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Thread started 09/22/17 7:16pm

Strawberrylova123

Susannah Melvoin interview with RR auction .

Prince items from Susanna...uction ...

I love Susannah's voice tone

Reply #1 posted 09/22/17 8:02pm

Strawberrylova123

Nice purple stories 😎😎
Reply #2 posted 09/22/17 8:08pm

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

nice.
So that note he sent her about the ballet was from 1996?

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #3 posted 09/22/17 8:11pm

Strawberrylova123

OldFriends4Sale said:

 


nice.  
So that note he sent her about the ballet was from 1996?


 


 


I think from the Gold experience era?? 1995
Reply #4 posted 09/23/17 5:16am

anangellooksdown

Listened to this last night. A few insights that were enjoyable.
~Paisley Park is in your heart~
Reply #5 posted 09/23/17 7:42am

Strawberrylova123

anangellooksdown said:

Listened to this last night. A few insights that were enjoyable.

Yeah it's nice to hear Susannah speak, she barely does interviews
Reply #6 posted 09/23/17 9:31am

purplerabbithole

smart classy woman. I don't know all her motivations or feelings where P is concerned but she seems very sensible here. She understands that if you are going to sell stuff related to him, you need to do so with some respect for the man who owned the stuff in the first place. I loved the pireoutte (sic) story. I do think she has love in her heart for him even if it is more complicated than she probably reveals here.

I wasn't thrilled about these auctioned things at first. But she made a valid point about legacy. She knows that if she just wills it to her kids, they won't get the significance as much as a collector would. they wouldn't care for the items with the same delicacy and honor (and really why burden them with that responsibility) . She auctioned things with only positivity attached to them and waited a year and a half after his death to start the process of letting items go. And now we have loving stories to accompany it. She might need a little money but people have more than one motivation for their actions and I am okay with that.

[Edited 9/23/17 9:33am]

Reply #7 posted 09/23/17 9:39am

Strawberrylova123

purplerabbithole said:

smart classy woman.  I don't know all her motivations or feelings where P is concerned but she seems very sensible here. She understands that if you are going to sell stuff related to him, you need to do so with some respect for the man who owned the stuff in the first place.  I loved the pireoutte (sic) story. I do think she has love in her heart for him even if it is more complicated than she probably reveals here.


 


I wasn't thrilled about these auctioned things at first. But she made a valid point about legacy. She knows that if she just wills it to her kids, they won't get the significance as much as a collector would. they wouldn't care for the items with the same delicacy and honor (and really why burden them with that responsibility) .   She  auctioned things with only positivity attached to them and waited a year and a half after his death to start the process of letting items go.  And now we have loving stories to accompany it.  She might need a little money but people have more than one motivation for their actions and I am okay with that.


 


 


 


 

[Edited 9/23/17 9:33am]


Yep! She is part of music history now
Reply #8 posted 09/23/17 9:50am

purplerabbithole

Don't get me wrong. she is probably trying to claim her little piece of the purple pie but so far, she is doing it in a positive way and you can tell by the way she justifies her actions that she has thought hard about it with consideration for his legacy etc. If she writes a book, I hope she has the kind of maturity to make it clear why she loved this man in the first place (despite his flaws and some of her hurt feelings) while being honest about any mixed feelings she might have about him, herself and her place in Prince world.

Strawberrylova123 said:

purplerabbithole said:

smart classy woman. I don't know all her motivations or feelings where P is concerned but she seems very sensible here. She understands that if you are going to sell stuff related to him, you need to do so with some respect for the man who owned the stuff in the first place. I loved the pireoutte (sic) story. I do think she has love in her heart for him even if it is more complicated than she probably reveals here.

I wasn't thrilled about these auctioned things at first. But she made a valid point about legacy. She knows that if she just wills it to her kids, they won't get the significance as much as a collector would. they wouldn't care for the items with the same delicacy and honor (and really why burden them with that responsibility) . She auctioned things with only positivity attached to them and waited a year and a half after his death to start the process of letting items go. And now we have loving stories to accompany it. She might need a little money but people have more than one motivation for their actions and I am okay with that.

[Edited 9/23/17 9:33am]

Yep! She is part of music history now

[Edited 9/23/17 9:51am]

Reply #9 posted 09/23/17 10:23am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

purplerabbithole said:

smart classy woman. I don't know all her motivations or feelings where P is concerned but she seems very sensible here. She understands that if you are going to sell stuff related to him, you need to do so with some respect for the man who owned the stuff in the first place. I loved the pireoutte (sic) story. I do think she has love in her heart for him even if it is more complicated than she probably reveals here.

I wasn't thrilled about these auctioned things at first. But she made a valid point about legacy. She knows that if she just wills it to her kids, they won't get the significance as much as a collector would. they wouldn't care for the items with the same delicacy and honor (and really why burden them with that responsibility) . She auctioned things with only positivity attached to them and waited a year and a half after his death to start the process of letting items go. And now we have loving stories to accompany it. She might need a little money but people have more than one motivation for their actions and I am okay with that.

[Edited 9/23/17 9:33am]

I appreciate this post purplerabbithole

.

It just lined up with some things I've been reviewing about life in general and dealing with some things with my parents, and what happens 'tomorrow'. That dreaded day when they are no longer here. My parents had the 'talk' with me last year. Yucky.

.
Denise Matthews & Prince's passing is just another strong reminder that we don't have tomorrow or another 30yrs promised. (especially with threats of nuclear wars all around us now) but, if people don't 'tell their stories' now, then when? when it is too late? That is my one pain with Prince, in that his 'I don't look back' concept might have held him off from doing a memoir earlier. I longed for something like that from Prince. 'Purple academians' will cherish these stories. So much background to go along with the music.

Eric Leeds is a part of this auction as well.

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Some people in other places said she should have given them to Paisley Park, but I don't know if Paisley Park right now, is the right place for these things. And your point about her children not knowing the 'musical historica' significance is on point.

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #10 posted 09/23/17 5:58pm

endiadj

Another person who allegedly didn't have time for him while he was alive, all of a sudden have all the time in the world after he's dead to make a buck off of him. sad
Reply #11 posted 09/23/17 6:20pm

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

endiadj said:

Another person who allegedly didn't have time for him while he was alive, all of a sudden have all the time in the world after he's dead to make a buck off of him. sad

what does that mean?

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #12 posted 09/23/17 6:32pm

purplerabbithole

Supposedly they talked three months before he died. If I recall correctly, according to Wendy, he asked how she was doing (divorce related, I believe). Unless P invited her to Paisley and was completely honest about how much he was struggling, how could she know how much help he needed or that he would die within the week? Plus, Prince didn't like being weak in front of people--its possible she could have traveled all the way up to PP and he still would have avoided seeing her or would have gave her the runaround and kept it brief..

Cut people not in his immediate circle a bit of a break. I do think they all may have advertedly or inadvertedly exploited his death a bit since he died, but that's doesn't mean we should assume that they knew he was on death's door and basically told him to go fuck himself.

endiadj said:

Another person who allegedly didn't have time for him while he was alive, all of a sudden have all the time in the world after he's dead to make a buck off of him. sad

Reply #13 posted 09/23/17 8:02pm

laurarichardson

You are really missing the point. She was not involved in his life for 30 years this women saved some tatted leg warmers like some vulture waiting for him to die when she could have thrown it away or given some it back to him the point is she did not try and sell it when he was alive for a reason.

She talk all the bull she wants but at the end of the day she is doing this stuff to make a buck because her deadbeat husband will not support her and she will not get a job.

Think about Vanity and her 100,000.00 in medical bills and how she sold nothing and said very little.


purplerabbithole said:

Supposedly they talked three months before he died. If I recall correctly, according to Wendy, he asked how she was doing (divorce related, I believe). Unless P invited her to Paisley and was completely honest about how much he was struggling, how could she know how much help he needed or that he would die within the week?  Plus, Prince didn't like being weak in front of people--its possible she could have traveled all the way up to PP and he still would have avoided seeing her or would have gave her the runaround and kept it brief..


Cut people not in his immediate circle a bit of a break. I do think they all may have advertedly or inadvertedly exploited his death a bit since he died, but that's doesn't mean we should assume that they knew he was on death's door and basically told him to go fuck himself.


 


 


 



endiadj said:


Another person who allegedly didn't have time for him while he was alive, all of a sudden have all the time in the world after he's dead to make a buck off of him. sad

 

Reply #14 posted 09/23/17 8:20pm

purplerabbithole

a.) I can live with her getting money off of Prince as long as she feels obligated to say something nice or find nice things to sell. She could sell things in a tacky tasteless way like Mayte. Remember her describing her wedding dress as tacky on tv when he was still alive.


b.) her justifications at least prove that she is thinking about not wanting to come off exploitative. And she has a valid point about how keeping that stuff to herself would likely mean her kids wouldn't know how to honor the possessions. these justifications prove that she at least had to feel alright with it in her own mind before proceeding. She has his leg warmers because he gave them to her when it was super cold outside. She explained that they were shredded from his heels. The stories about their love of ballet, how much they loved a second-hand store wand in glitter in it, his proposal (the handwriting is the florist's) , their shared interest in painting--those are lovely things to say. She doesn't even brag about herself except to imply that he liked her ballet dancing (which is why he sent her that letter in 1996 asking her to listen to his ballet) and that she was teaching him how to dance ballet..(come on, Prince not being a nature ballet dancer isn't exactly an insult.)

As for not selling it earlier, collectors wouldn't have cared earlier. They wouldn't have taken that stuff as seriously as she had. they might have been careless with it. Those willing to shell out money for that stuff now will take care of it better. Do you honestly think she decided in a calculated way to keep that stuff related to him for all those years just in case he happens to die a sad death so she can sell it more than 1 and a half years after his death.

laurarichardson said:

You are really missing the point. She was not involved in his life for 30 years this women saved some tatted leg warmers like some vulture waiting for him to die when she could have thrown it away or given some it back to him the point is she did not try and sell it when he was alive for a reason. She talk all the bull she wants but at the end of the day she is doing this stuff to make a buck because her deadbeat husband will not support her and she will not get a job. Think about Vanity and her 100,000.00 in medical bills and how she sold nothing and said very little. purplerabbithole said:

Supposedly they talked three months before he died. If I recall correctly, according to Wendy, he asked how she was doing (divorce related, I believe). Unless P invited her to Paisley and was completely honest about how much he was struggling, how could she know how much help he needed or that he would die within the week? Plus, Prince didn't like being weak in front of people--its possible she could have traveled all the way up to PP and he still would have avoided seeing her or would have gave her the runaround and kept it brief..

Cut people not in his immediate circle a bit of a break. I do think they all may have advertedly or inadvertedly exploited his death a bit since he died, but that's doesn't mean we should assume that they knew he was on death's door and basically told him to go fuck himself.

Reply #15 posted 09/23/17 8:23pm

Strawberrylova123

endiadj said:

Another person who allegedly didn't have time for him while he was alive, all of a sudden have all the time in the world after he's dead to make a buck off of him. sad

How do u know this
Reply #16 posted 09/23/17 8:33pm

laurarichardson

She is just trying to make herself look good. Who the hell keeps some old shredded leg warmers from 30 years ago? Or proposal notes from your ex-boyfriend when you long since remarried? Must have made for an interesting conversation with her ex. People were auctioning off Prince's things before he passed away and he wound buy the stuff or send a cease and desist letter. Remember he was the one that said people stole stuff all the time.

As far as ballet is concerned we have already heard that he took Balket lessons with some art group when he was a teen so Susannah did not have to teach him ballet. Just more B.S from this lazy ass women. It is Prince's fault for having such bad taste.

purplerabbithole said:

a.) I can live with her getting money off of Prince as long as she feels obligated to say something nice or find nice things to sell. She could sell things in a tacky tasteless way like Mayte. Remember her describing her wedding dress as tacky on tv when he was still alive.



b.) her justifications at least prove that she is thinking about not wanting to come off exploitative.  And she has a valid point about how keeping that stuff to herself would likely mean her kids wouldn't know how to honor the possessions.   these justifications prove that she at least had to feel alright with it in her own mind before proceeding.  She has his leg warmers because he gave them to her when it was super cold outside.  She explained that they were shredded from his heels. The stories about their love of ballet, how much they loved a second-hand store wand in glitter in it, his proposal (the handwriting is the florist's) ,  their shared interest in painting--those are lovely things to say.  She doesn't even brag about herself except to imply that he liked her ballet dancing (which is why he sent her that letter in 1996 asking her to listen to his ballet) and that she was  teaching him how to dance ballet..(come on, Prince not being a nature ballet dancer isn't exactly an insult.)


 


As for not selling it earlier, collectors wouldn't have cared earlier. They wouldn't have taken that stuff as seriously as she had. they might have been careless with it.  Those willing to shell out money for that stuff now will take care of it better.  Do you honestly think she decided in a calculated way to keep that stuff related to him for all those years just in case he happens to die a sad death so she can sell it more than 1  and a half years  after his death.


 


 



laurarichardson said:


You are really missing the point. She was not involved in his life for 30 years this women saved some tatted leg warmers like some vulture waiting for him to die when she could have thrown it away or given some it back to him the point is she did not try and sell it when he was alive for a reason. She talk all the bull she wants but at the end of the day she is doing this stuff to make a buck because her deadbeat husband will not support her and she will not get a job. Think about Vanity and her 100,000.00 in medical bills and how she sold nothing and said very little. purplerabbithole said:

Supposedly they talked three months before he died. If I recall correctly, according to Wendy, he asked how she was doing (divorce related, I believe). Unless P invited her to Paisley and was completely honest about how much he was struggling, how could she know how much help he needed or that he would die within the week?  Plus, Prince didn't like being weak in front of people--its possible she could have traveled all the way up to PP and he still would have avoided seeing her or would have gave her the runaround and kept it brief..


Cut people not in his immediate circle a bit of a break. I do think they all may have advertedly or inadvertedly exploited his death a bit since he died, but that's doesn't mean we should assume that they knew he was on death's door and basically told him to go fuck himself.


 


 


 


 




 

Reply #17 posted 09/23/17 8:55pm

purplerabbithole

She said she taught him a specific ballet move not all ballet. She might be lazy but does'nt mean she is lying here. She gave the specific street they were walking. Keeping some of his stuff for fond memories of her time dating a rock star.. why is that such a stretch when Wendy was still associated with Prince off and on for years. He was a part of their lives and they had some nice memories. I am sure future husbands would understand--he was Prince for fuck's sake. I am absolutely certain Ava Gardner kept stuff of Sinatra's and visa versa even after they hooked up with other folks.

laurarichardson said:

She is just trying to make herself look good. Who the hell keeps some old shredded leg warmers from 30 years ago? Or proposal notes from your ex-boyfriend when you long since remarried? Must have made for an interesting conversation with her ex. People were auctioning off Prince's things before he passed away and he wound buy the stuff or send a cease and desist letter. Remember he was the one that said people stole stuff all the time. As far as ballet is concerned we have already heard that he took Balket lessons with some art group when he was a teen so Susannah did not have to teach him ballet. Just more B.S from this lazy ass women. It is Prince's fault for having such bad taste. purplerabbithole said:

a.) I can live with her getting money off of Prince as long as she feels obligated to say something nice or find nice things to sell. She could sell things in a tacky tasteless way like Mayte. Remember her describing her wedding dress as tacky on tv when he was still alive.


b.) her justifications at least prove that she is thinking about not wanting to come off exploitative. And she has a valid point about how keeping that stuff to herself would likely mean her kids wouldn't know how to honor the possessions. these justifications prove that she at least had to feel alright with it in her own mind before proceeding. She has his leg warmers because he gave them to her when it was super cold outside. She explained that they were shredded from his heels. The stories about their love of ballet, how much they loved a second-hand store wand in glitter in it, his proposal (the handwriting is the florist's) , their shared interest in painting--those are lovely things to say. She doesn't even brag about herself except to imply that he liked her ballet dancing (which is why he sent her that letter in 1996 asking her to listen to his ballet) and that she was teaching him how to dance ballet..(come on, Prince not being a nature ballet dancer isn't exactly an insult.)

As for not selling it earlier, collectors wouldn't have cared earlier. They wouldn't have taken that stuff as seriously as she had. they might have been careless with it. Those willing to shell out money for that stuff now will take care of it better. Do you honestly think she decided in a calculated way to keep that stuff related to him for all those years just in case he happens to die a sad death so she can sell it more than 1 and a half years after his death.

Reply #18 posted 09/23/17 9:03pm

laurarichardson

Wendy is a working musician they worked together. I would not be surprised if he said hey once in a while but Guy's usually move on and any women clinging to this while married is either pathetic or is waiting to cash in. It is my opinion and I think she knows how she looks or she would not be trying to explain herself. I am glad you agree she is lazy and it will be interesting to see what she does when the money runs out from this sale.



said:

She said she taught him a specific ballet move not all ballet.  She might be lazy but does'nt mean she is lying here.  She gave the specific street they were walking.  Keeping some of his stuff for fond memories of her time dating a rock star.. why is that such a stretch when Wendy was still associated with Prince off and on for years.   He was a part of their lives and they had some nice memories. I am sure future husbands would understand--he was Prince for fuck's sake. I am absolutely certain Ava Gardner kept stuff of Sinatra's and visa versa even after they hooked up with other folks.


 


 


 


 



laurarichardson said:


She is just trying to make herself look good. Who the hell keeps some old shredded leg warmers from 30 years ago? Or proposal notes from your ex-boyfriend when you long since remarried? Must have made for an interesting conversation with her ex. People were auctioning off Prince's things before he passed away and he wound buy the stuff or send a cease and desist letter. Remember he was the one that said people stole stuff all the time. As far as ballet is concerned we have already heard that he took Balket lessons with some art group when he was a teen so Susannah did not have to teach him ballet. Just more B.S from this lazy ass women. It is Prince's fault for having such bad taste. purplerabbithole said:

a.) I can live with her getting money off of Prince as long as she feels obligated to say something nice or find nice things to sell. She could sell things in a tacky tasteless way like Mayte. Remember her describing her wedding dress as tacky on tv when he was still alive.



b.) her justifications at least prove that she is thinking about not wanting to come off exploitative.  And she has a valid point about how keeping that stuff to herself would likely mean her kids wouldn't know how to honor the possessions.   these justifications prove that she at least had to feel alright with it in her own mind before proceeding.  She has his leg warmers because he gave them to her when it was super cold outside.  She explained that they were shredded from his heels. The stories about their love of ballet, how much they loved a second-hand store wand in glitter in it, his proposal (the handwriting is the florist's) ,  their shared interest in painting--those are lovely things to say.  She doesn't even brag about herself except to imply that he liked her ballet dancing (which is why he sent her that letter in 1996 asking her to listen to his ballet) and that she was  teaching him how to dance ballet..(come on, Prince not being a nature ballet dancer isn't exactly an insult.)


 


As for not selling it earlier, collectors wouldn't have cared earlier. They wouldn't have taken that stuff as seriously as she had. they might have been careless with it.  Those willing to shell out money for that stuff now will take care of it better.  Do you honestly think she decided in a calculated way to keep that stuff related to him for all those years just in case he happens to die a sad death so she can sell it more than 1  and a half years  after his death.


 


 


 




 

Reply #19 posted 09/23/17 11:26pm

gwiliandre

laurarichardson said:

Wendy is a working musician they worked together. I would not be surprised if he said hey once in a while but Guy's usually move on and any women clinging to this while married is either pathetic or is waiting to cash in. It is my opinion and I think she knows how she looks or she would not be trying to explain herself. I am glad you agree she is lazy and it will be interesting to see what she does when the money runs out from this sale. said:

She said she taught him a specific ballet move not all ballet. She might be lazy but does'nt mean she is lying here. She gave the specific street they were walking. Keeping some of his stuff for fond memories of her time dating a rock star.. why is that such a stretch when Wendy was still associated with Prince off and on for years. He was a part of their lives and they had some nice memories. I am sure future husbands would understand--he was Prince for fuck's sake. I am absolutely certain Ava Gardner kept stuff of Sinatra's and visa versa even after they hooked up with other folks.

Dearest Laura. You are consistent in your vile filled rants. Rage much? Bottome line; It's none of your business. Don't worry your mind regarding what she does or does not do with monies resulting from her consignments.

Prince enjoyed extraordinary relationships, both professional and personal, with numerous women during his Blessed Life. Nobody appointed you judge nor jury of same. Whilst you claim to be so offended and flumuxoned by the Auction, you seem to spend an inordinate amount of time focusing your energy on something which is quite frankly NONE of your business. Perhaps your energy would be better served elsewhere. Volunteer. Find a hobby. Don't make it your life work to diminish disparage and verbally destroy the friends and loves of Dear Beautiful Prince. Respect and stay in your own line, Peace.

Reply #20 posted 09/24/17 7:26am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

yeah she took ballet, so I don't understand peoples issue with her teaching a move. It was just one turn/twirl move.

I don't know how she is lazy, from the time the Family band reconnected she's been working and touring.

and before that she's sung/written with/for Madonna Eric Clapton Seal Roger Waters Mike Oldfield Stevie Wonder, Erykah Badu, D'Angelo, Bilal, Oliver Leiber, Chaka Khan...

and others including Doyle Bramhall II who she ended up marrying. Who she was married to for about 10yrs with 2 kids. And of course with W&L CoEd(Sheila E) etc

I don't see how that constitutes 'lazy' . Maybe an issue with her being a woman, because no one is ripping Eric Leeds.

And it was Prince who wrote the note to her in 1995 about the Glam Slam 'ballet'

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the consignor affirms that Prince likewise wrote this note to Susannah to get her opinion on his ballet because of their shared love of dance. The couple's ballet connection dates to Susannah teaching Prince his first pirouette as they were walking down Melrose Avenue while recording the soundtrack to Purple Rain.

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #21 posted 09/24/17 8:11am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

* Not involved in his life for 30yrs? They continued to be friends the whole of Prince's life.

1. the note about the ballet 0+> wrote to Susannah in 1995 and then asked her to write him back. It is clear they continued to communicate

2. They were talking on the phone a lot during the time of FDeluxe. Then Prince got upset with her some time in the last few years on the phone, and then reconnected with her in the year before he died

3. He's had her on stage with him @ Paisley Park in 1989 during the US Lovesexy tour with Wendy & Lisa, he's had Susannah on stage with W & L during the ONA period to do A Love Bizarre and another song. Dedicated In This Bed I Scream to her Lisa & W on Emanicipation. Had her as one of the women on a possible all woman band in 1998 via the One video hidden messages

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* According to Denise Matthews she got rid of all of that stuff when she had her conversion. I cannot see her holding onto that stuff..

I got rid of all the lingerie and cleaned house,” she explained.

http://www.mustardseedstories.com/demons-wanted-me-the-testimony-of-denise-matthews-formerly-known-as-vanity/

The experience led to her religious conversion, as she said that she’d received a vision from Jesus as she lay dying. She said that God wanted her to metaphorically “kill” Vanity and she did, reportedly discarding every interview or recording of herself as the sexed-up pop star, distancing herself from the entertainment world, and going by her given name only: Denise Matthews.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/the-sexy-holy-saga-of-vanity-princes-muse-who-found-god

laurarichardson said:

You are really missing the point. She was not involved in his life for 30 years this women saved some tatted leg warmers like some vulture waiting for him to die when she could have thrown it away or given some it back to him the point is she did not try and sell it when he was alive for a reason. She talk all the bull she wants but at the end of the day she is doing this stuff to make a buck because her deadbeat husband will not support her and she will not get a job. Think about Vanity and her 100,000.00 in medical bills and how she sold nothing and said very little. purplerabbithole said:

Supposedly they talked three months before he died. If I recall correctly, according to Wendy, he asked how she was doing (divorce related, I believe). Unless P invited her to Paisley and was completely honest about how much he was struggling, how could she know how much help he needed or that he would die within the week? Plus, Prince didn't like being weak in front of people--its possible she could have traveled all the way up to PP and he still would have avoided seeing her or would have gave her the runaround and kept it brief..

Cut people not in his immediate circle a bit of a break. I do think they all may have advertedly or inadvertedly exploited his death a bit since he died, but that's doesn't mean we should assume that they knew he was on death's door and basically told him to go fuck himself.

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #22 posted 09/24/17 12:03pm

pinkcashmere23

Enjoyed the interview.Thanks!

Reply #23 posted 09/24/17 2:17pm

laurarichardson

1) One short note from 20 years ago in no proof of constant communication. In fact the only information we have concerning Susannah and Prince comes from the Melvoin sisters.

2) Some of the things you are discussing are once again from 20 to 30 years ago. The only communication that can be veriefied is the FX Deluxe and obviosily that did not end on a positive note

3) According to Vanity’s brother in law she has a storage been full of items including letters going up and until 2012. Some of this in snippets has been shared by her brother-law on this forum.

So she did not get rid of everything and she never auctioned anything off despite her medical bills.

OldFriends4Sale said:

* Not involved in his life for 30yrs? They continued to be friends the whole of Prince's life.

1. the note about the ballet 0+> wrote to Susannah in 1995 and then asked her to write him back. It is clear they continued to communicate

2. They were talking on the phone a lot during the time of FDeluxe. Then Prince got upset with her some time in the last few years on the phone, and then reconnected with her in the year before he died

3. He's had her on stage with him @ Paisley Park in 1989 during the US Lovesexy tour with Wendy & Lisa, he's had Susannah on stage with W & L during the ONA period to do A Love Bizarre and another song. Dedicated In This Bed I Scream to her Lisa & W on Emanicipation. Had her as one of the women on a possible all woman band in 1998 via the One video hidden messages

.

.

* According to Denise Matthews she got rid of all of that stuff when she had her conversion. I cannot see her holding onto that stuff..

I got rid of all the lingerie and cleaned house,” she explained.

http://www.mustardseedstories.com/demons-wanted-me-the-testimony-of-denise-matthews-formerly-known-as-vanity/

The experience led to her religious conversion, as she said that she’d received a vision from Jesus as she lay dying. She said that God wanted her to metaphorically “kill” Vanity and she did, reportedly discarding every interview or recording of herself as the sexed-up pop star, distancing herself from the entertainment world, and going by her given name only: Denise Matthews.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/the-sexy-holy-saga-of-vanity-princes-muse-who-found-god

laurarichardson said:

You are really missing the point. She was not involved in his life for 30 years this women saved some tatted leg warmers like some vulture waiting for him to die when she could have thrown it away or given some it back to him the point is she did not try and sell it when he was alive for a reason. She talk all the bull she wants but at the end of the day she is doing this stuff to make a buck because her deadbeat husband will not support her and she will not get a job. Think about Vanity and her 100,000.00 in medical bills and how she sold nothing and said very little. purplerabbithole said:

Reply #24 posted 09/24/17 3:53pm

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

1. It is clear, that he was communicating with her. She wasn't in his camp anymore.

Susannah: My last contact with him was about the name of our band. He stopped talking to me. Completely. We’ve always talked throughout the years. But when it came to that it was the reason he’ll never talk to me again?

Susannah: We all tried to tell them that. The last time we spoke he heard my kids in the background, and my youngest one was little at the time, he said, “Is this a bad time?” I said, “No. I’m about to put my kids to sleep.” He had never actually heard that part of my world. It wasn’t a bad time. I said, “They are my concern but you have my time right now. “ He didn’t like that. He told Paul I was belligerent and that was enough for him. That’s 25 years of a friendship of sorts. I wouldn’t call it a real friendship. Prince said, “I’m done. I’m not going to speak to her. I’m only going to speak with you Paul,” And he had never spoken to Paul in any of the years. Ever.

2. Yes, and Wendy said he did contact her to get Susannah's number

3. I'm not talking about Vanity and Prince not communicating. I know they did. I'm talking about ridding herself of the Vanity personna and those things involved with that time period.

Life's a bitch and then you die

that's why we get high

Cause you never know when you're gonna go

4. She and Eric Leeds and others were approached about auctioning some things off. That her kids won't know or have a special significance to things and if she did die tomorrow may just go in the trash... that is life, and reasonable

As people move through various stages of grief via death parting with things that may be intimately valuable is a common response. Releasing it, releasing energy, closing chapters etc

laurarichardson said:

1) One short note from 20 years ago in no proof of constant communication. In fact the only information we have concerning Susannah and Prince comes from the Melvoin sisters.

2) Some of the things you are discussing are once again from 20 to 30 years ago. The only communication that can be veriefied is the FX Deluxe and obviosily that did not end on a positive note

3) According to Vanity’s brother in law she has a storage been full of items including letters going up and until 2012. Some of this in snippets has been shared by her brother-law on this forum.

So she did not get rid of everything and she never auctioned anything off despite her medical bills.

OldFriends4Sale said:

* Not involved in his life for 30yrs? They continued to be friends the whole of Prince's life.

1. the note about the ballet 0+> wrote to Susannah in 1995 and then asked her to write him back. It is clear they continued to communicate

2. They were talking on the phone a lot during the time of FDeluxe. Then Prince got upset with her some time in the last few years on the phone, and then reconnected with her in the year before he died

3. He's had her on stage with him @ Paisley Park in 1989 during the US Lovesexy tour with Wendy & Lisa, he's had Susannah on stage with W & L during the ONA period to do A Love Bizarre and another song. Dedicated In This Bed I Scream to her Lisa & W on Emanicipation. Had her as one of the women on a possible all woman band in 1998 via the One video hidden messages

.

.

* According to Denise Matthews she got rid of all of that stuff when she had her conversion. I cannot see her holding onto that stuff..

I got rid of all the lingerie and cleaned house,” she explained.

http://www.mustardseedstories.com/demons-wanted-me-the-testimony-of-denise-matthews-formerly-known-as-vanity/

The experience led to her religious conversion, as she said that she’d received a vision from Jesus as she lay dying. She said that God wanted her to metaphorically “kill” Vanity and she did, reportedly discarding every interview or recording of herself as the sexed-up pop star, distancing herself from the entertainment world, and going by her given name only: Denise Matthews.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/the-sexy-holy-saga-of-vanity-princes-muse-who-found-god

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #25 posted 09/24/17 4:05pm

Vashtix

Denise did not sell anything for profits and she could have. She did not get rid of certain keepsakes per info shared here.
Denise has nothing to do with how others handle their business. She clearly was not pimping Prince or felt letters etc between them needed to be given to the highest bidder. Please do not piss on her grave. It was not who she was.
She loved Prince and honored him til the day she died.
If any of his friends and associates decide to sell their stuff that is up to them and there is no need to validate or orove or disprove. People are known by their actions not their words.
Watch and learn. Listen and be deceived.
Reply #26 posted 09/24/17 4:09pm

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

Vashtix said:

Denise did not sell anything for profits and she could have. She did not get rid of certain keepsakes per info shared here. Denise has nothing to do with how others handle their business. She clearly was not pimping Prince or felt letters etc between them needed to be given to the highest bidder. Please do not piss on her grave. It was not who she was. She loved Prince and honored him til the day she died. If any of his friends and associates decide to sell their stuff that is up to them and there is no need to validate or orove or disprove. People are known by their actions not their words. Watch and learn. Listen and be deceived.

what are you talking about?

Denise Matthews said, and I posted the quote from her here and in another thread

that she got rid of all the lingere and things connected to her Vanity persona.
Now if someone producing Prince pants from 1982 out of Denise Matthews closet, then that is another story. But as far as what SHE said years after I got rid of all the lingerie and cleaned house,” she explained.
Now anything communicated with Prince via letters later on are a different subject.


But I don't see anyone pissing on Vanity's grave or life. That is a bit too out there.

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #27 posted 09/24/17 4:17pm

laurarichardson

OldFriends4Sale said:

Vashtix said:

Denise did not sell anything for profits and she could have. She did not get rid of certain keepsakes per info shared here. Denise has nothing to do with how others handle their business. She clearly was not pimping Prince or felt letters etc between them needed to be given to the highest bidder. Please do not piss on her grave. It was not who she was. She loved Prince and honored him til the day she died. If any of his friends and associates decide to sell their stuff that is up to them and there is no need to validate or orove or disprove. People are known by their actions not their words. Watch and learn. Listen and be deceived.

what are you talking about?

Denise Matthews said, and I posted the quote from her here and in another thread

that she got rid of all the lingere and things connected to her Vanity persona.
Now if someone producing Prince pants from 1982 out of Denise Matthews closet, then that is another story. But as far as what SHE said years after I got rid of all the lingerie and cleaned house,” she explained.
Now anything communicated with Prince via letters later on are a different subject.


But I don't see anyone pissing on Vanity's grave or life. That is a bit too out there.

How many times and ways can this informaiton be convayed to you. Vanity kept personal momentoes from her time with Prince. I do not see Susannah auctioning off the PJs she wore on the front of the Family Album. She is selling personal items he gave to her and notes. We are telling you Vanity had these types of items as well but they were never sold. No one said anything about Vanity keeping Vanity Six ligerie.

Reply #28 posted 09/24/17 4:19pm

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

what are you talking about?

Denise Matthews said, and I posted the quote from her here and in another thread

that she got rid of all the lingere and things connected to her Vanity persona.
Now if someone producing Prince pants from 1982 out of Denise Matthews closet, then that is another story. But as far as what SHE said years after I got rid of all the lingerie and cleaned house,” she explained.
Now anything communicated with Prince via letters later on are a different subject.


But I don't see anyone pissing on Vanity's grave or life. That is a bit too out there.

How many times and ways can this informaiton be convayed to you. Vanity kept personal momentoes from her time with Prince. I do not see Susannah auctioning off the PJs she wore on the front of the Family Album. She is selling personal items he gave to her and notes. We are telling you Vanity had these types of items as well but they were never sold. No one said anything about Vanity keeping Vanity Six ligerie.

My reply was to Vashtix

She's talking about people pissing on Denise Matthews grave, so need to know what she is talking about

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #29 posted 09/24/17 4:20pm

laurarichardson

And he stopped communicating with her as their talks were over this defunkt group he wanted to die. She is only telling us her side of those coversations. I am sure he had some reason to stop speaking to her. End of the line I do not believe a word this women has to say. I hope she sells everything and disappears into the night but I know she will be back with more stuff and a book.

She appears to have no job and if this is the case and she does come back with another "I am Prince's old girlfriend from 30 years ago and I need money" schemes do not be surprised.

OldFriends4Sale said:

1. It is clear, that he was communicating with her. She wasn't in his camp anymore.

Susannah: My last contact with him was about the name of our band. He stopped talking to me. Completely. We’ve always talked throughout the years. But when it came to that it was the reason he’ll never talk to me again?

Susannah: We all tried to tell them that. The last time we spoke he heard my kids in the background, and my youngest one was little at the time, he said, “Is this a bad time?” I said, “No. I’m about to put my kids to sleep.” He had never actually heard that part of my world. It wasn’t a bad time. I said, “They are my concern but you have my time right now. “ He didn’t like that. He told Paul I was belligerent and that was enough for him. That’s 25 years of a friendship of sorts. I wouldn’t call it a real friendship. Prince said, “I’m done. I’m not going to speak to her. I’m only going to speak with you Paul,” And he had never spoken to Paul in any of the years. Ever.

2. Yes, and Wendy said he did contact her to get Susannah's number

3. I'm not talking about Vanity and Prince not communicating. I know they did. I'm talking about ridding herself of the Vanity personna and those things involved with that time period.

Life's a bitch and then you die

that's why we get high

Cause you never know when you're gonna go

4. She and Eric Leeds and others were approached about auctioning some things off. That her kids won't know or have a special significance to things and if she did die tomorrow may just go in the trash... that is life, and reasonable

As people move through various stages of grief via death parting with things that may be intimately valuable is a common response. Releasing it, releasing energy, closing chapters etc

laurarichardson said:

1) One short note from 20 years ago in no proof of constant communication. In fact the only information we have concerning Susannah and Prince comes from the Melvoin sisters.

2) Some of the things you are discussing are once again from 20 to 30 years ago. The only communication that can be veriefied is the FX Deluxe and obviosily that did not end on a positive note

3) According to Vanity’s brother in law she has a storage been full of items including letters going up and until 2012. Some of this in snippets has been shared by her brother-law on this forum.

So she did not get rid of everything and she never auctioned anything off despite her medical bills.

Reply #30 posted 09/24/17 4:22pm

Vashtix

Denise did not sell anything for profits and she could have. She did not get rid of certain keepsakes per info shared here.
Denise has nothing to do with how others handle their business. She clearly was not pimping Prince or felt letters etc between them needed to be given to the highest bidder. Please do not piss on her grave. It was not who I think she was.

If any of his friends and associates decide to sell their stuff that is up to them and there is no need to validate or orove or disprove. People are known by their actions not their words.
Watch and learn. Listen and be deceived.
[Edited 9/24/17 17:19pm]
Reply #31 posted 09/24/17 4:23pm

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

And up to that point as I said they had an ongoing friendship. And then sometime later Prince and her talked.

You seem really emotionally invested in not liking her.

Is it about 'loyalty'?

laurarichardson said:

And he stopped communicating with her as their talks were over this defunkt group he wanted to die. She is only telling us her side of those coversations. I am sure he had some reason to stop speaking to her. End of the line I do not believe a word this women has to say. I hope she sells everything and disappears into the night but I know she will be back with more stuff and a book.

She appears to have no job and if this is the case and she does come back with another "I am Prince's old girlfriend from 30 years ago and I need money" schemes do not be surprised.

OldFriends4Sale said:

1. It is clear, that he was communicating with her. She wasn't in his camp anymore.

Susannah: My last contact with him was about the name of our band. He stopped talking to me. Completely. We’ve always talked throughout the years. But when it came to that it was the reason he’ll never talk to me again?

Susannah: We all tried to tell them that. The last time we spoke he heard my kids in the background, and my youngest one was little at the time, he said, “Is this a bad time?” I said, “No. I’m about to put my kids to sleep.” He had never actually heard that part of my world. It wasn’t a bad time. I said, “They are my concern but you have my time right now. “ He didn’t like that. He told Paul I was belligerent and that was enough for him. That’s 25 years of a friendship of sorts. I wouldn’t call it a real friendship. Prince said, “I’m done. I’m not going to speak to her. I’m only going to speak with you Paul,” And he had never spoken to Paul in any of the years. Ever.

2. Yes, and Wendy said he did contact her to get Susannah's number

3. I'm not talking about Vanity and Prince not communicating. I know they did. I'm talking about ridding herself of the Vanity personna and those things involved with that time period.

Life's a bitch and then you die

that's why we get high

Cause you never know when you're gonna go

4. She and Eric Leeds and others were approached about auctioning some things off. That her kids won't know or have a special significance to things and if she did die tomorrow may just go in the trash... that is life, and reasonable

As people move through various stages of grief via death parting with things that may be intimately valuable is a common response. Releasing it, releasing energy, closing chapters etc

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #32 posted 09/24/17 4:24pm

laurarichardson

Is she touring with FDeluxe right now? When was the last time they performed? Is Susan working in the entertainment industry or publically complaining about her ex-husband while selling t-shirts and mugs connected to her time with Prince.

The fact that she needs money is even mentioned in the interview with Jon Bream from the Star Tribune.

Eric plays at a nightclub in Minneapolis and actually has a few songs on Tidal. He has said that he is happy playing his gig at the nightclub meaning he has a job.

OldFriends4Sale said:

yeah she took ballet, so I don't understand peoples issue with her teaching a move. It was just one turn/twirl move.

I don't know how she is lazy, from the time the Family band reconnected she's been working and touring.

and before that she's sung/written with/for Madonna Eric Clapton Seal Roger Waters Mike Oldfield Stevie Wonder, Erykah Badu, D'Angelo, Bilal, Oliver Leiber, Chaka Khan...

and others including Doyle Bramhall II who she ended up marrying. Who she was married to for about 10yrs with 2 kids. And of course with W&L CoEd(Sheila E) etc

I don't see how that constitutes 'lazy' . Maybe an issue with her being a woman, because no one is ripping Eric Leeds.

And it was Prince who wrote the note to her in 1995 about the Glam Slam 'ballet'

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the consignor affirms that Prince likewise wrote this note to Susannah to get her opinion on his ballet because of their shared love of dance. The couple's ballet connection dates to Susannah teaching Prince his first pirouette as they were walking down Melrose Avenue while recording the soundtrack to Purple Rain.

Reply #33 posted 09/24/17 4:29pm

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

Vashtix said:

Denise did not sell anything for profits and she could have. She did not get rid of certain keepsakes per info shared here. Denise has nothing to do with how others handle their business. She clearly was not pimping Prince or felt letters etc between them needed to be given to the highest bidder. Please do not piss on her grave. It was not who she was. She loved Prince and honored him til the day she died. If any of his friends and associates decide to sell their stuff that is up to them and there is no need to validate or orove or disprove. People are known by their actions not their words. Watch and learn. Listen and be deceived.

Vashtix

Vashtix

Vashtix

We know from previous threads that you have a 'romantic' connection with Denise & Prince.

Pimping Prince? How can anyone 'pimp' Prince? He is dead.
Who owns any of the things Denise Matthews left behind?

Will they be respected and cared for? or will they be lost forever in the passage of time?

Prince and Denise Matthews were no longer lovers.

Prince was married twice and Denise was married twice.

That would constitute adultery, even if there was just

an emotional-romantic bond.

Denise wouldn't be down with that.

.

And the pissing on the grave thing. really?
Please... stop.

Watch and learn?

Listen and be deceived?

huh?
What is this? hmm

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #34 posted 09/24/17 4:30pm

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

yep

Life happens

laurarichardson said:

Is she touring with FDeluxe right now? When was the last time they performed? Is Susan working in the entertainment industry or publically complaining about her ex-husband while selling t-shirts and mugs connected to her time with Prince.

The fact that she needs money is even mentioned in the interview with Jon Bream from the Star Tribune.

Eric plays at a nightclub in Minneapolis and actually has a few songs on Tidal. He has said that he is happy playing his gig at the nightclub meaning he has a job.

OldFriends4Sale said:

yeah she took ballet, so I don't understand peoples issue with her teaching a move. It was just one turn/twirl move.

I don't know how she is lazy, from the time the Family band reconnected she's been working and touring.

and before that she's sung/written with/for Madonna Eric Clapton Seal Roger Waters Mike Oldfield Stevie Wonder, Erykah Badu, D'Angelo, Bilal, Oliver Leiber, Chaka Khan...

and others including Doyle Bramhall II who she ended up marrying. Who she was married to for about 10yrs with 2 kids. And of course with W&L CoEd(Sheila E) etc

I don't see how that constitutes 'lazy' . Maybe an issue with her being a woman, because no one is ripping Eric Leeds.

And it was Prince who wrote the note to her in 1995 about the Glam Slam 'ballet'

20915544_1432259216827268_531209453878537092_n.jpg?oh=80b017b498a51abfe383315c0764ce9e&oe=5A4E04AF

the consignor affirms that Prince likewise wrote this note to Susannah to get her opinion on his ballet because of their shared love of dance. The couple's ballet connection dates to Susannah teaching Prince his first pirouette as they were walking down Melrose Avenue while recording the soundtrack to Purple Rain.

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #35 posted 09/24/17 4:41pm

purplerabbithole

I am glad she and he talked again after that argument. I don't know what I think about airing grievances in public like that. He did it back at her a bit in that rambling 2015 interview and people on here and elsewhere ripped hiim a new one for that, but I am glad he pulled the interview and later contacted her again before he died. . What a shame it would have been if he had died with that being their last conversation.

OldFriends4Sale said:

And up to that point as I said they had an ongoing friendship. And then sometime later Prince and her talked.

You seem really emotionally invested in not liking her.

Is it about 'loyalty'?

laurarichardson said:

And he stopped communicating with her as their talks were over this defunkt group he wanted to die. She is only telling us her side of those coversations. I am sure he had some reason to stop speaking to her. End of the line I do not believe a word this women has to say. I hope she sells everything and disappears into the night but I know she will be back with more stuff and a book.

She appears to have no job and if this is the case and she does come back with another "I am Prince's old girlfriend from 30 years ago and I need money" schemes do not be surprised.

Reply #36 posted 09/24/17 4:46pm

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

I agree, a long time friendship,

It seems it was intertwined in the discussion of FDeluxe

so maybe that is why is came that way

that is 25+ yrs of knowing someone

same with Sheila E

I'll tell U what, I know better, i know all of this, but Prince's passing and time passing not saying things that may need to be said ie Jill Jones and memoirs, items and wills
This is all a 2nd or 3rd wake up call to 'keep my house in order'

purplerabbithole said:

I am glad she and he talked again after that argument. I don't know what I think about airing grievances in public like that. He did it back at her a bit in that rambling 2015 interview and people on here and elsewhere ripped hiim a new one for that, but I am glad he pulled the interview and later contacted her again before he died. . What a shame it would have been if he had died with that being their last conversation.

OldFriends4Sale said:

And up to that point as I said they had an ongoing friendship. And then sometime later Prince and her talked.

You seem really emotionally invested in not liking her.

Is it about 'loyalty'?

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #37 posted 09/24/17 5:10pm

laurarichardson

Once again we have no means of knowing what the last conversation he had with her was about or if it even took place it is Susannah's story. I am glad Ebony published that interview again after he died and I had ooproblem with it it. He was being real " he wrote the Beautiful Ones about Vanity and he said again after Vanity dies so what was so horrible about his saying it in that interview. The song was not about her and she ran with that story for years.

purplerabbithole said:

I am glad she and he talked again after that argument. I don't know what I think about airing grievances in public like that. He did it back at her a bit in that rambling 2015 interview and people on here and elsewhere ripped hiim a new one for that, but I am glad he pulled the interview and later contacted her again before he died. . What a shame it would have been if he had died with that being their last conversation.

OldFriends4Sale said:

And up to that point as I said they had an ongoing friendship. And then sometime later Prince and her talked.

You seem really emotionally invested in not liking her.

Is it about 'loyalty'?

Reply #38 posted 09/24/17 5:13pm

laurarichardson

Keep ignoring those question marks you are just proving me right. She is a lazy old girlfriend that needs to get a job and stop pimping Prince to make a living. End of story. Oh and look up the work pimp.

OldFriends4Sale said:

yep

Life happens

laurarichardson said:

Is she touring with FDeluxe right now? When was the last time they performed? Is Susan working in the entertainment industry or publically complaining about her ex-husband while selling t-shirts and mugs connected to her time with Prince.

The fact that she needs money is even mentioned in the interview with Jon Bream from the Star Tribune.

Eric plays at a nightclub in Minneapolis and actually has a few songs on Tidal. He has said that he is happy playing his gig at the nightclub meaning he has a job.

Reply #39 posted 09/24/17 5:17pm

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

why do you hate her so much that you want to come between Prince & Susannah's friendship?

I'm glad he reconnected with as many people as he did.

What does any of this have to do with their friendship, not yours. You were not friends with Prince.

They were friends, get over it...

Hell I had a split with my uncle for over 5 yrs before we spoke again and reconnected

.

AOL LIVE / JULY 22, 1997

Question: What was your inspiration for the song Forever In My Life?
TheArtst: Susannah
TheArtst: she knows

laurarichardson said:

Once again we have no means of knowing what the last conversation he had with her was about or if it even took place it is Susannah's story. I am glad Ebony published that interview again after he died and I had ooproblem with it it. He was being real " he wrote the Beautiful Ones about Vanity and he said again after Vanity dies so what was so horrible about his saying it in that interview. The song was not about her and she ran with that story for years.

purplerabbithole said:

I am glad she and he talked again after that argument. I don't know what I think about airing grievances in public like that. He did it back at her a bit in that rambling 2015 interview and people on here and elsewhere ripped hiim a new one for that, but I am glad he pulled the interview and later contacted her again before he died. . What a shame it would have been if he had died with that being their last conversation.

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #40 posted 09/24/17 5:19pm

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

wow 'such nastiness' Laurarichardson my my my

laurarichardson said:

Keep ignoring those question marks you are just proving me right. She is a lazy old girlfriend that needs to get a job and stop pimping Prince to make a living. End of story. Oh and look up the work pimp.

OldFriends4Sale said:

yep

Life happens

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #41 posted 09/24/17 5:24pm

laurarichardson

Real talk with no cupcaking.

OldFriends4Sale said:

wow 'such nastiness' Laurarichardson my my my

laurarichardson said:

Keep ignoring those question marks you are just proving me right. She is a lazy old girlfriend that needs to get a job and stop pimping Prince to make a living. End of story. Oh and look up the work pimp.

Reply #42 posted 09/24/17 5:26pm

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

ok

laurarichardson said:

Real talk with no cupcaking.

OldFriends4Sale said:

wow 'such nastiness' Laurarichardson my my my

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #43 posted 09/24/17 5:40pm

purplerabbithole

Wendy was asked when was the last time she talked to P, and she said that P was trying to get Susannah's number. She said it was a casual uneventual conversation she (meaning Wendy) had with P.

Even if the last conversation with Susannah was an argument, his contacting her again is better than his shunning a friend from his life completely.

His clearing the air about who wrote the song was not a bad thing necessarily (and I understand his need to retake his own narrative but he also seemed a bit too angry about it, the Vault, Susan etc in an unhealthy way.) . He seemed paranoid and trying too hard to convince himself that he was happy being alone. I felt bad for him and all of his old friends/associates. THere seemed to be pain and distrust coming from him. And his thoughts (if they were reported correctly) were a mess of loose associations. Some of his talk should have been reserved for a psychologist or personal conversations with friends,not some magazine that would exploit his issues and relationships for sales or online hits. Prince needed to open up more but not to reporters but privately to friends. I am going to assume that old girlfriends are a bit closer to friends than reporters ever were (even if they occassionally claim songs were written about them. BTW what does a songbeing based off you do for your actual career..Not a whole lot if you can't sell a book about it due to cease and desists...

.

I find that interview of his very disconcerting for many reasons. He kept things from his old friends to the very end, I am assuming, but had he lived and continuing reaching out to some of his old friends , he might have been able to get some help. Unfortunately, we will never know.

.

laurarichardson said:

Once again we have no means of knowing what the last conversation he had with her was about or if it even took place it is Susannah's story. I am glad Ebony published that interview again after he died and I had ooproblem with it it. He was being real " he wrote the Beautiful Ones about Vanity and he said again after Vanity dies so what was so horrible about his saying it in that interview. The song was not about her and she ran with that story for years.

purplerabbithole said:

I am glad she and he talked again after that argument. I don't know what I think about airing grievances in public like that. He did it back at her a bit in that rambling 2015 interview and people on here and elsewhere ripped hiim a new one for that, but I am glad he pulled the interview and later contacted her again before he died. . What a shame it would have been if he had died with that being their last conversation.

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[Edited 9/24/17 17:49pm]

Reply #44 posted 09/24/17 7:06pm

GaryMF

OldFriends4Sale said:

why do you hate her so much that you want to come between Prince & Susannah's friendship?

I think Laura simply hates the Melovins because they are white. Just what I get from reading all her rants.

rainbow
Reply #45 posted 09/24/17 8:01pm

Zannaloaf

laurarichardson said:

She is just trying to make herself look good. Who the hell keeps some old shredded leg warmers from 30 years ago? Or proposal notes from your ex-boyfriend when you long since remarried? Must have made for an interesting conversation with her ex. People were auctioning off Prince's things before he passed away and he wound buy the stuff or send a cease and desist letter. Remember he was the one that said people stole stuff all the time. As far as ballet is concerned we have already heard that he took Balket lessons with some art group when he was a teen so Susannah did not have to teach him ballet. Just more B.S from this lazy ass women. It is Prince's fault for having such bad taste. purplerabbithole said:

a.) I can live with her getting money off of Prince as long as she feels obligated to say something nice or find nice things to sell. She could sell things in a tacky tasteless way like Mayte. Remember her describing her wedding dress as tacky on tv when he was still alive.


b.) her justifications at least prove that she is thinking about not wanting to come off exploitative. And she has a valid point about how keeping that stuff to herself would likely mean her kids wouldn't know how to honor the possessions. these justifications prove that she at least had to feel alright with it in her own mind before proceeding. She has his leg warmers because he gave them to her when it was super cold outside. She explained that they were shredded from his heels. The stories about their love of ballet, how much they loved a second-hand store wand in glitter in it, his proposal (the handwriting is the florist's) , their shared interest in painting--those are lovely things to say. She doesn't even brag about herself except to imply that he liked her ballet dancing (which is why he sent her that letter in 1996 asking her to listen to his ballet) and that she was teaching him how to dance ballet..(come on, Prince not being a nature ballet dancer isn't exactly an insult.)

As for not selling it earlier, collectors wouldn't have cared earlier. They wouldn't have taken that stuff as seriously as she had. they might have been careless with it. Those willing to shell out money for that stuff now will take care of it better. Do you honestly think she decided in a calculated way to keep that stuff related to him for all those years just in case he happens to die a sad death so she can sell it more than 1 and a half years after his death.

wow you're bitter. It's as if you had a personal relaitonship with ANY of these people. But in fact did not.

Reply #46 posted 09/24/17 8:56pm

purplefam99

Vashtix said:

Denise did not sell anything for profits and she could have. She did not get rid of certain keepsakes per info shared here.
Denise has nothing to do with how others handle their business. She clearly was not pimping Prince or felt letters etc between them needed to be given to the highest bidder. Please do not piss on her grave. It was not who she was.
She loved Prince and honored him til the day she died.
If any of his friends and associates decide to sell their stuff that is up to them and there is no need to validate or orove or disprove. People are known by their actions not their words.
Watch and learn. Listen and be deceived.




I agree that your last sentence calling to watch the actions of people first is most important in deciphering intentions. How one shows love is more important.
I think Denise's actions spoke. The other lady can do as she pleases, those actions will speak.
Reply #47 posted 09/24/17 9:38pm

Goddess4Real

purplefam99 said:


Vashtix said:
Denise did not sell anything for profits and she could have. She did not get rid of certain keepsakes per info shared here. Denise has nothing to do with how others handle their business. She clearly was not pimping Prince or felt letters etc between them needed to be given to the highest bidder. Please do not piss on her grave. It was not who she was. She loved Prince and honored him til the day she died. If any of his friends and associates decide to sell their stuff that is up to them and there is no need to validate or orove or disprove. People are known by their actions not their words. Watch and learn. Listen and be deceived.
I agree that your last sentence calling to watch the actions of people first is most important in deciphering intentions. How one shows love is more important. I think Denise's actions spoke. The other lady can do as she pleases, those actions will speak.

yeahthat

Keep Calm & Listen To Prince
Reply #48 posted 09/25/17 12:42am

jaawwnn

Good grief its not a competition
Reply #49 posted 09/25/17 4:11am

laurarichardson

(and I understand his need to retake his own narrative but he also seemed a bit too angry about it, the Vault, Susan etc in an unhealthy way.)

He was angry because he was tired of their lies and crap which are still going on. If you cannot let something go after a person dies what does that say about you. Susannah could not part with this items without including a narrative about her self.

She is the one that will not let it all go. I hope she is done with carrying on about someone she dates 30 years ago but I suspect she will be back with a book or more trinkets again and again until she has milked her association with him for all that she can .

I feel sorry for Susannah not Prince at least he knew how to move on.

purplerabbithole said:

Wendy was asked when was the last time she talked to P, and she said that P was trying to get Susannah's number. She said it was a casual uneventual conversation she (meaning Wendy) had with P.

Even if the last conversation with Susannah was an argument, his contacting her again is better than his shunning a friend from his life completely.

His clearing the air about who wrote the song was not a bad thing necessarily (and I understand his need to retake his own narrative but he also seemed a bit too angry about it, the Vault, Susan etc in an unhealthy way.) . He seemed paranoid and trying too hard to convince himself that he was happy being alone. I felt bad for him and all of his old friends/associates. THere seemed to be pain and distrust coming from him. And his thoughts (if they were reported correctly) were a mess of loose associations. Some of his talk should have been reserved for a psychologist or personal conversations with friends,not some magazine that would exploit his issues and relationships for sales or online hits. Prince needed to open up more but not to reporters but privately to friends. I am going to assume that old girlfriends are a bit closer to friends than reporters ever were (even if they occassionally claim songs were written about them. BTW what does a songbeing based off you do for your actual career..Not a whole lot if you can't sell a book about it due to cease and desists...

.

I find that interview of his very disconcerting for many reasons. He kept things from his old friends to the very end, I am assuming, but had he lived and continuing reaching out to some of his old friends , he might have been able to get some help. Unfortunately, we will never know.

.

laurarichardson said:

Once again we have no means of knowing what the last conversation he had with her was about or if it even took place it is Susannah's story. I am glad Ebony published that interview again after he died and I had ooproblem with it it. He was being real " he wrote the Beautiful Ones about Vanity and he said again after Vanity dies so what was so horrible about his saying it in that interview. The song was not about her and she ran with that story for years.

[Edited 9/24/17 17:42pm]

[Edited 9/24/17 17:49pm]

Reply #50 posted 09/25/17 4:13am

laurarichardson

jaawwnn said:

Good grief its not a competition

No one said it was. I used Vanity as an example of a ladyfriend who did not exploit her time with Prince for the rest of her days. I suspect she was in a much more dire financial stituation then Susannah is in. Did I say anything about the comparision between the two that was incorrect?

Actions speak louder then words. Susannah tells on herself with her behavior and her words. You want to share his stuff with his fans then donate this crap to a museum and some of the stuff on the auction is literally crap.

How come she did not try to sell this stuff when he was around? As far as this great love affair why was he seeing Devin, Sheila, Jill and who know who else. Then sent her butt back to Minni while making Under The Cherry Moon.

She is full of bull. If you need money she say you need money.

[Edited 9/25/17 5:01am]

Reply #51 posted 09/25/17 5:23am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

jaawwnn said:

Good grief its not a competition

lol this is what some of these 'fans' are doing to the women WHO KNEW PRINCE

johnwoo uzi shoot2 johnwoo chainsaw machinegun shoot shoot3

picking sides on who they live vicariously through

Prince is dead and gone, and not concerned about this down here

I hope these people love their own family friends just as hard

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #52 posted 09/25/17 5:25am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

The person who asked SUSANNAH and ERIC LEEDS to auction some things, approached them.

And then the person asked for information on the background of these things, so people understand the significance. ALL Auctions go this way.

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #53 posted 09/25/17 5:58am

laurarichardson

OldFriends4Sale said:

The person who asked SUSANNAH and ERIC LEEDS to auction some things, approached them.

And then the person asked for information on the background of these things, so people understand the significance. ALL Auctions go this way.

With audio instead of written narrative. I love Stacia and the tamborine. "He left it on a desk so I assumed he wanted me to have it" Stealing ass !!!

Next a housekeeper will be selling his underware. " I thought he wanted me to have the drawes"

Reply #54 posted 09/25/17 6:36am

purplefam99

it is not a competition. it is an obersvation. but it seems his little brother is getting a beating for his ACTION of

putting a group together, so it seems that ACTIONS are speaking louder than words. why not here too.

Reply #55 posted 09/25/17 6:55am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

this thread

lol

Don't get on the scale

if you ain't got the weight

It's more harder 2 love

than it is 2 hate

It's more harder 2 love

than it is 2 hate

Escape

Free your mind from this rat race

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #56 posted 09/25/17 11:00am

paulludvig

purplerabbithole said:

smart classy woman. I don't know all her motivations or feelings where P is concerned but she seems very sensible here. She understands that if you are going to sell stuff related to him, you need to do so with some respect for the man who owned the stuff in the first place. I loved the pireoutte (sic) story. I do think she has love in her heart for him even if it is more complicated than she probably reveals here.

I wasn't thrilled about these auctioned things at first. But she made a valid point about legacy. She knows that if she just wills it to her kids, they won't get the significance as much as a collector would. they wouldn't care for the items with the same delicacy and honor (and really why burden them with that responsibility) . She auctioned things with only positivity attached to them and waited a year and a half after his death to start the process of letting items go. And now we have loving stories to accompany it. She might need a little money but people have more than one motivation for their actions and I am okay with that.

[Edited 9/23/17 9:33am]

So know the Melvoins want to take credit for Prince's dancing?! lol

The wooh is on the one!
Reply #57 posted 09/25/17 11:06am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

paulludvig said:

purplerabbithole said:

smart classy woman. I don't know all her motivations or feelings where P is concerned but she seems very sensible here. She understands that if you are going to sell stuff related to him, you need to do so with some respect for the man who owned the stuff in the first place. I loved the pireoutte (sic) story. I do think she has love in her heart for him even if it is more complicated than she probably reveals here.

I wasn't thrilled about these auctioned things at first. But she made a valid point about legacy. She knows that if she just wills it to her kids, they won't get the significance as much as a collector would. they wouldn't care for the items with the same delicacy and honor (and really why burden them with that responsibility) . She auctioned things with only positivity attached to them and waited a year and a half after his death to start the process of letting items go. And now we have loving stories to accompany it. She might need a little money but people have more than one motivation for their actions and I am okay with that.

[Edited 9/23/17 9:33am]

So know the Melvoins want to take credit for Prince's dancing?! lol

U mean 1 ballet twirl?

What do you think of New Power Soul band?

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #58 posted 09/25/17 11:07am

paulludvig

OldFriends4Sale said:

paulludvig said:

So know the Melvoins want to take credit for Prince's dancing?! lol

U mean 1 ballet twirl?

What do you think of New Power Soul band?

Huh?

The wooh is on the one!
Reply #59 posted 09/25/17 11:10am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

paulludvig said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

U mean 1 ballet twirl?

What do you think of New Power Soul band?

Huh?

Susannah was talking about a Ballet dance spin.

They fucked and drew pictures together,..

Paulludvig, all the topics happening and all U C is 'Melvoin' lol

Dude, Omar and Marva King(NPG singer) created a band called New Power Soul

there is a sticky on it

Check THAT out

juniorballet_pirouette__50274.1415907802.500.750.jpg?c=2

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #60 posted 09/25/17 11:25am

paulludvig

OldFriends4Sale said:

paulludvig said:

Huh?

Susannah was talking about a Ballet dance spin.

They fucked and drew pictures together,..

Paulludvig, all the topics happening and all U C is 'Melvoin' lol

Dude, Omar and Marva King(NPG singer) created a band called New Power Soul

there is a sticky on it

Check THAT out

juniorballet_pirouette__50274.1415907802.500.750.jpg?c=2

The pirouette was one of Prince's signature moves. And know she takes credit for teaching it to him?

The wooh is on the one!
Reply #61 posted 09/25/17 11:28am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

paulludvig said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Susannah was talking about a Ballet dance spin.

They fucked and drew pictures together,..

Paulludvig, all the topics happening and all U C is 'Melvoin' lol

Dude, Omar and Marva King(NPG singer) created a band called New Power Soul

there is a sticky on it

Check THAT out

juniorballet_pirouette__50274.1415907802.500.750.jpg?c=2

The pirouette was one of Prince's signature moves. And know she takes credit for teaching it to him?

She did take ballet.
I doubt Prince or most men knew how to do it.

This definately wasn't a move he was doing on the 1999 Controversy or Dirty Mind tour

you see him doing it on the Parade tour and after

And so what?

They were kissing singing fucking drawing together

.

Check out New Power Soul-2017

.

20915544_1432259216827268_531209453878537092_n.jpg?oh=80b017b498a51abfe383315c0764ce9e&oe=5A4E04AF

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #62 posted 09/25/17 11:31am

paulludvig

OldFriends4Sale said:

paulludvig said:

The pirouette was one of Prince's signature moves. And know she takes credit for teaching it to him?

She did take ballet.
I doubt Prince or most men know how to do it.

This definately wasn't a move he was doing on the 1999 Controversy or Dirty Mind tour

And so what? seriously

They were fucking, not you lol

Check out New Power Soul-2017

He did spins before the PR tour? Probably got that from James Brown.

Did she take ballet the same way W&L studied classical music? At what conservatory?

The wooh is on the one!
Reply #63 posted 09/25/17 11:35am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

paulludvig said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

She did take ballet.
I doubt Prince or most men know how to do it.

This definately wasn't a move he was doing on the 1999 Controversy or Dirty Mind tour

And so what? seriously

They were fucking, not you lol

Check out New Power Soul-2017

He did spins before the PR tour? Probably got that from James Brown.

Did she take ballet the same way W&L studied classical music? At what conservatory?

Splits?

I don't ever remember him doing that type of ballet spin before the PR tour

James Brown did not do ballet spins

Remember Prince did not do a LOT of dancing prior to 1984

He was mostly on his guitar.
1999 we see him doing more dancing, but it was the PR tour and then the Parade tour even moreso

.

Paul lol out of all the threads why do you focus on all things Melvoin lol

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #64 posted 09/25/17 11:41am

paulludvig

OldFriends4Sale said:

paulludvig said:

He did spins before the PR tour? Probably got that from James Brown.

Did she take ballet the same way W&L studied classical music? At what conservatory?

Splits?

I don't ever remember him doing that type of ballet spin before the PR tour

James Brown did not do ballet spins

Remember Prince did not do a LOT of dancing prior to 1984

He was mostly on his guitar.
1999 we see him doing more dancing, but it was the PR tour and then the Parade tour even moreso

.

Paul lol out of all the threads why do you focus on all things Melvoin lol

I guess the Melvoins made Prince a better dancer. He wasn't worth much on his own. As we all know.

The wooh is on the one!
Reply #65 posted 09/25/17 11:42am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

paulludvig said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Splits?

I don't ever remember him doing that type of ballet spin before the PR tour

James Brown did not do ballet spins

Remember Prince did not do a LOT of dancing prior to 1984

He was mostly on his guitar.
1999 we see him doing more dancing, but it was the PR tour and then the Parade tour even moreso

.

Paul lol out of all the threads why do you focus on all things Melvoin lol

I guess the Melvoins made Prince a better dancer. He wasn't worth much on his own. As we all know.

oh stop flame baiting rolleyes

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #66 posted 09/25/17 12:26pm

laurarichardson

OldFriends4Sale said:

paulludvig said:

The pirouette was one of Prince's signature moves. And know she takes credit for teaching it to him?

She did take ballet.
I doubt Prince or most men knew how to do it.

This definately wasn't a move he was doing on the 1999 Controversy or Dirty Mind tour

you see him doing it on the Parade tour and after

And so what?

They were kissing singing fucking drawing together

.

Check out New Power Soul-2017

.

20915544_1432259216827268_531209453878537092_n.jpg?oh=80b017b498a51abfe383315c0764ce9e&oe=5A4E04AF

Once again Prince took ballet lessons from an art group in Minneapolis when he was a teen. You also realize that many football and basketball players sometimes to take ballet to learn how to leap.

It took ballet classes before he met her. He knew about jazz before the Melvoins or Leeds came along as his dad was a jazz musician. I am sure from the letter that was up for auction from when he was 20 he had excellent penmanship before he met her. Unless Sue flew out to minneapolis from high school to help Prince with his penmanship when he was 20 year old grown man.

She is full of B.S.

She is lucky his family is so clueless. If he were my relative she would go some place and shut up.

Dancers recall Prince as ...ballet ...

May 5, 2016 - While growing up, Prince had ballet training through an initiative called the Urban Arts Program. It connected students “who didn't fit into the traditional academic world” with local arts institutions, explained Minnesota Dance Theatre (MDT) artistic director Lise Houlton. Prince took

http://www.startribune.com/dancers-recall-prince-as-a-hard-working-darling-in-tights-and-ballet-slippers/378179261/

[Edited 9/25/17 12:31pm]

Reply #67 posted 09/25/17 12:38pm

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

She did take ballet.
I doubt Prince or most men knew how to do it.

This definately wasn't a move he was doing on the 1999 Controversy or Dirty Mind tour

you see him doing it on the Parade tour and after

And so what?

They were kissing singing fucking drawing together

.

Check out New Power Soul-2017

.

20915544_1432259216827268_531209453878537092_n.jpg?oh=80b017b498a51abfe383315c0764ce9e&oe=5A4E04AF

Once again Prince took ballet lessons from an art group in Minneapolis when he was a teen. You also realize that many football and basketball players sometimes to take ballet to learn how to leap.

It took ballet classes before he met her. He knew about jazz before the Melvoins or Leeds came along as his dad was a jazz musician. I am sure from the letter that was up for auction from when he was 20 he had excellent penmanship before he met her. Unless Sue flew out to minneapolis from high school to help Prince with his penmanship when he was 20 year old grown man.

She is full of B.S.

She is lucky his family is so clueless. If he were my relative she would go some place and shut up.

Dancers recall Prince as ...ballet ...

May 5, 2016 - While growing up, Prince had ballet training through an initiative called the Urban Arts Program. It connected students “who didn't fit into the traditional academic world” with local arts institutions, explained Minnesota Dance Theatre (MDT) artistic director Lise Houlton. Prince took

http://www.startribune.com/dancers-recall-prince-as-a-hard-working-darling-in-tights-and-ballet-slippers/378179261/

[Edited 9/25/17 12:31pm]

He asked her to show him how to do that particular ballet move. This really should not be such a blow up debate.

Most of that article was during the preperation for the PR movie filming. During the same PR period.

Just because someone took a class when they were young doesn't mean they have mastered the art of Ballet. So he asked her to refresh him on 1 particular move? so what?

.

Oh so that's it, you want to be in Prince's family.
So what, he had sex with her, was friends with her, she recorded with him etc not you

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #68 posted 09/25/17 3:21pm

purplerabbithole

First I don't recall her ever saying she "taught" Prince his lovely handwriting. I heard that she too liked to write pretty as a kid. I used to do the same thing--practice my handwriting just for fun with my best friend after school in 5th grade.

Secondly, her teaching him how to perfect a move does not take away from his ability/artistry. He chose to brush up on his ballet moves, he chose to master a spin so that it would better his stage presense.

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

She did take ballet.
I doubt Prince or most men knew how to do it.

This definately wasn't a move he was doing on the 1999 Controversy or Dirty Mind tour

you see him doing it on the Parade tour and after

And so what?

They were kissing singing fucking drawing together

.

Check out New Power Soul-2017

.

20915544_1432259216827268_531209453878537092_n.jpg?oh=80b017b498a51abfe383315c0764ce9e&oe=5A4E04AF

Once again Prince took ballet lessons from an art group in Minneapolis when he was a teen. You also realize that many football and basketball players sometimes to take ballet to learn how to leap.

It took ballet classes before he met her. He knew about jazz before the Melvoins or Leeds came along as his dad was a jazz musician. I am sure from the letter that was up for auction from when he was 20 he had excellent penmanship before he met her. Unless Sue flew out to minneapolis from high school to help Prince with his penmanship when he was 20 year old grown man.

She is full of B.S.

She is lucky his family is so clueless. If he were my relative she would go some place and shut up.

Dancers recall Prince as ...ballet ...

May 5, 2016 - While growing up, Prince had ballet training through an initiative called the Urban Arts Program. It connected students “who didn't fit into the traditional academic world” with local arts institutions, explained Minnesota Dance Theatre (MDT) artistic director Lise Houlton. Prince took

http://www.startribune.com/dancers-recall-prince-as-a-hard-working-darling-in-tights-and-ballet-slippers/378179261/

[Edited 9/25/17 12:31pm]

Reply #69 posted 09/25/17 6:11pm

Zannaloaf

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

The person who asked SUSANNAH and ERIC LEEDS to auction some things, approached them.

And then the person asked for information on the background of these things, so people understand the significance. ALL Auctions go this way.

With audio instead of written narrative. I love Stacia and the tamborine. "He left it on a desk so I assumed he wanted me to have it" Stealing ass !!!

Next a housekeeper will be selling his underware. " I thought he wanted me to have the drawes"

You're like a one woman reality show! i think we should do an "Angry PrinceFam" reality show with you as the focus point.
Would be HILARIOUS.

Reply #70 posted 09/25/17 6:30pm

Strawberrylova123

Count on prince.org to turn a beautiful interview into a negative one lol
Reply #71 posted 09/25/17 6:39pm

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

Strawberrylova123 said:

Count on prince.org to turn a beautiful interview into a negative one lol

Type Melvoin in the title and the trolls come out

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #72 posted 09/25/17 6:40pm

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

THIS

purplerabbithole said:

First I don't recall her ever saying she "taught" Prince his lovely handwriting. I heard that she too liked to write pretty as a kid. I used to do the same thing--practice my handwriting just for fun with my best friend after school in 5th grade.

Secondly, her teaching him how to perfect a move does not take away from his ability/artistry. He chose to brush up on his ballet moves, he chose to master a spin so that it would better his stage presense.

laurarichardson said:

Once again Prince took ballet lessons from an art group in Minneapolis when he was a teen. You also realize that many football and basketball players sometimes to take ballet to learn how to leap.

It took ballet classes before he met her. He knew about jazz before the Melvoins or Leeds came along as his dad was a jazz musician. I am sure from the letter that was up for auction from when he was 20 he had excellent penmanship before he met her. Unless Sue flew out to minneapolis from high school to help Prince with his penmanship when he was 20 year old grown man.

She is full of B.S.

She is lucky his family is so clueless. If he were my relative she would go some place and shut up.

Dancers recall Prince as ...ballet ...

May 5, 2016 - While growing up, Prince had ballet training through an initiative called the Urban Arts Program. It connected students “who didn't fit into the traditional academic world” with local arts institutions, explained Minnesota Dance Theatre (MDT) artistic director Lise Houlton. Prince took

http://www.startribune.com/dancers-recall-prince-as-a-hard-working-darling-in-tights-and-ballet-slippers/378179261/

[Edited 9/25/17 12:31pm]

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #73 posted 09/25/17 7:08pm

laurarichardson

Zannaloaf said:

 



laurarichardson said:


 



OldFriends4Sale said:


The person who asked SUSANNAH and ERIC LEEDS to auction some things, approached them.


And then the person asked for information on the background of these things, so people understand the significance.  ALL Auctions go this way.


 


 



With audio instead of written narrative. I love Stacia and the tamborine. "He left it on a desk so I assumed he wanted me to have it"  Stealing ass !!! 


 


Next a housekeeper will be selling his underware. " I thought he wanted me to have the drawes" 


 


 



You're like a one woman reality show! i think we should do an "Angry PrinceFam" reality show with you as the focus point.
Would be HILARIOUS. 


No I think the ex-employees of Prince should have their own reality show.
Reply #74 posted 09/25/17 7:20pm

Strawberrylova123

OldFriends4Sale said:

 



Strawberrylova123 said:


Count on prince.org to turn a beautiful interview into a negative one lol

 


 


Type Melvoin in the title and the trolls come out


 


 


Why can't people appreciate everybody
Reply #75 posted 09/26/17 1:35am

laurarichardson

Strawberrylova123 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

 



Strawberrylova123 said:


Count on prince.org to turn a beautiful interview into a negative one lol

 


 


Type Melvoin in the title and the trolls come out


 


 


Why can't people appreciate everybody

--Please explain what some people should be appreciated for?
Reply #76 posted 09/26/17 2:15am

anangellooksdown

OldFriends4Sale said:

* Not involved in his life for 30yrs? They continued to be friends the whole of Prince's life.


 


1. the note about the ballet 0+> wrote to Susannah in 1995 and then asked her to write him back. It is clear they continued to communicate

2. They were talking on the phone a lot during the time of FDeluxe. Then Prince got upset with her some time in the last few years on the phone, and then reconnected with her in the year before he died


 


3. He's had her on stage with him @ Paisley Park in 1989 during the US Lovesexy tour with Wendy & Lisa, he's had Susannah on stage with W & L during the ONA period to do A Love Bizarre and another song.  Dedicated In This Bed I Scream to her Lisa & W on Emanicipation.  Had her as one of the women on a possible all woman band in 1998 via the One video hidden messages


.


.


*  According to Denise Matthews she got rid of all of that stuff when she had her conversion.  I cannot see her holding onto that stuff..


 


I got rid of all the lingerie and cleaned house,” she explained.


 


http://www.mustardseedstories.com/demons-wanted-me-the-testimony-of-denise-matthews-formerly-known-as-vanity/


 


The experience led to her religious conversion, as she said that she’d received a vision from Jesus as she lay dying. She said that God wanted her to metaphorically “kill” Vanity and she did, reportedly discarding every interview or recording of herself as the sexed-up pop star, distancing herself from the entertainment world, and going by her given name only: Denise Matthews.


 


http://www.thedailybeast.com/the-sexy-holy-saga-of-vanity-princes-muse-who-found-god


 


 


 


 



laurarichardson said:


You are really missing the point. She was not involved in his life for 30 years this women saved some tatted leg warmers like some vulture waiting for him to die when she could have thrown it away or given some it back to him the point is she did not try and sell it when he was alive for a reason. She talk all the bull she wants but at the end of the day she is doing this stuff to make a buck because her deadbeat husband will not support her and she will not get a job. Think about Vanity and her 100,000.00 in medical bills and how she sold nothing and said very little. purplerabbithole said:

Supposedly they talked three months before he died. If I recall correctly, according to Wendy, he asked how she was doing (divorce related, I believe). Unless P invited her to Paisley and was completely honest about how much he was struggling, how could she know how much help he needed or that he would die within the week?  Plus, Prince didn't like being weak in front of people--its possible she could have traveled all the way up to PP and he still would have avoided seeing her or would have gave her the runaround and kept it brief..


Cut people not in his immediate circle a bit of a break. I do think they all may have advertedly or inadvertedly exploited his death a bit since he died, but that's doesn't mean we should assume that they knew he was on death's door and basically told him to go fuck himself.


 


 


 


 




 



Sal I seem to remember Prince had called Susannah out of love, and Susannah as usual used words that came across strangely and Prince reacted. He was extremely sensitive and sometines injured easily. Then they didn't speak again.
Theres an interview somewhere on the Org with her shortly after his passing in which I could tell this was the case.

I'm sorry but as much as I love Susannah when she started selling Starfish and Coffee T Shirts right after his passing (wasn't she the first to do something like that?) that really rubbed me the wrong way.

Not trying to judge her, I just don't see Damaris or Andy or Lala selling his stuff. I do believe it's about the money and publicity, even though she might have some heart strings tied up in it.
~Paisley Park is in your heart~
Reply #77 posted 09/26/17 2:40am

anangellooksdown

OldFriends4Sale said:

 



Vashtix said:


Denise did not sell anything for profits and she could have. She did not get rid of certain keepsakes per info shared here. Denise has nothing to do with how others handle their business. She clearly was not pimping Prince or felt letters etc between them needed to be given to the highest bidder. Please do not piss on her grave. It was not who she was. She loved Prince and honored him til the day she died. If any of his friends and associates decide to sell their stuff that is up to them and there is no need to validate or orove or disprove. People are known by their actions not their words. Watch and learn. Listen and be deceived.

 


Vashtix


Vashtix


Vashtix


 


We know from previous threads that you have a 'romantic' connection with Denise & Prince.


 


Pimping Prince?  How can anyone 'pimp' Prince? He is dead.
Who owns any of the things Denise Matthews left behind?


Will they be respected and cared for? or will they be lost forever in the passage of time?


 


Prince and Denise Matthews were no longer lovers. 


Prince was married twice and Denise was married twice.


That would constitute adultery, even if there was just


an emotional-romantic bond.


Denise wouldn't be down with that.


.


And the pissing on the grave thing.  really?
Please... stop.


Watch and learn?


Listen and be deceived?


huh?
What is this? hmm



It is true that if things weren't sold to people who really want them, they might get lost in time, and it might be better to have them sold. I do think if someone doesn't want them anymore then they can sell them. I guess personally I can't relate to that since Prince means so much to me and even though I'd have memories I would also keep the mementos until my own passing. Maybe that would be selfish of me.
It's not the action I'm looking at so much as the motive. I just wish people would be honest. "I have my memories and other things from that period of my life. I really need or would rather have the money and know there are people who will take good care of these items."
~Paisley Park is in your heart~
Reply #78 posted 09/26/17 3:11am

laurarichardson

OldFriends4Sale said:

 



laurarichardson said:


 



OldFriends4Sale said:


 


 


She did take ballet.
I doubt Prince or most men knew how to do it.


This definately wasn't a move he was doing on the 1999 Controversy or Dirty Mind tour


you see him doing it on the Parade tour and after


And so what?


They were kissing singing fucking drawing together


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Once again Prince took ballet lessons from an art group in Minneapolis when he was a teen. You also realize that many football and basketball players sometimes to take ballet to learn how to leap. 


 


It took ballet classes before he met her. He knew about jazz before the Melvoins or Leeds came along as his dad was a jazz musician.  I am sure from the letter that was up for auction from when he  was 20 he had excellent penmanship before he met her. Unless Sue flew out to minneapolis from high school to help Prince with his penmanship when he was 20 year old grown man. 


She is full of B.S. 


 


She is lucky his family is so clueless. If he were my relative she would go some place and shut up. 


 


 


Dancers recall Prince as a hard-working 'darling' in tights and ballet ...




May 5, 2016 - While growing up, Prince had ballet training through an initiative called the Urban Arts Program. It connected students “who didn't fit into the traditional academic world” with local arts institutions, explained Minnesota Dance Theatre (MDT) artistic director Lise Houlton. Prince took

 


http://www.startribune.com/dancers-recall-prince-as-a-hard-working-darling-in-tights-and-ballet-slippers/378179261/


 


 


[Edited 9/25/17 12:31pm]



 


He asked her to show him how to do that particular ballet move. This really should not be such a blow up debate.


Most of that article was during the preperation for the PR movie filming.  During the same PR period.


Just because someone took a class when they were young doesn't mean they have mastered the art of Ballet. So he asked her to refresh him on 1 particular move? so what?


 


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Oh so that's it, you want to be in Prince's family.
So what, he had sex with her, was friends with her, she recorded with him etc not you


 


 


 


No one said he mastered Ballet. I said he took classes as a youth and that Suzi Q is overstating her involvement. What does my simply stating what is factual have to do with wanting to be in Prince's family? What does that comment have to do with this discussion? I do not give a fuck about who Prince got with or recorded with and have never implied anything of the sort. You think everyone that calls out the leeches is envious of the leeches? Why would I be envious of a women who does not work and who continually carries on about her boyfriend from 30 years ago who ran around her the entire time they were together. If she was smart she would knock it off and stop embarrassing herself.
[Edited 9/26/17 3:12am]
Reply #79 posted 09/26/17 5:07am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

Strawberrylova123 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Type Melvoin in the title and the trolls come out

Why can't people appreciate everybody

It's mostly a symptom of their own heart

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #80 posted 09/26/17 5:15am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

anangellooksdown said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

* Not involved in his life for 30yrs? They continued to be friends the whole of Prince's life.

1. the note about the ballet 0+> wrote to Susannah in 1995 and then asked her to write him back. It is clear they continued to communicate

2. They were talking on the phone a lot during the time of FDeluxe. Then Prince got upset with her some time in the last few years on the phone, and then reconnected with her in the year before he died

3. He's had her on stage with him @ Paisley Park in 1989 during the US Lovesexy tour with Wendy & Lisa, he's had Susannah on stage with W & L during the ONA period to do A Love Bizarre and another song. Dedicated In This Bed I Scream to her Lisa & W on Emanicipation. Had her as one of the women on a possible all woman band in 1998 via the One video hidden messages

.

.

* According to Denise Matthews she got rid of all of that stuff when she had her conversion. I cannot see her holding onto that stuff..

I got rid of all the lingerie and cleaned house,” she explained.

http://www.mustardseedstories.com/demons-wanted-me-the-testimony-of-denise-matthews-formerly-known-as-vanity/

The experience led to her religious conversion, as she said that she’d received a vision from Jesus as she lay dying. She said that God wanted her to metaphorically “kill” Vanity and she did, reportedly discarding every interview or recording of herself as the sexed-up pop star, distancing herself from the entertainment world, and going by her given name only: Denise Matthews.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/the-sexy-holy-saga-of-vanity-princes-muse-who-found-god

Sal I seem to remember Prince had called Susannah out of love, and Susannah as usual used words that came across strangely and Prince reacted. He was extremely sensitive and sometines injured easily. Then they didn't speak again. Theres an interview somewhere on the Org with her shortly after his passing in which I could tell this was the case. I'm sorry but as much as I love Susannah when she started selling Starfish and Coffee T Shirts right after his passing (wasn't she the first to do something like that?) that really rubbed me the wrong way. Not trying to judge her, I just don't see Damaris or Andy or Lala selling his stuff. I do believe it's about the money and publicity, even though she might have some heart strings tied up in it.

I posted it on post #24 I don't think it was anything disrespectful. She was tending to her children, she said Prince was never in her space at such a moment trying to put them to bed.

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The Starfish & Coffee items came as a result of a random person capitalizing off the song and making money. It had nothing to do with Prince's passing.

.

Damaris & Lala might not have anything, Damaris didn't date Prince, (I still don't know what is or isn't with Lala-she really has no 'spot' in the vision outside of 'acting' in a Prince video with QTip)

Also Andy is more 'recent'. There is no real 'history' yet to her and Prince. Very much a part of fun time on the 2nd 1/2 of Welcome 2 tours. But I think 'items' from earlier time periods might have more weight in value, financial or historic. Also Susannah is older that those other 3 in their 20s. An older person will view life and items much different than young women.

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #81 posted 09/26/17 5:36am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

anangellooksdown said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Vashtix

Vashtix

Vashtix

We know from previous threads that you have a 'romantic' connection with Denise & Prince.

Pimping Prince? How can anyone 'pimp' Prince? He is dead.
Who owns any of the things Denise Matthews left behind?

Will they be respected and cared for? or will they be lost forever in the passage of time?

Prince and Denise Matthews were no longer lovers.

Prince was married twice and Denise was married twice.

That would constitute adultery, even if there was just

an emotional-romantic bond.

Denise wouldn't be down with that.

.

And the pissing on the grave thing. really?
Please... stop.

Watch and learn?

Listen and be deceived?

huh?
What is this? hmm

It is true that if things weren't sold to people who really want them, they might get lost in time, and it might be better to have them sold. I do think if someone doesn't want them anymore then they can sell them. I guess personally I can't relate to that since Prince means so much to me and even though I'd have memories I would also keep the mementos until my own passing. Maybe that would be selfish of me. It's not the action I'm looking at so much as the motive. I just wish people would be honest. "I have my memories and other things from that period of my life. I really need or would rather have the money and know there are people who will take good care of these items."

It depends. I look at 'possessions' much differently now, especially after having dealt with an aunt who has a hording issue. The emotional attachment to things is very strong.

.

Before I bought my home, I lived in a house that was family owned since their Italian grandmother bought it in 1940 something. The manys father passed away a few months after I moved in. The man/son for years just would not remove anything, update the house(outside of where I lived-I just would update it and tell him) But old rocking horse in the basement, the grandmothers things in the attic, couldn't touch the rosebushes -even though a weed tree was growing right up in the middle of one etc. He didn't live there physically, but he was still tied their emotionally.

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I think the holding on of things or the letting go of things during a loss or greiving process will always be different for each person. There cannot be a set pattern for grieving. The time needed for each individual is going to be different. But if someone is still stuck in process 20yrs later, that is not healthy. But also depending on what it is, if someone shuts down and 'tries' to cut off very early, I don't think that is healthy either, but more understandable. 'Love your neighbor as yourself' If someone is lashing out at people, hurting people etc as a part of their grieving or holding on to the deceased, that is a serious problem.

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My cousin passed away from cancer a few years ago. I watched her parents deal with that.
I also watched the 'get rid of everything' that belonged to her. It was really shocking to see it.

You would think people would hold onto a lot of stuff. But being 70something and living light affected it. The kept all pictures though, and they had one of those 'amusement' park pastel portraits she did when she was young, they kept that and framed it. But I talked them about how they processed it. And it was too much stuff was painful to hold on to, they gave a lot of items to her siblings.

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I'm going to hold onto things from people I 'physically-intimately' know much easier than a 'star' I love Prince as much as you can someone you don't know, but it would be easier for me to part with 'Prince' items vs my parents siblings friend or lover. I do think about what is going to happen to my Prince collection (albums, cds, photos and my own 'vault' of unreleased music) if I don't wake up tomorrow.

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #82 posted 09/26/17 5:42am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

He asked her to show him how to do that particular ballet move. This really should not be such a blow up debate.

Most of that article was during the preperation for the PR movie filming. During the same PR period.

Just because someone took a class when they were young doesn't mean they have mastered the art of Ballet. So he asked her to refresh him on 1 particular move? so what?

.

Oh so that's it, you want to be in Prince's family.
So what, he had sex with her, was friends with her, she recorded with him etc not you

No one said he mastered Ballet. I said he took classes as a youth and that Suzi Q is overstating her involvement. What does my simply stating what is factual have to do with wanting to be in Prince's family? What does that comment have to do with this discussion? I do not give a fuck about who Prince got with or recorded with and have never implied anything of the sort. You think everyone that calls out the leeches is envious of the leeches? Why would I be envious of a women who does not work and who continually carries on about her boyfriend from 30 years ago who ran around her the entire time they were together. If she was smart she would knock it off and stop embarrassing herself. [Edited 9/26/17 3:12am]

But you are implying it. By saying he took a class or two in 'middle school' that he needed no one else to teach him or refresh him. So should we be similarly upset with the people at the Dance school in 1984 who talked about teaching him?

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If you look at it in the content of while he and the band(s) are taking these dance instructions in 1984, Prince & Susannah walking down a quiet street and Prince saying "I need to get that move down, show it to me again" and they are twirling in the street. How is that such a cause of contention? I mean this is what happens in real life and love.

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Well you say you are a women, and I can understand your reaction to other women who actually had a relationship with Prince and how you think they should be behave.

Yeah you do 'give a fuck' with who Prince got with, that is why you knew of Lala(who?) and that she and Prince were supposedly having sex(while he was either celebate or with Bria Valente)

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #83 posted 09/26/17 6:40am

disch

Exactly. It was a cute, minor story about Susannah and Prince pirhouetting in the street one night 30+ years ago. I can't imagine any rational person becoming enraged by that innocuous anecdote.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Prince & Susannah walking down a quiet street and Prince saying "I need to get that move down, show it to me again" and they are twirling in the street. How is that such a cause of contention? I mean this is what happens in real life and love.

Reply #84 posted 09/26/17 6:42am

anangellooksdown

OldFriends4Sale said:

 



anangellooksdown said:


OldFriends4Sale said:

* Not involved in his life for 30yrs? They continued to be friends the whole of Prince's life.


 


1. the note about the ballet 0+> wrote to Susannah in 1995 and then asked her to write him back. It is clear they continued to communicate

2. They were talking on the phone a lot during the time of FDeluxe. Then Prince got upset with her some time in the last few years on the phone, and then reconnected with her in the year before he died


 


3. He's had her on stage with him @ Paisley Park in 1989 during the US Lovesexy tour with Wendy & Lisa, he's had Susannah on stage with W & L during the ONA period to do A Love Bizarre and another song.  Dedicated In This Bed I Scream to her Lisa & W on Emanicipation.  Had her as one of the women on a possible all woman band in 1998 via the One video hidden messages


.


.


*  According to Denise Matthews she got rid of all of that stuff when she had her conversion.  I cannot see her holding onto that stuff..


 


I got rid of all the lingerie and cleaned house,” she explained.


 


http://www.mustardseedstories.com/demons-wanted-me-the-testimony-of-denise-matthews-formerly-known-as-vanity/


 


The experience led to her religious conversion, as she said that she’d received a vision from Jesus as she lay dying. She said that God wanted her to metaphorically “kill” Vanity and she did, reportedly discarding every interview or recording of herself as the sexed-up pop star, distancing herself from the entertainment world, and going by her given name only: Denise Matthews.


 


http://www.thedailybeast.com/the-sexy-holy-saga-of-vanity-princes-muse-who-found-god


 


 


 


 


 



Sal I seem to remember Prince had called Susannah out of love, and Susannah as usual used words that came across strangely and Prince reacted. He was extremely sensitive and sometines injured easily. Then they didn't speak again. Theres an interview somewhere on the Org with her shortly after his passing in which I could tell this was the case. I'm sorry but as much as I love Susannah when she started selling Starfish and Coffee T Shirts right after his passing (wasn't she the first to do something like that?) that really rubbed me the wrong way. Not trying to judge her, I just don't see Damaris or Andy or Lala selling his stuff. I do believe it's about the money and publicity, even though she might have some heart strings tied up in it.

 


I posted it on post #24  I don't think it was anything disrespectful. She was tending to her children, she said Prince was never in her space at such a moment trying to put them to bed. 


.


The Starfish & Coffee items came as a result of a random person capitalizing off the song and making money. It had nothing to do with Prince's passing. 


.


Damaris & Lala might not have anything, Damaris didn't date Prince, (I still don't know what is or isn't with Lala-she really has no 'spot' in the vision outside of 'acting' in a Prince video with QTip)


Also Andy is more 'recent'.  There is no real 'history' yet to her and Prince. Very much a part of fun time on the 2nd 1/2 of Welcome 2 tours. But I think 'items' from earlier time periods might have more weight in value, financial or historic. Also Susannah is older that those other 3 in their 20s. An older person will view life and items much different than young women.


 


 



Ok now with all due respect I have a different perspective of all of this.
First, this is what Susannah said (you posted this in reply #24):

Susannah: My last contact with him was about the name of our band. He stopped talking to me. Completely. We’ve always talked throughout the years. But when it came to that it was the reason he’ll never talk to me again?
Susannah: We all tried to tell them that. The last time we spoke he heard my kids in the background, and my youngest one was little at the time, he said, “Is this a bad time?” I said, “No. I’m about to put my kids to sleep.” He had never actually heard that part of my world. It wasn’t a bad time. I said, “They are my concern but you have my time right now. “ He didn’t like that. He told Paul I was belligerent and that was enough for him. That’s 25 years of a friendship of sorts. I wouldn’t call it a real friendship. Prince said, “I’m done. I’m not going to speak to her. I’m only going to speak with you Paul,” And he had never spoken to Paul in any of the years. Ever.

What she was saying was this: "My kids are more important than you, but..."
That wasn't the response of a friend. The response of a friends would be something like this: "I have to put the kids to bed but I really want to talk. Can I call you back in a half hour or tomorrow?"
She also says that Prince had "never heard this part of my life before." What she is telling us without meaning to is that she knew this would hurt him because either he'd know she was trying to show off or make him jealous and Prince didn't dig that stuff, or maybe even there was a bit of regret that he didn't have that in his life.
Remember, she knew Prince well and he her, and she knew what buttons to push With him, and she and some others were also bitter towards him as we know from the way they talked about him so often before he died.

Now Prince forgives all of that now, and may have not always been good to her, we don't know, but it seems like old resentment was always brewing with her and some others.

2nd, I don't understand what that means, that the selling of the tee-shirts was a "random person capitalizing off the song." Am I missing something? I always thought she just started selling them right after he died.

3rd, I know the more recent girls are more recent, but Andy has his ear clips I think, Damaris as a friend only must have eons of photos and more, and Lala must have photos and other things too. Lala does capitalize somewhat by telling us things constantly about him but none of these girls have sold things that would still hold high value to Purple Fam and collectors. The only difference I see is that the older ones are farther away from the years they were at their most active, creative and lucrative!
nod

Just putting my perspective out there to be honest.
[Edited 9/26/17 6:43am]
[Edited 9/26/17 6:45am]
~Paisley Park is in your heart~
Reply #85 posted 09/26/17 6:52am

anangellooksdown

OldFriends4Sale said:

 



anangellooksdown said:


OldFriends4Sale said:

 


 


Vashtix


Vashtix


Vashtix


 


We know from previous threads that you have a 'romantic' connection with Denise & Prince.


 


Pimping Prince?  How can anyone 'pimp' Prince? He is dead.
Who owns any of the things Denise Matthews left behind?


Will they be respected and cared for? or will they be lost forever in the passage of time?


 


Prince and Denise Matthews were no longer lovers. 


Prince was married twice and Denise was married twice.


That would constitute adultery, even if there was just


an emotional-romantic bond.


Denise wouldn't be down with that.


.


And the pissing on the grave thing.  really?
Please... stop.


Watch and learn?


Listen and be deceived?


huh?
What is this? hmm



It is true that if things weren't sold to people who really want them, they might get lost in time, and it might be better to have them sold. I do think if someone doesn't want them anymore then they can sell them. I guess personally I can't relate to that since Prince means so much to me and even though I'd have memories I would also keep the mementos until my own passing. Maybe that would be selfish of me. It's not the action I'm looking at so much as the motive. I just wish people would be honest. "I have my memories and other things from that period of my life. I really need or would rather have the money and know there are people who will take good care of these items."

 


 


It depends. I look at 'possessions' much differently now, especially after having dealt with an aunt who has a hording issue.  The emotional attachment to things is very strong. 


.


Before I bought my home, I lived in a house that was family owned since their Italian grandmother bought it in 1940 something.  The manys father passed away a few months after I moved in. The man/son for years just would not remove anything, update the house(outside of where I lived-I just would update it and tell him) But old rocking horse in the basement, the grandmothers things in the attic, couldn't touch the rosebushes -even though a weed tree was growing right up in the middle of one etc.  He didn't live there physically, but he was still tied their emotionally.


.


I think the holding on of things or the letting go of things during a loss or greiving process will always be different for each person. There cannot be a set pattern for grieving.  The time needed for each individual is going to be different.  But if someone is still stuck in process 20yrs later, that is not healthy. But also depending on what it is, if someone shuts down and 'tries' to cut off very early, I don't think that is healthy either, but more understandable. 'Love your neighbor as yourself' If someone is lashing out at people, hurting people etc as a part of their grieving or holding on to the deceased, that is a serious problem.


.


My cousin passed away from cancer a few years ago. I watched her parents deal with that.
I also watched the 'get rid of everything' that belonged to her. It was really shocking to see it.


You would think people would hold onto a lot of stuff.  But being 70something and living light affected it.  The kept all pictures though, and they had one of those 'amusement' park pastel portraits she did when she was young, they kept that and framed it.  But I talked them about how they processed it. And it was too much stuff was painful to hold on to, they gave a lot of items to her siblings. 


.


I'm going to hold onto things from people I 'physically-intimately' know much easier than a 'star' I love Prince as much as you can someone you don't know, but it would be easier for me to part with 'Prince' items vs my parents siblings friend or lover.  I do think about what is going to happen to my Prince collection (albums, cds, photos and my own 'vault' of unreleased music) if I don't wake up tomorrow.



Yes there is a balance about what to hold on to and what to let go of.
Here's a thought: if Susannah can let go of love notes and a marriage proposal from someone who's both a star and a past love, why not just give them away?
~Paisley Park is in your heart~
Reply #86 posted 09/26/17 6:55am

anangellooksdown

IMO, of the women, the ones who've been the most respectful are Damaris and Bria. The whole topic though is kind of a double-edged issue, because there would also be less to know or have about Prince without those who talk and sell things. 😀
[Edited 9/26/17 6:57am]
~Paisley Park is in your heart~
Reply #87 posted 09/26/17 6:56am

laurarichardson

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said: No one said he mastered Ballet. I said he took classes as a youth and that Suzi Q is overstating her involvement. What does my simply stating what is factual have to do with wanting to be in Prince's family? What does that comment have to do with this discussion? I do not give a fuck about who Prince got with or recorded with and have never implied anything of the sort. You think everyone that calls out the leeches is envious of the leeches? Why would I be envious of a women who does not work and who continually carries on about her boyfriend from 30 years ago who ran around her the entire time they were together. If she was smart she would knock it off and stop embarrassing herself. [Edited 9/26/17 3:12am]

But you are implying it. By saying he took a class or two in 'middle school' that he needed no one else to teach him or refresh him. So should we be similarly upset with the people at the Dance school in 1984 who talked about teaching him?

.

If you look at it in the content of while he and the band(s) are taking these dance instructions in 1984, Prince & Susannah walking down a quiet street and Prince saying "I need to get that move down, show it to me again" and they are twirling in the street. How is that such a cause of contention? I mean this is what happens in real life and love.

.

Well you say you are a women, and I can understand your reaction to other women who actually had a relationship with Prince and how you think they should be behave.

Yeah you do 'give a fuck' with who Prince got with, that is why you knew of Lala(who?) and that she and Prince were supposedly having sex(while he was either celebate or with Bria Valente)

But you are implying it. By saying he took a class or two in 'middle school' that he needed no one else to teach him or refresh him. So should we be similarly upset with the people at the Dance school in 1984 who talked about teaching him?

.

I am saying in plain English she is mentioning it to get attention for herself. She is attentioning seeking.

The people at the dance program are teachers they are suppose to teach.

If you look at it in the content of while he and the band(s) are taking these dance instructions in 1984, Prince & Susannah walking down a quiet street and Prince saying "I need to get that move down, show it to me again" and they are twirling in the street. How is that such a cause of contention? I mean this is what happens in real life and love.

Not contention. It is just Suzi Q inserting herself when she does not have to.

.

Well you say you are a women, and I can understand your reaction to other women who actually had a relationship with Prince and how you think they should be behave.

Yeah you do 'give a fuck' with who Prince got with, that is why you knew of Lala(who?) and that she and Prince were supposedly having sex(while he was either celebate or with Bria Valente)

So all women who call out his old girlfriends are angry because they did not get to sleep with Prince? Not the fact that I am commenting on asshat behavior an example would be Marva King and her crazy ass post. So know women can comment on anything these crazy chicks are saying unless we are envious? Do you realize how that comes across and how you come across for going there?

I know who La La is because she mentioned on this board prior to that I had no idea who she was. I checked out her Facebook and IG because she said some really nice things about him and for a while was the only person who knew him who came right out and said the rumors were B.S. You know something a friend should do. I do not know or care if she was having sex with Prince and she never said anything of the sort. We just know when she was around because of the videos she was in. Dr. Funkenberry even posted some still shots from some of the vids she did so he knows her as well.

One thing La La is not doing is making a living off of Prince's memory which I guess is why you do not who she is.

Reply #88 posted 09/26/17 6:56am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

anangellooksdown said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

It depends. I look at 'possessions' much differently now, especially after having dealt with an aunt who has a hording issue. The emotional attachment to things is very strong.

.

Before I bought my home, I lived in a house that was family owned since their Italian grandmother bought it in 1940 something. The manys father passed away a few months after I moved in. The man/son for years just would not remove anything, update the house(outside of where I lived-I just would update it and tell him) But old rocking horse in the basement, the grandmothers things in the attic, couldn't touch the rosebushes -even though a weed tree was growing right up in the middle of one etc. He didn't live there physically, but he was still tied their emotionally.

.

I think the holding on of things or the letting go of things during a loss or greiving process will always be different for each person. There cannot be a set pattern for grieving. The time needed for each individual is going to be different. But if someone is still stuck in process 20yrs later, that is not healthy. But also depending on what it is, if someone shuts down and 'tries' to cut off very early, I don't think that is healthy either, but more understandable. 'Love your neighbor as yourself' If someone is lashing out at people, hurting people etc as a part of their grieving or holding on to the deceased, that is a serious problem.

.

My cousin passed away from cancer a few years ago. I watched her parents deal with that.
I also watched the 'get rid of everything' that belonged to her. It was really shocking to see it.

You would think people would hold onto a lot of stuff. But being 70something and living light affected it. The kept all pictures though, and they had one of those 'amusement' park pastel portraits she did when she was young, they kept that and framed it. But I talked them about how they processed it. And it was too much stuff was painful to hold on to, they gave a lot of items to her siblings.

.

I'm going to hold onto things from people I 'physically-intimately' know much easier than a 'star' I love Prince as much as you can someone you don't know, but it would be easier for me to part with 'Prince' items vs my parents siblings friend or lover. I do think about what is going to happen to my Prince collection (albums, cds, photos and my own 'vault' of unreleased music) if I don't wake up tomorrow.

Yes there is a balance about what to hold on to and what to let go of. Here's a thought: if Susannah can let go of love notes and a marriage proposal from someone who's both a star and a past love, why not just give them away?

Because she also knows the importance of stuff in the 'canon' of Prince history?

The RR auction is about curators, people who will know how to 'keep' / 'preserve' items for the future. I thought to myself too, why not give them to Paisley Park. But for some reason I think PP is still too wishy washy.

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #89 posted 09/26/17 6:57am

laurarichardson

anangellooksdown said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

It depends. I look at 'possessions' much differently now, especially after having dealt with an aunt who has a hording issue. The emotional attachment to things is very strong.

.

Before I bought my home, I lived in a house that was family owned since their Italian grandmother bought it in 1940 something. The manys father passed away a few months after I moved in. The man/son for years just would not remove anything, update the house(outside of where I lived-I just would update it and tell him) But old rocking horse in the basement, the grandmothers things in the attic, couldn't touch the rosebushes -even though a weed tree was growing right up in the middle of one etc. He didn't live there physically, but he was still tied their emotionally.

.

I think the holding on of things or the letting go of things during a loss or greiving process will always be different for each person. There cannot be a set pattern for grieving. The time needed for each individual is going to be different. But if someone is still stuck in process 20yrs later, that is not healthy. But also depending on what it is, if someone shuts down and 'tries' to cut off very early, I don't think that is healthy either, but more understandable. 'Love your neighbor as yourself' If someone is lashing out at people, hurting people etc as a part of their grieving or holding on to the deceased, that is a serious problem.

.

My cousin passed away from cancer a few years ago. I watched her parents deal with that.
I also watched the 'get rid of everything' that belonged to her. It was really shocking to see it.

You would think people would hold onto a lot of stuff. But being 70something and living light affected it. The kept all pictures though, and they had one of those 'amusement' park pastel portraits she did when she was young, they kept that and framed it. But I talked them about how they processed it. And it was too much stuff was painful to hold on to, they gave a lot of items to her siblings.

.

I'm going to hold onto things from people I 'physically-intimately' know much easier than a 'star' I love Prince as much as you can someone you don't know, but it would be easier for me to part with 'Prince' items vs my parents siblings friend or lover. I do think about what is going to happen to my Prince collection (albums, cds, photos and my own 'vault' of unreleased music) if I don't wake up tomorrow.

Yes there is a balance about what to hold on to and what to let go of. Here's a thought: if Susannah can let go of love notes and a marriage proposal from someone who's both a star and a past love, why not just give them away?

She would not make any money if she gave them away. She could have given this stuff to Paisely Park.

Reply #90 posted 09/26/17 6:57am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

But you are implying it. By saying he took a class or two in 'middle school' that he needed no one else to teach him or refresh him. So should we be similarly upset with the people at the Dance school in 1984 who talked about teaching him?

.

If you look at it in the content of while he and the band(s) are taking these dance instructions in 1984, Prince & Susannah walking down a quiet street and Prince saying "I need to get that move down, show it to me again" and they are twirling in the street. How is that such a cause of contention? I mean this is what happens in real life and love.

.

Well you say you are a women, and I can understand your reaction to other women who actually had a relationship with Prince and how you think they should be behave.

Yeah you do 'give a fuck' with who Prince got with, that is why you knew of Lala(who?) and that she and Prince were supposedly having sex(while he was either celebate or with Bria Valente)

But you are implying it. By saying he took a class or two in 'middle school' that he needed no one else to teach him or refresh him. So should we be similarly upset with the people at the Dance school in 1984 who talked about teaching him?

.

I am saying in plain English she is mentioning it to get attention for herself. She is attentioning seeking.

The people at the dance program are teachers they are suppose to teach.

If you look at it in the content of while he and the band(s) are taking these dance instructions in 1984, Prince & Susannah walking down a quiet street and Prince saying "I need to get that move down, show it to me again" and they are twirling in the street. How is that such a cause of contention? I mean this is what happens in real life and love.

Not contention. It is just Suzi Q inserting herself when she does not have to.

.

Well you say you are a women, and I can understand your reaction to other women who actually had a relationship with Prince and how you think they should be behave.

Yeah you do 'give a fuck' with who Prince got with, that is why you knew of Lala(who?) and that she and Prince were supposedly having sex(while he was either celebate or with Bria Valente)

So all women who call out his old girlfriends are angry because they did not get to sleep with Prince? Not the fact that I am commenting on asshat behavior an example would be Marva King and her crazy ass post. So know women can comment on anything these crazy chicks are saying unless we are envious? Do you realize how that comes across and how you come across for going there?

I know who La La is because she mentioned on this board prior to that I had no idea who she was. I checked out her Facebook and IG because she said some really nice things about him and for a while was the only person who knew him who came right out and said the rumors were B.S. You know something a friend should do. I do not know or care if she was having sex with Prince and she never said anything of the sort. We just know when she was around because of the videos she was in. Dr. Funkenberry even posted some still shots from some of the vids she did so he knows her as well.

One thing La La is not doing is making a living off of Prince's memory which I guess is why you do not who she is.

You implied it, you were the one that started bitching about it. You implied it.

You informed me of all the background of 'Lala' the video chick

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #91 posted 09/26/17 7:02am

laurarichardson

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

But you are implying it. By saying he took a class or two in 'middle school' that he needed no one else to teach him or refresh him. So should we be similarly upset with the people at the Dance school in 1984 who talked about teaching him?

.

I am saying in plain English she is mentioning it to get attention for herself. She is attentioning seeking.

The people at the dance program are teachers they are suppose to teach.

If you look at it in the content of while he and the band(s) are taking these dance instructions in 1984, Prince & Susannah walking down a quiet street and Prince saying "I need to get that move down, show it to me again" and they are twirling in the street. How is that such a cause of contention? I mean this is what happens in real life and love.

Not contention. It is just Suzi Q inserting herself when she does not have to.

.

Well you say you are a women, and I can understand your reaction to other women who actually had a relationship with Prince and how you think they should be behave.

Yeah you do 'give a fuck' with who Prince got with, that is why you knew of Lala(who?) and that she and Prince were supposedly having sex(while he was either celebate or with Bria Valente)

So all women who call out his old girlfriends are angry because they did not get to sleep with Prince? Not the fact that I am commenting on asshat behavior an example would be Marva King and her crazy ass post. So know women can comment on anything these crazy chicks are saying unless we are envious? Do you realize how that comes across and how you come across for going there?

I know who La La is because she mentioned on this board prior to that I had no idea who she was. I checked out her Facebook and IG because she said some really nice things about him and for a while was the only person who knew him who came right out and said the rumors were B.S. You know something a friend should do. I do not know or care if she was having sex with Prince and she never said anything of the sort. We just know when she was around because of the videos she was in. Dr. Funkenberry even posted some still shots from some of the vids she did so he knows her as well.

One thing La La is not doing is making a living off of Prince's memory which I guess is why you do not who she is.

You implied it, you were the one that started bitching about it. You implied it.

You informed me of all the background of 'Lala' the video chick

I implied it because it was not nessacry for Suzi Q to bring it up at all. Just like the nonsense about teaching him about Jazz from the Leeds.

The information about La La was already discussed on this board a long time ago.

Reply #92 posted 09/26/17 7:03am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

anangellooksdown said:

IMO, of the women, the ones who've been the most respectful are Damaris and Bria. The whole topic though is kind of a double-edged issue, because there would also be less to know or have about Prince without those who talk and sell things. 😀 [Edited 9/26/17 6:57am]

But isn't that based even on our perceptions.
.
I read earlier last year, in the threads where people were asking for associates/girlfriends and if they commented on Prince's passing. Bria came up and people accused her of not being respectful by not saying something.

.

so as varied as people are, we will get varied responses.

.

Women talk more than men in general (and we see that with the male associates vs the female)

.

Men grieve/release/express differently than women, (and we see that with the female associates vs the female)
.
Female 'fans' are being much more vicious with the women in general. Men are not.

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #93 posted 09/26/17 7:05am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

You implied it, you were the one that started bitching about it. You implied it.

You informed me of all the background of 'Lala' the video chick

I implied it because it was not nessacry for Suzi Q to bring it up at all. Just like the nonsense about teaching him about Jazz from the Leeds.

The information about La La was already discussed on this board a long time ago.

wow Laura, are you not displaced in this or what?

Did you even listen to the interview from RR Auction?

Are you serious?

/

THe auctioner asked her for background information on each piece. The same way he did with Eric Leeds and the same they would do for ANYONE their are receiving pieces from. This is what is generally the process.

She brought it up because she was asked, by the auctioner.

.

Lala or La La? aren't those 2 different people...

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #94 posted 09/26/17 7:17am

anangellooksdown

OldFriends4Sale said:

 



anangellooksdown said:


OldFriends4Sale said:

 


 


 


It depends. I look at 'possessions' much differently now, especially after having dealt with an aunt who has a hording issue.  The emotional attachment to things is very strong. 


.


Before I bought my home, I lived in a house that was family owned since their Italian grandmother bought it in 1940 something.  The manys father passed away a few months after I moved in. The man/son for years just would not remove anything, update the house(outside of where I lived-I just would update it and tell him) But old rocking horse in the basement, the grandmothers things in the attic, couldn't touch the rosebushes -even though a weed tree was growing right up in the middle of one etc.  He didn't live there physically, but he was still tied their emotionally.


.


I think the holding on of things or the letting go of things during a loss or greiving process will always be different for each person. There cannot be a set pattern for grieving.  The time needed for each individual is going to be different.  But if someone is still stuck in process 20yrs later, that is not healthy. But also depending on what it is, if someone shuts down and 'tries' to cut off very early, I don't think that is healthy either, but more understandable. 'Love your neighbor as yourself' If someone is lashing out at people, hurting people etc as a part of their grieving or holding on to the deceased, that is a serious problem.


.


My cousin passed away from cancer a few years ago. I watched her parents deal with that.
I also watched the 'get rid of everything' that belonged to her. It was really shocking to see it.


You would think people would hold onto a lot of stuff.  But being 70something and living light affected it.  The kept all pictures though, and they had one of those 'amusement' park pastel portraits she did when she was young, they kept that and framed it.  But I talked them about how they processed it. And it was too much stuff was painful to hold on to, they gave a lot of items to her siblings. 


.


I'm going to hold onto things from people I 'physically-intimately' know much easier than a 'star' I love Prince as much as you can someone you don't know, but it would be easier for me to part with 'Prince' items vs my parents siblings friend or lover.  I do think about what is going to happen to my Prince collection (albums, cds, photos and my own 'vault' of unreleased music) if I don't wake up tomorrow.



Yes there is a balance about what to hold on to and what to let go of. Here's a thought: if Susannah can let go of love notes and a marriage proposal from someone who's both a star and a past love, why not just give them away?

 


Because she also knows the importance of stuff in the 'canon' of Prince history?


 


The RR auction is about curators, people who will know how to 'keep' / 'preserve' items for the future.  I thought to myself too, why not give them to Paisley Park.  But for some reason I think PP is still too wishy washy.


 


 



I feel these items are too personal for PP: love notes etc.
I also agree, in my own words I am VERY worried about PP, I want to be sure it stays open for years to come. In this case she could sell them for almost nothing or give the $ to PP. or have some kind of fun thing to support P in some way.
[Edited 9/26/17 7:19am]
~Paisley Park is in your heart~
Reply #95 posted 09/26/17 7:25am

anangellooksdown

OldFriends4Sale said:

 



anangellooksdown said:


IMO, of the women, the ones who've been the most respectful are Damaris and Bria. The whole topic though is kind of a double-edged issue, because there would also be less to know or have about Prince without those who talk and sell things. 😀 [Edited 9/26/17 6:57am]

 


But isn't that based even on our perceptions.
.
I read earlier last year, in the threads where people were asking for associates/girlfriends and if they commented on Prince's passing.  Bria came up and people accused her of not being respectful by not saying something.


.


so as varied as people are, we will get varied responses.


.


Women talk more than men in general (and we see that with the male associates vs the female)


.


Men grieve/release/express differently than women, (and we see that with the female associates vs the female)
.
Female 'fans' are being much more vicious with the women in general. Men are not.



I don't mean to be vicious, I'm just being honest about what I see. I see your point about men fans. Yeah, I agree. Women are different I guess.
And the men associates have been mostly more authentic. You can just see Morris Day's love for P. I know his song and video was ALL from love. Also he never mentioned that he was the musical director for the tribute concert last year. I just found that out yesterday. I can't tell you how much I respect that man! I don't follow him so I would never have known he was such a great musician if someone else didn't say it looooong after the fact. Now that's what I'm talkin bout!
[Edited 9/26/17 7:33am]
~Paisley Park is in your heart~
Reply #96 posted 09/26/17 7:33am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

anangellooksdown said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

But isn't that based even on our perceptions.
.
I read earlier last year, in the threads where people were asking for associates/girlfriends and if they commented on Prince's passing. Bria came up and people accused her of not being respectful by not saying something.

.

so as varied as people are, we will get varied responses.

.

Women talk more than men in general (and we see that with the male associates vs the female)

.

Men grieve/release/express differently than women, (and we see that with the female associates vs the female)
.
Female 'fans' are being much more vicious with the women in general. Men are not.

I don't mean to be vicious, I'm just being honest about what I see. I see your point about men fans. Yeah, I agree. As for the men associates though, they have been mostly more authentic. You can just see Morris Day's love for P. I know his song and video was ALL from love. Also he never mentioned that he was the musical director for the tribute concert last year. I just found that out yesterday. I can't tell you how much I respect that man! I don't follow him so I would never have known he was such a great musician if someone else didn't say it looooong after the fact. Now that's what I'm talkin bout! [Edited 9/26/17 7:30am]

Oh no no no, I'm not talking about you Angellooksdown, not at all heart

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #97 posted 09/26/17 7:35am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

anangellooksdown said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

But isn't that based even on our perceptions.
.
I read earlier last year, in the threads where people were asking for associates/girlfriends and if they commented on Prince's passing. Bria came up and people accused her of not being respectful by not saying something.

.

so as varied as people are, we will get varied responses.

.

Women talk more than men in general (and we see that with the male associates vs the female)

.

Men grieve/release/express differently than women, (and we see that with the female associates vs the female)
.
Female 'fans' are being much more vicious with the women in general. Men are not.

I don't mean to be vicious, I'm just being honest about what I see. I see your point about men fans. Yeah, I agree. Women are different I guess. And the men associates have been mostly more authentic. You can just see Morris Day's love for P. I know his song and video was ALL from love. Also he never mentioned that he was the musical director for the tribute concert last year. I just found that out yesterday. I can't tell you how much I respect that man! I don't follow him so I would never have known he was such a great musician if someone else didn't say it looooong after the fact. Now that's what I'm talkin bout! [Edited 9/26/17 7:33am]

That was Morris Hayes, not Morris Day

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Morris Hayes has talked about it, but that is ok.
You have to talk about things or they just get lost in the time.
History and people forget if people don't talk about periods of time.

.

I think Prince's history and those with him are worth it. As well as many other artists musicians dancers poets etc who I might not know.

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #98 posted 09/26/17 7:58am

laurarichardson

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

I implied it because it was not nessacry for Suzi Q to bring it up at all. Just like the nonsense about teaching him about Jazz from the Leeds.

The information about La La was already discussed on this board a long time ago.

wow Laura, are you not displaced in this or what?

Did you even listen to the interview from RR Auction?

Are you serious?

/

THe auctioner asked her for background information on each piece. The same way he did with Eric Leeds and the same they would do for ANYONE their are receiving pieces from. This is what is generally the process.

She brought it up because she was asked, by the auctioner.

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Lala or La La? aren't those 2 different people...

I have never heard of an audio interview for an auction? It is just a means for trying to push these items and to try and explain herself which if she was really okay with it she would not have to do in the first place. That is my opinion.

I listened not impressed.

La La is one person. eek

Reply #99 posted 09/26/17 8:01am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

wow Laura, are you not displaced in this or what?

Did you even listen to the interview from RR Auction?

Are you serious?

/

THe auctioner asked her for background information on each piece. The same way he did with Eric Leeds and the same they would do for ANYONE their are receiving pieces from. This is what is generally the process.

She brought it up because she was asked, by the auctioner.

.

Lala or La La? aren't those 2 different people...

I have never heard of an audio interview for an auction? It is just a means for trying to push these items and to try and explain herself which if she was really okay with it she would not have to do in the first place. That is my opinion.

I listened not impressed.

La La is one person. eek

Did you hear it or not?

I don't even think you listened to it originally

or know anything about auctioning

You don't make sense here sister

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #100 posted 09/26/17 8:02am

laurarichardson

OldFriends4Sale said:

anangellooksdown said:

OldFriends4Sale said: Yes there is a balance about what to hold on to and what to let go of. Here's a thought: if Susannah can let go of love notes and a marriage proposal from someone who's both a star and a past love, why not just give them away?

Because she also knows the importance of stuff in the 'canon' of Prince history?

The RR auction is about curators, people who will know how to 'keep' / 'preserve' items for the future. I thought to myself too, why not give them to Paisley Park. But for some reason I think PP is still too wishy washy.

Graceland runs Paisly Park this is a company that has been managing Graceland for almost 40 years. They are coming up on there one year anniversity for PP and appear to be doing fine.

Nothing wishy washy is going on they just are not going to give Suzi Q money for some old legwarmes.

We can' t you admit this is about money?

Reply #101 posted 09/26/17 8:06am

laurarichardson

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

I have never heard of an audio interview for an auction? It is just a means for trying to push these items and to try and explain herself which if she was really okay with it she would not have to do in the first place. That is my opinion.

I listened not impressed.

La La is one person. eek

Did you hear it or not?

I don't even think you listened to it originally

or know anything about auctioning

You don't make sense here sister

I listened to it and I have been checking out this types of auctions for years. The person selling usually has a slight narrative to explain the item and how they came to have it. Sometimes their is a letter of authencity or a photo showing the item. I have never come across an audio for these types of sales.

They are trying to sell this crap and not getting the big bids they thought they would and Suzi Q is trying to put a good face on what she is doing.

I know Marketing and Sales. I also suspect she has more stuff to sell at a later date.

Reply #102 posted 09/26/17 8:12am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

ok LR

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #103 posted 09/26/17 8:52am

jaawwnn

I hope she makes a fortune off this crap, sure why not, and I hope you all feel better for passing judgement, sure why not. Everyone wins.

Reply #104 posted 09/26/17 9:23am

laurarichardson

jaawwnn said:

I hope she makes a fortune off this crap, sure why not, and I hope you all feel better for passing judgement, sure why not. Everyone wins.

Anyone in the public eye has judgement passed on them. If she did not want judgement passed on her she could have remain anonymous but then she would not be able to prove the authenticity of the items and therefore not make money.

I hope she sells it all and actually goes out and finds a job but I am sure we have not heard the last of her and I will come back and remind you all when she starts selling more stuff or promoting her book.

Reply #105 posted 09/26/17 9:25am

jaawwnn

laurarichardson said:

jaawwnn said:

I hope she makes a fortune off this crap, sure why not, and I hope you all feel better for passing judgement, sure why not. Everyone wins.

Anyone in the public eye has judgement passed on them. If she did not want judgement passed on her she could have remain anonymous but then she would not be able to prove the authenticity of the items and therefore not make money.

I hope she sells it all and actually goes out and finds a job but I am sure we have not heard the last of her and I will come back and remind you all when she starts selling more stuff or promoting her book.

lol lol

Oh I don't doubt that for one second.

Reply #106 posted 09/26/17 9:53am

PennyPurple

laurarichardson said:

I listened to it and I have been checking out this types of auctions for years. The person selling usually has a slight narrative to explain the item and how they came to have it. Sometimes their is a letter of authencity or a photo showing the item. I have never come across an audio for these types of sales.

They are trying to sell this crap and not getting the big bids they thought they would and Suzi Q is trying to put a good face on what she is doing.

I know Marketing and Sales. I also suspect she has more stuff to sell at a later date.

The leg warmers are selling for over $3300 last I checked.


The items are selling for more then they asked for, a few of the handwritten notebooks are going for $14,000.00 - $16,000.00 already.


The auction is going really, really well.

[Edited 9/26/17 10:00am]

Reply #107 posted 09/26/17 10:02am

anangellooksdown

OldFriends4Sale said:

 



anangellooksdown said:


OldFriends4Sale said:

 


 


But isn't that based even on our perceptions.
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I read earlier last year, in the threads where people were asking for associates/girlfriends and if they commented on Prince's passing.  Bria came up and people accused her of not being respectful by not saying something.


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so as varied as people are, we will get varied responses.


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Women talk more than men in general (and we see that with the male associates vs the female)


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Men grieve/release/express differently than women, (and we see that with the female associates vs the female)
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Female 'fans' are being much more vicious with the women in general. Men are not.



I don't mean to be vicious, I'm just being honest about what I see. I see your point about men fans. Yeah, I agree. Women are different I guess. And the men associates have been mostly more authentic. You can just see Morris Day's love for P. I know his song and video was ALL from love. Also he never mentioned that he was the musical director for the tribute concert last year. I just found that out yesterday. I can't tell you how much I respect that man! I don't follow him so I would never have known he was such a great musician if someone else didn't say it looooong after the fact. Now that's what I'm talkin bout! [Edited 9/26/17 7:33am]

 


 


That was Morris Hayes, not Morris Day


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Morris Hayes has talked about it, but that is ok.
You have to talk about things or they just get lost in the time.
History and people forget if people don't talk about periods of time.


 


.


I think Prince's history and those with him are worth it. As well as many other artists musicians dancers poets etc who I might not know.


 


 



LOL! Too funny. It was Morris HAYES, not Morris Day. Ok. Thx for the correction.
Yes things should be talked about so they can be known and documented. I do respect a person who lets others talk about them instead of themselves, but sometimes it is necessary that they share it themselves.
~Paisley Park is in your heart~
Reply #108 posted 09/26/17 10:22am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

laurarichardson said:

jaawwnn said:

I hope she makes a fortune off this crap, sure why not, and I hope you all feel better for passing judgement, sure why not. Everyone wins.

Anyone in the public eye has judgement passed on them. If she did not want judgement passed on her she could have remain anonymous but then she would not be able to prove the authenticity of the items and therefore not make money.

I hope she sells it all and actually goes out and finds a job but I am sure we have not heard the last of her and I will come back and remind you all when she starts selling more stuff or promoting her book.

ain't no body judging them but a few fan ladies in waiting...stiiiiill waiting. Prince ain't coming.

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #109 posted 09/26/17 10:23am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

anangellooksdown said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

That was Morris Hayes, not Morris Day

.

Morris Hayes has talked about it, but that is ok.
You have to talk about things or they just get lost in the time.
History and people forget if people don't talk about periods of time.

.

I think Prince's history and those with him are worth it. As well as many other artists musicians dancers poets etc who I might not know.

LOL! Too funny. It was Morris HAYES, not Morris Day. Ok. Thx for the correction. Yes things should be talked about so they can be known and documented. I do respect a person who lets others talk about them instead of themselves, but sometimes it is necessary that they share it themselves.

lol

Yes I agree on both points

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #110 posted 09/26/17 12:47pm

purplefam99

OldFriends4Sale said:

anangellooksdown said:

OldFriends4Sale said: I don't mean to be vicious, I'm just being honest about what I see. I see your point about men fans. Yeah, I agree. Women are different I guess. And the men associates have been mostly more authentic. You can just see Morris Day's love for P. I know his song and video was ALL from love. Also he never mentioned that he was the musical director for the tribute concert last year. I just found that out yesterday. I can't tell you how much I respect that man! I don't follow him so I would never have known he was such a great musician if someone else didn't say it looooong after the fact. Now that's what I'm talkin bout! [Edited 9/26/17 7:33am]

That was Morris Hayes, not Morris Day

.

Morris Hayes has talked about it, but that is ok.
You have to talk about things or they just get lost in the time.
History and people forget if people don't talk about periods of time.

.

I think Prince's history and those with him are worth it. As well as many other artists musicians dancers poets etc who I might not know.

^^^i honestly believe that is why people speak about Denise, not to cause upset, or because she is necessarily their

favorite. Just because of this, in most cases.^^^ my feeling.

Reply #111 posted 09/26/17 12:55pm

laurarichardson

jaawwnn said:

laurarichardson said:

Anyone in the public eye has judgement passed on them. If she did not want judgement passed on her she could have remain anonymous but then she would not be able to prove the authenticity of the items and therefore not make money.

I hope she sells it all and actually goes out and finds a job but I am sure we have not heard the last of her and I will come back and remind you all when she starts selling more stuff or promoting her book.

lol lol

Oh I don't doubt that for one second.

Mayte sent out a invite for an upcoming auction. Trust me more stuff is coming from Suzie Q as well.

Reply #112 posted 09/26/17 2:18pm

PennyPurple

laurarichardson said:

jaawwnn said:

lol lol

Oh I don't doubt that for one second.

Mayte sent out a invite for an upcoming auction. Trust me more stuff is coming from Suzie Q as well.

They don't want it, they might as well put it out there, so those that do can get it.

Reply #113 posted 09/26/17 2:32pm

laurarichardson

PennyPurple said:

 



laurarichardson said:


 



jaawwnn said:


 


lol lol

Oh I don't doubt that for one second.



Mayte sent out a invite for an upcoming auction. Trust me more stuff is coming from Suzie Q as well. 



They don't want it, they might as well put it out there, so those that do can get it.


Give it to the museum and I believe this will be Mayte's third go around.
Reply #114 posted 09/26/17 3:48pm

PennyPurple

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

They don't want it, they might as well put it out there, so those that do can get it.

Give it to the museum and I believe this will be Mayte's third go around.

Nah, the museum has soo much stuff as it is, this little stuff means nothing to the museum. Hell the diamond/engagement rings are probably pretty numerous too. biggrin

Reply #115 posted 09/26/17 4:03pm

morningsong

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said: Give it to the museum and I believe this will be Mayte's third go around.

Nah, the museum has soo much stuff as it is, this little stuff means nothing to the museum. Hell the diamond/engagement rings are probably pretty numerous too. biggrin




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“Do I dare Disturb the universe?”
― T.S. Eliot

“Only by acceptance of the past, can you alter it”
― T.S. Eliot
Reply #116 posted 09/26/17 4:24pm

PennyPurple

lol

morningsong said:

PennyPurple said:

Nah, the museum has soo much stuff as it is, this little stuff means nothing to the museum. Hell the diamond/engagement rings are probably pretty numerous too. biggrin




Image result for silent-movie-giggle gif

Reply #117 posted 09/26/17 6:15pm

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said: Give it to the museum and I believe this will be Mayte's third go around.

Nah, the museum has soo much stuff as it is, this little stuff means nothing to the museum. Hell the diamond/engagement rings are probably pretty numerous too. biggrin

lol right.

It would be cool to have a 'timeline' wall with all these notes and cards from 1977-2016

that would be pretty artistic, with a photo of Prince from each period moving along with the notes and an image of the people they were for at the time

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #118 posted 09/26/17 8:03pm

PennyPurple

OldFriends4Sale said:

PennyPurple said:

Nah, the museum has soo much stuff as it is, this little stuff means nothing to the museum. Hell the diamond/engagement rings are probably pretty numerous too. biggrin

lol right.

It would be cool to have a 'timeline' wall with all these notes and cards from 1977-2016

that would be pretty artistic, with a photo of Prince from each period moving along with the notes and an image of the people they were for at the time

I'm sure PP have a lot of notes and cards on hand. Maybe they could have a wall of the engagement and wedding rings and the girls pics. lol

Reply #119 posted 09/27/17 12:36am

Leopard52

Everyone has an opinion. It's not right or wrong just an opinion. Mine is that she's after money, period. If she loved him so and they were so special together she would keep them. If not they should be given to Paisley. But it's her decision to make because she ended up with them.
Reply #120 posted 09/27/17 4:10am

laurarichardson

Leopard52 said:

Everyone has an opinion. It's not right or wrong just an opinion. Mine is that she's after money, period. If she loved him so and they were so special together she would keep them. If not they should be given to Paisley. But it's her decision to make because she ended up with them.

Co-sign. She can do as she please but it is cupcaking to say she is not in this for the money.

Reply #121 posted 09/27/17 5:11am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

laurarichardson said:

Leopard52 said:

Everyone has an opinion. It's not right or wrong just an opinion. Mine is that she's after money, period. If she loved him so and they were so special together she would keep them. If not they should be given to Paisley. But it's her decision to make because she ended up with them.

Co-sign. She can do as she please but it is cupcaking to say she is not in this for the money.

Is cupcaking like 'sugarcoating'? I never heard cupcaking used before

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #122 posted 09/27/17 6:22am

laurarichardson

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

Co-sign. She can do as she please but it is cupcaking to say she is not in this for the money.

Is cupcaking like 'sugarcoating'? I never heard cupcaking used before

New term for sugarcoating.

Reply #123 posted 09/28/17 4:09pm

jtfolden

This back and forth about motives is silly, imo. I have no problem with Susannah (or Mayte or anyone else) making bank on anything she may have left from that time period. I hope she makes as much as she can. In the end, selling off some random items says nothing about her feelings for him. She's moved on, been married and had kids. She still has her memories. Should she keep a few cards from the florist or leg warmers that her kids will only throw away when she passes? ...and if she has a book to write, then I'm plenty interested in hearing what she has to say, more so than Mayte (who I still think is very sweet) or Sheila mE, mE, mE.

Reply #124 posted 09/28/17 10:48pm

CharismaDove

Susannah selling his old shit isn't really a big deal. Motive or not, it's impossible to tell from face value and it's kind of pointless to waste time debating if she MIGHT. Mayte's was far far worse. Some hate she received was unwarranted, but some of her behavior before P's death was questionable and she was waaaaay too eager to jump in the public image as Prince's wife after he died. But that's another topic

Either way P put Susannah back to real life in that later interview he did about the inspirations of his songs. Whatever she's selling is from the 80s and has barely if any value it's nothing special. Let her make a buck or 2 as long as she's not speaking bs or acting shady (which I think is a bigger problem amongst associates)

I guess you know me well, I dont like winter, but I seem to get a kick outta doing you cold
Reply #125 posted 10/01/17 11:33pm

jtfolden

CharismaDove said:

Susannah selling his old shit isn't really a big deal. Motive or not, it's impossible to tell from face value and it's kind of pointless to waste time debating if she MIGHT. Mayte's was far far worse. Some hate she received was unwarranted, but some of her behavior before P's death was questionable and she was waaaaay too eager to jump in the public image as Prince's wife after he died. But that's another topic

Either way P put Susannah back to real life in that later interview he did about the inspirations of his songs. Whatever she's selling is from the 80s and has barely if any value it's nothing special. Let her make a buck or 2 as long as she's not speaking bs or acting shady (which I think is a bigger problem amongst associates)

Personally, I thought Mayte was a lot more tasteful than Sheila E parading across TV screens as his former fiance immediately after his death like all the other girlfriends or wives didn't matter.

Reply #126 posted 10/02/17 3:41am

purplerabbithole

I think Sheila gets a bad rap. She simply did that stuff too early. But now I realize that someone had to talk publically about P when he died. I thought it was too soon at the time but now it feels like she was doing a long eulogy, keeping his legacy alive, saying nice things about him, keeping herself busy so she didn't get too bummed out about his death and besides her story about being his fiance was already in her book before he died and she never claimed he was a recent fiance. The press ran with the connection but she always stuck to his good traits, later did tribute concerts and gave most of the proceeds to charities that he favored (recently a free concert) . She has also cooled it a bit since then. So perhaps 'exploiting' his death to help her career was just her way of finding a silver lining and continuing a shared musical legacy. She probably was approached more than others (except the Revolution and they have since gotten their attention as well--they waited until they felt it was appropriate to do so). We all cope differently. But she has been nothing but kind where Prince was concered and I am sure she could have gotten even more attention by dropping a bit more dirt or shade into her accounts of him or taking more credit for his music.

Mayte has said some nice things about P--especially right after he died and during the memorial set up by herself and Manuela (who she has since depicted as a mistress), but she has also been less than kind, inconsistent, released a cautionary tale/sanctification of herself disguised as a love story on the anniversary of his death, and allowed a cover story in People magazine to highlight the salicious and odd bits of their story (out of context to some degree). When he was alive she publically made fun of his size, his love making ability (in Tommy Lee's reality show), his clothes (while selling them in a garage sale), called their wedding dress tacky (okay, she is right about that one..LOL), appeared on a reality show where she complained about how their kid dying meant she did not get Purple Rain money, and let her mom spit on the floor when talking about P on that same show.

jtfolden said:

CharismaDove said:

Susannah selling his old shit isn't really a big deal. Motive or not, it's impossible to tell from face value and it's kind of pointless to waste time debating if she MIGHT. Mayte's was far far worse. Some hate she received was unwarranted, but some of her behavior before P's death was questionable and she was waaaaay too eager to jump in the public image as Prince's wife after he died. But that's another topic

Either way P put Susannah back to real life in that later interview he did about the inspirations of his songs. Whatever she's selling is from the 80s and has barely if any value it's nothing special. Let her make a buck or 2 as long as she's not speaking bs or acting shady (which I think is a bigger problem amongst associates)

Personally, I thought Mayte was a lot more tasteful than Sheila E parading across TV screens as his former fiance immediately after his death like all the other girlfriends or wives didn't matter.

[Edited 10/2/17 3:52am]

Reply #127 posted 10/02/17 5:24am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

jtfolden said:

CharismaDove said:

Susannah selling his old shit isn't really a big deal. Motive or not, it's impossible to tell from face value and it's kind of pointless to waste time debating if she MIGHT. Mayte's was far far worse. Some hate she received was unwarranted, but some of her behavior before P's death was questionable and she was waaaaay too eager to jump in the public image as Prince's wife after he died. But that's another topic

Either way P put Susannah back to real life in that later interview he did about the inspirations of his songs. Whatever she's selling is from the 80s and has barely if any value it's nothing special. Let her make a buck or 2 as long as she's not speaking bs or acting shady (which I think is a bigger problem amongst associates)

Personally, I thought Mayte was a lot more tasteful than Sheila E parading across TV screens as his former fiance immediately after his death like all the other girlfriends or wives didn't matter.

But people(media) were contacting Sheila E she wasn't parading.

She being a friend of Prince was also a (fan) of Prince. and I talked to people in my life:co workers, strangers at a store, family about Prince the same way. I needed people to know my music hero was gone and what he meant to me.

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #128 posted 10/02/17 6:48am

purplerabbithole

Exactly. People from the generation that pretty much runs the media remembered her association with Prince. (Hell, I was a casual fan at the time and even I remember Sheila pounding away on the drums in one legged pants and the song Glamourous Life). They obviously contacted her(and probably also attempted to contact the Revolution for interviews) and she probably just kept herself busy continuing the legacy and working on her career. Even though the tone of the interviews was different after he died, she wasn't saying or doing much different in terms of her self promotion (which of course is essential for the duration of a career) and her promotion of P's talents and more positive traits. She didn't make shit up about him or sanctify him in an dishonest way. She just focused on what she cherished in the man and his music. If occassionally she had to remind relatively rude interviewers that she was probably a better drummer than he was (duh!), then so be it--she is a better drummer. Prince was a good drummer but it was like forth in line of his list of talents...(6th if you count singing and dancing.)

OldFriends4Sale said:

jtfolden said:

Personally, I thought Mayte was a lot more tasteful than Sheila E parading across TV screens as his former fiance immediately after his death like all the other girlfriends or wives didn't matter.

But people(media) were contacting Sheila E she wasn't parading.

She being a friend of Prince was also a (fan) of Prince. and I talked to people in my life:co workers, strangers at a store, family about Prince the same way. I needed people to know my music hero was gone and what he meant to me.

Reply #129 posted 10/02/17 9:52am

NotACleverName

I have noticed that as a general rule, you play devil's advocate to all associates' questionable behavior sans Mayte. I'm just curious as to why. I know it is all opinion, which you are entitled to, but why is she not given the same concessions you give others who have worked with, dated, loved, etc. Prince?

To add some balance:

Manuela was a mistress. No mystery or revelatory info there.

The People story may not have been seen by her prior to production. Perhaps Hatchett gave final approval. No one knows what transpired there. Regardless, I didn't feel it was salacious.

Where/how did she make fun of his size? His lovemaking skill? Please provide links.

How did she make fun of his clothing? Was it the reality program? The scene in which she brought out a shirt? I did not watch the show when it aired, however, I did watch a YT clip of this scene. It appeared to me that the ladies could not have gushed more about being in the presence of the man's shirt (wanting to try it on, smell it).

Fwiw, she wanted an alternate designer to make the wedding dress but she acquiesced to Prince (which I think she did often...not in a conciliatory manner but out of respect, love and faith that his decisions were generally the better).

Frankly, had Amiir survived, there would have been child support at the time of a divorce. How is that disrespectful? If the other ex wives were speaking about settlements, why does it seem odd that Mayte would mention her circumstance?

She cannot control her Mother's actions. I would imagine her Mother remembers how Mayte felt after the divorce and is still angry that someone's actions inflicted so much pain on her child. I know I become insane when my children feel hurt by another's words/actions. My instinct is to protect and defend them....with no regard to the offenders feelings.

What I gleaned from the book is that she loved the man with every fiber of her being, and she will never find that kind of love again. There were numerous instances in which she highlighted Prince's humanity, genius, capacity to love and protect in the book. Further, I would doubt there is one single marriage in the history of marriages that didn't include some terrible times. I applaud her for introducing us to a man rarely, if ever, seen by the public. I would imagine she realized there would be some blow back; however, I doubt she ever imagined it would result in death threats. That was simply beyond the scope of intolerance. Not one single former associate (to include collaborators, girlfriends, friends, etc.) deserves THAT type of treatment.

A final thought on balance
: let's not forget Sheila's continued promotion of product for sale that includes the addition of Prince's identity defining symbol placed with a butterfly.

purplerabbithole said:

I think Sheila gets a bad rap. She simply did that stuff too early. But now I realize that someone had to talk publically about P when he died. I thought it was too soon at the time but now it feels like she was doing a long eulogy, keeping his legacy alive, saying nice things about him, keeping herself busy so she didn't get too bummed out about his death and besides her story about being his fiance was already in her book before he died and she never claimed he was  a recent fiance. The press ran with the connection but she always stuck to his good traits, later did tribute concerts and gave most of the proceeds to charities that he favored (recently a free concert) . She has also cooled it a bit since then.  So perhaps 'exploiting' his death to help her career was just her way of finding a silver lining and continuing a shared musical legacy. She probably was approached more than others (except the Revolution and they have since gotten their attention as well--they waited until they felt it was appropriate to do so). We all cope differently. But she has been nothing but kind where Prince was concered and I am sure she could have gotten even more attention by dropping a bit more dirt or shade into her accounts of him or taking more credit for his music. Mayte has said some nice things about P--especially right after he died and during the memorial set up by herself and Manuela (who she has since depicted as a mistress), but she has also been less than kind, inconsistent, released  a cautionary tale/sanctification of herself disguised as a love story on the anniversary of his death, and allowed a cover story in People magazine to highlight the salicious and odd bits of their story (out of context to some degree). When he was alive she publically made fun of his size, his love making ability (in Tommy Lee's reality show), his clothes (while selling them in a garage sale), called their wedding dress tacky (okay, she is right about that one..LOL),  appeared on a reality show where she complained about how their kid dying meant she did not get Purple Rain money, and let her mom spit on the floor when talking about P on that same show.


jtfolden said:



CharismaDove said:


Susannah selling his old shit isn't really a big deal. Motive or not, it's impossible to tell from face value and it's kind of pointless to waste time debating if she MIGHT. Mayte's was far far worse. Some hate she received was unwarranted, but some of her behavior before P's death was questionable and she was waaaaay too eager to jump in the public image as Prince's wife after he died. But that's another topic

Either way P put Susannah back to real life in that later interview he did about the inspirations of his songs. Whatever she's selling is from the 80s and has barely if any value it's nothing special. Let her make a buck or 2 as long as she's not speaking bs or acting shady (which I think is a bigger problem amongst associates)



Personally, I thought Mayte was a lot more tasteful than Sheila E parading across TV screens as his former fiance immediately after his death like all the other girlfriends or wives didn't matter.


[Edited 10/2/17 3:52am]
"Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence......." ~ DESIDERATA ~ Max Ehrmann
Reply #130 posted 10/02/17 12:35pm

purplerabbithole

I think she is the most manipulative and passive/aggressive of the bunch because she doesn't seem willing to admit that she and her family used PRince while he was alive and that her mother was guiding her along the way." Woe is me, I had to do Oprah because he made me, meanwhile her mother was also in the episode. Pointing out P's flaws is fine but she has her own like most us but doesn't seem to want to acknowledge them. She is a loving martry. PLus, it is simple--she has done the most damage to his reputation of anyone out there since his death and she did it on the anniverary of his death. She is inconsistent as hell as well. She has told the story about how she met Prince in three different constrasting ways. Even something as simple as whether or not P liked to go to movies--in an interview prior to his death, she stated he wasn't a 'cinema' guy but in her book, she talks about him loving to take her to the movies. I dont entirely trust this woman...though I don't really care if she made fun of his clothes, talking about his sex not being as good as his performances on Tommy's show is BS> She probably loved him at one point or another but she also hangs on his coattails more than most of his associates who do more than just dance classes.

NotACleverName said:

I have noticed that as a general rule, you play devil's advocate to all associates' questionable behavior sans Mayte. I'm just curious as to why. I know it is all opinion, which you are entitled to, but why is she not given the same concessions you give others who have worked with, dated, loved, etc. Prince? To add some balance: Manuela was a mistress. No mystery or revelatory info there. The People story may not have been seen by her prior to production. Perhaps Hatchett gave final approval. No one knows what transpired there. Regardless, I didn't feel it was salacious. Where/how did she make fun of his size? His lovemaking skill? Please provide links. How did she make fun of his clothing? Was it the reality program? The scene in which she brought out a shirt? I did not watch the show when it aired, however, I did watch a YT clip of this scene. It appeared to me that the ladies could not have gushed more about being in the presence of the man's shirt (wanting to try it on, smell it). Fwiw, she wanted an alternate designer to make the wedding dress but she acquiesced to Prince (which I think she did often...not in a conciliatory manner but out of respect, love and faith that his decisions were generally the better). Frankly, had Amiir survived, there would have been child support at the time of a divorce. How is that disrespectful? If the other ex wives were speaking about settlements, why does it seem odd that Mayte would mention her circumstance? She cannot control her Mother's actions. I would imagine her Mother remembers how Mayte felt after the divorce and is still angry that someone's actions inflicted so much pain on her child. I know I become insane when my children feel hurt by another's words/actions. My instinct is to protect and defend them....with no regard to the offenders feelings. What I gleaned from the book is that she loved the man with every fiber of her being, and she will never find that kind of love again. There were numerous instances in which she highlighted Prince's humanity, genius, capacity to love and protect in the book. Further, I would doubt there is one single marriage in the history of marriages that didn't include some terrible times. I applaud her for introducing us to a man rarely, if ever, seen by the public. I would imagine she realized there would be some blow back; however, I doubt she ever imagined it would result in death threats. That was simply beyond the scope of intolerance. Not one single former associate (to include collaborators, girlfriends, friends, etc.) deserves THAT type of treatment. A final thought on balance: let's not forget Sheila's continued promotion of product for sale that includes the addition of Prince's identity defining symbol placed with a butterfly. purplerabbithole said:

I think Sheila gets a bad rap. She simply did that stuff too early. But now I realize that someone had to talk publically about P when he died. I thought it was too soon at the time but now it feels like she was doing a long eulogy, keeping his legacy alive, saying nice things about him, keeping herself busy so she didn't get too bummed out about his death and besides her story about being his fiance was already in her book before he died and she never claimed he was a recent fiance. The press ran with the connection but she always stuck to his good traits, later did tribute concerts and gave most of the proceeds to charities that he favored (recently a free concert) . She has also cooled it a bit since then. So perhaps 'exploiting' his death to help her career was just her way of finding a silver lining and continuing a shared musical legacy. She probably was approached more than others (except the Revolution and they have since gotten their attention as well--they waited until they felt it was appropriate to do so). We all cope differently. But she has been nothing but kind where Prince was concered and I am sure she could have gotten even more attention by dropping a bit more dirt or shade into her accounts of him or taking more credit for his music. Mayte has said some nice things about P--especially right after he died and during the memorial set up by herself and Manuela (who she has since depicted as a mistress), but she has also been less than kind, inconsistent, released a cautionary tale/sanctification of herself disguised as a love story on the anniversary of his death, and allowed a cover story in People magazine to highlight the salicious and odd bits of their story (out of context to some degree). When he was alive she publically made fun of his size, his love making ability (in Tommy Lee's reality show), his clothes (while selling them in a garage sale), called their wedding dress tacky (okay, she is right about that one..LOL), appeared on a reality show where she complained about how their kid dying meant she did not get Purple Rain money, and let her mom spit on the floor when talking about P on that same show.

[Edited 10/2/17 3:52am]

Reply #131 posted 10/02/17 2:32pm

simm0061

I want to know what she decided to hang on to. I'm guessing she kept the Grammy the members of the Revolution got for Kiss. I wonder what she did with the engagement ring?

The hand written note is the only thing that I felt sad about her selling. That seemed too personal.

Reply #132 posted 10/02/17 2:46pm

NotACleverName

Ok....well, like I mentioned, you're entitled.

You and I could go back and forth like this all day....for instance, she is probably not admitting to using Prince because she truly loved the guy (she could have made more $ as a belly dancer overseas vs the initial wkly salary of $300), Mayte admitted she was so deep into her grief over Amiir that she failed to realize how consumed Prince was by his resulting in him seeking comfort elsewhere and if the truth were told, Prince did the most damage to his reputation when the coroner announced his cod and the ensuing published stories about his addiction - https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&client=tablet-android-samsung&source=android-browser&q=prince+addicted+to+painkillers+2016 - than Mayte's book revealed (which was all speculation really) and the book hoopla has abated and interviews with her are less frequent yet, others are still touring, playing his music under the guise of keeping the legacy alive and honoring the man....but it won't get us anywhere. It's apparent, to me, by our individual thoughts and opinions we are never going to agree.

I find it fascinating that two people can read the same story and walk away with such opposing views. Different interpretations of the same information. Glass half full, half empty....

purplerabbithole said:

I think she is the most manipulative and passive/aggressive of the bunch because she doesn't seem willing to admit that she and her family used PRince while he was alive and that her mother was guiding her along the way." Woe is me, I had to do Oprah because he made me, meanwhile her mother was also in the episode.   Pointing out P's flaws is fine but she has her own like most us but doesn't seem to want to acknowledge them. She is a  loving martry.   PLus, it is simple--she has done the most damage to his reputation of anyone out there since his death and she did it on the anniverary of his death. She is inconsistent as hell as well. She has told the story about how she met Prince in three different constrasting ways. Even something as simple as whether or not P liked to go to movies--in an interview prior to his death, she stated he wasn't a 'cinema' guy but in her book, she talks about him loving to take her to the movies.  I dont entirely trust this woman...though I don't really care if she made fun of his clothes, talking about his sex not being as good as his performances on Tommy's show is BS> She probably loved him at one point or another but she also hangs on his coattails more than most of his associates who do more than


NotACleverName said:


I have noticed that as a general rule, you play devil's advocate to all associates' questionable behavior sans Mayte. I'm just curious as to why. I know it is all opinion, which you are entitled to, but why is she not given the same concessions you give others who have worked with, dated, loved, etc. Prince? To add some balance: Manuela was a mistress. No mystery or revelatory info there. The People story may not have been seen by her prior to production. Perhaps Hatchett gave final approval. No one knows what transpired there. Regardless, I didn't feel it was salacious. Where/how did she make fun of his size? His lovemaking skill? Please provide links. How did she make fun of his clothing? Was it the reality program? The scene in which she brought out a shirt? I did not watch the show when it aired, however, I did watch a YT clip of this scene. It appeared to me that the ladies could not have gushed more about being in the presence of the man's shirt (wanting to try it on, smell it). Fwiw, she wanted an alternate designer to make the wedding dress but she acquiesced to Prince (which I think she did often...not in a conciliatory manner but out of respect, love and faith that his decisions were generally the better). Frankly, had Amiir survived, there would have been child support at the time of a divorce. How is that disrespectful? If the other ex wives were speaking about settlements, why does it seem odd that Mayte would mention her circumstance? She cannot control her Mother's actions. I would imagine her Mother remembers how Mayte felt after the divorce and is still angry that someone's actions inflicted so much pain on her child. I know I become insane when my children feel hurt by another's words/actions. My instinct is to protect and defend them....with no regard to the offenders feelings. What I gleaned from the book is that she loved the man with every fiber of her being, and she will never find that kind of love again. There were numerous instances in which she highlighted Prince's humanity, genius, capacity to love and protect in the book. Further, I would doubt there is one single marriage in the history of marriages that didn't include some terrible times. I applaud her for introducing us to a man rarely, if ever, seen by the public. I would imagine she realized there would be some blow back; however, I doubt she ever imagined it would result in death threats. That was simply beyond the scope of intolerance. Not one single former associate (to include collaborators, girlfriends, friends, etc.) deserves THAT type of treatment. A final thought on balance: let's not forget Sheila's continued promotion of product for sale that includes the addition of Prince's identity defining symbol placed with a butterfly. purplerabbithole said:

I think Sheila gets a bad rap. She simply did that stuff too early. But now I realize that someone had to talk publically about P when he died. I thought it was too soon at the time but now it feels like she was doing a long eulogy, keeping his legacy alive, saying nice things about him, keeping herself busy so she didn't get too bummed out about his death and besides her story about being his fiance was already in her book before he died and she never claimed he was  a recent fiance. The press ran with the connection but she always stuck to his good traits, later did tribute concerts and gave most of the proceeds to charities that he favored (recently a free concert) . She has also cooled it a bit since then.  So perhaps 'exploiting' his death to help her career was just her way of finding a silver lining and continuing a shared musical legacy. She probably was approached more than others (except the Revolution and they have since gotten their attention as well--they waited until they felt it was appropriate to do so). We all cope differently. But she has been nothing but kind where Prince was concered and I am sure she could have gotten even more attention by dropping a bit more dirt or shade into her accounts of him or taking more credit for his music. Mayte has said some nice things about P--especially right after he died and during the memorial set up by herself and Manuela (who she has since depicted as a mistress), but she has also been less than kind, inconsistent, released  a cautionary tale/sanctification of herself disguised as a love story on the anniversary of his death, and allowed a cover story in People magazine to highlight the salicious and odd bits of their story (out of context to some degree). When he was alive she publically made fun of his size, his love making ability (in Tommy Lee's reality show), his clothes (while selling them in a garage sale), called their wedding dress tacky (okay, she is right about that one..LOL),  appeared on a reality show where she complained about how their kid dying meant she did not get Purple Rain money, and let her mom spit on the floor when talking about P on that same show.


[Edited 10/2/17 3:52am]


 

"Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence......." ~ DESIDERATA ~ Max Ehrmann
Reply #133 posted 10/02/17 3:58pm

purplerabbithole

Well, I tend to read between the lines with her (maybe a little too much admittedly) . She made many folks on different boards feel sorry for her about her belly dancing pay vs. P's pay. To me, that is passive/aggressive and deceptive of her? At best, she is trying to prove that she was not using him for his money? At worst she is trying to show everyone how much of a cheapsake he was and how great she was to work for so little. If her pay as a belly dancer was so good, why did they even approach P to work for him? Love? Her parents' motivation of having their underaged daughter work for a rock star for less pay was love? BTW, since when has belly dancing been that lucrative over the long run? . Yes, P was cheap but the benefits for working for P in the long run outweigh the benefits of being a belly dancer (a teenage belly dancer is novelty, a middle aged belly dancer is going to struggle financially-ask her mom who used to be one herself) . Without P, she wouldn't be better off financially as a 40 year old belly dancer in Cairo than she is now. IN fact, with her pay from 2 different reality shows and now a book, she has been able to continue living in the extremely expensive Los Angeles county. Prior to P's death, she probably took in some money for her dancing lessons, but I imagine that wasn't her bread and butter...not until his death that is (the classes are now more successful than ever now that Prince is dead.)


My uncle used to live in Los Angeles county (in fact, I was born there but my parents moved when I was 5 due to gang violence and poverty in the neighborhood we lived in and we weren't even in the worst neighborhood)...anyhow back to my uncle, he was a construction worker and maintaince man at a high rise downtown (2 jobs) in order to pay for a 1000 square foot house. Tiny tiny house and he needed two full time jobs to pay for it. Her house wasnt a mansion on that show but it was a decent house and she was able to pay with it with supposedly no help from P? How? because she got work partly because of her association with P (tommy's reality show, some choreography jobs, some acting, belly dancing, ex-housewives reality show pay). She was not so poor that she couldn't pay for a babysitter. Yet, she throws that crap out there on teh show as if she is poor. At best, her sense of perspective and entitlement is scewed; at worst, she was intentionally throwing shade at P for not providing for her basic needs..

Her talking about needing babysitter money in her reality show and then bringing up later her lack of disposable income like the other ex-wives. Really? Do you honestly believe that a reality show (she wouldn't have gotten if she hadn't been married to Prince in the first place) didn't pay her enough money to pay for a damn babysitter? Give me break.

I am not saying Mayte is evil or even lying about Prince. But her sense of entitlement and perspective seems off and at times, she seems self-serving. I feel for her loss and I think she was generous to admit that maybe P needed more help during that time but I do think sometimes women (and I am a woman) have trouble admitting their own flaws because of a fear of being criticized publically...well, who(including Prince) likes to be publically scrutinized.

NotACleverName said:

Ok....well, like I mentioned, you're entitled. You and I could go back and forth like this all day....for instance, she is probably not admitting to using Prince because she truly loved the guy (she could have made more $ as a belly dancer overseas vs the initial wkly salary of $300), Mayte admitted she was so deep into her grief over Amiir that she failed to realize how consumed Prince was by his resulting in him seeking comfort elsewhere and if the truth were told, Prince did the most damage to his reputation when the coroner announced his cod and the ensuing published stories about his addiction - https://www.google.com/se...llers+2016 - than Mayte's book revealed (which was all speculation really) and the book hoopla has abated and interviews with her are less frequent yet, others are still touring, playing his music under the guise of keeping the legacy alive and honoring the man....but it won't get us anywhere. It's apparent, to me, by our individual thoughts and opinions we are never going to agree. I find it fascinating that two people can read the same story and walk away with such opposing views. Different interpretations of the same information. Glass half full, half empty.... purplerabbithole said:

I think she is the most manipulative and passive/aggressive of the bunch because she doesn't seem willing to admit that she and her family used PRince while he was alive and that her mother was guiding her along the way." Woe is me, I had to do Oprah because he made me, meanwhile her mother was also in the episode. Pointing out P's flaws is fine but she has her own like most us but doesn't seem to want to acknowledge them. She is a loving martry. PLus, it is simple--she has done the most damage to his reputation of anyone out there since his death and she did it on the anniverary of his death. She is inconsistent as hell as well. She has told the story about how she met Prince in three different constrasting ways. Even something as simple as whether or not P liked to go to movies--in an interview prior to his death, she stated he wasn't a 'cinema' guy but in her book, she talks about him loving to take her to the movies. I dont entirely trust this woman...though I don't really care if she made fun of his clothes, talking about his sex not being as good as his performances on Tommy's show is BS> She probably loved him at one point or another but she also hangs on his coattails more than most of his associates who do more than

Reply #134 posted 10/02/17 4:07pm

PennyPurple

Well said.

NotACleverName said:

I have noticed that as a general rule, you play devil's advocate to all associates' questionable behavior sans Mayte. I'm just curious as to why. I know it is all opinion, which you are entitled to, but why is she not given the same concessions you give others who have worked with, dated, loved, etc. Prince? To add some balance: Manuela was a mistress. No mystery or revelatory info there. The People story may not have been seen by her prior to production. Perhaps Hatchett gave final approval. No one knows what transpired there. Regardless, I didn't feel it was salacious. Where/how did she make fun of his size? His lovemaking skill? Please provide links. How did she make fun of his clothing? Was it the reality program? The scene in which she brought out a shirt? I did not watch the show when it aired, however, I did watch a YT clip of this scene. It appeared to me that the ladies could not have gushed more about being in the presence of the man's shirt (wanting to try it on, smell it). Fwiw, she wanted an alternate designer to make the wedding dress but she acquiesced to Prince (which I think she did often...not in a conciliatory manner but out of respect, love and faith that his decisions were generally the better). Frankly, had Amiir survived, there would have been child support at the time of a divorce. How is that disrespectful? If the other ex wives were speaking about settlements, why does it seem odd that Mayte would mention her circumstance? She cannot control her Mother's actions. I would imagine her Mother remembers how Mayte felt after the divorce and is still angry that someone's actions inflicted so much pain on her child. I know I become insane when my children feel hurt by another's words/actions. My instinct is to protect and defend them....with no regard to the offenders feelings. What I gleaned from the book is that she loved the man with every fiber of her being, and she will never find that kind of love again. There were numerous instances in which she highlighted Prince's humanity, genius, capacity to love and protect in the book. Further, I would doubt there is one single marriage in the history of marriages that didn't include some terrible times. I applaud her for introducing us to a man rarely, if ever, seen by the public. I would imagine she realized there would be some blow back; however, I doubt she ever imagined it would result in death threats. That was simply beyond the scope of intolerance. Not one single former associate (to include collaborators, girlfriends, friends, etc.) deserves THAT type of treatment. A final thought on balance: let's not forget Sheila's continued promotion of product for sale that includes the addition of Prince's identity defining symbol placed with a butterfly. purplerabbithole said:

Reply #135 posted 10/02/17 4:13pm

purplerabbithole

well, Penny I noticed the complete opposite with you. Devil's advocate for her but no one else. Well, to each her own perspectives... cool By the way, my comment on the other thread was not referring to you. I want to drop it and you are entitled to your own perspective.

PennyPurple said:

Well said.

NotACleverName said:

I have noticed that as a general rule, you play devil's advocate to all associates' questionable behavior sans Mayte. I'm just curious as to why. I know it is all opinion, which you are entitled to, but why is she not given the same concessions you give others who have worked with, dated, loved, etc. Prince? To add some balance: Manuela was a mistress. No mystery or revelatory info there. The People story may not have been seen by her prior to production. Perhaps Hatchett gave final approval. No one knows what transpired there. Regardless, I didn't feel it was salacious. Where/how did she make fun of his size? His lovemaking skill? Please provide links. How did she make fun of his clothing? Was it the reality program? The scene in which she brought out a shirt? I did not watch the show when it aired, however, I did watch a YT clip of this scene. It appeared to me that the ladies could not have gushed more about being in the presence of the man's shirt (wanting to try it on, smell it). Fwiw, she wanted an alternate designer to make the wedding dress but she acquiesced to Prince (which I think she did often...not in a conciliatory manner but out of respect, love and faith that his decisions were generally the better). Frankly, had Amiir survived, there would have been child support at the time of a divorce. How is that disrespectful? If the other ex wives were speaking about settlements, why does it seem odd that Mayte would mention her circumstance? She cannot control her Mother's actions. I would imagine her Mother remembers how Mayte felt after the divorce and is still angry that someone's actions inflicted so much pain on her child. I know I become insane when my children feel hurt by another's words/actions. My instinct is to protect and defend them....with no regard to the offenders feelings. What I gleaned from the book is that she loved the man with every fiber of her being, and she will never find that kind of love again. There were numerous instances in which she highlighted Prince's humanity, genius, capacity to love and protect in the book. Further, I would doubt there is one single marriage in the history of marriages that didn't include some terrible times. I applaud her for introducing us to a man rarely, if ever, seen by the public. I would imagine she realized there would be some blow back; however, I doubt she ever imagined it would result in death threats. That was simply beyond the scope of intolerance. Not one single former associate (to include collaborators, girlfriends, friends, etc.) deserves THAT type of treatment. A final thought on balance: let's not forget Sheila's continued promotion of product for sale that includes the addition of Prince's identity defining symbol placed with a butterfly. purplerabbithole said:

[Edited 10/2/17 16:14pm]

[Edited 10/2/17 16:30pm]

Reply #136 posted 10/02/17 6:03pm

PennyPurple

lol

Reply #137 posted 10/03/17 12:51pm

simm0061

Strawberrylova123 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

nice.
So that note he sent her about the ballet was from 1996?

I think from the Gold experience era?? 1995

I don't think an actual date or year is mentioned anywhere is it? But I suspected the note might be referring to what later becacme "Curious Child" off Emancipation since the linear note state that it is "a simple ballet for an old friend", which would put it at '95, '96.

Reply #138 posted 10/12/17 11:24pm

Asenath0607

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

Anyone in the public eye has judgement passed on them. If she did not want judgement passed on her she could have remain anonymous but then she would not be able to prove the authenticity of the items and therefore not make money.

I hope she sells it all and actually goes out and finds a job but I am sure we have not heard the last of her and I will come back and remind you all when she starts selling more stuff or promoting her book.

ain't no body judging them but a few fan ladies in waiting...stiiiiill waiting. Prince ain't coming.

how is this being civil? Isn't this considered trolling?

Reply #139 posted 10/13/17 5:20am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

Asenath0607 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

ain't no body judging them but a few fan ladies in waiting...stiiiiill waiting. Prince ain't coming.

how is this being civil? Isn't this considered trolling?

Well good morning to you and Happy Friday the 13th!!

.

nope, we are debating, it's a general comment, grown folk stuff

why did you take it so personal?

but you sure did 'tell' on yourself wink

.

what's wrong with you

Why can't we just dance

why can't we just dance

I don't talk about you

I don't talk about you

giphy.gif

.

let's review:
1. You never posted in this thread(that no one posted in, in 10 days)

2. When you do you post something that has nothing to do with the topic

3. I must have posted something in some other thread that you disagreed with

and it got under your cyberskin

4. You stewed on it for a time

5. You searched out a thread I posted in and took it out here

.

200.gif#4-grid1

.

the world of fan ladies in waiting extends way beyond the org

like those anti-Mayte woman...

.

Thread debate was kinda over 10days ago and you just post to say that? lol

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #140 posted 10/28/17 6:59pm

Asenath0607

OldFriends4Sale said:

Asenath0607 said:

how is this being civil? Isn't this considered trolling?

Well good morning to you and Happy Friday the 13th!!

.

nope, we are debating, it's a general comment, grown folk stuff

why did you take it so personal?

but you sure did 'tell' on yourself wink

.

what's wrong with you

Why can't we just dance

why can't we just dance

I don't talk about you

I don't talk about you

giphy.gif

.

let's review:
1. You never posted in this thread(that no one posted in, in 10 days)

2. When you do you post something that has nothing to do with the topic

3. I must have posted something in some other thread that you disagreed with

and it got under your cyberskin

4. You stewed on it for a time

5. You searched out a thread I posted in and took it out here

.

200.gif#4-grid1

.

the world of fan ladies in waiting extends way beyond the org

like those anti-Mayte woman...

.

Thread debate was kinda over 10days ago and you just post to say that? lol

SNIP - OF4$

URL: http://prince.org/msg/5/447322/Auctioneer-posts-interviews-with-Susannah-Eric-Leeds

Date printed: Sat 18th Nov 2017 2:02am PST