! --but, Kirk's statement is only one reason I don't think Prince was romantically involved with JH. That is my opinion, to which I am entitled. Others are just as entitled to theirs.

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FlyOnTheWall said:

anangellooksdown said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

You might not have read this entire thread--who am I kidding, of course, you have!! --but, Kirk's statement is only one reason I don't think Prince was romantically involved with JH. That is my opinion, to which I am entitled. Others are just as entitled to theirs.

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Yet somehow, your opinions are forced on people by - this time - insisting that 5 threads about Andy Allo are kept at the top of this forum at all times. That goes directly against what OF4S instructed you to do when you asked him... which was to keep it all in this one thread. Andcthis nust after you were given a “vacation”? [Edited 5/2/18 20:38pm]

Are you a moderator, too, angel? BTW, why don't you initiate a thread about something that interests you.

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**Duplicate**

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Fly you should take a break and get some sleep. In the days since you were permitted back on the site after you were banned, you've returned to binge-posting itinerary. I know you like to keep up a specific schedule of posting as part of your strategy, but your own health should be your priority (hell if we learned anything from prince's sad end, it's that!). These Andy Allo threads will still be here after you get some rest, spend time with your friends and family, etc -- I promise (well i guess i can't promise that; I don't know what a moderator might do).

FlyOnTheWall said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Are you a moderator, too, angel? BTW, why don't you initiate a thread about something that interests you.