Mumio said:

PennyPurple said:

Well did you see the huge celebration that they are having, and they plan to have every year around his death anniversary?

Sure did!

It's a fucking travesty is what it is, especially certain relatives who are using their relation as reason for reaching for their piece of the pie This celebration thing is gonna be a side show before long, and they will never get a dime from me, especially if certain people are there

Shit, they can't even sell out that Target Center show, it's a freaking deal on Groupon in an effort to move those tickets

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I'm with you; I don't like this shit, not one tiny bit!!

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Wow, I can't believe that about the Target show!

purplerabbithole said:

But this particular associate is not selling her own wares right now. We are not discussing mayte's singing voice or looks or dancing moves or songwriting ability or acting ability--qualities he advocated for her while they were together and did nothing to impede after they were apart. . In a way she has done herself a disservice by revealing her woes where Prince is concerned and appearing on two reality shows revolving around either ex's or current love interests. . When we talk about her, we talk about Prince too. But in reality, he is the main attraction in her story but unfortunately due to the one-sided nature of this stuff, he is also the villian. He is like Heath Ledger in the Dark Knight...the story is about Batman but really we all want to know about is the Joker because the actor playing the Joker gave more effort artistically and is a villian we love to hate. And this particular episode of Batman is found on the Joker's fan community (under Joker's Enemies.) Mayte, I do believe, has talent but she seemed to want fame more than an artistic life after the divorce. I know its a tough industry for women and sometimes you just need the attention to get your foot in the door and I know she has tried to work as a choreographer and actor. But her reality show and biography are overshadowing any of that and Idon't think they are necessarily helping even if she is getting more clients in her dance lessons. She would have been smarter to hold off delving into their personal lives, put the focus on her influences on his work, and used the personal stuff like a carrot to dangle in the faces of the industry.

NotACleverName said:

Mumio said: Well, here's the thing, Mumio....while you are indeed correct in stating that this forum is "about Prince", he was a complete man and led a full life and, by all accounts, enjoyed all aspects of that full life (sex, marriage, dating, friendship, collaborating professionally/personally, etc.) and the forum reflects that. Perhaps you have not noticed that you are posting in the sub forum titled "Associated Artists & People". You know, the place designated specifically to discuss those "associates" of Prince. So that you are clear, I am including a definition of the aforementioned: noun plural noun: associates əˈsōSHēət/ 1.a partner or colleague in business or at work. "he arranged for a close associate to take control of the institute" synonyms: partner, colleague, coworker, workmate, comrade, ally, affiliate, confederate; connection, contact, acquaintance; collaborator; informal crony; informal peeps "his business associate" I chose not to include the definition of "people" as I presume you are clear on that. Perhaps I presume too much? Just in case, that would be any human Prince associated with, whether in a professional or personal capacity, during his lifetime. Btw....the moniker Mom fits. [Edited 4/10/18 18:27pm]

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I think Mayte should have held-off on releasing her book. I did not like the fact that she released it on the one-year anniversary of Prince's death. I think I had read somewhere that she wanted to put her book out, first; before anyone else did.

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As sad as it is, Mayte's career has had a re-birth, post-Prince, as well as many Prince's associates.

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Prince pretty much summed-up how he felt about his divorce with Mayte and his break-up with WB. I think because of the loss of his son, and the grim prospects that they would ever have another child was too hard for him to bear; he needed to move on. That was his time of "re-birth", if you will.

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http://www.papermag.com/p...72669.html

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What the Artist goes on to say is that wanting a monopoly on his lady had become the marital version of owning someone else's masters. From what he says, and from what others say, theirs has been an intensely romantic relationship, a kind of you-and-me-against-the- world vibe. But both felt it was starting to get weird. "We were drawing energy from strange people around us. Strange words and numbers, bad contracts. We had to step away from that," he explains.

Asenath said:

206Michelle said:

Prince reaped what he sowed. He could have prevented Mayte from going on Hollywood Exes and from auctioning off his possessions if he had offered her a better divorce settlement and allowed her to access some of her possessions at their home in MN...or better yet, by trying to stay true to his marriage vows. If he didn't want to be married to her anymore, he could have been a stand-up guy and divorced her instead of stringing her along with the "annulment", the new house in Spain, and so forth. When he became a famous person, he signed up for the possibility of people going public about him at some point.

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He and Mayte divorced in 2000, before reality TV was a big thing, but once these reality TV shows started to happen with more frequency, he could have had one of his people go to Mayte and offer her money for the possessions from their Marabella home and paid her some money as a preventive measure so that he wouldn't have to worry about her selling his things or going on reality television. He could have afforded to pay her $100,000 a year so she could live comfortably. He was a private person, and if he wanted to keep his business private, he had the means to pay Mayte so that she would keep his business quiet, since one of her biggest assets is that she's Prince's ex-wife.

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Manuela got off very nicely in the divorce, but she also was a business woman and probably more business savvy than Mayte. She also didn't experience the same heartbreak as Mayte had with losing their son as an infant. Plus Mani knew she was dealing with a married man when she started working for .

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In addition, as much as I love the man, I believe that he was the major reason why he and Mayte's marriage ended in divorce in the first place. He married Mayte at Park Avenue United Methodist Church, he made his vows. He had his grand plan for married life (p. 175 of The Most Beautiful). He and Mayte encountered their first major bump in the road when they lost Amiir and experienced that unspeakable grief of losing a child, but she wrote in The Most Beautiful that, prior to the end of their marriage when they had frequent arguments, "there was a long stretch before that when I truly believed we'd be all right" (p. 223). She wrote on p. 228 about how they were "reborn to each other" around their first anniversary, February 1997.

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Mayte became pregnant again in the summer of 1997, and then the miscarriage happened in November 1997...and he turned away from her. He had a problem with her having the D & C following the miscarriage when she continued to bleed, and the D & C was a procedure her doctor said was medically necessary (p. 236 of The Most Beautiful). He tells her to let nature take its course, to have faith, that "Larry is always saying ---" (p. 236). He let Larry and his JW beliefs interfere with his marriage.

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made the decision to turn away from Mayte for whatever reasons and instead of staying true to his marriage vows, he contrives an "annulment". If he really didn't want to be with Mayte anymore, instead of stringing her along by promising to start a new life with her in Spain and making up the "annulment", be a stand-up guy and divorce her outright.

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He set himself up for Mayte to have to rely on her relationship with him in order to make money by contriving the "annulment" and running off with another woman (Manuela), and then offering her a crappy divorce settlement (the Marabella house and all of its contents). Mayte should have demanded more, but she said she was beat down from the end of their relationship, which I can understand. She was backed into a corner and had no other escape but to divorce him, after she became a stranger in her own home in Minnesota, after the Grahams moved into their guesthouse without consulting Mayte, and after he was dating Manuela while still a married man. Mayte never wanted to leave him...Prince backed her into a corner where she had no viable option than to divorce him. She did what she had to do when she initiated the divorce, but he could have handled the situation a whole lot better than he did.

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You are simply going by Mayte's interpretations of events; where you there to witness all of this? " made the decision to turn away from Mayte for whatever reason", I understand that she was depressed and grieving, but if she was getting info that he was cheating, she felt something was wrong, she knew that the girl is MN was on her way in, why didn't she leave Spain and go fight for her marriage? Stop putting everything on Prince based simply on Mayte's point of view.

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I agree; Prince never really told anyone about the complexities of his divorce with Mayte; that was something he would not discuss, because he was a very private person. Mayte was very young girl when she met Prince, and he afforded her a lifestyle that most girls can only dream about. I think Prince thought he could mold Mayte into the perfect woman that he envisioned, and when things started to go sour; he wanted out. He was looking for an escape route. When all of that was gone (her life with P); she was hurt and devastated. How can any other man ever take his place? Mayte even said herself that no other man will ever compare to Prince.

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cloveringold85 said:

cloveringold85 said:

Asenath said:

You are simply going by Mayte's interpretations of events; where you there to witness all of this? " made the decision to turn away from Mayte for whatever reason", I understand that she was depressed and grieving, but if she was getting info that he was cheating, she felt something was wrong, she knew that the girl is MN was on her way in, why didn't she leave Spain and go fight for her marriage? Stop putting everything on Prince based simply on Mayte's point of view.

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I agree; Prince never really told anyone about the complexities of his divorce with Mayte; that was something he would not discuss, because he was a very private person. Mayte was very young girl when she met Prince, and he afforded her a lifestyle that most girls can only dream about. I think Prince thought he could mold Mayte into the perfect woman that he envisioned, and when things started to go sour; he wanted out. He was looking for an escape route. When all of that was gone (her life with P); she was hurt and devastated. How can any other man ever take his place? Mayte even said herself that no other man will ever compare to Prince.

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They appeared to be very happy together for a while.

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cloveringold85 said:

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I agree; Prince never really told anyone about the complexities of his divorce with Mayte; that was something he would not discuss, because he was a very private person. Mayte was very young girl when she met Prince, and he afforded her a lifestyle that most girls can only dream about. I think Prince thought he could mold Mayte into the perfect woman that he envisioned, and when things started to go sour; he wanted out. He was looking for an escape route. When all of that was gone (her life with P); she was hurt and devastated. How can any other man ever take his place? Mayte even said herself that no other man will ever compare to Prince.

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They appeared to be very happy together for a while.

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Oh, and they were indeed. I have no doubt about that.

cloveringold85 said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

They appeared to be very happy together for a while.

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Oh, and they were indeed. I have no doubt about that.

I agree.

Why don't you all start a Bashing Mayte thread, and let us who want to discuss the Q & A continue to do so.

What you see as mayte bashing is the reaction to what many of us perceive will be a Q and A taking place on the anniversary of death that scrutinizes Prince himself or replays the pain he put his loving wife through from his actions.. I get that he was flawed-- but on the anniverary of his death, I find it odd to hash out his flaws again. Let that be a day of reverence and appreciation. Eulogies are not filled with a list of complaints wiht a few compliments through in. The eulogies I have heard have no more than a brief reference to that person being imperfect and a ton of appreciation for the person's better traits and their skills and talents. The rest of the year can be more critical...but on birthdays and anniversary we really ought to celebrate the person's better angels of their nature.

PennyPurple said:

Why don't you all start a Bashing Mayte thread, and let us who want to discuss the Q & A continue to do so.

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cloveringold85 said:

Actually, this is not taking place on the Anniversary of his death....Mayte's Q & A is on the 19th.

Why do I hear no complaints from you about the other associates doing interviews and Q & A's?

Again if you want to bash and stay off topic, create your own bashing thread. Please & Thank you.

purplerabbithole said:

What you see as mayte bashing is the reaction to what many of us perceive will be a Q and A taking place on the anniversary of death that scrutinizes Prince himself or replays the pain he put his loving wife through from his actions.. I get that he was flawed-- but on the anniverary of his death, I find it odd to hash out his flaws again. Let that be a day of reverence and appreciation. Eulogies are not filled with a list of complaints wiht a few compliments through in. The eulogies I have heard have no more than a brief reference to that person being imperfect and a ton of appreciation for the person's better traits and their skills and talents. The rest of the year can be more critical...but on birthdays and anniversary we really ought to celebrate the person's better angels of their nature.

PennyPurple said:

Why don't you all start a Bashing Mayte thread, and let us who want to discuss the Q & A continue to do so.

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You have selective reading then Penny. Read what I said earlier in this thread about being cynical to some degree about most of these people. I have said nice things about Mayte as well. I don't rip her a new one the way others do, but I don't have to love everything she does or says.. I just have reservations about her like I do most of the associates here due to the fact that they are falliable like anyone else and artists with their own ambitions and egos to some degree like Prince himself??. . the 19th of April isn't part of the "Celebration"?? --come on. If my words about Mayte are considered bashing then you folks' words about Prince are equivalent of verbally slaughtering the man...Bashing of Mayte can be found on those youtube clips entitled "the real Mayte Garcia". That is bashing on a whole other level.

PennyPurple said:

Actually, this is not taking place on the Anniversary of his death....Mayte's Q & A is on the 19th.

Why do I hear no complaints from you about the other associates doing interviews and Q & A's?

Again if you want to bash and stay off topic, create your own bashing thread. Please & Thank you.

purplerabbithole said:

What you see as mayte bashing is the reaction to what many of us perceive will be a Q and A taking place on the anniversary of death that scrutinizes Prince himself or replays the pain he put his loving wife through from his actions.. I get that he was flawed-- but on the anniverary of his death, I find it odd to hash out his flaws again. Let that be a day of reverence and appreciation. Eulogies are not filled with a list of complaints wiht a few compliments through in. The eulogies I have heard have no more than a brief reference to that person being imperfect and a ton of appreciation for the person's better traits and their skills and talents. The rest of the year can be more critical...but on birthdays and anniversary we really ought to celebrate the person's better angels of their nature.

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No one said you have to like anybody. This just isn't the thread to do it. Create a thread where people can go and bash her. I'm interested in these Q & A's and in the Celebration AND this is what this thread is about.

And read again, I didn't say the 19th wasn't part of the Celebration. I simply responded to your statement "Q and A taking place on the anniversary of death that scrutinizes Prince himself or replays the pain he put his loving wife through from his actions.." the 19th isn't the anniversary of his death. AND what makes you think Mayte will say anything bad about Prince? She's been really, really respectful of him and us fans.

purplerabbithole said:

You have selective reading then Penny. Read what I said earlier in this thread about being cynical to some degree about most of these people. I have said nice things about Mayte as well. I don't rip her a new one the way others do, but I don't have to love everything she does or says.. I just have reservations about her like I do most of the associates here due to the fact that they are falliable like anyone else and artists with their own ambitions and egos to some degree like Prince himself??. . the 19th of April isn't part of the "Celebration" --come on.

PennyPurple said:

Actually, this is not taking place on the Anniversary of his death....Mayte's Q & A is on the 19th.

Why do I hear no complaints from you about the other associates doing interviews and Q & A's?

Again if you want to bash and stay off topic, create your own bashing thread. Please & Thank you.

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I refuse to use the word "bash" or not like when describing my concerns over her. Do you believe you are bashing Prince or disliking Prince everytime you state an opinion about behavior of his you might dislike.

As for how she will be during the Q and A, I hope you are right. In interviews she does tend to skim over negativity or try to soften it. But she released a book that was deeply personal and one-side around this time last year (and not lacking in complaints) . . Do you think people will ask "hey, Mayte, what do you think of Prince's use of falsetto in the most beautiful girl in the world and what can you tell us about the recording of that song?" or "Can you describe what you think his greatest quality as an entertainer was?" or even "What did you find most attractive abou him>/". Is she going to refuse questions that are salicious or critical from those MayteCrusaders who call in (Like how did you feel when you found out P was seeing Manuela?"

PennyPurple said:

No one said you have to like anybody. This just isn't the thread to do it. Create a thread where people can go and bash her. I'm interested in these Q & A's and in the Celebration AND this is what this thread is about.

And read again, I didn't say the 19th wasn't part of the Celebration. I simply responded to your statement "Q and A taking place on the anniversary of death that scrutinizes Prince himself or replays the pain he put his loving wife through from his actions.." the 19th isn't the anniversary of his death. AND what makes you think Mayte will say anything bad about Prince? She's been really, really respectful of him and us fans.

purplerabbithole said:

You have selective reading then Penny. Read what I said earlier in this thread about being cynical to some degree about most of these people. I have said nice things about Mayte as well. I don't rip her a new one the way others do, but I don't have to love everything she does or says.. I just have reservations about her like I do most of the associates here due to the fact that they are falliable like anyone else and artists with their own ambitions and egos to some degree like Prince himself??. . the 19th of April isn't part of the "Celebration" --come on.

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amethyst68 said:

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I'm not blaming either Prince or Mayte exclusively for the way things turned out between them. There's 2 sides to a failed marriage. I'm also not a Mayte hater, but based on what I've seen and read about them I can see why Prince cheated. Mayte essentially left him and moved to Spain (and maybe he created an environment where she needed a break from him). What did she think that he would do? After reading The Most Beautiful, I think that if Mayte had moved back to Minneapolis, M2 would have been sent back to Canada. In her book, Mayte states that when she went to meet Prince while he was on tour in California, that he was sick from some pills and asked her to throw the remaining pills away, which she did. Then he asks her to never leave him again. The next day she leaves to go house hunting in Spain. I don't understand why she left, if she wanted to be with him.

Anyway, if I decide to participate in that StageIt Q&A, I would love to ask her the following:

1) Why did you go back to Spain after he asked you to never leave again?

2) What was the purpose of the phony annulment papers (I would have pretended that I was going to sign and then tore them up )?

3) What did you know about Prince's substance abuse problem and when?

A part of me suspects that the annulment papers where apease M2 for the time being.

One other thing that I find a bit odd is that I was watching a press conference that Prince gave in Spain, in '98 (I believe) and Mayte was there also. One of the questions that a reporter asked was regarding Prince having bought a house in Spain. You can tell that he was totally surprised by the question, like wanting to know where did the reporter get that info from? Mayte chimes in and says that "we're looking for a house" while she is trying to calm Prince down by rubbing on his shoulder. So my question is, did Prince know that Mayte wanted a house in Spain because based on his response, he was totally in the dark about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhS6IL9Ojao (at the 12:08 mark)

You either didn’t read her book, read it out of context or didn’t understand what you were reading. They decided together to buy a second home away from Minneapolis so they could work on having another baby and to get away from all the tabloid gossip about them being negligent parents and potentially liable for homicide (that part wasn’t in the book). Secondly, she was back and forth between Minneapolis and Spain. She says that in the book. Lastly, when she met in LA, they’d already had their home in Spain. She didn’t leave him to go house hunting. He told her to go back and he’d meet her there once he finished the last few dates of the tour.

I read her book and fully understand what I read. You're only looking at the parts that you want to believe. Mayte says in the book that she wished that Prince was in Spain with her more, that she was there by herself most of the time, and that she was flying all over the world to meet up with him. Obviously, his interest was not in Spain. Regardless whether or not the house was already purchased, she should have stayed with him after that LA incident, if she wanted him, that is. She says that in hind sight that she left him alone too much. I'm just curious to know what was going on in her head at the time?

anangellooksdown said:

amethyst68 said:

He whispered in her ear while she translated. Basically, he said they had just bought a house there, asked for everyone to respect their privacy and if they did, they’d be there forever. He also said he wanted them to take care of Mayte and he’d take care of them. Then she starts gushing about how much he loves her.

Thanks, Amethyst. I would live to see video of this if anyone has it. I guess he was caught off-guard during the interview, and preferred to announce that inhis own way and time.

But the interviewer said that Mayte had said something to them about it.

purplerabbithole said:

After watching the video, I feel like he knew a bit of rudimentary spanish. I think he had an idea of what the reporter was asking during that question about the house/house hunting. Yes he was acting surprised, but as it was happening I think he realized the question.

anangellooksdown said:

Also, what a breath of fresh air to watch that video above of him speaking about the music. And other things. Lol, I think Mayte was house-hunting before he arrived in Marabella, and didn’t tell him about it. Here’s the link again in case anyone missed it. https://youtu.be/EhS6IL9Ojao [Edited 4/10/18 11:33am]

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cloveringold85 said:

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I agree; Prince never really told anyone about the complexities of his divorce with Mayte; that was something he would not discuss, because he was a very private person. Mayte was very young girl when she met Prince, and he afforded her a lifestyle that most girls can only dream about. I think Prince thought he could mold Mayte into the perfect woman that he envisioned, and when things started to go sour; he wanted out. He was looking for an escape route. When all of that was gone (her life with P); she was hurt and devastated. How can any other man ever take his place? Mayte even said herself that no other man will ever compare to Prince.

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He talked about them splitting in a press conference. As it’s been said over and over now, when he was with Mayte, he wasn’t as private as you seem to think. Think back to that time or if you weren’t following Prince the, take a look at his interviews around that time.

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I know he talked about his divorce with M1, publicly, but not in great detail or intimacy. That is what I was referring to.

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He had to tell the press something, because he needed to do damage-control, and people are going to ask.

PennyPurple said:

No one said you have to like anybody. This just isn't the thread to do it. Create a thread where people can go and bash her. I'm interested in these Q & A's and in the Celebration AND this is what this thread is about.

And read again, I didn't say the 19th wasn't part of the Celebration. I simply responded to your statement "Q and A taking place on the anniversary of death that scrutinizes Prince himself or replays the pain he put his loving wife through from his actions.." the 19th isn't the anniversary of his death. AND what makes you think Mayte will say anything bad about Prince? She's been really, really respectful of him and us fans.

purplerabbithole said:

You have selective reading then Penny. Read what I said earlier in this thread about being cynical to some degree about most of these people. I have said nice things about Mayte as well. I don't rip her a new one the way others do, but I don't have to love everything she does or says.. I just have reservations about her like I do most of the associates here due to the fact that they are falliable like anyone else and artists with their own ambitions and egos to some degree like Prince himself??. . the 19th of April isn't part of the "Celebration" --come on.

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You say "she's been really, really respectful of him"; which is your opinion, so why do you feel like it's bashing if someone responds to you that they disagree and cite examples A, B and C? Was it considered off topic when you asked if Andy would be selling things and when you accussed Prince of having an affair with Manuela? Anyway I would gladly pay $25 to ask her does she really believe that the man she described as being so loving and tender towards his son would have the heart to burn his son's urn.

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People wanna keep asking questions, charge 'em. I mean if she keeps getting bum-rushed in her classes with a ton of question then obviously there's a want. Given her chronic condition, why keep holding classes wearing her body out if most people only want is to keep asking questions. Sit down and get paid a bit. Ain't nothing free but air and the org anyway.

PennyPurple said:

I so wish I could go!!

Latin said:

PennyPurple said:

Check out the abstract by a panelist, chosen by the organizers, to present at the "PRINCE FROM MINNEAPOLIS: A SYMPOSIUM AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA" entitled "Sarah Pina, “‘tears go here, tears go there’: Mayte Garcia’s The Most Beautiful: My Life With Prince and US Latina authorship”: "Within the kaleidoscope-esque life that was Prince’s, the Puerto Rican-born belly dancing muse of beauty known as Mayte Garcia was his first and only in many ways: his first wife, the only woman to bear his child, and the only woman to stay true to her name — despite Prince’s insistence on changing it, as he did to many women in his life, to name a few. The latter alone is very much representative of what I argue is a definitive Third World feminist memoir as Garcia tells her story on her terms, in her own words, by way of literary techniques characteristic of US Latina authors, while also peeling back and unpacking several complex layers and issues common to US Hispanic literature in general, broaching on intersectional matters of social class, racial discrimination, language, gender, and sexuality, all of which are introduced within the first few pages, and are thereafter woven throughout the text. Garcia writes in the introduction that she hopes those closest to him will eventually tell their stories, too, and that a music scholar “will write a book that spans the incredible depth and breadth of Prince’s work” but that “This is not that book” (8). Indeed, this is not that book; it is a much more profound testimony of a woman of color in the United States and her coming of age story in the shadow of the Purple One. The Most Beautiful: My Life with Prince is often marketed as a leisurely read; however, I posit that it merits the same if not more analysis that she infers is better suited for another more “scholarly” text, as it is much more than a simple tale of a love story between her and one of the most enigmatic international celebrities of our time. Ultimately, I demonstrate that Garcia’s memoir is a poignant and carefully crafted composition with which Garcia carves her own female agency, asserting her distinctive voice to the many underrepresented voices of women of color as a Latina growing up in the United States, all by way of the unlikely vehicle of the charismatic, magical musical genius known as Prince."

I wouldn't mind a symposium about Latina voices, women voices, and feminism but have they forgotten that these events are a celebration of Prince's life,. ALso, I think her voice would be more respected if it didn't rely on her connection to Prince so much and she was not a regular on reality shows about her connection to the men in her life. . Geez, I am weary how this might go. This discussion will present Prince as the oppressor and she finally stands up to him and differientates herself from him even though she loves him and it ends their relationship . In a different context, it might be okay but late April is supposed to be a "celebration" of his life in Minnesota..not a celebration of Mayte , her Latin backgroud, and her ability to use Prince as a "vehicle" for her "agency" against his will. God, I am weary. A bigger statement about her ability to be her own woman would be to do a presentation of her book (about coming of age and female agency) not on a long weekend sold by its association to the MAN in her life and if it were about her own accomplishments once she left Prince...not her own accomplishements once he croaked and due to his croaking.. There is some absurd kind of irony to this stuff. Plus, did she not have a ghost writer??

PennyPurple said:

I so wish I could go!!

Latin said:

PennyPurple said: Check out the abstract by a panelist, chosen by the organizers, to present at the "PRINCE FROM MINNEAPOLIS: A SYMPOSIUM AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA" entitled "Sarah Pina, “‘tears go here, tears go there’: Mayte Garcia’s The Most Beautiful: My Life With Prince and US Latina authorship”: "Within the kaleidoscope-esque life that was Prince’s, the Puerto Rican-born belly dancing muse of beauty known as Mayte Garcia was his first and only in many ways: his first wife, the only woman to bear his child, and the only woman to stay true to her name — despite Prince’s insistence on changing it, as he did to many women in his life, to name a few. The latter alone is very much representative of what I argue is a definitive Third World feminist memoir as Garcia tells her story on her terms, in her own words, by way of literary techniques characteristic of US Latina authors, while also peeling back and unpacking several complex layers and issues common to US Hispanic literature in general, broaching on intersectional matters of social class, racial discrimination, language, gender, and sexuality, all of which are introduced within the first few pages, and are thereafter woven throughout the text. Garcia writes in the introduction that she hopes those closest to him will eventually tell their stories, too, and that a music scholar “will write a book that spans the incredible depth and breadth of Prince’s work” but that “This is not that book” (8). Indeed, this is not that book; it is a much more profound testimony of a woman of color in the United States and her coming of age story in the shadow of the Purple One. The Most Beautiful: My Life with Prince is often marketed as a leisurely read; however, I posit that it merits the same if not more analysis that she infers is better suited for another more “scholarly” text, as it is much more than a simple tale of a love story between her and one of the most enigmatic international celebrities of our time. Ultimately, I demonstrate that Garcia’s memoir is a poignant and carefully crafted composition with which Garcia carves her own female agency, asserting her distinctive voice to the many underrepresented voices of women of color as a Latina growing up in the United States, all by way of the unlikely vehicle of the charismatic, magical musical genius known as Prince."

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purplerabbithole said:

I wouldn't mind a symposium about Latina voices, women voices, and feminism but have they forgotten that these events are a celebration of Prince's life,. ALso, I think her voice would be more respected if it didn't rely on her connection to Prince so much and she was not a regular on reality shows about her connection to the men in her life. . Geez, I am weary how this might go. This discussion will present Prince as the oppressor and she finally stands up to him and differientates herself from him even though she loves him and it ends their relationship . In a different context, it might be okay but late April is supposed to be a "celebration" of his life in Minnesota..not a celebration of Mayte , her Latin backgroud, and her ability to use Prince as a "vehicle" for her "agency" against his will. God, I am weary. A bigger statement about her ability to be her own woman would be to do a presentation of her book (about coming of age and female agency) not on a long weekend sold by its association to the MAN in her life and if it were about her own accomplishments once she left Prince...not her own accomplishements once he croaked and due to his croaking.. There is some absurd kind of irony to this stuff. Plus, did she not have a ghost writer??

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Very well said purplerabbithole! I don't wish her any ill will, but she never seemed to ever really move on with her life after P. I understand she was part of his band for most of the 90s, but

I feel that out of all the other women he was involved with, she was the only one that seemed to stay stuck on her time with him. For those interested in listening to her, I hope she keeps the focus on the music because it is a celebration of his life.

I am not going to diss on Mayte because a.) I don't want people to think I am biased against her and I do think she needed to forge her own voice (I am just not sure she has really completely done it yet) and b.) my point is more about the right time and right place. A celebration of Prince should not be more about his associates/peers/wives than him. (also, I get the vibe that he will be villianized as a Svengali in a time period meant to celebrate him. Also, that description sounds like an intellectual trying to legitimize a celebrity book .

Missmusicluver72 said:

purplerabbithole said:

I wouldn't mind a symposium about Latina voices, women voices, and feminism but have they forgotten that these events are a celebration of Prince's life,. ALso, I think her voice would be more respected if it didn't rely on her connection to Prince so much and she was not a regular on reality shows about her connection to the men in her life. . Geez, I am weary how this might go. This discussion will present Prince as the oppressor and she finally stands up to him and differientates herself from him even though she loves him and it ends their relationship . In a different context, it might be okay but late April is supposed to be a "celebration" of his life in Minnesota..not a celebration of Mayte , her Latin backgroud, and her ability to use Prince as a "vehicle" for her "agency" against his will. God, I am weary. A bigger statement about her ability to be her own woman would be to do a presentation of her book (about coming of age and female agency) not on a long weekend sold by its association to the MAN in her life and if it were about her own accomplishments once she left Prince...not her own accomplishements once he croaked and due to his croaking.. There is some absurd kind of irony to this stuff. Plus, did she not have a ghost writer??

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Very well said purplerabbithole! I don't wish her any ill will, but she never seemed to ever really move on with her life after P. I understand she was part of his band for most of the 90s, but

I feel that out of all the other women he was involved with, she was the only one that seemed to stay stuck on her time with him. For those interested in listening to her, I hope she keeps the focus on the music because it is a celebration of his life.

purplerabbithole said:

purplemist7777 said:

purplerabbithole said:

I am not going to diss on Mayte because a.) I don't want people to think I am biased against her and I do think she needed to forge her own voice (I am just not sure she has really completely done it yet) and b.) my point is more about the right time and right place. A celebration of Prince should not be more about his associates/peers/wives than him. (also, I get the vibe that he will be villianized as a Svengali in a time period meant to celebrate him. Also, that description sounds like an intellectual trying to legitimize a celebrity book .

I think this is someone That wrote a paper on Mayte’s book and is giving a talk nOt that Mayte is giving this talk. Maybe the organizers should have been more selective in putting together the panels

Mayte is giving a talk. She's on the board of panelists to do so.

purplemist7777 said:

I think this is someone That wrote a paper on Mayte’s book and is giving a talk nOt that Mayte is giving this talk. Maybe the organizers should have been more selective in putting together the panels

And that is exactly why I give these "panels" a huge side-eye when looking over the presenters list.