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Prince's sound engineer, Susan Rogers: 'He needed to be the alpha male to get things done'

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/nov/09/princes-sound-engineer-susan-rogers-he-needed-to-be-the-alpha-male-to-get-things-done

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Reply #1 posted 11/11/17 2:09am

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rap said:

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/nov/09/princes-sound-engineer-susan-rogers-he-needed-to-be-the-alpha-male-to-get-things-done

While I'm extremely grateful to Susan for sharing all the stories she's shared with us over the years, I wish journalists would interview engineers from later periods a little more.

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It's like 75% of Prince-related interviews are Susan and members of the Pre-Revolution and Revolution band, while Prince has worked with dozens of musicians and engineers after 1986. I realize that most were under non disclosure agreements but now that Prince is gone, they're all free to talk (and I'm sure many are eager to).

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Reply #2 posted 11/11/17 3:18am

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databank said:



rap said:


https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/nov/09/princes-sound-engineer-susan-rogers-he-needed-to-be-the-alpha-male-to-get-things-done



While I'm extremely grateful to Susan for sharing all the stories she's shared with us over the years, I wish journalists would interview engineers from later periods a little more.


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It's like 75% of Prince-related interviews are Susan and members of the Pre-Revolution and Revolution band, while Prince has worked with dozens of musicians and engineers after 1986. I realize that most were under non disclosure agreements but now that Prince is gone, they're all free to talk (and I'm sure many are eager to).



Exactly. While some things about Prince stayed the same, this man lived an ENTIRE LIFE - just as we all have, lol...- since 1986 for gosh sakes!
They did interview Scotty Baldwin and that was insightful, if you could get past his ego! WOW.
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Reply #3 posted 11/11/17 3:59am

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databank said:

While I'm extremely grateful to Susan for sharing all the stories she's shared with us over the years, I wish journalists would interview engineers from later periods a little more.

.

It's like 75% of Prince-related interviews are Susan and members of the Pre-Revolution and Revolution band, while Prince has worked with dozens of musicians and engineers after 1986. I realize that most were under non disclosure agreements but now that Prince is gone, they're all free to talk (and I'm sure many are eager to).

Exactly. While some things about Prince stayed the same, this man lived an ENTIRE LIFE - just as we all have, lol...- since 1986 for gosh sakes! They did interview Scotty Baldwin and that was insightful, if you could get past his ego! WOW. lol

Overall I find it very sad that for most people, including some fans, Prince's career ended somewhere between 1986 and 1995. For me it ended in 2016 and I'm equally interested in each chapter of the journey. If we compare the amount of knowledge we have for recording sessions and Prince's life for each period, for each post-1990 fact we know of, we know 30 facts from the 80's. There's a goldmine of things to be revealed and stories to be told.

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Reply #4 posted 11/11/17 4:41am

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databank said:



anangellooksdown said:


databank said:


While I'm extremely grateful to Susan for sharing all the stories she's shared with us over the years, I wish journalists would interview engineers from later periods a little more.


.


It's like 75% of Prince-related interviews are Susan and members of the Pre-Revolution and Revolution band, while Prince has worked with dozens of musicians and engineers after 1986. I realize that most were under non disclosure agreements but now that Prince is gone, they're all free to talk (and I'm sure many are eager to).



Exactly. While some things about Prince stayed the same, this man lived an ENTIRE LIFE - just as we all have, lol...- since 1986 for gosh sakes! They did interview Scotty Baldwin and that was insightful, if you could get past his ego! WOW. lol

Overall I find it very sad that for most people, including some fans, Prince's career ended somewhere between 1986 and 1995. For me it ended in 2016 and I'm equally interested in each chapter of the journey. If we compare the amount of knowledge we have for recording sessions and Prince's life for each period, for each post-1990 fact we know of, we know 30 facts from the 80's. There's a goldmine of things to be revealed and stories to be told.




I'm having trouble following this math, perhaps it's just me, 😀, but I agree that this man matured and changed so much...artistically but mostly personally.
I am always most interested, and sometimes only interested, in who someone became.
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Reply #5 posted 11/11/17 4:42am

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I do however enjoy all of the music, from all eras.
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Reply #6 posted 11/11/17 5:01am

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Susan has some good insight on the relatively short period that she worked with him. But that was 30 years before his death. Most fans identify with that short period. I do not.
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Reply #7 posted 11/11/17 5:25am

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donnyenglish said:

Susan has some good insight on the relatively short period that she worked with him. But that was 30 years before his death. Most fans identify with that short period. I do not.


I don't either, as I began my re-entry to the Prince world on 4/21/16, and although I grew up with PR, I somehow knew to start this journey with his last album.
I know I'm not alone in that here.
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Reply #8 posted 11/11/17 5:33am

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databank said:



rap said:


https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/nov/09/princes-sound-engineer-susan-rogers-he-needed-to-be-the-alpha-male-to-get-things-done



While I'm extremely grateful to Susan for sharing all the stories she's shared with us over the years, I wish journalists would interview engineers from later periods a little more.


.


It's like 75% of Prince-related interviews are Susan and members of the Pre-Revolution and Revolution band, while Prince has worked with dozens of musicians and engineers after 1986. I realize that most were under non disclosure agreements but now that Prince is gone, they're all free to talk (and I'm sure many are eager to).


Podcasters have interviewd Scotty Baldwin, Morris Hayes, Dave Hampton. I find them all fascinating and you have to take them all into account to get a full picture of the man.
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Reply #9 posted 11/11/17 5:42am

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databank said:



anangellooksdown said:


databank said:


While I'm extremely grateful to Susan for sharing all the stories she's shared with us over the years, I wish journalists would interview engineers from later periods a little more.


.


It's like 75% of Prince-related interviews are Susan and members of the Pre-Revolution and Revolution band, while Prince has worked with dozens of musicians and engineers after 1986. I realize that most were under non disclosure agreements but now that Prince is gone, they're all free to talk (and I'm sure many are eager to).



Exactly. While some things about Prince stayed the same, this man lived an ENTIRE LIFE - just as we all have, lol...- since 1986 for gosh sakes! They did interview Scotty Baldwin and that was insightful, if you could get past his ego! WOW. lol

Overall I find it very sad that for most people, including some fans, Prince's career ended somewhere between 1986 and 1995. For me it ended in 2016 and I'm equally interested in each chapter of the journey. If we compare the amount of knowledge we have for recording sessions and Prince's life for each period, for each post-1990 fact we know of, we know 30 facts from the 80's. There's a goldmine of things to be revealed and stories to be told.


Some of his biggest career highlights happened after his WB days. Like the Grammys performance with Beyoncé, RRHOF induction, Super Bowl, 21 nights at O2. That’s one reason I really love Afshin’s book. It’s focused on an era that doesn’t get enough attention.
Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #10 posted 11/11/17 5:58am

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rogifan said:

databank said:



anangellooksdown said:


databank said:


While I'm extremely grateful to Susan for sharing all the stories she's shared with us over the years, I wish journalists would interview engineers from later periods a little more.


.


It's like 75% of Prince-related interviews are Susan and members of the Pre-Revolution and Revolution band, while Prince has worked with dozens of musicians and engineers after 1986. I realize that most were under non disclosure agreements but now that Prince is gone, they're all free to talk (and I'm sure many are eager to).



Exactly. While some things about Prince stayed the same, this man lived an ENTIRE LIFE - just as we all have, lol...- since 1986 for gosh sakes! They did interview Scotty Baldwin and that was insightful, if you could get past his ego! WOW. lol

Overall I find it very sad that for most people, including some fans, Prince's career ended somewhere between 1986 and 1995. For me it ended in 2016 and I'm equally interested in each chapter of the journey. If we compare the amount of knowledge we have for recording sessions and Prince's life for each period, for each post-1990 fact we know of, we know 30 facts from the 80's. There's a goldmine of things to be revealed and stories to be told.


Some of his biggest career highlights happened after his WB days. Like the Grammys performance with Beyoncé, RRHOF induction, Super Bowl, 21 nights at O2. That’s one reason I really love Afshin’s book. It’s focused on an era that doesn’t get enough attention.


I concur that after Prince passed, this was the era that got the attention last.
It's like we're all exploring his life and career in basically the same order:

Most recent (HNR)/Montreux 2013
AOA (album)
2006 but only SNL & Super Bowl performances
The "Mayte" years
revisiting PR/discovering other real early stuff ("For You" & "Prince")
Re-visiting AOA again (concerts)
Then the last has been this era (early-mid 2000s).
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Reply #11 posted 11/13/17 2:57am

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anangellooksdown said:

databank said:

While I'm extremely grateful to Susan for sharing all the stories she's shared with us over the years, I wish journalists would interview engineers from later periods a little more.

.

It's like 75% of Prince-related interviews are Susan and members of the Pre-Revolution and Revolution band, while Prince has worked with dozens of musicians and engineers after 1986. I realize that most were under non disclosure agreements but now that Prince is gone, they're all free to talk (and I'm sure many are eager to).

Exactly. While some things about Prince stayed the same, this man lived an ENTIRE LIFE - just as we all have, lol...- since 1986 for gosh sakes! They did interview Scotty Baldwin and that was insightful, if you could get past his ego! WOW. lol

not saying you're wrong but i didn't notice any real ego from Scotty, he sounded like a nerd though and nerds tend to be anal. anyway, there are all kinds of interviews out there from all eras, they don't even get mentioned hear Wally Safford had a great one i loved recently but there are many, many others, i don't even have time to keep up on all of them.

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Reply #12 posted 11/13/17 3:40am

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PeteSilas said:



anangellooksdown said:


databank said:


While I'm extremely grateful to Susan for sharing all the stories she's shared with us over the years, I wish journalists would interview engineers from later periods a little more.


.


It's like 75% of Prince-related interviews are Susan and members of the Pre-Revolution and Revolution band, while Prince has worked with dozens of musicians and engineers after 1986. I realize that most were under non disclosure agreements but now that Prince is gone, they're all free to talk (and I'm sure many are eager to).



Exactly. While some things about Prince stayed the same, this man lived an ENTIRE LIFE - just as we all have, lol...- since 1986 for gosh sakes! They did interview Scotty Baldwin and that was insightful, if you could get past his ego! WOW. lol

not saying you're wrong but i didn't notice any real ego from Scotty, he sounded like a nerd though and nerds tend to be anal. anyway, there are all kinds of interviews out there from all eras, they don't even get mentioned hear Wally Safford had a great one i loved recently but there are many, many others, i don't even have time to keep up on all of them.



He was totally egotistical. Moreso than any other associate or employee I've ever heard speak since after Prince's passing. He was still angry with Prince too about some things. As if to be competitive with him or the like.
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Reply #13 posted 11/13/17 3:41am

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Maybe Prince didn't treat him the way he wanted to be treated; I don't know. But I know what I heard, that's for sure.
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Reply #14 posted 11/13/17 6:49am

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anangellooksdown said:

PeteSilas said:

not saying you're wrong but i didn't notice any real ego from Scotty, he sounded like a nerd though and nerds tend to be anal. anyway, there are all kinds of interviews out there from all eras, they don't even get mentioned hear Wally Safford had a great one i loved recently but there are many, many others, i don't even have time to keep up on all of them.

He was totally egotistical. Moreso than any other associate or employee I've ever heard speak since after Prince's passing. He was still angry with Prince too about some things. As if to be competitive with him or the like.

are you referring to the podcast with, hell, whats' the guys name? He didn't sound that pissed off he said they'd been through it before and that he always came back. I didn't interpret as angry, rather he didn't like his ass being ridden when he felt he was doing a great job, which he probably was. Prince, as much as we love him, was difficult. I'd agree with rogers that he had to be. I've worked with musicians in my career and they are a pain in the ass, i'm a nice guy so i' prefer to work alone but the older i got the more i understood that man. If you take out that one quality of his, it's very possible there would have never been a prince.

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PeteSilas said:



anangellooksdown said:


PeteSilas said:


not saying you're wrong but i didn't notice any real ego from Scotty, he sounded like a nerd though and nerds tend to be anal. anyway, there are all kinds of interviews out there from all eras, they don't even get mentioned hear Wally Safford had a great one i loved recently but there are many, many others, i don't even have time to keep up on all of them.



He was totally egotistical. Moreso than any other associate or employee I've ever heard speak since after Prince's passing. He was still angry with Prince too about some things. As if to be competitive with him or the like.

are you referring to the podcast with, hell, whats' the guys name? He didn't sound that pissed off he said they'd been through it before and that he always came back. I didn't interpret as angry, rather he didn't like his ass being ridden when he felt he was doing a great job, which he probably was. Prince, as much as we love him, was difficult. I'd agree with rogers that he had to be. I've worked with musicians in my career and they are a pain in the ass, i'm a nice guy so i' prefer to work alone but the older i got the more i understood that man. If you take out that one quality of his, it's very possible there would have never been a prince.



The guy had a huge ego, Prince aside.
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Reply #17 posted 11/13/17 8:09am

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anangellooksdown said:

PeteSilas said:

are you referring to the podcast with, hell, whats' the guys name? He didn't sound that pissed off he said they'd been through it before and that he always came back. I didn't interpret as angry, rather he didn't like his ass being ridden when he felt he was doing a great job, which he probably was. Prince, as much as we love him, was difficult. I'd agree with rogers that he had to be. I've worked with musicians in my career and they are a pain in the ass, i'm a nice guy so i' prefer to work alone but the older i got the more i understood that man. If you take out that one quality of his, it's very possible there would have never been a prince.

The guy had a huge ego, Prince aside.

anyone else agree with angel here? Maybe i heard the interview wrong.

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