purplerabbithole said:

I don't see Prince as being with someone his own age. I see him as being with someone perhaps in her early or mid-40s at that time (when he was in his 50s). Someone else mentioned a Michelle Obama type. I don't see that either. There would be no sexual chemistry.

I see him as having a relationship that would have been beautiful with someone completely unlike anyone else he had ever met and completely unlike anyone most of US have - or will ever - meet.

This is obviously not your ordinary run-of-the-mill person OR a celebrity, and her spirituality would ALSO NOT be ordinary modern stuff. She would have real power that could not only match his, but he would be the very best him he could be with her. She would be able to teach him things outside of the musical spectrum that he would love and drink in. She would fill his soul.

But as someone else pointed out, he would have to be work on himself too, and he was.

That kind of an experienced spiritual still somewhat young woman I believe is what he craved.

She would have to be sweet and innocent and naturally sensual. HE could teach and nurture THOSE things in her.

[Edited 9/22/17 16:26pm]

anangellooksdown said:

purplerabbithole said:

I was wondering that myself.

I don't see Prince as being with someone his own age. I see him as being with someone perhaps in her early or mid-40s at that time (when he was in his 50s). Someone else mentioned a Michelle Obama type. I don't see that either. There would be no sexual chemistry. I see him as having a relationship that would have been beautiful with someone completely unlike anyone else he had ever met and completely unlike anyone most of US have - or will ever - meet. This is obviously not your ordinary run-of-the-mill person, and her spirituality would NOT be ordinary modern stuff. She would have real power that could not only match his, but he would be the very best him he could he with her. She would be able to teach him things outside of the musical spectrum that he would love and drink in. She would fill his soul. But as someone else pointed out, he would have to be doing his own work too, and he was. That kind of an experienced spiritual still somewhat young woman I believe is what he really craved. She would have to be sweet and innocent and naturally sensual. HE could teach and nurture THOSE things in her.

I agree.I actually hoped that he and Tamron had more than a friendly relationship.I noticed how he was tweeting about her quite a lot in 2015.I remember he posted a pic of her wearing a white coat and tweeted a cute caption.He also posted a few articles about her and of course used her pic for the single.He obviously was attracted to her and was even seen out with her a few times so perhaps more was going on.Regardless,she was at least a bit closer to his age.It's good he was maintaining friendships with older women.Also we now know he was keeping in close contact with Denise through the years,until the end so it seems he had that stability at least in the form of friendship.Of course he also had a lot of young friends but that seemed to be more him offering his knowledge and experience through mentoring in a lot of cases.

purplerabbithole said:

About the weight decline, Prince had a history of periods in which he got super thin and then recovered. Yes, he was alarmingly thin at the end of the his life, but he was also alarmingly thin in 1993 and in 2009. I know Elisa Fiorillo tweeted him about eating more. So I think there was concern but not a lot true understanding of the extent of the problem.

Also, maybe they thought that it might be a waste of time to travel all the way to Minnesota to attend a party at which time Prince and his inner circle would just give them the run-around or put on airs that everything was cool. . If Prince had called associates and told them that he wasn't feeling okay and was really struggling, I am sure at least a few of the associates he called would have made the trip because for him to admit that he had a problem, it must have meant the problem had really gotten bad. But he might have just succeeded too well at deluding people that he was on his way to recovery.

pinkcashmere23 said:

That's true and he was out and about before the party at PP and afterward so they may have assumed he was doing better also.I was more referring to his physical condition.He just didn't look well.It looks like they would have noticed that and been more worried.I was also referring to his close associates at the time btw.

[Edited 9/15/17 3:36am]

I wasn't just referring to the weight loss,he looked ill.Also,I believe it was reported that when he was admitted to the hospital in Moline,he was dehydrated and had something wrong with his blood,IIRC.Like I said earlier,he appeared to be doing better the day of the party and it was reported he saw a show with friends at the Dakota a few days before his passing so people probably thought things were better.

pinkcashmere23 said:

Tamron's a nice lady,but she doesn't come CLOSE to what I'm describing. These are still all regular people.
This woman wouldn't be famous or in the media. She'd want nothing to do with that and would be a lot more under the radar. She'd be doing her thing QUIETly. Oh, yes...Prince would respect the heck out of her.

pinkcashmere23 said:

purplerabbithole said:

About the weight decline, Prince had a history of periods in which he got super thin and then recovered. Yes, he was alarmingly thin at the end of the his life, but he was also alarmingly thin in 1993 and in 2009. I know Elisa Fiorillo tweeted him about eating more. So I think there was concern but not a lot true understanding of the extent of the problem.

Also, maybe they thought that it might be a waste of time to travel all the way to Minnesota to attend a party at which time Prince and his inner circle would just give them the run-around or put on airs that everything was cool. . If Prince had called associates and told them that he wasn't feeling okay and was really struggling, I am sure at least a few of the associates he called would have made the trip because for him to admit that he had a problem, it must have meant the problem had really gotten bad. But he might have just succeeded too well at deluding people that he was on his way to recovery.

[Edited 9/15/17 3:36am]

I wasn't just referring to the weight loss,he looked ill.Also,I believe it was reported that when he was admitted to the hospital in Moline,he was dehydrated and had something wrong with his blood,IIRC.Like I said earlier,he appeared to be doing better the day of the party and it was reported he saw a show with friends at the Dakota a few days before his passing so people probably thought things were better.

Yes, people have forgotten the stories about him being anemic.

anangellooksdown said:

++what is your obsession with this mythical woman that would've saved Prince? She never materialized and Prince has been dead for more than a year. At least this light weight Andy woman exists in the real world. Going on and on about a woman that isn't really.

anangellooksdown said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

I agree.I actually hoped that he and Tamron had more than a friendly relationship.I noticed how he was tweeting about her quite a lot in 2015.I remember he posted a pic of her wearing a white coat and tweeted a cute caption.He also posted a few articles about her and of course used her pic for the single.He obviously was attracted to her and was even seen out with her a few times so perhaps more was going on.Regardless,she was at least a bit closer to his age.It's good he was maintaining friendships with older women.Also we now know he was keeping in close contact with Denise through the years,until the end so it seems he had that stability at least in the form of friendship.Of course he also had a lot of young friends but that seemed to be more him offering his knowledge and experience through mentoring in a lot of cases.

Tamron's a nice lady,but she doesn't come CLOSE to what I'm describing. These are still all regular people. This woman wouldn't be famous or in the media. She'd want nothing to do with that and would be a lot more under the radar. She'd be doing her thing QUIETly. Oh, yes...Prince would respect the heck out of her.

I understand.Well Denise had left the entertainment world and focused on her relationship with God and leading others to Him,something I find very admirable.It would have been nice if a woman like her had come into his life,or perhaps even Denise herself,though it seems they may have been content with the way things were between them,though we don't know what was happening behind the scenes.

laurarichardson said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

I wasn't just referring to the weight loss,he looked ill.Also,I believe it was reported that when he was admitted to the hospital in Moline,he was dehydrated and had something wrong with his blood,IIRC.Like I said earlier,he appeared to be doing better the day of the party and it was reported he saw a show with friends at the Dakota a few days before his passing so people probably thought things were better.

Yes, people have forgotten the stories about him being anemic.

Right!

purplerabbithole said:

Are we never to believe Prince himself when he said or did something publically? Come on, no one is saying that every protege he flirted with on stage or performed duets with was his girlfriend. I am not convinced that Tamar was his girlfriend or that most of his later day proteges/mentorees/female musician friends were girlfriends (maybe flirting but not much else). And most of them (including ANdy) often publically played down their relationships as friendships with P.. . I do think many of them were just friends. But do any of these other ladies have the kind of evidence or musical lyrics or sightings or associate confirmations or facebook/twitter interactions as frequently as those pointing to ANdy Allo?....NOpe, not even Bria did..

Vashtix said:

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He did take Bria with him to several events in 2009 while they were in Europe and I seem to remember him mentioning 'Bolivian paper doll' in I think All This Love on Elixer.He also took her to Europe with him late summer 2010 for the 20Ten tour and they were photographed out together in Vienna.She was wearing a yellow dress.He took Andy as his date to only one event,The Versace fashion show in November 2011.Prince also escorted Misty Copeland to the Elton John Oscar party,a Music Cares event and the NYC Met Gala in early 2011.People were sure they were a couple...then Andy came along.

pinkcashmere23 said:

Denise was an amazing, sweet woman. I love her. But she was his age and she's not at all what I'm talking about either.
We know he had already been there.
This would be a TOTALLY new experience. It would have to be; otherwise it wouldn't hold the power to pull him in.
When I say pull him in I mean and he meant in a very spiritual way first and foremost. Nothing is sexier.

pinkcashmere23 said:

Speaking of Bria, remember his song "All This Love" from Montreux 2009? He calls her "Spiritual healer".

"Spiritual healer, lay your body down.
Your lips are soft, your hips are round."

He loved the idea of a spiritual woman.
[Edited 9/15/17 8:16am]

anangellooksdown said:

Denise and Prince if what she wrote is true had a spiritual connection. I believe that is why they remained as they were over decades tonthe point we have him publicly begging God to send her back.home to him and publicly stating he loved her with a passion uncontested. It was on a deep soulful level and they both had grown spiritually.
[Edited 9/15/17 11:11am]

Vashtix said:

anangellooksdown said:

Denise was an amazing, sweet woman. I love her. But she was his age and she's not at all what I'm talking about either. We know he had already been there. This would be a TOTALLY new experience. It would have to be; otherwise it wouldn't hold the power to pull him in. When I say pull him in I mean and he meant in a very spiritual way first and foremost. Nothing is sexier.

Denise and Prince if what she wrote is true had a spiritual connection. I believe that is why they remained as they were over decades tonthe point we have him publicly begging God to send her baxk.home to him and publicly stating he loved her with a passion uncontested. It was on a deep soulful level and they both had grown spiritually.

I love the thought of that.

anangellooksdown said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

He did take Bria with him to several events in 2009 while they were in Europe and I seem to remember him mentioning 'Bolivian paper doll' in I think All This Love on Elixer.He also took her to Europe with him late summer 2010 for the 20Ten tour and they were photographed out together in Vienna.She was wearing a yellow dress.He took Andy as his date to only one event,The Versace fashion show in November 2011.Prince also escorted Misty Copeland to the Elton John Oscar party,a Music Cares event and the NYC Met Gala in early 2011.People were sure they were a couple...then Andy came along.

Speaking of Bria, remember his song "All This Love" from Montreux 2009? He calls her "Spiritual healer". "Spiritual healer, lay your body down. Your lips are soft, your hips are round." He loved the idea of a spiritual woman. [Edited 9/15/17 8:16am]

Yes,I do remember that.I loved the song!I enjoyed her album.Also Immersion was supposedly about her baptism.

Vashtix said:

PRINCE developed such intimate relationships with people....SO close... I think he ALWAYS loved Denise and he cared about her very much. He made time for everyone. I have always admire this about him. Of course he would be there for her. He stuck to his word ("Adore")...he meant it.

I feel he was ready for a new chapter in his life around 2015/2016.

I believe he was hanging on to the past and was emotional and also coping with his physical pain, and I think he needed hope.
Something really new to come into his universe in a way that would interest, inspire and encourage him very deeply. In a calm, trusting, consistent way.

Just something I wished for him.
[Edited 9/15/17 8:48am]

I do have to laugh at us on this thread sometimes.

The public must think we're crazy.

Well? At least we know each other by now and where each person is coming from. .

Love you guys.

Thanks, Prince, for my Purple Family. Opinions and all.

anangellooksdown said:

I do have to laugh at us on this thread sometimes. The public must think we're crazy. Well? At least we know each other by now and where each person is coming from. . Love you guys. Thanks, Prince, for my Purple Family. Opinions and all.

True! Love you too angel. Yes,I'm thankful for the Purple Family as well.It's a community of some wonderful people and I'm thankful Prince brought us all together.

pinkcashmere23 said:

Pink....❤️
💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
PRINCE Forever.
[Edited 9/15/17 9:10am]

anangellooksdown said:

I agree, he needed to vary his diet regarding women. Candy is nice but
Hardly a complete meal does it make. I'm not say in every case this was so, but
He loved his sweets!

anangellooksdown said:

I believe it was me who mentioned Michelle Obama and I'm gonna trust
You don't think there would be no sexually chemistry not based on her looks.
What if I had said Iman. I'm not trying to switch the convo, and no need to but
I had to mention it. I'm gonna trust that I can glean what you mean without a debate ensuing. And I say this kindly and heart to heart. Best.

pinkcashmere23 said:

I can see the possibility of Tamron being a compatable pairing.

anangellooksdown said:

Kinda like the lady that finally capture George Clooney. That type is what I think you mean. And I can agree.

anangellooksdown said:

Yes, he gave us each other !!!!!

anangellooksdown said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

True! Love you too angel. Yes,I'm thankful for the Purple Family as well.It's a community of some wonderful people and I'm thankful Prince brought us all together.

Pink....❤️ 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜 PRINCE Forever. [Edited 9/15/17 9:10am]

purplefam99 said:

Great way to word it.

purplefam99 said:

PF99, speak your heart, please.
I wasn't thinking of looks at all when I said that. I was thinking of all kinds of other things. When I think of a strong partner, I think of something different. I always got the feeling Michelle "wore the pants", and the Prez was sort of intimated. Plus, the kind of relationship I picture Prince being long term and happy in is very unique.

purplefam99 said:

💜🌺

laurarichardson said:

Oh gosh I didn't know he had to deal with that, I also have that issue and if you
Not on top of it, it can really bring you down. Especially if you don't eat meat,
Which I was not eating when it got really bad. Ooofff you feel awful, thx for posting that I didn't know.

anangellooksdown said:

purplefam99 said:

I believe it was me who mentioned Michelle Obama and I'm gonna trust You don't think there would be no sexually chemistry not based on her looks. What if I had said Iman. I'm not trying to switch the convo, and no need to but I had to mention it. I'm gonna trust that I can glean what you mean without a debate ensuing. And I say this kindly and heart to heart. Best.

PF99, speak your heart, please. I wasn't thinking of looks at all when I said that. I was thinking of all kinds of other things. When I think of a strong partner, I think of something different. I always got the feeling Michelle "wore the pants", and the Prez was sort of intimated. Plus, the kind of relationship I picture Prince being long term and happy in is very unique.

thank you anangel for that soft spot to land. i appreciate it.

i was thinking about "this woman" and (i think) he needed someone to show him new things,

someone who could say come here look at this, and most importantly someone who had the

means to say "i have booked a flight for you at X place meet me there i have some things i want

you to see and discover and share with you".

I aslo think that people who are especially connected

to God may already have that fulfillment within the context of their relationship they share with God.

So perhaps needing what i stated in the 2nd paragraph is mute.

but i do understand that within my earthly mind i wanted him to have his earthly equal and that is

MY desire for him and everyone really.

and again thx. i tried to create paragraphs but it didn't work

[Edited 9/15/17 14:03pm]

[Edited 9/15/17 14:04pm]

purplefam99 said:[quote]

anangellooksdown said:

purplefam99 said:

I believe it was me who mentioned Michelle Obama and I'm gonna trust You don't think there would be no sexually chemistry not based on her looks. What if I had said Iman. I'm not trying to switch the convo, and no need to but I had to mention it. I'm gonna trust that I can glean what you mean without a debate ensuing. And I say this kindly and heart to heart. Best.

PF99, speak your heart, please. I wasn't thinking of looks at all when I said that. I was thinking of all kinds of other things. When I think of a strong partner, I think of something different. I always got the feeling Michelle "wore the pants", and the Prez was sort of intimated. Plus, the kind of relationship I picture Prince being long term and happy in is very unique.

thank you anangel for that soft spot to land. i appreciate it.

i was thinking about "this woman" and (i think) he needed someone to show him new things,

someone who could say come here look at this, and most importantly someone who had the

means to say "i have booked a flight for you at X place meet me there i have some things i want

you to see and discover and share with you".

I aslo think that people who are especially connected

to God may already have that fulfillment within the context of their relationship they share with God.

So perhaps needing what i stated in the 2nd paragraph is mute.

but i do understand that within my earthly mind i wanted him to have his earthly equal and that is

MY desire for him and everyone really.

and again thx. i tried to create paragraphs but it didn't work

[Edited 9/15/17 14:03pm]

[Edited 9/15/17 14:04pm]

[/quote

///// Hi PF99,
I'm editing here because I sort of complicate my response.
Thank you for your thoughts.

My first thought was actually that there's a difference between showing someone things and simply being something. Being something and someone very unique in the very ordinary every day tasks and relationships.
I can't explain what I see because it would have to be in real time in her heart and all her responses and dealings.
I'm not talking about just being "positive"...there's way more to it than that.
I feel he would've wanted to be in this person's presence very much and would want to please her and make her happy.
I also feel he needed the arms of someone just like this around him.

I don't think he needed love from more than one person. I believe he craved a partner who was very, very special in a way that most people wouldn't think of, until they got to be in her presence. Then they would see.

She would have the same power when she walked into a room as he had.
But for way different reasons.
[Edited 9/16/17 13:19pm]