MonaLiza said:

bondno9 said:

It doesn't mean anything. Just some jibberish talk from an attention seeking former protege. She's turning out to be a troublemaker and loves starting unncecssary drama. So full of bitterness and jealousy.

Who would you say she's most angry at and why? Does she want more recognition from the fans? Like, what's wrong? She seems very defensive at times and I wish her issues could be alleviated...

She as A LOT of anger (and bitterness) towards Sheila for whatever the reason. Her comments about Celebration 2018 makes me wonder if she has flipped and now has issues with Tyka and Omar. I used to giver her the benefit of the doubt but now she's becoming annoying with her jealousy and bitterness.

bondno9 said:

MonaLiza said:

bondno9 said: Who would you say she's most angry at and why? Does she want more recognition from the fans? Like, what's wrong? She seems very defensive at times and I wish her issues could be alleviated...

She as A LOT of anger (and bitterness) towards Sheila for whatever the reason. Her comments about Celebration 2018 makes me wonder if she has flipped and now has issues with Tyka and Omar. I used to giver her the benefit of the doubt but now she's becoming annoying with her jealousy and bitterness.

She used to talk about how close she and Sheila were and how she supported her charity.Did she say what caused her sudden turn?

pinkcashmere23 said:

bondno9 said:

She as A LOT of anger (and bitterness) towards Sheila for whatever the reason. Her comments about Celebration 2018 makes me wonder if she has flipped and now has issues with Tyka and Omar. I used to giver her the benefit of the doubt but now she's becoming annoying with her jealousy and bitterness.

She used to talk about how close she and Sheila were and how she supported her charity.Did she say what caused her sudden turn?

Sheila is going to be performing at the celebration and I think it is pretty clear Apples does not support the celebration which is something Graceland reactived to generate interest in Paisley Park .

ChocolateBox3121 said:

laurarichardson said:

Re read.

Remember when Mark Brown said in that interview that he went to see Prince because Apples told him Prince was sick? Then Mark said he may a mistake.

Why would she tell Mark to go see Prince because he was sick if he was not sick? Could she have gotten this info from Prince or from a crystal ball.

I believe this was before Moline because Mark said he wanted to see about a reunion tour for the Revolution. Let us hope that Mark is not so crass that he went to PP to talk about a reunion tour after Moline. From what we know no one who wanted to see Prince got to after Moline.

Actually Prince invited Tamron Hall to PP after the Moline incident but she declined. Which she regrets to this day.

slightly off topic, but I wonder why Tamron didn'tgo to PP when he asked her.She is in the news/ entertainment business and must have heard the rumours of a drug od on the plane.And since she spoke to him daily? she would have known he downplayed things about himself eg saying he was feeling fine when he was not .

80tomato said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Actually Prince invited Tamron Hall to PP after the Moline incident but she declined. Which she regrets to this day.

slightly off topic, but I wonder why Tamron didn'tgo to PP when he asked her.She is in the news/ entertainment business and must have heard the rumours of a drug od on the plane.And since she spoke to him daily? she would have known he downplayed things about himself eg saying he was feeling fine when he was not .

You do not know how he was feeling. For someone on death's door he sure got around well.

pinkcashmere23 said:

bondno9 said:

She as A LOT of anger (and bitterness) towards Sheila for whatever the reason. Her comments about Celebration 2018 makes me wonder if she has flipped and now has issues with Tyka and Omar. I used to giver her the benefit of the doubt but now she's becoming annoying with her jealousy and bitterness.

She used to talk about how close she and Sheila were and how she supported her charity.Did she say what caused her sudden turn?

She made a comment I believe on FB last year (or maybe late '16) that inferred Prince had attempted to "block" Sheila's book and allegedly he had served her papers to that effect. I believe that's a major part of her "feelings." Apollonia hasdn't made kind comments about Sheila since P's death. What's even more interesting is that she supported Celebration 2017 and was close with OMAR. Now all of a sudden she's against it this year. Why??? because Sheila and Mayte are on the program.

bondno9 said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

She used to talk about how close she and Sheila were and how she supported her charity.Did she say what caused her sudden turn?

She made a comment I believe on FB last year (or maybe late '16) that inferred Prince had attempted to "block" Sheila's book and allegedly he had served her papers to that effect. I believe that's a major part of her "feelings." Apollonia hasdn't made kind comments about Sheila since P's death. What's even more interesting is that she supported Celebration 2017 and was close with OMAR. Now all of a sudden she's against it this year. Why??? because Sheila and Mayte are on the program.

Ah ok.Thanks!

bondno9 said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

She used to talk about how close she and Sheila were and how she supported her charity.Did she say what caused her sudden turn?

She made a comment I believe on FB last year (or maybe late '16) that inferred Prince had attempted to "block" Sheila's book and allegedly he had served her papers to that effect. I believe that's a major part of her "feelings." Apollonia hasdn't made kind comments about Sheila since P's death. What's even more interesting is that she supported Celebration 2017 and was close with OMAR. Now all of a sudden she's against it this year. Why??? because Sheila and Mayte are on the program.

I suspect so and I can believe that Prince served Sheila papers on her book. He only takes up 10 pages in that book and she is very vague. I am sure the lawyers at the publishing company cut her manuscript to ribbons.

I suspect the same happened with Mayte's book and it would be something if Apples has any correspondence concerning Prince's real feelings about these ladies.

80tomato said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Actually Prince invited Tamron Hall to PP after the Moline incident but she declined. Which she regrets to this day.

slightly off topic, but I wonder why Tamron didn'tgo to PP when he asked her.She is in the news/ entertainment business and must have heard the rumours of a drug od on the plane.And since she spoke to him daily? she would have known he downplayed things about himself eg saying he was feeling fine when he was not .

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Tamron said she could not go due to her work schedule.

bondno9 said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

She used to talk about how close she and Sheila were and how she supported her charity.Did she say what caused her sudden turn?

She made a comment I believe on FB last year (or maybe late '16) that inferred Prince had attempted to "block" Sheila's book and allegedly he had served her papers to that effect. I believe that's a major part of her "feelings." Apollonia hasdn't made kind comments about Sheila since P's death. What's even more interesting is that she supported Celebration 2017 and was close with OMAR. Now all of a sudden she's against it this year. Why??? because Sheila and Mayte are on the program.

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I don't think that Prince wanted Sheila writing that they were engaged. She published her book and Prince didn't sue her, but that doesn't mean he was okay with it.

cloveringold85 said:

80tomato said:

slightly off topic, but I wonder why Tamron didn'tgo to PP when he asked her.She is in the news/ entertainment business and must have heard the rumours of a drug od on the plane.And since she spoke to him daily? she would have known he downplayed things about himself eg saying he was feeling fine when he was not .

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Tamron said she could not go due to her work schedule.

Prince assured Tamron that he was doing just fine after she called to see about him after the Moline incident. Which he quickly accepted her call. So thinking he was ok she decided not to attend Prince's last get together at his sprawling Paisley Park estate. A decision she now regrets.

pinkcashmere23 said:

malbena said:

cloveringold85 said:

bondno9 said:

She made a comment I believe on FB last year (or maybe late '16) that inferred Prince had attempted to "block" Sheila's book and allegedly he had served her papers to that effect. I believe that's a major part of her "feelings." Apollonia hasdn't made kind comments about Sheila since P's death. What's even more interesting is that she supported Celebration 2017 and was close with OMAR. Now all of a sudden she's against it this year. Why??? because Sheila and Mayte are on the program.

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I don't think that Prince wanted Sheila writing that they were engaged. She published her book and Prince didn't sue her, but that doesn't mean he was okay with it.

Right! Thing is, Apollonia acts like P never said anything bad about her to others. In her mind she and P were BFF o She did ONE movie with the man and was in A6 for .06 seconds (and then said adios to the P camp) BUT she knows everything

purplemist7777 said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Ah ok.Thanks!

she is banned from PP so of course she is throwing shade. But she was around last year at Celebration and was basking in all the attention.

She was slopping it up like biscuits and gravy

bondno9 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I don't think that Prince wanted Sheila writing that they were engaged. She published her book and Prince didn't sue her, but that doesn't mean he was okay with it.

Right! Thing is, Apollonia acts like P never said anything bad about her to others. In her mind she and P were BFF o She did ONE movie with the man and was in A6 for .06 seconds (and then said adios to the P camp) BUT she knows everything

Actually that is not true. She simply could not sign and had no interest in staying in the group. Remember she was a replacement for Vanity and I remember seeing pics of Apples at the PR concerts. I doubt there parting was a bad as we think and I do not think she is making up the fact that they stayed in touch. We now know he stayed in touch with a lot a people and according to Jill Jones he had private relationships as well as public.

IF some women that answered his phones can auction off check registry and passport photos. Why can't Apples speak? What are some of you so afraid of?

ChocolateBox3121 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Tamron said she could not go due to her work schedule.

Prince assured Tamron that he was doing just fine after she called to see about him after the Moline incident. Which he quickly accepted her call. So thinking he was ok she decided not to attend Prince's last get together at his sprawling Paisley Park estate. A decision she now regrets.

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What I don't understand about Prince, is why wouldn't he tell someone, if something was wrong? You are not living a full an enriching life, if all you wanna do is keep secrets from people.

It's very sad and heartbreaking to think that Prince kept all of his pain inside and did not tell a soul.

bondno9 said:

purplemist7777 said:

pinkcashmere23 said: she is banned from PP so of course she is throwing shade. But she was around last year at Celebration and was basking in all the attention.

She was slopping it up like biscuits and gravy

cloveringold85 said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Prince assured Tamron that he was doing just fine after she called to see about him after the Moline incident. Which he quickly accepted her call. So thinking he was ok she decided not to attend Prince's last get together at his sprawling Paisley Park estate. A decision she now regrets.

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What I don't understand about Prince, is why wouldn't he tell someone, if something was wrong? You are not living a full an enriching life, if all you wanna do is keep secrets from people.

It's very sad and heartbreaking to think that Prince kept all of his pain inside and did not tell a soul.

and perhaps sadder is if he was in pain, in any form, that no one asked him about his pain. that they let

him continue to set the stage. What kind of real friendship is that. i would love to hear streams

of people speaking and saying i called him and he wouldn't talk to me, or i told him to get help.

or i invited him over to eat and play games and hang out or whatever... and to hear that he said no.

But no stories of anyone going out of their way to reach him, shake him or yell at him. Where are those people??? if there are none then he chose poorly on purpose or had really bad luck in friendships. it just seems crazy that there isn't one person who can say, I tried and tried and tried and tried and tried.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

bondno9 said:

She was slopping it up like biscuits and gravy

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STOP IT......You're making me hungry!!

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purplefam99 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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What I don't understand about Prince, is why wouldn't he tell someone, if something was wrong? You are not living a full an enriching life, if all you wanna do is keep secrets from people.

It's very sad and heartbreaking to think that Prince kept all of his pain inside and did not tell a soul.

and perhaps sadder is if he was in pain, in any form, that no one asked him about his pain. that they let

him continue to set the stage. What kind of real friendship is that. i would love to hear streams

of people speaking and saying i called him and he wouldn't talk to me, or i told him to get help.

or i invited him over to eat and play games and hang out or whatever... and to hear that he said no.

But no stories of anyone going out of their way to reach him, shake him or yell at him. Where are those people??? if there are none then he chose poorly on purpose or had really bad luck in friendships. it just seems crazy that there isn't one person who can say, I tried and tried and tried and tried and tried.

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I angers me that Prince did not tell anyone he was hurting. Everyone in his camp seem clueless as to what was really going on with Prince. I almost have to wonder if Prince was even abusing prescription pain pills at all. All of this shit is utterly confusing!!

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On the other hand, I think he kept his enablers around, and those who would have helped him and gave him some tough love -- he kept away.

cloveringold85 said:

purplefam99 said:

and perhaps sadder is if he was in pain, in any form, that no one asked him about his pain. that they let

him continue to set the stage. What kind of real friendship is that. i would love to hear streams

of people speaking and saying i called him and he wouldn't talk to me, or i told him to get help.

or i invited him over to eat and play games and hang out or whatever... and to hear that he said no.

But no stories of anyone going out of their way to reach him, shake him or yell at him. Where are those people??? if there are none then he chose poorly on purpose or had really bad luck in friendships. it just seems crazy that there isn't one person who can say, I tried and tried and tried and tried and tried.

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I angers me that Prince did not tell anyone he was hurting. Everyone in his camp seem clueless as to what was really going on with Prince. I almost have to wonder if Prince was even abusing prescription pain pills at all. All of this shit is utterly confusing!!

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On the other hand, I think he kept his enablers around, and those who would have helped him and gave him some tough love -- he kept away.

it would seem at this point if privacy is what he valued in friendship then we need really look no further than to the ones who are being the most silent. maybe those are the people we are pounding on but are in fact being true to their friend. Maybe we are sad about him having no friends in vain. His Private relationships. and i am betting he didn't need more than 3 to fill this

need. it is crazy all of it.

cloveringold85 said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Prince assured Tamron that he was doing just fine after she called to see about him after the Moline incident. Which he quickly accepted her call. So thinking he was ok she decided not to attend Prince's last get together at his sprawling Paisley Park estate. A decision she now regrets.

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What I don't understand about Prince, is why wouldn't he tell someone, if something was wrong? You are not living a full an enriching life, if all you wanna do is keep secrets from people.

It's very sad and heartbreaking to think that Prince kept all of his pain inside and did not tell a soul.

The whole story is not being told. All Kirk has to do is unlock the vault in his head and reveal what we all need to know to get closure to this horrible tragedy that rocked my world.

purplefam99 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I angers me that Prince did not tell anyone he was hurting. Everyone in his camp seem clueless as to what was really going on with Prince. I almost have to wonder if Prince was even abusing prescription pain pills at all. All of this shit is utterly confusing!!

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On the other hand, I think he kept his enablers around, and those who would have helped him and gave him some tough love -- he kept away.

it would seem at this point if privacy is what he valued in friendship then we need really look no further than to the ones who are being the most silent. maybe those are the people we are pounding on but are in fact being true to their friend. Maybe we are sad about him having no friends in vain. His Private relationships. and i am betting he didn't need more than 3 to fill this

need. it is crazy all of it.

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I understand the privacy bit, but if you have a loved one who is having a "dire emergency", or in need of a "Life saving mission", ask Dr. Kornfeld put it, then all the right for privacy goes right out the window!! You ACT, you do SOMETHING -- just don't stand by while your friend/loved one is dying.

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It is crazy, to say the least and unexplainable & unimaginable how this could have happened to Prince!!

ChocolateBox3121 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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What I don't understand about Prince, is why wouldn't he tell someone, if something was wrong? You are not living a full an enriching life, if all you wanna do is keep secrets from people.

It's very sad and heartbreaking to think that Prince kept all of his pain inside and did not tell a soul.

The whole story is not being told. All Kirk has to do is unlock the vault in his head and reveal what we all need to know to get closure to this horrible tragedy that rocked my world.

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No, it's not and I don't think we will ever know the truth, sadly.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Vashtix said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

The whole story is not being told. All Kirk has to do is unlock the vault in his head and reveal what we all need to know to get closure to this horrible tragedy that rocked my world.

Would you truzt wjat Kirk says?

YES I WOULD!

[Edited 3/14/18 16:27pm]

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Vashtix said:

ChocolateBox3121 said: Would you truzt wjat Kirk says?

YES I WOULD!

[Edited 3/14/18 16:27pm]

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It's wishful thinking, but Kirky's not gonna say anything that would be negative towards Prince. He's not gonna address all the rumors.

cloveringold85 said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

YES I WOULD!

[Edited 3/14/18 16:27pm]

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It's wishful thinking, but Kirky's not gonna say anything that would be negative towards Prince. He's not gonna address all the rumors.

Because he's loyal which is something I live by. A person that is loyal will have your back no matter what. Prince knew that about Kirky J..

Which was my response to Vashtix(which btw is my aunts name and a name that appeared in the credits for the 3xplatinum album 1999 my favorite P album). Prince did have a person he told EVERYTHING to . Kirk knew exactly what Prince was going through. Even on the plane to Moline. Kirk was the one that told the paramedics why Prince was unconscious.When Judith went to get him.