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Reply #240 posted 11/08/17 4:56pm

FlyOnTheWall

PennyPurple said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Are you sure? If so, please answer this question for me: without some public announcement, exactly HOW would we have "known about it a long time ago" if Prince had a child...with Cat or anyone else, for that matter?

Because anybody who had P's child would be screaming it to the top of her lungs, especially now when the entire Estate could be that child's.

I don't know if you've read the entire thread, but, as has been explained several times herein, the hurdles to getting to the point of genetic testing in the State of Minnesota are considerable, especially in the case of a child who was adopted and raised by someone else or a child whose birth certificate lists a father other than the alleged biological father.

And, please consider this. Sometimes, if a person can't scream at the top of her (or his) lungs about a perceived wrong, he or she will make a mighty noise about something else...and, while so doing, also cleverly find a way to draw attention to the REAL cause for his/her outrage.

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Reply #241 posted 11/08/17 4:58pm

ThatWhiteDude

Okay biggrin

purplerabbithole said:

Sorry, I was sort of re-stating your question/point. My post was a general statement about where this thread is going...I am with Rogifan on this one...WTF???

ThatWhiteDude said:

I was asking if people jumped to the conclusion that Prince had any children besides Amiir. I didn't say that he had other children.

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Reply #242 posted 11/08/17 5:05pm

purplerabbitho
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Don't be cryptic. I am done. You oughtta ask Cat or whomever you are talking about to clarify.

FlyOnTheWall said:

PennyPurple said:

Because anybody who had P's child would be screaming it to the top of her lungs, especially now when the entire Estate could be that child's.

I don't know if you've read the entire thread, but, as has been explained several times herein, the hurdles to getting to the point of genetic testing in the State of Minnesota are considerable, especially in the case of a child who was adopted and raised by someone else or a child whose birth certificate lists a father other than the alleged biological father.

And, please consider this. Sometimes, if a person can't scream at the top of her (or his) lungs about a perceived wrong, he or she will make a mighty noise about something else...and, while so doing, also cleverly find a way to draw attention to the REAL cause for his/her outrage.

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Reply #243 posted 11/08/17 5:48pm

purplefam99

Way back in this thread it is mentioned that she started the rumor on her
Own FB page, but then started back tracking.
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Reply #244 posted 11/08/17 5:51pm

purplefam99

I think that this angle “perhaps” puts her rants in a different light.
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Reply #245 posted 11/08/17 5:57pm

Strawberrylova
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purplefam99 said:

Way back in this thread it is mentioned that she started the rumor on her
Own FB page, but then started back tracking.

"Starts to whistle" 😛
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Reply #246 posted 11/08/17 6:06pm

laurarichardso
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PennyPurple said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Are you sure? If so, please answer this question for me: without some public announcement, exactly HOW would we have "known about it a long time ago" if Prince had a child...with Cat or anyone else, for that matter?

Because anybody who had P's child would be screaming it to the top of her lungs, especially now when the entire Estate could be that child's.

Not if they signed a settlement or a trust with a shut up clause. They would lose all of the money.

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Reply #247 posted 11/08/17 6:08pm

laurarichardso
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FlyOnTheWall said:

KoolEaze said:

What makes you say that ? I haven´t read Mayté´s book so I don´t know much about that except for the stuff that was posted on L4OA after the split (regarding food and nail polish, etc. ) I found that inappropriate. But other than that, I haven´t heard much bad stuff.

Have you read Mayte´s book?

And....how did thread turn into a thread where some people assume that Prince had children?

Have I missed something? IF he had had children with Cat, we would´ve known about it a long time ago.

Are you sure? If so, please answer this question for me: without some public announcement, exactly HOW would we have "known about it a long time ago" if Prince had a child...with Cat or anyone else, for that matter?

Nobody would know unless he wanted them to know. We had no idea what happed to his son until those two idiots nannies started talking to the press.

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Reply #248 posted 11/08/17 6:11pm

purplefam99

Strawberrylova123 said:

purplefam99 said:

Way back in this thread it is mentioned that she started the rumor on her
Own FB page, but then started back tracking.

"Starts to whistle" 😛


:) I think it is worth discussing cause if remotely possible it puts
A lot of her angst in context.
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Reply #249 posted 11/08/17 6:14pm

purplefam99

laurarichardson said:



FlyOnTheWall said:




KoolEaze said:



What makes you say that ? I haven´t read Mayté´s book so I don´t know much about that except for the stuff that was posted on L4OA after the split (regarding food and nail polish, etc. ) I found that inappropriate. But other than that, I haven´t heard much bad stuff.


Have you read Mayte´s book?


And....how did thread turn into a thread where some people assume that Prince had children?


Have I missed something? IF he had had children with Cat, we would´ve known about it a long time ago.



Are you sure? If so, please answer this question for me: without some public announcement, exactly HOW would we have "known about it a long time ago" if Prince had a child...with Cat or anyone else, for that matter?



Nobody would know unless he wanted them to know. We had no idea what happed to his son until those two idiots nannies started talking to the press.



Idiots indeed.
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Reply #250 posted 11/08/17 7:14pm

purplerabbitho
le

i am sorry but that just smells of opportunism. She might have taken it back because it was B.S and she felt guilty about starting a rumor for the sake of attention (or because Prince could stick the lawyers on her ) . . I like things about Cat as did P obviously. But her entire facebook is Lovesexy/SOTT and pictures of herself in SOTT garb holding P's guitar.. I think she probably liked Prince but she wants attention for her past affliation with P (just like everyone else.). Compare her facebook to MOrris Day and the Time's, for example. Morris can talk some shit and has no problem promoting himself, his past and his past with P, but his tributes to Pricne also include clips of stuff he was not involved with (clips of just P doing his thing away from Morris or the Time.)

People talked shit about Prince in the past when he was alive; I imagine his baby mama from 30 years ago could do the same. Plus, what is stopping her now from coming forth with the truth for a book deal. A book deal would probably garner much more than the stipend the estate would probably give her to keep her secret.

purplefam99 said:

Way back in this thread it is mentioned that she started the rumor on her Own FB page, but then started back tracking.

[Edited 11/8/17 19:18pm]

[Edited 11/8/17 19:22pm]

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Reply #251 posted 11/08/17 7:28pm

PennyPurple

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purplerabbithole said:

Don't be cryptic. I am done. You oughtta ask Cat or whomever you are talking about to clarify.

FlyOnTheWall said:

I don't know if you've read the entire thread, but, as has been explained several times herein, the hurdles to getting to the point of genetic testing in the State of Minnesota are considerable, especially in the case of a child who was adopted and raised by someone else or a child whose birth certificate lists a father other than the alleged biological father.

And, please consider this. Sometimes, if a person can't scream at the top of her (or his) lungs about a perceived wrong, he or she will make a mighty noise about something else...and, while so doing, also cleverly find a way to draw attention to the REAL cause for his/her outrage.

I've read the thread, and I still believe if anybody had P's child, that they would have come forward, the Estate is and is going to be, much more then that child ever got from P. I don't care what was signed, they would've come out as soon as Tyka marched in with the papers claiming no will and giving the names of the possible heirs. And if P had a contract with the mother(s) then that would've been presented in court too. And if nothing else, let that child proclaim to the world that they were P's son or daughter.


And I also know what it means to a child to have a dad that flitters in and out of their life, and only pays his 'damn' child support as he called it. The ones I feel sorry for are the kids, who have to live the rest of their lives like that.


And I'm not saying that is what P has done, because as far as most of us know he didn't have children, but I think several fans would be mighty disappointed in him, IF he didn't participate in his child(ren) lives.

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Reply #252 posted 11/08/17 7:34pm

purplerabbitho
le

I don't think he had any kids for the reason you stated and for other reasons (book deals, etc) . . As for participating in his children's lives, there would be no way to know unless the mom described the situation. In his defense, (if it is true and if his involvement was limited), those kids might have had a great step-dad and P might hve known his lifestyle sucked for parenting.

Back to what you said, some folks on here stated that Minnesota Laws make it hard to prove paternity sometimes, ---well, I say, even if it were a challenge, most people aren't stupid enough not to at least make an attempt to attain money from the estate after he died.

PennyPurple said:

purplerabbithole said:

Don't be cryptic. I am done. You oughtta ask Cat or whomever you are talking about to clarify.

I've read the thread, and I still believe if anybody had P's child, that they would have come forward, the Estate is and is going to be, much more then that child ever got from P. I don't care what was signed, they would've come out as soon as Tyka marched in with the papers claiming no will and giving the names of the possible heirs. And if P had a contract with the mother(s) then that would've been presented in court too. And if nothing else, let that child proclaim to the world that they were P's son or daughter.


And I also know what it means to a child to have a dad that flitters in and out of their life, and only pays his 'damn' child support as he called it. The ones I feel sorry for are the kids, who have to live the rest of their lives like that.


And I'm not saying that is what P has done, because as far as most of us know he didn't have children, but I think several fans would be mighty disappointed in him, IF he didn't participate in his child(ren) lives.

[Edited 11/8/17 19:37pm]

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Reply #253 posted 11/08/17 8:15pm

purplefam99

purplerabbithole said:

I don't think he had any kids for the reason you stated and for other reasons (book deals, etc) . . As for participating in his children's lives, there would be no way to know unless the mom described the situation. In his defense, (if it is true and if his involvement was limited), those kids might have had a great step-dad and P might hve known his lifestyle sucked for parenting.



Back to what you said, some folks on here stated that Minnesota Laws make it hard to prove paternity sometimes, ---well, I say, even if it were a challenge, most people aren't stupid enough not to at least make an attempt to attain money from the estate after he died.







PennyPurple said:




purplerabbithole said:


Don't be cryptic. I am done. You oughtta ask Cat or whomever you are talking about to clarify.






I've read the thread, and I still believe if anybody had P's child, that they would have come forward, the Estate is and is going to be, much more then that child ever got from P. I don't care what was signed, they would've come out as soon as Tyka marched in with the papers claiming no will and giving the names of the possible heirs. And if P had a contract with the mother(s) then that would've been presented in court too. And if nothing else, let that child proclaim to the world that they were P's son or daughter.



And I also know what it means to a child to have a dad that flitters in and out of their life, and only pays his 'damn' child support as he called it. The ones I feel sorry for are the kids, who have to live the rest of their lives like that.



And I'm not saying that is what P has done, because as far as most of us know he didn't have children, but I think several fans would be mighty disappointed in him, IF he didn't participate in his child(ren) lives.



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What about the idea of a trust or settlement that required the info to stay private, if they spoke up it could make that agreement void. Then you get nothing of what you were getting, in the hope of getting something else. I think staying quite is the better option. ESP if you know who your father is. Why does the world need to know, maybe they realize it really doesn’t make a diff when you know the truth. ( please don’t get upset with this convo, that is all it is just a convo)

I don’t think he is above asking any baby mama to be quiet. Stars used to conceal
If they were married in order to maintain allure. It was quite common for stars. Doesn’t mean he didn’t love them even if he was more or less absentee parent.
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Reply #254 posted 11/08/17 8:28pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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purplefam99 said:

What about the idea of a trust or settlement that required the info to stay private, if they spoke up it could make that agreement void. Then you get nothing of what you were getting, in the hope of getting something else. I think staying quite is the better option. ESP if you know who your father is. Why does the world need to know, maybe they realize it really doesn’t make a diff when you know the truth. ( please don’t get upset with this convo, that is all it is just a convo) I don’t think he is above asking any baby mama to be quiet. Stars used to conceal If they were married in order to maintain allure. It was quite common for stars. Doesn’t mean he didn’t love them even if he was more or less absentee parent.

This is exactly how it works.

blunt

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Reply #255 posted 11/09/17 12:42am

rogifan

Why do I get the feeling some want it to be true that Prince fathered a child/children with Cat. Weird.
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Reply #256 posted 11/09/17 2:58am

FlyOnTheWall

rogifan said:

Why do I get the feeling some want it to be true that Prince fathered a child/children with Cat. Weird.

What's really "weird," IMHO, is the resistance by some to even the slightest possibility that he fathered a secret child/children...and not just with Cat, but with anyone.

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Reply #257 posted 11/09/17 3:35am

purplerabbitho
le

None of this shit is the "SLIGHTEST POSSIBILITY"..It is full out rumors (stated by you with no proof and based on Cat's statement that was taken back and contradicted years ago) while others jump onto the notion with detailed speculation.

FlyOnTheWall said:

rogifan said:

Why do I get the feeling some want it to be true that Prince fathered a child/children with Cat. Weird.

What's really "weird," IMHO, is the resistance by some to even the slightest possibility that he fathered a secret child/children...and not just with Cat, but with anyone.

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Reply #258 posted 11/09/17 4:22am

laurarichardso
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No, unless Prince was shooting blanks he could have of had a child with anyone women he was with unless I missed something in Biology class. For years rumors have been going that Troy Beyer had a miscarrige.

purplerabbithole said:

None of this shit is the "SLIGHTEST POSSIBILITY"..It is full out rumors (stated by you with no proof and based on Cat's statement that was taken back and contradicted years ago) while others jump onto the notion with detailed speculation.

FlyOnTheWall said:

What's really "weird," IMHO, is the resistance by some to even the slightest possibility that he fathered a secret child/children...and not just with Cat, but with anyone.

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Reply #259 posted 11/09/17 4:23am

rogifan

FlyOnTheWall said:



rogifan said:


Why do I get the feeling some want it to be true that Prince fathered a child/children with Cat. Weird.

What's really "weird," IMHO, is the resistance by some to even the slightest possibility that he fathered a secret child/children...and not just with Cat, but with anyone.


It’s not resistance it’s just not something I think about. But for some it seems incredibly important this happened. I’m not sure why.
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Reply #260 posted 11/09/17 4:39am

rogifan

purplerabbithole said:

None of this shit is the "SLIGHTEST POSSIBILITY"..It is full out rumors (stated by you with no proof and based on Cat's statement that was taken back and contradicted years ago) while others jump onto the notion with detailed speculation.



I just don’t get why some are wishing or hoping it to be true. Why? For their hope or wish to be true that would mean he either had children out there he didn’t know about or did know about but was too embarrassed for the rest of the world to know. That would mean he was either not involved in their lives, or just giving them money or was somehow involved but it was kept totally secret. None of those scenarios makes Prince or the mother look good and are just sad all around. Especially considering how many associates have mentioned how much he enjoyed kids and enjoyed having kids around.
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Reply #261 posted 11/09/17 5:13am

Purplestar88

I am not buying that he had on kids. I don't believe anyone who would have a baby by Prince would keep it secret. It does not seem believeable to me. To me Cat is looking attention. The min the man died all these bogus claims out. It's sad.

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Reply #262 posted 11/09/17 5:29am

FlyOnTheWall

purplerabbithole said:

None of this shit is the "SLIGHTEST POSSIBILITY"..It is full out rumors (stated by you with no proof and based on Cat's statement that was taken back and contradicted years ago) while others jump onto the notion with detailed speculation.

FlyOnTheWall said:

What's really "weird," IMHO, is the resistance by some to even the slightest possibility that he fathered a secret child/children...and not just with Cat, but with anyone.

What statement did Cat make and then take back and/or contradict years ago???

[Edited 11/9/17 5:30am]

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Reply #263 posted 11/09/17 5:59am

purplerabbitho
le

FlyOnTheWall said:



purplerabbithole said:


None of this shit is the "SLIGHTEST POSSIBILITY"..It is full out rumors (stated by you with no proof and based on Cat's statement that was taken back and contradicted years ago) while others jump onto the notion with detailed speculation.





FlyOnTheWall said:



What's really "weird," IMHO, is the resistance by some to even the slightest possibility that he fathered a secret child/children...and not just with Cat, but with anyone.


This thread mentioned that Cat dropped the rumor on Facebook and then backtracked



What statement did Cat make and then take back and/or contradict years ago???

[Edited 11/9/17 5:30am]


This thread mentioned that Cat dropped the rumor on her Facebook and then backtracked
[Edited 11/9/17 6:01am]
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Reply #264 posted 11/09/17 6:53am

FlyOnTheWall

purplerabbithole said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

What statement did Cat make and then take back and/or contradict years ago???

[Edited 11/9/17 5:30am]

This thread mentioned that Cat dropped the rumor on her Facebook and then backtracked [Edited 11/9/17 6:01am]

Thanks. I have to look for that comment and repost my question.

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Reply #265 posted 11/09/17 7:37am

purplefam99

rogifan said:

Why do I get the feeling some want it to be true that Prince fathered a child/children with Cat. Weird.

to be clear i am just having a discussion on a discussion board, nothing more.

i have no dog in the hunt. no desire for a certain outcome. just puzzling possiblities.

so please don't read any "Want" or "desire" into what i type. Just think her percieved irrationality

maybe from a catch 22 struggle inside. Desperate to tell the world

yet bound by an agreement. who knows.

[Edited 11/9/17 7:58am]

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Reply #266 posted 11/09/17 7:44am

purplefam99

FlyOnTheWall said:

rogifan said:

Why do I get the feeling some want it to be true that Prince fathered a child/children with Cat. Weird.

What's really "weird," IMHO, is the resistance by some to even the slightest possibility that he fathered a secret child/children...and not just with Cat, but with anyone.

because there is the slightest possibilty here. i think the discussion has been polite.

i mean his father was virile, just saying.

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Reply #267 posted 11/09/17 7:56am

FlyOnTheWall

Strawberrylova123 said:

laurarichardson said:

Many rumors about her so it would be a bombshell if the rumors are true.

I was FB friends with cat she's the one who started this rumor and is now disputing it.

If you don't mind my asking, Strawberrylova123, exactly what did Cat say on her Facebook that makes you say that she started this, now, years-old rumor?

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Reply #268 posted 11/09/17 8:37am

Strawberrylova
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FlyOnTheWall said:



Strawberrylova123 said:


laurarichardson said:


Many rumors about her so it would be a bombshell if the rumors are true.



I was FB friends with cat she's the one who started this rumor and is now disputing it.

If you don't mind my asking, Strawberrylova123, exactly what did Cat say on her Facebook that makes you say that she started this, now, years-old rumor?


This was posted in 2012-2013 i don't remember word to word, lets move on from the cat baby daddy talk lol
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Reply #269 posted 11/09/17 8:40am

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FlyOnTheWall said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

laurarichardson said: I was FB friends with cat she's the one who started this rumor and is now disputing it.

If you don't mind my asking, Strawberrylova123, exactly what did Cat say on her Facebook that makes you say that she started this, now, years-old rumor?

I saw things she did too right up to 2016 prior to Prince passing where she would play around with the idea that Prince fathered one of her children.

Like there was a time she did a side-by-side photo of her daughter with the hazel eyes, and a photo of Prince, with a little caption

but never would say he was the father of course

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