And up to that point as I said they had an ongoing friendship. And then sometime later Prince and her talked.

You seem really emotionally invested in not liking her.

Is it about 'loyalty'?

laurarichardson said:

And he stopped communicating with her as their talks were over this defunkt group he wanted to die. She is only telling us her side of those coversations. I am sure he had some reason to stop speaking to her. End of the line I do not believe a word this women has to say. I hope she sells everything and disappears into the night but I know she will be back with more stuff and a book.

She appears to have no job and if this is the case and she does come back with another "I am Prince's old girlfriend from 30 years ago and I need money" schemes do not be surprised.

OldFriends4Sale said:

1. It is clear, that he was communicating with her. She wasn't in his camp anymore.

Susannah: My last contact with him was about the name of our band. He stopped talking to me. Completely. We’ve always talked throughout the years. But when it came to that it was the reason he’ll never talk to me again?

Susannah: We all tried to tell them that. The last time we spoke he heard my kids in the background, and my youngest one was little at the time, he said, “Is this a bad time?” I said, “No. I’m about to put my kids to sleep.” He had never actually heard that part of my world. It wasn’t a bad time. I said, “They are my concern but you have my time right now. “ He didn’t like that. He told Paul I was belligerent and that was enough for him. That’s 25 years of a friendship of sorts. I wouldn’t call it a real friendship. Prince said, “I’m done. I’m not going to speak to her. I’m only going to speak with you Paul,” And he had never spoken to Paul in any of the years. Ever.

2. Yes, and Wendy said he did contact her to get Susannah's number

3. I'm not talking about Vanity and Prince not communicating. I know they did. I'm talking about ridding herself of the Vanity personna and those things involved with that time period.

Life's a bitch and then you die

that's why we get high

Cause you never know when you're gonna go

4. She and Eric Leeds and others were approached about auctioning some things off. That her kids won't know or have a special significance to things and if she did die tomorrow may just go in the trash... that is life, and reasonable

As people move through various stages of grief via death parting with things that may be intimately valuable is a common response. Releasing it, releasing energy, closing chapters etc

Is she touring with FDeluxe right now? When was the last time they performed? Is Susan working in the entertainment industry or publically complaining about her ex-husband while selling t-shirts and mugs connected to her time with Prince.

The fact that she needs money is even mentioned in the interview with Jon Bream from the Star Tribune.

Eric plays at a nightclub in Minneapolis and actually has a few songs on Tidal. He has said that he is happy playing his gig at the nightclub meaning he has a job.

OldFriends4Sale said:

yeah she took ballet, so I don't understand peoples issue with her teaching a move. It was just one turn/twirl move.

I don't know how she is lazy, from the time the Family band reconnected she's been working and touring.

and before that she's sung/written with/for Madonna Eric Clapton Seal Roger Waters Mike Oldfield Stevie Wonder, Erykah Badu, D'Angelo, Bilal, Oliver Leiber, Chaka Khan...

and others including Doyle Bramhall II who she ended up marrying. Who she was married to for about 10yrs with 2 kids. And of course with W&L CoEd(Sheila E) etc

I don't see how that constitutes 'lazy' . Maybe an issue with her being a woman, because no one is ripping Eric Leeds.

And it was Prince who wrote the note to her in 1995 about the Glam Slam 'ballet'

the consignor affirms that Prince likewise wrote this note to Susannah to get her opinion on his ballet because of their shared love of dance. The couple's ballet connection dates to Susannah teaching Prince his first pirouette as they were walking down Melrose Avenue while recording the soundtrack to Purple Rain.

Vashtix said:

Denise did not sell anything for profits and she could have. She did not get rid of certain keepsakes per info shared here. Denise has nothing to do with how others handle their business. She clearly was not pimping Prince or felt letters etc between them needed to be given to the highest bidder. Please do not piss on her grave. It was not who she was. She loved Prince and honored him til the day she died. If any of his friends and associates decide to sell their stuff that is up to them and there is no need to validate or orove or disprove. People are known by their actions not their words. Watch and learn. Listen and be deceived.

Vashtix

Vashtix

Vashtix

We know from previous threads that you have a 'romantic' connection with Denise & Prince.

Pimping Prince? How can anyone 'pimp' Prince? He is dead.
Who owns any of the things Denise Matthews left behind?

Will they be respected and cared for? or will they be lost forever in the passage of time?

Prince and Denise Matthews were no longer lovers.

Prince was married twice and Denise was married twice.

That would constitute adultery, even if there was just

an emotional-romantic bond.

Denise wouldn't be down with that.

.

And the pissing on the grave thing. really?
Please... stop.

Watch and learn?

Listen and be deceived?

huh?
What is this?

yep

Life happens

laurarichardson said:

Is she touring with FDeluxe right now? When was the last time they performed? Is Susan working in the entertainment industry or publically complaining about her ex-husband while selling t-shirts and mugs connected to her time with Prince.

The fact that she needs money is even mentioned in the interview with Jon Bream from the Star Tribune.

Eric plays at a nightclub in Minneapolis and actually has a few songs on Tidal. He has said that he is happy playing his gig at the nightclub meaning he has a job.

OldFriends4Sale said:

yeah she took ballet, so I don't understand peoples issue with her teaching a move. It was just one turn/twirl move.

I don't know how she is lazy, from the time the Family band reconnected she's been working and touring.

and before that she's sung/written with/for Madonna Eric Clapton Seal Roger Waters Mike Oldfield Stevie Wonder, Erykah Badu, D'Angelo, Bilal, Oliver Leiber, Chaka Khan...

and others including Doyle Bramhall II who she ended up marrying. Who she was married to for about 10yrs with 2 kids. And of course with W&L CoEd(Sheila E) etc

I don't see how that constitutes 'lazy' . Maybe an issue with her being a woman, because no one is ripping Eric Leeds.

And it was Prince who wrote the note to her in 1995 about the Glam Slam 'ballet'

the consignor affirms that Prince likewise wrote this note to Susannah to get her opinion on his ballet because of their shared love of dance. The couple's ballet connection dates to Susannah teaching Prince his first pirouette as they were walking down Melrose Avenue while recording the soundtrack to Purple Rain.

I am glad she and he talked again after that argument. I don't know what I think about airing grievances in public like that. He did it back at her a bit in that rambling 2015 interview and people on here and elsewhere ripped hiim a new one for that, but I am glad he pulled the interview and later contacted her again before he died. . What a shame it would have been if he had died with that being their last conversation.

OldFriends4Sale said:

And up to that point as I said they had an ongoing friendship. And then sometime later Prince and her talked.

You seem really emotionally invested in not liking her.

Is it about 'loyalty'?

laurarichardson said:

And he stopped communicating with her as their talks were over this defunkt group he wanted to die. She is only telling us her side of those coversations. I am sure he had some reason to stop speaking to her. End of the line I do not believe a word this women has to say. I hope she sells everything and disappears into the night but I know she will be back with more stuff and a book.

She appears to have no job and if this is the case and she does come back with another "I am Prince's old girlfriend from 30 years ago and I need money" schemes do not be surprised.

I agree, a long time friendship,

It seems it was intertwined in the discussion of FDeluxe

so maybe that is why is came that way

that is 25+ yrs of knowing someone

same with Sheila E

I'll tell U what, I know better, i know all of this, but Prince's passing and time passing not saying things that may need to be said ie Jill Jones and memoirs, items and wills
This is all a 2nd or 3rd wake up call to 'keep my house in order'

purplerabbithole said:

I am glad she and he talked again after that argument. I don't know what I think about airing grievances in public like that. He did it back at her a bit in that rambling 2015 interview and people on here and elsewhere ripped hiim a new one for that, but I am glad he pulled the interview and later contacted her again before he died. . What a shame it would have been if he had died with that being their last conversation.

OldFriends4Sale said:

And up to that point as I said they had an ongoing friendship. And then sometime later Prince and her talked.

You seem really emotionally invested in not liking her.

Is it about 'loyalty'?

Once again we have no means of knowing what the last conversation he had with her was about or if it even took place it is Susannah's story. I am glad Ebony published that interview again after he died and I had ooproblem with it it. He was being real " he wrote the Beautiful Ones about Vanity and he said again after Vanity dies so what was so horrible about his saying it in that interview. The song was not about her and she ran with that story for years.

purplerabbithole said:

I am glad she and he talked again after that argument. I don't know what I think about airing grievances in public like that. He did it back at her a bit in that rambling 2015 interview and people on here and elsewhere ripped hiim a new one for that, but I am glad he pulled the interview and later contacted her again before he died. . What a shame it would have been if he had died with that being their last conversation.

OldFriends4Sale said:

And up to that point as I said they had an ongoing friendship. And then sometime later Prince and her talked.

You seem really emotionally invested in not liking her.

Is it about 'loyalty'?

Keep ignoring those question marks you are just proving me right. She is a lazy old girlfriend that needs to get a job and stop pimping Prince to make a living. End of story. Oh and look up the work pimp.

OldFriends4Sale said:

yep

Life happens

laurarichardson said:

Is she touring with FDeluxe right now? When was the last time they performed? Is Susan working in the entertainment industry or publically complaining about her ex-husband while selling t-shirts and mugs connected to her time with Prince.

The fact that she needs money is even mentioned in the interview with Jon Bream from the Star Tribune.

Eric plays at a nightclub in Minneapolis and actually has a few songs on Tidal. He has said that he is happy playing his gig at the nightclub meaning he has a job.

why do you hate her so much that you want to come between Prince & Susannah's friendship?

I'm glad he reconnected with as many people as he did.

What does any of this have to do with their friendship, not yours. You were not friends with Prince.

They were friends, get over it...

Hell I had a split with my uncle for over 5 yrs before we spoke again and reconnected

.

AOL LIVE / JULY 22, 1997

Question: What was your inspiration for the song Forever In My Life?
TheArtst: Susannah
TheArtst: she knows

laurarichardson said:

Once again we have no means of knowing what the last conversation he had with her was about or if it even took place it is Susannah's story. I am glad Ebony published that interview again after he died and I had ooproblem with it it. He was being real " he wrote the Beautiful Ones about Vanity and he said again after Vanity dies so what was so horrible about his saying it in that interview. The song was not about her and she ran with that story for years.

purplerabbithole said:

I am glad she and he talked again after that argument. I don't know what I think about airing grievances in public like that. He did it back at her a bit in that rambling 2015 interview and people on here and elsewhere ripped hiim a new one for that, but I am glad he pulled the interview and later contacted her again before he died. . What a shame it would have been if he had died with that being their last conversation.

wow 'such nastiness' Laurarichardson my my my

laurarichardson said:

Keep ignoring those question marks you are just proving me right. She is a lazy old girlfriend that needs to get a job and stop pimping Prince to make a living. End of story. Oh and look up the work pimp.

OldFriends4Sale said:

yep

Life happens

Real talk with no cupcaking.

OldFriends4Sale said:

wow 'such nastiness' Laurarichardson my my my

laurarichardson said:

Keep ignoring those question marks you are just proving me right. She is a lazy old girlfriend that needs to get a job and stop pimping Prince to make a living. End of story. Oh and look up the work pimp.

ok

laurarichardson said:

Real talk with no cupcaking.

OldFriends4Sale said:

wow 'such nastiness' Laurarichardson my my my

Wendy was asked when was the last time she talked to P, and she said that P was trying to get Susannah's number. She said it was a casual uneventual conversation she (meaning Wendy) had with P.

Even if the last conversation with Susannah was an argument, his contacting her again is better than his shunning a friend from his life completely.

His clearing the air about who wrote the song was not a bad thing necessarily (and I understand his need to retake his own narrative but he also seemed a bit too angry about it, the Vault, Susan etc in an unhealthy way.) . He seemed paranoid and trying too hard to convince himself that he was happy being alone. I felt bad for him and all of his old friends/associates. THere seemed to be pain and distrust coming from him. And his thoughts (if they were reported correctly) were a mess of loose associations. Some of his talk should have been reserved for a psychologist or personal conversations with friends,not some magazine that would exploit his issues and relationships for sales or online hits. Prince needed to open up more but not to reporters but privately to friends. I am going to assume that old girlfriends are a bit closer to friends than reporters ever were (even if they occassionally claim songs were written about them. BTW what does a songbeing based off you do for your actual career..Not a whole lot if you can't sell a book about it due to cease and desists...

.

I find that interview of his very disconcerting for many reasons. He kept things from his old friends to the very end, I am assuming, but had he lived and continuing reaching out to some of his old friends , he might have been able to get some help. Unfortunately, we will never know.

.

laurarichardson said:

Once again we have no means of knowing what the last conversation he had with her was about or if it even took place it is Susannah's story. I am glad Ebony published that interview again after he died and I had ooproblem with it it. He was being real " he wrote the Beautiful Ones about Vanity and he said again after Vanity dies so what was so horrible about his saying it in that interview. The song was not about her and she ran with that story for years.

purplerabbithole said:

I am glad she and he talked again after that argument. I don't know what I think about airing grievances in public like that. He did it back at her a bit in that rambling 2015 interview and people on here and elsewhere ripped hiim a new one for that, but I am glad he pulled the interview and later contacted her again before he died. . What a shame it would have been if he had died with that being their last conversation.

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OldFriends4Sale said:

why do you hate her so much that you want to come between Prince & Susannah's friendship?

I think Laura simply hates the Melovins because they are white. Just what I get from reading all her rants.

laurarichardson said:

She is just trying to make herself look good. Who the hell keeps some old shredded leg warmers from 30 years ago? Or proposal notes from your ex-boyfriend when you long since remarried? Must have made for an interesting conversation with her ex. People were auctioning off Prince's things before he passed away and he wound buy the stuff or send a cease and desist letter. Remember he was the one that said people stole stuff all the time. As far as ballet is concerned we have already heard that he took Balket lessons with some art group when he was a teen so Susannah did not have to teach him ballet. Just more B.S from this lazy ass women. It is Prince's fault for having such bad taste. purplerabbithole said:

a.) I can live with her getting money off of Prince as long as she feels obligated to say something nice or find nice things to sell. She could sell things in a tacky tasteless way like Mayte. Remember her describing her wedding dress as tacky on tv when he was still alive.

b.) her justifications at least prove that she is thinking about not wanting to come off exploitative. And she has a valid point about how keeping that stuff to herself would likely mean her kids wouldn't know how to honor the possessions. these justifications prove that she at least had to feel alright with it in her own mind before proceeding. She has his leg warmers because he gave them to her when it was super cold outside. She explained that they were shredded from his heels. The stories about their love of ballet, how much they loved a second-hand store wand in glitter in it, his proposal (the handwriting is the florist's) , their shared interest in painting--those are lovely things to say. She doesn't even brag about herself except to imply that he liked her ballet dancing (which is why he sent her that letter in 1996 asking her to listen to his ballet) and that she was teaching him how to dance ballet..(come on, Prince not being a nature ballet dancer isn't exactly an insult.)

As for not selling it earlier, collectors wouldn't have cared earlier. They wouldn't have taken that stuff as seriously as she had. they might have been careless with it. Those willing to shell out money for that stuff now will take care of it better. Do you honestly think she decided in a calculated way to keep that stuff related to him for all those years just in case he happens to die a sad death so she can sell it more than 1 and a half years after his death.

wow you're bitter. It's as if you had a personal relaitonship with ANY of these people. But in fact did not.

Vashtix said:

purplefam99 said:

Vashtix said:

Denise did not sell anything for profits and she could have. She did not get rid of certain keepsakes per info shared here. Denise has nothing to do with how others handle their business. She clearly was not pimping Prince or felt letters etc between them needed to be given to the highest bidder. Please do not piss on her grave. It was not who she was. She loved Prince and honored him til the day she died. If any of his friends and associates decide to sell their stuff that is up to them and there is no need to validate or orove or disprove. People are known by their actions not their words. Watch and learn. Listen and be deceived.

I agree that your last sentence calling to watch the actions of people first is most important in deciphering intentions. How one shows love is more important. I think Denise's actions spoke. The other lady can do as she pleases, those actions will speak.

(and I understand his need to retake his own narrative but he also seemed a bit too angry about it, the Vault, Susan etc in an unhealthy way.)

He was angry because he was tired of their lies and crap which are still going on. If you cannot let something go after a person dies what does that say about you. Susannah could not part with this items without including a narrative about her self.

She is the one that will not let it all go. I hope she is done with carrying on about someone she dates 30 years ago but I suspect she will be back with a book or more trinkets again and again until she has milked her association with him for all that she can .

I feel sorry for Susannah not Prince at least he knew how to move on.

purplerabbithole said:

Wendy was asked when was the last time she talked to P, and she said that P was trying to get Susannah's number. She said it was a casual uneventual conversation she (meaning Wendy) had with P.

Even if the last conversation with Susannah was an argument, his contacting her again is better than his shunning a friend from his life completely.

His clearing the air about who wrote the song was not a bad thing necessarily (and I understand his need to retake his own narrative but he also seemed a bit too angry about it, the Vault, Susan etc in an unhealthy way.) . He seemed paranoid and trying too hard to convince himself that he was happy being alone. I felt bad for him and all of his old friends/associates. THere seemed to be pain and distrust coming from him. And his thoughts (if they were reported correctly) were a mess of loose associations. Some of his talk should have been reserved for a psychologist or personal conversations with friends,not some magazine that would exploit his issues and relationships for sales or online hits. Prince needed to open up more but not to reporters but privately to friends. I am going to assume that old girlfriends are a bit closer to friends than reporters ever were (even if they occassionally claim songs were written about them. BTW what does a songbeing based off you do for your actual career..Not a whole lot if you can't sell a book about it due to cease and desists...

.

I find that interview of his very disconcerting for many reasons. He kept things from his old friends to the very end, I am assuming, but had he lived and continuing reaching out to some of his old friends , he might have been able to get some help. Unfortunately, we will never know.

.

laurarichardson said:

Once again we have no means of knowing what the last conversation he had with her was about or if it even took place it is Susannah's story. I am glad Ebony published that interview again after he died and I had ooproblem with it it. He was being real " he wrote the Beautiful Ones about Vanity and he said again after Vanity dies so what was so horrible about his saying it in that interview. The song was not about her and she ran with that story for years.

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jaawwnn said:

Good grief its not a competition

No one said it was. I used Vanity as an example of a ladyfriend who did not exploit her time with Prince for the rest of her days. I suspect she was in a much more dire financial stituation then Susannah is in. Did I say anything about the comparision between the two that was incorrect?

Actions speak louder then words. Susannah tells on herself with her behavior and her words. You want to share his stuff with his fans then donate this crap to a museum and some of the stuff on the auction is literally crap.

How come she did not try to sell this stuff when he was around? As far as this great love affair why was he seeing Devin, Sheila, Jill and who know who else. Then sent her butt back to Minni while making Under The Cherry Moon.

She is full of bull. If you need money she say you need money.

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jaawwnn said:

Good grief its not a competition

lol this is what some of these 'fans' are doing to the women WHO KNEW PRINCE

picking sides on who they live vicariously through

Prince is dead and gone, and not concerned about this down here

I hope these people love their own family friends just as hard

The person who asked SUSANNAH and ERIC LEEDS to auction some things, approached them.

And then the person asked for information on the background of these things, so people understand the significance. ALL Auctions go this way.

OldFriends4Sale said:

The person who asked SUSANNAH and ERIC LEEDS to auction some things, approached them.

And then the person asked for information on the background of these things, so people understand the significance. ALL Auctions go this way.

With audio instead of written narrative. I love Stacia and the tamborine. "He left it on a desk so I assumed he wanted me to have it" Stealing ass !!!

Next a housekeeper will be selling his underware. " I thought he wanted me to have the drawes"

it is not a competition. it is an obersvation. but it seems his little brother is getting a beating for his ACTION of

putting a group together, so it seems that ACTIONS are speaking louder than words. why not here too.

this thread

Don't get on the scale

if you ain't got the weight

It's more harder 2 love

than it is 2 hate

It's more harder 2 love

than it is 2 hate

Escape

Free your mind from this rat race

purplerabbithole said:

smart classy woman. I don't know all her motivations or feelings where P is concerned but she seems very sensible here. She understands that if you are going to sell stuff related to him, you need to do so with some respect for the man who owned the stuff in the first place. I loved the pireoutte (sic) story. I do think she has love in her heart for him even if it is more complicated than she probably reveals here.

I wasn't thrilled about these auctioned things at first. But she made a valid point about legacy. She knows that if she just wills it to her kids, they won't get the significance as much as a collector would. they wouldn't care for the items with the same delicacy and honor (and really why burden them with that responsibility) . She auctioned things with only positivity attached to them and waited a year and a half after his death to start the process of letting items go. And now we have loving stories to accompany it. She might need a little money but people have more than one motivation for their actions and I am okay with that.

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So know the Melvoins want to take credit for Prince's dancing?!

paulludvig said:

purplerabbithole said:

smart classy woman. I don't know all her motivations or feelings where P is concerned but she seems very sensible here. She understands that if you are going to sell stuff related to him, you need to do so with some respect for the man who owned the stuff in the first place. I loved the pireoutte (sic) story. I do think she has love in her heart for him even if it is more complicated than she probably reveals here.

I wasn't thrilled about these auctioned things at first. But she made a valid point about legacy. She knows that if she just wills it to her kids, they won't get the significance as much as a collector would. they wouldn't care for the items with the same delicacy and honor (and really why burden them with that responsibility) . She auctioned things with only positivity attached to them and waited a year and a half after his death to start the process of letting items go. And now we have loving stories to accompany it. She might need a little money but people have more than one motivation for their actions and I am okay with that.

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So know the Melvoins want to take credit for Prince's dancing?!

U mean 1 ballet twirl?

What do you think of New Power Soul band?

OldFriends4Sale said:

paulludvig said:

So know the Melvoins want to take credit for Prince's dancing?!

U mean 1 ballet twirl?

What do you think of New Power Soul band?

Huh?

paulludvig said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

U mean 1 ballet twirl?

What do you think of New Power Soul band?

Huh?

Susannah was talking about a Ballet dance spin.

They fucked and drew pictures together,..

Paulludvig, all the topics happening and all U C is 'Melvoin' lol

Dude, Omar and Marva King(NPG singer) created a band called New Power Soul

there is a sticky on it

Check THAT out