laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:

If they lived in the same house traveler on the road together for two years she would have been able to sleep with him every night for at least a year to know what he was up to. She was at the 88 Grammies with him. I also remember Cat saying she went to a Birthday party that Prince had for Sheila E.

Once again she I believe she is discussing the pre/post SOTT period and according to the Mike Dean podcast with Eric Leeds Miles Davis had dinner with Sheila E, Eric, and John Nelson. Sheila even talks about the dinner in her book. Why are you so hell bent on making her out to be a lair when you believe everything Susannah has to say. Don't think it is weird she kept some old leg warmers. Why is Sheila some deluded lost women when she has been very open about their ups and downs even her getting tired of him and going back to Oakland from time to time. Do some research and come back. Also Prince and Vanity were seeing each other around Batman which has nothing to do with the group getting back together.

Stop Laurarichardson, I'm not making her out to be a liar, I'm not doing anything different from what you do when you question timetables. Hell you did it in this thread. I suspect in other places you really are trying to make people out to be a liar. But this is where things always go bad with you. You have to go into attack mode.

Yes I think it might have been the SOTT period too.

I never said she was a deluded lost woman. So stop exaggerating.

Even you questioned something she said when you posted she said during the Batman period she fell back in love again.

I was just adding that Brenda Bennett did talk about during that period the group getting back together which would only happen via Prince.

Stop going into attack mode and exaggerating. There is a thread in P&R about spilling the seed you can unleash in that is waiting for you.

purplefam99 said:

Again I just love how she says " I kept every card"

You need to get woke about MF issues lol

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While she was not able to move onward with another man,

Prince got married twice and had substantial relationships and short relations

Anna Fantastic (some say Madonna) Vanity Kim Bassinger Robin Power Troy Beyer Carmen Electra Nona Gaye Mayte(wife) Manuella Testiloni(wife) Bria Valente Andy Allo Judith Hill

possibly the dancer from the Chocolate Box video allegedly

and some randoms throught

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I love Sheila E, but she wasn't able to move forward romantically. Unless she really is bisexual and has had love with other women.

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It wasn't until the situation during the Welcome 2 tour that Sheila seemed to make a few huge steps forward. Prior to this she never really talked about her time with Prince, recordings etc (outside of the actual time she was in the camp 1984-1988 were the interviews) Then she did her book and she talked about the abuse and the relationship with Prince(business and romantic) and with Santana.
Neither of these two gave her wholeness.

Smokey ideas of love and keeping cards cannot bring her wholeness inside.

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

It isn't possible for them to be together day and night.

She wasn't with him during the 1988 Grammy show

She wasn't with him during 'Blue Tuesday' when he was with Cat & Anthony Keids and he met Ingrid Chevaz

She wasn't with him when he was hanging with Anna Fantastic

There is no way Prince would have been with her day and night.

She is talking in a romantically nostalgic way.

Yes the 1987-1988 period was like a whirlwind, but it isn't possible.

He wasn't with her the night he met Cat at his house with Eric & Miles Davis, not to mention Devin

She wasn't with him when he recorded Wally or went out some night clubs with Cat etc

If they lived in the same house traveler on the road together for two years she would have been able to sleep with him every night for at least a year to know what he was up to. She was at the 88 Grammies with him. I also remember Cat saying she went to a Birthday party that Prince had for Sheila E.

You said you believe she was talking about the SOTT period in the other post.

I know they travelled together on the tours and such. But even Sheila said

And he started seeing other people while I was there playing in the band. That was very hurtful, very hard.

If she was at the 1988 Grammy's with him then cool. I've never seen a picture of her there, only Prince & Alan Leeds. I've never seen a photo of Sheila E at the 1988 Grammy's show. I'm watching the 1988 Grammy's vid now and I don't see her.

In 1988, “U Got the Look” was nominated for 2 GRAMMY Awards: “Best R&B Peformance by a Duo or Group With Vocal” and “Best R&B Song”.

Yes Sheila E's birthday is December 12th

OldFriends4Sale said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

It isn't possible for them to be together day and night.

She wasn't with him during the 1988 Grammy show

She wasn't with him during 'Blue Tuesday' when he was with Cat & Anthony Keids and he met Ingrid Chevaz

She wasn't with him when he was hanging with Anna Fantastic

There is no way Prince would have been with her day and night.

She is talking in a romantically nostalgic way.

Yes the 1987-1988 period was like a whirlwind, but it isn't possible.

He wasn't with her the night he met Cat at his house with Eric & Miles Davis, not to mention Devin

She wasn't with him when he recorded Wally or went out some night clubs with Cat etc

If they lived in the same house traveler on the road together for two years she would have been able to sleep with him every night for at least a year to know what he was up to. She was at the 88 Grammies with him. I also remember Cat saying she went to a Birthday party that Prince had for Sheila E.

You said you believe she was talking about the SOTT period in the other post.

I know they travelled together on the tours and such. But even Sheila said

And he started seeing other people while I was there playing in the band. That was very hurtful, very hard.

If she was at the 1988 Grammy's with him then cool. I've never seen a picture of her there, only Prince & Alan Leeds. I've never seen a photo of Sheila E at the 1988 Grammy's show. I'm watching the 1988 Grammy's vid now and I don't see her.

In 1988, “U Got the Look” was nominated for 2 GRAMMY Awards: “Best R&B Peformance by a Duo or Group With Vocal” and “Best R&B Song”.

Yes Sheila E's birthday is December 12th

It was the SOTT period, not the Lovesexy

Yes, during the Sign o' the Times Tour. I was playing drums and it was during "Purple Rain." That song always made me cry. We were so into it. The way he played – my God. My eyes were closed a lot during that song. It was just so emotional. Musically, you know when you get to that place where you're just one? We hit that place. And when I opened my eyes, I could see his eyes were opening as well. He turned and looked at me during his solo and that's when he asked me to marry him and I said yes. We were still playing the song.

Not trying to veer off topic but does anyone know why they fell out in 2012?

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

You said you believe she was talking about the SOTT period in the other post.

I know they travelled together on the tours and such. But even Sheila said

And he started seeing other people while I was there playing in the band. That was very hurtful, very hard.

If she was at the 1988 Grammy's with him then cool. I've never seen a picture of her there, only Prince & Alan Leeds. I've never seen a photo of Sheila E at the 1988 Grammy's show. I'm watching the 1988 Grammy's vid now and I don't see her.

In 1988, “U Got the Look” was nominated for 2 GRAMMY Awards: “Best R&B Peformance by a Duo or Group With Vocal” and “Best R&B Song”.

Yes Sheila E's birthday is December 12th

I remember seeing a pic of her there and even if she was not what does that have to do with the previous year?

Maybe if you weren't so quick to go into attack mode you would have gotten the point?

That Sheila E was not with him day and night for a year.

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Blue Tuesday was 12.1.1987 during the SOTT period (the night he spent with Chavez at Paisley Park),

Sheila E was not around. Only Prince Cat Anthony Keids Susan Rogers Ingrid Chavez Karen Krattinger etc

“For the rest of that year my relationship with Prince was a dream ... We were with each other all day and all night, so if he was fooling around on me, he would have had to be quick about it.”

Sadly for the couple, Prince’s six-month Lovesexy Tour (1988-89) put a strain on their relationship and they broke up shortly after. "Things were changing, the new music he was writing didn't feel right for me -- lyrically it was not saying much, he was cursing again and I had stopped cursing, and where was the melody? And I just didn't want to be around him,” she confessed.

Escovedo writes that she had always been disturbed by “the harem” around him, but working and playing together day in, night out, proved too much. They tried to keep it on the down low, but people knew.

And now, she and Prince weren’t even “a constant” couple.

“I tried to ignore the sadness I felt about not being the only woman in his life, but I learned to deal with it early on,” she writes.

But she was also growing uncomfortable with his artistic direction. “His songs were getting too dirty for my tastes,” she writes. “It just wasn’t fun to be around.”

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music/sheila-e-confirms-engagement-prince-new-memoir-article-1.1914774

We had a great life together, we really did, good and bad, the ups and the downs, there were a lot of downs too. But at one point I told him, 'I’m not here to play your music to get paid because it’s money, money has nothing to do with it, I’m here because I love you. I don’t care about your money.’ So I told him to stop paying me when we were out on tour. That really upset him. That was during the Lovesexy Tour.

And that was when –

That’s when I knew I was gonna leave, that was about '88, '89.

in 2014 she gave the reason she told him to stop paying

On the next tour, Prince refused to let her fly home for her grandmother’s funeral. “He was my boss, he reminded me. He signed the paychecks,” she writes. She stayed, but after that she refused to cash those checks, sometimes tearing them up in front of him. It was all but over.

BY Sherryl Connelly

purplefam99 said:

Again I just love how she says " I kept every card"

she couldn't move forward because of the below

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Escovedo faded from Prince’s life as she immersed herself in a new spirituality. The time had come, she writes, to deal with the ravages of sexual abuse she had endured as a child and mature into a new life.

In the years since, she’s kept up the beat, working steadily with likes of Beyoncé and Jennifer Lopez while making appearances on reality shows like “Gone Country.”

“The Beat of My Own Drum” goes on sale Sept. 2.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music/sheila-e-confirms-engagement-prince-new-memoir-article-1.1914774

purplefam99 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

You need to get woke about MF issues lol

.

While she was not able to move onward with another man,

Prince got married twice and had substantial relationships and short relations

Anna Fantastic (some say Madonna) Vanity Kim Bassinger Robin Power Troy Beyer Carmen Electra Nona Gaye Mayte(wife) Manuella Testiloni(wife) Bria Valente Andy Allo Judith Hill

possibly the dancer from the Chocolate Box video allegedly

and some randoms throught

.

I love Sheila E, but she wasn't able to move forward romantically. Unless she really is bisexual and has had love with other women.

.

It wasn't until the situation during the Welcome 2 tour that Sheila seemed to make a few huge steps forward. Prior to this she never really talked about her time with Prince, recordings etc (outside of the actual time she was in the camp 1984-1988 were the interviews) Then she did her book and she talked about the abuse and the relationship with Prince(business and romantic) and with Santana.
Neither of these two gave her wholeness.

Smokey ideas of love and keeping cards cannot bring her wholeness inside.

Thanks for your fortitude with your replies, but I'm not looking for A man's view into a women's heart today, but thanks for your effort. [Edited 10/11/17 14:30pm]

LOL

Steve Harvey wrote a book called Act Like a Lady, Think Like a Man

I guess you've never taken love advise from a father grandfather uncle cousin brother male friend

You don't know Sheila's heart. She ha stated she in 2014 in her book that she just wrote that it was time to deal with the RAVAGES of SEXUAL ABUSE

do you really think someone can have healthy relationships if that hasn't been dealt with?
This is with men or women. And men have unrequited love too. Most men easily move on sexually. Women don't. Sophia Petrillo(character) said "Hoes just heal quicker" and Sheila wasn't a ho.

Men go through the same things.

But dreamy romantic dreams only cause heartache in the long run.

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Stop Laurarichardson, I'm not making her out to be a liar, I'm not doing anything different from what you do when you question timetables. Hell you did it in this thread. I suspect in other places you really are trying to make people out to be a liar. But this is where things always go bad with you. You have to go into attack mode.

Yes I think it might have been the SOTT period too.

I never said she was a deluded lost woman. So stop exaggerating.

Even you questioned something she said when you posted she said during the Batman period she fell back in love again.

I was just adding that Brenda Bennett did talk about during that period the group getting back together which would only happen via Prince.

Stop going into attack mode and exaggerating. There is a thread in P&R about spilling the seed you can unleash in that is waiting for you.

Do you want me to post the interview with Eric Leeds about who was at the dinner with Miles? Do you want me to find the Cat interview about the Birthday party? You have implied that Sheila was not with Prince every night for a year knowing that she toured with him for two years and lived in his house. Now you either believe her or you do not? If you do not believe her then she must be very deluded to write a book with these details and to continue to dicuss them 3 years later. I mean she would really have to deluded to keep making this stuff up. If you do not believe her fine that is your choice but there are facts to back up what she is saying.

Already done.

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These seem 2 be two seperate occasions
The dinner party with Eric Leeds Miles Davis Prince Sheila E was March 1987

the SOTT band was already formed and rehearsing

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the dinner party in Beverly Hills with Cat was early prior to her joining the band. So it had to be December 1986 January 1987 And It was Cat Steve Fargnoli, Devin DeVaquez and John Nelson.
Miles Davis nor Sheila E were at this event. That night they went to a club Voila and that is where Prince had Cat dance with her to Robert Palmers Simply Irresistable.
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And Prince would NOT have had Sheila E and Devin DeVaquez in the same dinner party

Not trying to veer of the current convo but does anyone know why they had a falling out around 2012?

Vashtix said:

purplefam99 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

LOL

Steve Harvey wrote a book called Act Like a Lady Think Like a Man

I guess you've never taken love advise from a father grandfather uncle cousin brother male friend

You don't know Sheila's heart. She ha stated she in 2014 in her book that she just wrote that it was time to deal with the RAVAGES of SEXUAL ABUSE

do you really think someone can have healthy relationships if that hasn't been dealt with?
This is with men or women. And men have unrequited love too. Most men easily move on sexually. Women don't. Sophia Petrillo(character) said "Hoes just heal quicker" and Sheila wasn't a ho.

Men go through the same things.

But dreamy romantic dreams only cause heartache in the long run.

Friend I'm not reading your stuff today.

reticent possibly

LOL

yeah you are lol

it is a dangerous thing to turn back into the darkness when light has revealed itself.
Pain heartache black candles and counselling along with some drinking or a lot of fasting and praying accompanies ignoring sound wisdom

0-> Darlin, I know them Smiths are all alike they can't keep it in their pants if Jesus came down and walked with em. Jimmy Smith has been cheatin since he came out the womb

0+ But Pa, I looove him, he treats me so nice and picks flower for me he makes me feel special

Vashtix said:

Not trying to veer of the current convo but does anyone know why they had a falling out around 2012?

http://prince.org/msg/7/410388

http://prince.org/msg/7/387349

Something happen between P and Sheila E?

are prince and sheila e. done musically with each other for good?

purplefam99 said:

His relationship with Sheila was the most like a real marriage, because of the Element of forgiveness and reconciliation. I'm glad that he had that full circle with her. In my view that is how I know the love wasn't unrequited. And why she will not give those cards away. She went full circle with him, Perhaps more than once. [Edited 10/11/17 15:20pm]

Why more than once? Because she was waiting for something he would not give...

She wanted faithfulness and to his one and only

Each time she broke it off with Prince was because there were other ladies

She had every right too

purplerabbithole said:

Do you buy those unsubstantiated rumors that she was gay? God, I would hate to think that P was just her beard (or straight male to lesbian equivalent) ? Wouldn't it be weird if P was referring to Sheila when he said his gay friends read the bible with him..LOL.

I mean has she dated anyone else that we know of??

Carlo's Santana.

OldFriends4Sale said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

purplefam99 said:

Ladies only just for a second. She has all those cards!!!!

I would have kept them, too!!!!