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Thread started 09/22/17 7:16pm

Strawberrylova
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Susannah Melvoin interview with RR auction .

Prince items from Susanna...uction ...

I love Susannah's voice tone

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Reply #1 posted 09/22/17 8:02pm

Strawberrylova
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Nice purple stories 😎😎
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Reply #2 posted 09/22/17 8:08pm

OldFriends4Sal
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nice.
So that note he sent her about the ballet was from 1996?

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Reply #3 posted 09/22/17 8:11pm

Strawberrylova
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OldFriends4Sale said:


nice.
So that note he sent her about the ballet was from 1996?




I think from the Gold experience era?? 1995
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Reply #4 posted 09/23/17 5:16am

anangellooksdo
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Listened to this last night. A few insights that were enjoyable.
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Reply #5 posted 09/23/17 7:42am

Strawberrylova
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anangellooksdown said:

Listened to this last night. A few insights that were enjoyable.

Yeah it's nice to hear Susannah speak, she barely does interviews
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Reply #6 posted 09/23/17 9:31am

purplerabbitho
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smart classy woman. I don't know all her motivations or feelings where P is concerned but she seems very sensible here. She understands that if you are going to sell stuff related to him, you need to do so with some respect for the man who owned the stuff in the first place. I loved the pireoutte (sic) story. I do think she has love in her heart for him even if it is more complicated than she probably reveals here.

I wasn't thrilled about these auctioned things at first. But she made a valid point about legacy. She knows that if she just wills it to her kids, they won't get the significance as much as a collector would. they wouldn't care for the items with the same delicacy and honor (and really why burden them with that responsibility) . She auctioned things with only positivity attached to them and waited a year and a half after his death to start the process of letting items go. And now we have loving stories to accompany it. She might need a little money but people have more than one motivation for their actions and I am okay with that.

[Edited 9/23/17 9:33am]

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Reply #7 posted 09/23/17 9:39am

Strawberrylova
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purplerabbithole said:

smart classy woman. I don't know all her motivations or feelings where P is concerned but she seems very sensible here. She understands that if you are going to sell stuff related to him, you need to do so with some respect for the man who owned the stuff in the first place. I loved the pireoutte (sic) story. I do think she has love in her heart for him even if it is more complicated than she probably reveals here.



I wasn't thrilled about these auctioned things at first. But she made a valid point about legacy. She knows that if she just wills it to her kids, they won't get the significance as much as a collector would. they wouldn't care for the items with the same delicacy and honor (and really why burden them with that responsibility) . She auctioned things with only positivity attached to them and waited a year and a half after his death to start the process of letting items go. And now we have loving stories to accompany it. She might need a little money but people have more than one motivation for their actions and I am okay with that.





[Edited 9/23/17 9:33am]


Yep! She is part of music history now
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Reply #8 posted 09/23/17 9:50am

purplerabbitho
le

Don't get me wrong. she is probably trying to claim her little piece of the purple pie but so far, she is doing it in a positive way and you can tell by the way she justifies her actions that she has thought hard about it with consideration for his legacy etc. If she writes a book, I hope she has the kind of maturity to make it clear why she loved this man in the first place (despite his flaws and some of her hurt feelings) while being honest about any mixed feelings she might have about him, herself and her place in Prince world.

Strawberrylova123 said:

purplerabbithole said:

smart classy woman. I don't know all her motivations or feelings where P is concerned but she seems very sensible here. She understands that if you are going to sell stuff related to him, you need to do so with some respect for the man who owned the stuff in the first place. I loved the pireoutte (sic) story. I do think she has love in her heart for him even if it is more complicated than she probably reveals here.

I wasn't thrilled about these auctioned things at first. But she made a valid point about legacy. She knows that if she just wills it to her kids, they won't get the significance as much as a collector would. they wouldn't care for the items with the same delicacy and honor (and really why burden them with that responsibility) . She auctioned things with only positivity attached to them and waited a year and a half after his death to start the process of letting items go. And now we have loving stories to accompany it. She might need a little money but people have more than one motivation for their actions and I am okay with that.

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Yep! She is part of music history now

[Edited 9/23/17 9:51am]

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Reply #9 posted 09/23/17 10:23am

OldFriends4Sal
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purplerabbithole said:

smart classy woman. I don't know all her motivations or feelings where P is concerned but she seems very sensible here. She understands that if you are going to sell stuff related to him, you need to do so with some respect for the man who owned the stuff in the first place. I loved the pireoutte (sic) story. I do think she has love in her heart for him even if it is more complicated than she probably reveals here.

I wasn't thrilled about these auctioned things at first. But she made a valid point about legacy. She knows that if she just wills it to her kids, they won't get the significance as much as a collector would. they wouldn't care for the items with the same delicacy and honor (and really why burden them with that responsibility) . She auctioned things with only positivity attached to them and waited a year and a half after his death to start the process of letting items go. And now we have loving stories to accompany it. She might need a little money but people have more than one motivation for their actions and I am okay with that.

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I appreciate this post purplerabbithole

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It just lined up with some things I've been reviewing about life in general and dealing with some things with my parents, and what happens 'tomorrow'. That dreaded day when they are no longer here. My parents had the 'talk' with me last year. Yucky.

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Denise Matthews & Prince's passing is just another strong reminder that we don't have tomorrow or another 30yrs promised. (especially with threats of nuclear wars all around us now) but, if people don't 'tell their stories' now, then when? when it is too late? That is my one pain with Prince, in that his 'I don't look back' concept might have held him off from doing a memoir earlier. I longed for something like that from Prince. 'Purple academians' will cherish these stories. So much background to go along with the music.

Eric Leeds is a part of this auction as well.

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Some people in other places said she should have given them to Paisley Park, but I don't know if Paisley Park right now, is the right place for these things. And your point about her children not knowing the 'musical historica' significance is on point.

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Reply #10 posted 09/23/17 5:58pm

endiadj

Another person who allegedly didn't have time for him while he was alive, all of a sudden have all the time in the world after he's dead to make a buck off of him. sad
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Reply #11 posted 09/23/17 6:20pm

OldFriends4Sal
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endiadj said:

Another person who allegedly didn't have time for him while he was alive, all of a sudden have all the time in the world after he's dead to make a buck off of him. sad

what does that mean?

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Reply #12 posted 09/23/17 6:32pm

purplerabbitho
le

Supposedly they talked three months before he died. If I recall correctly, according to Wendy, he asked how she was doing (divorce related, I believe). Unless P invited her to Paisley and was completely honest about how much he was struggling, how could she know how much help he needed or that he would die within the week? Plus, Prince didn't like being weak in front of people--its possible she could have traveled all the way up to PP and he still would have avoided seeing her or would have gave her the runaround and kept it brief..

Cut people not in his immediate circle a bit of a break. I do think they all may have advertedly or inadvertedly exploited his death a bit since he died, but that's doesn't mean we should assume that they knew he was on death's door and basically told him to go fuck himself.

endiadj said:

Another person who allegedly didn't have time for him while he was alive, all of a sudden have all the time in the world after he's dead to make a buck off of him. sad

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laurarichardso
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You are really missing the point. She was not involved in his life for 30 years this women saved some tatted leg warmers like some vulture waiting for him to die when she could have thrown it away or given some it back to him the point is she did not try and sell it when he was alive for a reason.

She talk all the bull she wants but at the end of the day she is doing this stuff to make a buck because her deadbeat husband will not support her and she will not get a job.

Think about Vanity and her 100,000.00 in medical bills and how she sold nothing and said very little.


purplerabbithole said:

Supposedly they talked three months before he died. If I recall correctly, according to Wendy, he asked how she was doing (divorce related, I believe). Unless P invited her to Paisley and was completely honest about how much he was struggling, how could she know how much help he needed or that he would die within the week? Plus, Prince didn't like being weak in front of people--its possible she could have traveled all the way up to PP and he still would have avoided seeing her or would have gave her the runaround and kept it brief..


Cut people not in his immediate circle a bit of a break. I do think they all may have advertedly or inadvertedly exploited his death a bit since he died, but that's doesn't mean we should assume that they knew he was on death's door and basically told him to go fuck himself.






endiadj said:


Another person who allegedly didn't have time for him while he was alive, all of a sudden have all the time in the world after he's dead to make a buck off of him. sad

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Reply #14 posted 09/23/17 8:20pm

purplerabbitho
le

a.) I can live with her getting money off of Prince as long as she feels obligated to say something nice or find nice things to sell. She could sell things in a tacky tasteless way like Mayte. Remember her describing her wedding dress as tacky on tv when he was still alive.


b.) her justifications at least prove that she is thinking about not wanting to come off exploitative. And she has a valid point about how keeping that stuff to herself would likely mean her kids wouldn't know how to honor the possessions. these justifications prove that she at least had to feel alright with it in her own mind before proceeding. She has his leg warmers because he gave them to her when it was super cold outside. She explained that they were shredded from his heels. The stories about their love of ballet, how much they loved a second-hand store wand in glitter in it, his proposal (the handwriting is the florist's) , their shared interest in painting--those are lovely things to say. She doesn't even brag about herself except to imply that he liked her ballet dancing (which is why he sent her that letter in 1996 asking her to listen to his ballet) and that she was teaching him how to dance ballet..(come on, Prince not being a nature ballet dancer isn't exactly an insult.)

As for not selling it earlier, collectors wouldn't have cared earlier. They wouldn't have taken that stuff as seriously as she had. they might have been careless with it. Those willing to shell out money for that stuff now will take care of it better. Do you honestly think she decided in a calculated way to keep that stuff related to him for all those years just in case he happens to die a sad death so she can sell it more than 1 and a half years after his death.

laurarichardson said:

You are really missing the point. She was not involved in his life for 30 years this women saved some tatted leg warmers like some vulture waiting for him to die when she could have thrown it away or given some it back to him the point is she did not try and sell it when he was alive for a reason. She talk all the bull she wants but at the end of the day she is doing this stuff to make a buck because her deadbeat husband will not support her and she will not get a job. Think about Vanity and her 100,000.00 in medical bills and how she sold nothing and said very little. purplerabbithole said:

Supposedly they talked three months before he died. If I recall correctly, according to Wendy, he asked how she was doing (divorce related, I believe). Unless P invited her to Paisley and was completely honest about how much he was struggling, how could she know how much help he needed or that he would die within the week? Plus, Prince didn't like being weak in front of people--its possible she could have traveled all the way up to PP and he still would have avoided seeing her or would have gave her the runaround and kept it brief..

Cut people not in his immediate circle a bit of a break. I do think they all may have advertedly or inadvertedly exploited his death a bit since he died, but that's doesn't mean we should assume that they knew he was on death's door and basically told him to go fuck himself.

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Reply #15 posted 09/23/17 8:23pm

Strawberrylova
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endiadj said:

Another person who allegedly didn't have time for him while he was alive, all of a sudden have all the time in the world after he's dead to make a buck off of him. sad

How do u know this
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Reply #16 posted 09/23/17 8:33pm

laurarichardso
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She is just trying to make herself look good. Who the hell keeps some old shredded leg warmers from 30 years ago? Or proposal notes from your ex-boyfriend when you long since remarried? Must have made for an interesting conversation with her ex. People were auctioning off Prince's things before he passed away and he wound buy the stuff or send a cease and desist letter. Remember he was the one that said people stole stuff all the time.

As far as ballet is concerned we have already heard that he took Balket lessons with some art group when he was a teen so Susannah did not have to teach him ballet. Just more B.S from this lazy ass women. It is Prince's fault for having such bad taste.

purplerabbithole said:

a.) I can live with her getting money off of Prince as long as she feels obligated to say something nice or find nice things to sell. She could sell things in a tacky tasteless way like Mayte. Remember her describing her wedding dress as tacky on tv when he was still alive.



b.) her justifications at least prove that she is thinking about not wanting to come off exploitative. And she has a valid point about how keeping that stuff to herself would likely mean her kids wouldn't know how to honor the possessions. these justifications prove that she at least had to feel alright with it in her own mind before proceeding. She has his leg warmers because he gave them to her when it was super cold outside. She explained that they were shredded from his heels. The stories about their love of ballet, how much they loved a second-hand store wand in glitter in it, his proposal (the handwriting is the florist's) , their shared interest in painting--those are lovely things to say. She doesn't even brag about herself except to imply that he liked her ballet dancing (which is why he sent her that letter in 1996 asking her to listen to his ballet) and that she was teaching him how to dance ballet..(come on, Prince not being a nature ballet dancer isn't exactly an insult.)



As for not selling it earlier, collectors wouldn't have cared earlier. They wouldn't have taken that stuff as seriously as she had. they might have been careless with it. Those willing to shell out money for that stuff now will take care of it better. Do you honestly think she decided in a calculated way to keep that stuff related to him for all those years just in case he happens to die a sad death so she can sell it more than 1 and a half years after his death.





laurarichardson said:


You are really missing the point. She was not involved in his life for 30 years this women saved some tatted leg warmers like some vulture waiting for him to die when she could have thrown it away or given some it back to him the point is she did not try and sell it when he was alive for a reason. She talk all the bull she wants but at the end of the day she is doing this stuff to make a buck because her deadbeat husband will not support her and she will not get a job. Think about Vanity and her 100,000.00 in medical bills and how she sold nothing and said very little. purplerabbithole said:

Supposedly they talked three months before he died. If I recall correctly, according to Wendy, he asked how she was doing (divorce related, I believe). Unless P invited her to Paisley and was completely honest about how much he was struggling, how could she know how much help he needed or that he would die within the week? Plus, Prince didn't like being weak in front of people--its possible she could have traveled all the way up to PP and he still would have avoided seeing her or would have gave her the runaround and kept it brief..


Cut people not in his immediate circle a bit of a break. I do think they all may have advertedly or inadvertedly exploited his death a bit since he died, but that's doesn't mean we should assume that they knew he was on death's door and basically told him to go fuck himself.








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Reply #17 posted 09/23/17 8:55pm

purplerabbitho
le

She said she taught him a specific ballet move not all ballet. She might be lazy but does'nt mean she is lying here. She gave the specific street they were walking. Keeping some of his stuff for fond memories of her time dating a rock star.. why is that such a stretch when Wendy was still associated with Prince off and on for years. He was a part of their lives and they had some nice memories. I am sure future husbands would understand--he was Prince for fuck's sake. I am absolutely certain Ava Gardner kept stuff of Sinatra's and visa versa even after they hooked up with other folks.

laurarichardson said:

She is just trying to make herself look good. Who the hell keeps some old shredded leg warmers from 30 years ago? Or proposal notes from your ex-boyfriend when you long since remarried? Must have made for an interesting conversation with her ex. People were auctioning off Prince's things before he passed away and he wound buy the stuff or send a cease and desist letter. Remember he was the one that said people stole stuff all the time. As far as ballet is concerned we have already heard that he took Balket lessons with some art group when he was a teen so Susannah did not have to teach him ballet. Just more B.S from this lazy ass women. It is Prince's fault for having such bad taste. purplerabbithole said:

a.) I can live with her getting money off of Prince as long as she feels obligated to say something nice or find nice things to sell. She could sell things in a tacky tasteless way like Mayte. Remember her describing her wedding dress as tacky on tv when he was still alive.


b.) her justifications at least prove that she is thinking about not wanting to come off exploitative. And she has a valid point about how keeping that stuff to herself would likely mean her kids wouldn't know how to honor the possessions. these justifications prove that she at least had to feel alright with it in her own mind before proceeding. She has his leg warmers because he gave them to her when it was super cold outside. She explained that they were shredded from his heels. The stories about their love of ballet, how much they loved a second-hand store wand in glitter in it, his proposal (the handwriting is the florist's) , their shared interest in painting--those are lovely things to say. She doesn't even brag about herself except to imply that he liked her ballet dancing (which is why he sent her that letter in 1996 asking her to listen to his ballet) and that she was teaching him how to dance ballet..(come on, Prince not being a nature ballet dancer isn't exactly an insult.)

As for not selling it earlier, collectors wouldn't have cared earlier. They wouldn't have taken that stuff as seriously as she had. they might have been careless with it. Those willing to shell out money for that stuff now will take care of it better. Do you honestly think she decided in a calculated way to keep that stuff related to him for all those years just in case he happens to die a sad death so she can sell it more than 1 and a half years after his death.

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Reply #18 posted 09/23/17 9:03pm

laurarichardso
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Wendy is a working musician they worked together. I would not be surprised if he said hey once in a while but Guy's usually move on and any women clinging to this while married is either pathetic or is waiting to cash in. It is my opinion and I think she knows how she looks or she would not be trying to explain herself. I am glad you agree she is lazy and it will be interesting to see what she does when the money runs out from this sale.



said:

She said she taught him a specific ballet move not all ballet. She might be lazy but does'nt mean she is lying here. She gave the specific street they were walking. Keeping some of his stuff for fond memories of her time dating a rock star.. why is that such a stretch when Wendy was still associated with Prince off and on for years. He was a part of their lives and they had some nice memories. I am sure future husbands would understand--he was Prince for fuck's sake. I am absolutely certain Ava Gardner kept stuff of Sinatra's and visa versa even after they hooked up with other folks.







laurarichardson said:


She is just trying to make herself look good. Who the hell keeps some old shredded leg warmers from 30 years ago? Or proposal notes from your ex-boyfriend when you long since remarried? Must have made for an interesting conversation with her ex. People were auctioning off Prince's things before he passed away and he wound buy the stuff or send a cease and desist letter. Remember he was the one that said people stole stuff all the time. As far as ballet is concerned we have already heard that he took Balket lessons with some art group when he was a teen so Susannah did not have to teach him ballet. Just more B.S from this lazy ass women. It is Prince's fault for having such bad taste. purplerabbithole said:

a.) I can live with her getting money off of Prince as long as she feels obligated to say something nice or find nice things to sell. She could sell things in a tacky tasteless way like Mayte. Remember her describing her wedding dress as tacky on tv when he was still alive.



b.) her justifications at least prove that she is thinking about not wanting to come off exploitative. And she has a valid point about how keeping that stuff to herself would likely mean her kids wouldn't know how to honor the possessions. these justifications prove that she at least had to feel alright with it in her own mind before proceeding. She has his leg warmers because he gave them to her when it was super cold outside. She explained that they were shredded from his heels. The stories about their love of ballet, how much they loved a second-hand store wand in glitter in it, his proposal (the handwriting is the florist's) , their shared interest in painting--those are lovely things to say. She doesn't even brag about herself except to imply that he liked her ballet dancing (which is why he sent her that letter in 1996 asking her to listen to his ballet) and that she was teaching him how to dance ballet..(come on, Prince not being a nature ballet dancer isn't exactly an insult.)



As for not selling it earlier, collectors wouldn't have cared earlier. They wouldn't have taken that stuff as seriously as she had. they might have been careless with it. Those willing to shell out money for that stuff now will take care of it better. Do you honestly think she decided in a calculated way to keep that stuff related to him for all those years just in case he happens to die a sad death so she can sell it more than 1 and a half years after his death.







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Reply #19 posted 09/23/17 11:26pm

gwiliandre

laurarichardson said:

Wendy is a working musician they worked together. I would not be surprised if he said hey once in a while but Guy's usually move on and any women clinging to this while married is either pathetic or is waiting to cash in. It is my opinion and I think she knows how she looks or she would not be trying to explain herself. I am glad you agree she is lazy and it will be interesting to see what she does when the money runs out from this sale. said:

She said she taught him a specific ballet move not all ballet. She might be lazy but does'nt mean she is lying here. She gave the specific street they were walking. Keeping some of his stuff for fond memories of her time dating a rock star.. why is that such a stretch when Wendy was still associated with Prince off and on for years. He was a part of their lives and they had some nice memories. I am sure future husbands would understand--he was Prince for fuck's sake. I am absolutely certain Ava Gardner kept stuff of Sinatra's and visa versa even after they hooked up with other folks.

Dearest Laura. You are consistent in your vile filled rants. Rage much? Bottome line; It's none of your business. Don't worry your mind regarding what she does or does not do with monies resulting from her consignments.

Prince enjoyed extraordinary relationships, both professional and personal, with numerous women during his Blessed Life. Nobody appointed you judge nor jury of same. Whilst you claim to be so offended and flumuxoned by the Auction, you seem to spend an inordinate amount of time focusing your energy on something which is quite frankly NONE of your business. Perhaps your energy would be better served elsewhere. Volunteer. Find a hobby. Don't make it your life work to diminish disparage and verbally destroy the friends and loves of Dear Beautiful Prince. Respect and stay in your own line, Peace.

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Reply #20 posted 09/24/17 7:26am

OldFriends4Sal
e

yeah she took ballet, so I don't understand peoples issue with her teaching a move. It was just one turn/twirl move.

I don't know how she is lazy, from the time the Family band reconnected she's been working and touring.

and before that she's sung/written with/for Madonna Eric Clapton Seal Roger Waters Mike Oldfield Stevie Wonder, Erykah Badu, D'Angelo, Bilal, Oliver Leiber, Chaka Khan...

and others including Doyle Bramhall II who she ended up marrying. Who she was married to for about 10yrs with 2 kids. And of course with W&L CoEd(Sheila E) etc

I don't see how that constitutes 'lazy' . Maybe an issue with her being a woman, because no one is ripping Eric Leeds.

And it was Prince who wrote the note to her in 1995 about the Glam Slam 'ballet'

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the consignor affirms that Prince likewise wrote this note to Susannah to get her opinion on his ballet because of their shared love of dance. The couple's ballet connection dates to Susannah teaching Prince his first pirouette as they were walking down Melrose Avenue while recording the soundtrack to Purple Rain.

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Reply #21 posted 09/24/17 8:11am

OldFriends4Sal
e

* Not involved in his life for 30yrs? They continued to be friends the whole of Prince's life.

1. the note about the ballet 0+> wrote to Susannah in 1995 and then asked her to write him back. It is clear they continued to communicate

2. They were talking on the phone a lot during the time of FDeluxe. Then Prince got upset with her some time in the last few years on the phone, and then reconnected with her in the year before he died

3. He's had her on stage with him @ Paisley Park in 1989 during the US Lovesexy tour with Wendy & Lisa, he's had Susannah on stage with W & L during the ONA period to do A Love Bizarre and another song. Dedicated In This Bed I Scream to her Lisa & W on Emanicipation. Had her as one of the women on a possible all woman band in 1998 via the One video hidden messages

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* According to Denise Matthews she got rid of all of that stuff when she had her conversion. I cannot see her holding onto that stuff..

I got rid of all the lingerie and cleaned house,” she explained.

http://www.mustardseedstories.com/demons-wanted-me-the-testimony-of-denise-matthews-formerly-known-as-vanity/

The experience led to her religious conversion, as she said that she’d received a vision from Jesus as she lay dying. She said that God wanted her to metaphorically “kill” Vanity and she did, reportedly discarding every interview or recording of herself as the sexed-up pop star, distancing herself from the entertainment world, and going by her given name only: Denise Matthews.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/the-sexy-holy-saga-of-vanity-princes-muse-who-found-god

laurarichardson said:

You are really missing the point. She was not involved in his life for 30 years this women saved some tatted leg warmers like some vulture waiting for him to die when she could have thrown it away or given some it back to him the point is she did not try and sell it when he was alive for a reason. She talk all the bull she wants but at the end of the day she is doing this stuff to make a buck because her deadbeat husband will not support her and she will not get a job. Think about Vanity and her 100,000.00 in medical bills and how she sold nothing and said very little. purplerabbithole said:

Supposedly they talked three months before he died. If I recall correctly, according to Wendy, he asked how she was doing (divorce related, I believe). Unless P invited her to Paisley and was completely honest about how much he was struggling, how could she know how much help he needed or that he would die within the week? Plus, Prince didn't like being weak in front of people--its possible she could have traveled all the way up to PP and he still would have avoided seeing her or would have gave her the runaround and kept it brief..

Cut people not in his immediate circle a bit of a break. I do think they all may have advertedly or inadvertedly exploited his death a bit since he died, but that's doesn't mean we should assume that they knew he was on death's door and basically told him to go fuck himself.

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Reply #22 posted 09/24/17 12:03pm

pinkcashmere23

Enjoyed the interview.Thanks!

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Reply #23 posted 09/24/17 2:17pm

laurarichardso
n

1) One short note from 20 years ago in no proof of constant communication. In fact the only information we have concerning Susannah and Prince comes from the Melvoin sisters.

2) Some of the things you are discussing are once again from 20 to 30 years ago. The only communication that can be veriefied is the FX Deluxe and obviosily that did not end on a positive note

3) According to Vanity’s brother in law she has a storage been full of items including letters going up and until 2012. Some of this in snippets has been shared by her brother-law on this forum.

So she did not get rid of everything and she never auctioned anything off despite her medical bills.

OldFriends4Sale said:

* Not involved in his life for 30yrs? They continued to be friends the whole of Prince's life.

1. the note about the ballet 0+> wrote to Susannah in 1995 and then asked her to write him back. It is clear they continued to communicate

2. They were talking on the phone a lot during the time of FDeluxe. Then Prince got upset with her some time in the last few years on the phone, and then reconnected with her in the year before he died

3. He's had her on stage with him @ Paisley Park in 1989 during the US Lovesexy tour with Wendy & Lisa, he's had Susannah on stage with W & L during the ONA period to do A Love Bizarre and another song. Dedicated In This Bed I Scream to her Lisa & W on Emanicipation. Had her as one of the women on a possible all woman band in 1998 via the One video hidden messages

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* According to Denise Matthews she got rid of all of that stuff when she had her conversion. I cannot see her holding onto that stuff..

I got rid of all the lingerie and cleaned house,” she explained.

http://www.mustardseedstories.com/demons-wanted-me-the-testimony-of-denise-matthews-formerly-known-as-vanity/

The experience led to her religious conversion, as she said that she’d received a vision from Jesus as she lay dying. She said that God wanted her to metaphorically “kill” Vanity and she did, reportedly discarding every interview or recording of herself as the sexed-up pop star, distancing herself from the entertainment world, and going by her given name only: Denise Matthews.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/the-sexy-holy-saga-of-vanity-princes-muse-who-found-god

laurarichardson said:

You are really missing the point. She was not involved in his life for 30 years this women saved some tatted leg warmers like some vulture waiting for him to die when she could have thrown it away or given some it back to him the point is she did not try and sell it when he was alive for a reason. She talk all the bull she wants but at the end of the day she is doing this stuff to make a buck because her deadbeat husband will not support her and she will not get a job. Think about Vanity and her 100,000.00 in medical bills and how she sold nothing and said very little. purplerabbithole said:

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Reply #24 posted 09/24/17 3:53pm

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1. It is clear, that he was communicating with her. She wasn't in his camp anymore.

Susannah: My last contact with him was about the name of our band. He stopped talking to me. Completely. We’ve always talked throughout the years. But when it came to that it was the reason he’ll never talk to me again?

Susannah: We all tried to tell them that. The last time we spoke he heard my kids in the background, and my youngest one was little at the time, he said, “Is this a bad time?” I said, “No. I’m about to put my kids to sleep.” He had never actually heard that part of my world. It wasn’t a bad time. I said, “They are my concern but you have my time right now. “ He didn’t like that. He told Paul I was belligerent and that was enough for him. That’s 25 years of a friendship of sorts. I wouldn’t call it a real friendship. Prince said, “I’m done. I’m not going to speak to her. I’m only going to speak with you Paul,” And he had never spoken to Paul in any of the years. Ever.

2. Yes, and Wendy said he did contact her to get Susannah's number

3. I'm not talking about Vanity and Prince not communicating. I know they did. I'm talking about ridding herself of the Vanity personna and those things involved with that time period.

Life's a bitch and then you die

that's why we get high

Cause you never know when you're gonna go

4. She and Eric Leeds and others were approached about auctioning some things off. That her kids won't know or have a special significance to things and if she did die tomorrow may just go in the trash... that is life, and reasonable

As people move through various stages of grief via death parting with things that may be intimately valuable is a common response. Releasing it, releasing energy, closing chapters etc

laurarichardson said:

1) One short note from 20 years ago in no proof of constant communication. In fact the only information we have concerning Susannah and Prince comes from the Melvoin sisters.

2) Some of the things you are discussing are once again from 20 to 30 years ago. The only communication that can be veriefied is the FX Deluxe and obviosily that did not end on a positive note

3) According to Vanity’s brother in law she has a storage been full of items including letters going up and until 2012. Some of this in snippets has been shared by her brother-law on this forum.

So she did not get rid of everything and she never auctioned anything off despite her medical bills.

OldFriends4Sale said:

* Not involved in his life for 30yrs? They continued to be friends the whole of Prince's life.

1. the note about the ballet 0+> wrote to Susannah in 1995 and then asked her to write him back. It is clear they continued to communicate

2. They were talking on the phone a lot during the time of FDeluxe. Then Prince got upset with her some time in the last few years on the phone, and then reconnected with her in the year before he died

3. He's had her on stage with him @ Paisley Park in 1989 during the US Lovesexy tour with Wendy & Lisa, he's had Susannah on stage with W & L during the ONA period to do A Love Bizarre and another song. Dedicated In This Bed I Scream to her Lisa & W on Emanicipation. Had her as one of the women on a possible all woman band in 1998 via the One video hidden messages

.

.

* According to Denise Matthews she got rid of all of that stuff when she had her conversion. I cannot see her holding onto that stuff..

I got rid of all the lingerie and cleaned house,” she explained.

http://www.mustardseedstories.com/demons-wanted-me-the-testimony-of-denise-matthews-formerly-known-as-vanity/

The experience led to her religious conversion, as she said that she’d received a vision from Jesus as she lay dying. She said that God wanted her to metaphorically “kill” Vanity and she did, reportedly discarding every interview or recording of herself as the sexed-up pop star, distancing herself from the entertainment world, and going by her given name only: Denise Matthews.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/the-sexy-holy-saga-of-vanity-princes-muse-who-found-god

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Denise did not sell anything for profits and she could have. She did not get rid of certain keepsakes per info shared here.
Denise has nothing to do with how others handle their business. She clearly was not pimping Prince or felt letters etc between them needed to be given to the highest bidder. Please do not piss on her grave. It was not who she was.
She loved Prince and honored him til the day she died.
If any of his friends and associates decide to sell their stuff that is up to them and there is no need to validate or orove or disprove. People are known by their actions not their words.
Watch and learn. Listen and be deceived.
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Vashtix said:

Denise did not sell anything for profits and she could have. She did not get rid of certain keepsakes per info shared here. Denise has nothing to do with how others handle their business. She clearly was not pimping Prince or felt letters etc between them needed to be given to the highest bidder. Please do not piss on her grave. It was not who she was. She loved Prince and honored him til the day she died. If any of his friends and associates decide to sell their stuff that is up to them and there is no need to validate or orove or disprove. People are known by their actions not their words. Watch and learn. Listen and be deceived.

what are you talking about?

Denise Matthews said, and I posted the quote from her here and in another thread

that she got rid of all the lingere and things connected to her Vanity persona.
Now if someone producing Prince pants from 1982 out of Denise Matthews closet, then that is another story. But as far as what SHE said years after I got rid of all the lingerie and cleaned house,” she explained.
Now anything communicated with Prince via letters later on are a different subject.


But I don't see anyone pissing on Vanity's grave or life. That is a bit too out there.

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OldFriends4Sale said:

Vashtix said:

Denise did not sell anything for profits and she could have. She did not get rid of certain keepsakes per info shared here. Denise has nothing to do with how others handle their business. She clearly was not pimping Prince or felt letters etc between them needed to be given to the highest bidder. Please do not piss on her grave. It was not who she was. She loved Prince and honored him til the day she died. If any of his friends and associates decide to sell their stuff that is up to them and there is no need to validate or orove or disprove. People are known by their actions not their words. Watch and learn. Listen and be deceived.

what are you talking about?

Denise Matthews said, and I posted the quote from her here and in another thread

that she got rid of all the lingere and things connected to her Vanity persona.
Now if someone producing Prince pants from 1982 out of Denise Matthews closet, then that is another story. But as far as what SHE said years after I got rid of all the lingerie and cleaned house,” she explained.
Now anything communicated with Prince via letters later on are a different subject.


But I don't see anyone pissing on Vanity's grave or life. That is a bit too out there.

How many times and ways can this informaiton be convayed to you. Vanity kept personal momentoes from her time with Prince. I do not see Susannah auctioning off the PJs she wore on the front of the Family Album. She is selling personal items he gave to her and notes. We are telling you Vanity had these types of items as well but they were never sold. No one said anything about Vanity keeping Vanity Six ligerie.

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Reply #28 posted 09/24/17 4:19pm

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laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

what are you talking about?

Denise Matthews said, and I posted the quote from her here and in another thread

that she got rid of all the lingere and things connected to her Vanity persona.
Now if someone producing Prince pants from 1982 out of Denise Matthews closet, then that is another story. But as far as what SHE said years after I got rid of all the lingerie and cleaned house,” she explained.
Now anything communicated with Prince via letters later on are a different subject.


But I don't see anyone pissing on Vanity's grave or life. That is a bit too out there.

How many times and ways can this informaiton be convayed to you. Vanity kept personal momentoes from her time with Prince. I do not see Susannah auctioning off the PJs she wore on the front of the Family Album. She is selling personal items he gave to her and notes. We are telling you Vanity had these types of items as well but they were never sold. No one said anything about Vanity keeping Vanity Six ligerie.

My reply was to Vashtix

She's talking about people pissing on Denise Matthews grave, so need to know what she is talking about

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And he stopped communicating with her as their talks were over this defunkt group he wanted to die. She is only telling us her side of those coversations. I am sure he had some reason to stop speaking to her. End of the line I do not believe a word this women has to say. I hope she sells everything and disappears into the night but I know she will be back with more stuff and a book.

She appears to have no job and if this is the case and she does come back with another "I am Prince's old girlfriend from 30 years ago and I need money" schemes do not be surprised.

OldFriends4Sale said:

1. It is clear, that he was communicating with her. She wasn't in his camp anymore.

Susannah: My last contact with him was about the name of our band. He stopped talking to me. Completely. We’ve always talked throughout the years. But when it came to that it was the reason he’ll never talk to me again?

Susannah: We all tried to tell them that. The last time we spoke he heard my kids in the background, and my youngest one was little at the time, he said, “Is this a bad time?” I said, “No. I’m about to put my kids to sleep.” He had never actually heard that part of my world. It wasn’t a bad time. I said, “They are my concern but you have my time right now. “ He didn’t like that. He told Paul I was belligerent and that was enough for him. That’s 25 years of a friendship of sorts. I wouldn’t call it a real friendship. Prince said, “I’m done. I’m not going to speak to her. I’m only going to speak with you Paul,” And he had never spoken to Paul in any of the years. Ever.

2. Yes, and Wendy said he did contact her to get Susannah's number

3. I'm not talking about Vanity and Prince not communicating. I know they did. I'm talking about ridding herself of the Vanity personna and those things involved with that time period.

Life's a bitch and then you die

that's why we get high

Cause you never know when you're gonna go

4. She and Eric Leeds and others were approached about auctioning some things off. That her kids won't know or have a special significance to things and if she did die tomorrow may just go in the trash... that is life, and reasonable

As people move through various stages of grief via death parting with things that may be intimately valuable is a common response. Releasing it, releasing energy, closing chapters etc

laurarichardson said:

1) One short note from 20 years ago in no proof of constant communication. In fact the only information we have concerning Susannah and Prince comes from the Melvoin sisters.

2) Some of the things you are discussing are once again from 20 to 30 years ago. The only communication that can be veriefied is the FX Deluxe and obviosily that did not end on a positive note

3) According to Vanity’s brother in law she has a storage been full of items including letters going up and until 2012. Some of this in snippets has been shared by her brother-law on this forum.

So she did not get rid of everything and she never auctioned anything off despite her medical bills.

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