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Strawberrylova
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Jill Jones FB post

Jill Jones wrote on FB in response to this article:

http://www.mostbeautifull...this-lousy


Whoever wrote this article I sincerely want to THANK YOU. I guess I will get called the angry black woman as I seem to be portrayed as for speaking up AND OUT but I never revealed how deeply hurt I was by NOT ONLY THE OMISSION but the SERIOUS micro aggression asserted in these liner notes as my role in all of this. ( in the kitchen???) are you for fucking real? Amazing that the author of this article detected that.

We are living in some very interesting times. And the WHITE WASHING MUST STOP!

I don't have a racist bone in my body and I have always been for diversity. But don't get it twisted. The women of color in this camp are being draggggged. And the black men , emasculated. As if we were some stupid pickaninny bobble heads. And Prince only heard jazz via W & L. Forget that his father was a jazz musician? And FYI if ANYONE ANYONE introduced Prince to new forms and explorations and someone who gave him the " out" and Avenue to extricate himself from musical monotony & creative boredom in music, he found a new inspirational comrade it was Sheila. And after that the many genuinely talented musicians of great artistry and caliber who came along to compliment and bring new added value to his creations. Celebrate all of them.

Read the full commentary here:

https://www.facebook.com/...4968731040

* Post has been removed by Jill Jones *

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Reply #1 posted 08/22/17 8:52am

crimesofparis

Per the article itself, I'm pretty sure that the only story with her in the liner notes isn't the kitchen one. Lisa has the story about them singing on "Baby, I'm a Star."

She should have been credited more clearly, but she wasn't credited properly on the original release, either. I'd blame WB for that one.
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Reply #2 posted 08/22/17 9:18am

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crimesofparis said:

Per the article itself, I'm pretty sure that the only story with her in the liner notes isn't the kitchen one. Lisa has the story about them singing on "Baby, I'm a Star." She should have been credited more clearly, but she wasn't credited properly on the original release, either. I'd blame WB for that one.

Jill has said "Fuck WB" on her website so she blames them as well. It feeds into the whitewashing and it is being noticed by the fanbase.

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Reply #3 posted 08/22/17 11:26am

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laurarichardson said:

crimesofparis said:

Per the article itself, I'm pretty sure that the only story with her in the liner notes isn't the kitchen one. Lisa has the story about them singing on "Baby, I'm a Star." She should have been credited more clearly, but she wasn't credited properly on the original release, either. I'd blame WB for that one.

Jill has said "Fuck WB" on her website so she blames them as well. It feeds into the whitewashing and it is being noticed by the fanbase.

But hopefully in the future a PR box set of music, included more thurough credits and information

A little talk with Prince is needed

heart

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
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Reply #4 posted 08/22/17 12:39pm

PennyPurple

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nuts Does she ever stop??

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Reply #5 posted 08/22/17 1:52pm

Thewooh

I'm glad she continues to speak up.
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Reply #6 posted 08/22/17 3:03pm

BillieBalloon

It looks like this article is gaining momentum as Andre Cymone just shared a link to it on Facebook too.
Baby, you're a star.

Meet me in another world, space and joy
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Reply #7 posted 08/22/17 3:30pm

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Why is she bringing skin color into it. The article states nothing about skin color.


She is a jealous ex-lover who wants credit. When was the last time she saw Prince, other then Vanity's funeral?

OUt of the entire article, this is all it has to say about JJ. lol

Fascinating stuff, but oddly Jill Jones was left out of the vocal credits and only mentioned in the liner notes as present in Prince’s kitchen. Despite clearly hearing Jill’s voice on a few tracks we guess she was around making pancakes or checking the Dorito inventory or something.

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Reply #8 posted 08/22/17 3:48pm

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Thewooh said:

I'm glad she continues to speak up.

I just hope(d) hope she would just communicate privately and legally.
All those fans who are anti-this group anti-that group whooping and hollering cannot do anything for her

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
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Reply #9 posted 08/22/17 4:32pm

Thewooh

OldFriends4Sale said:



Thewooh said:


I'm glad she continues to speak up.



I just hope(d) hope she would just communicate privately and legally.
All those fans who are anti-this group anti-that group whooping and hollering cannot do anything for her



Nah. She should make it public, to balance public statements made by other associates.
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Reply #10 posted 08/22/17 4:48pm

rogifan

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Why does she have to bring race into it? F that.
[Edited 8/22/17 16:53pm]
Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #11 posted 08/22/17 4:53pm

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Thewooh said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I just hope(d) hope she would just communicate privately and legally.
All those fans who are anti-this group anti-that group whooping and hollering cannot do anything for her

Nah. She should make it public, to balance public statements made by other associates.

Doesn't help her brand
Fans who want her to 'go in' are thinking selfishly

there are a few too many 'fans' who flock to certain people because they like to

see them angry or riled up. That is not love. Encouraging that is not love and it is not healthy for the soul mind or body.
I used to see people do that to Cat, right before she got sick.

I does help on the business side

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
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Reply #12 posted 08/22/17 5:07pm

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I want to like Lisa, I want to like Wendy, I want to like Mayte, I want to like all of P's associates but some of these people make it very hard. Credit needs to be properly given to those who contributed to any part of his personal or professional life, whether the other person likes it or not. Throwing people under the bus to make one look more important or better is childish and all of this is coming from people who are middle age.
"There is only one success-To spend your life in your own way!"
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Reply #13 posted 08/22/17 6:00pm

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Butterscotch said:

I want to like Lisa, I want to like Wendy, I want to like Mayte, I want to like all of P's associates but some of these people make it very hard. Credit needs to be properly given to those who contributed to any part of his personal or professional life, whether the other person likes it or not. Throwing people under the bus to make one look more important or better is childish and all of this is coming from people who are middle age.

I believe all of them are still in a weird grieving stage.
I'm not too hard on any of them, except for Kirk right now.

People should reach out to each other intimately, not cyberly(can that be a word)
I still think it's only been 1 year and 4 months and people are still caught up in the

swirl of everything good and bad of his death.

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
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Reply #14 posted 08/22/17 6:14pm

scorp84

Butterscotch said:

I want to like Lisa, I want to like Wendy, I want to like Mayte, I want to like all of P's associates but some of these people make it very hard. Credit needs to be properly given to those who contributed to any part of his personal or professional life, whether the other person likes it or not. Throwing people under the bus to make one look more important or better is childish and all of this is coming from people who are middle age.

It doesn't matter whether fans choose to "like" them or not. They're people just like us. If some of us think it's "complicated" to like people from afar, it means shit in comparison to the complexities of the real relationships each individual shared with him.

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Reply #15 posted 08/22/17 6:18pm

SoulAlive

I think it's time for everybody (former girlfriends,former band members) to let the bitterness go.Time to move on.It's not healthy to carry around all of these bad thoughts.No more angry social media posts! I don't think that Prince would want everyone to be feuding with each other.
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Reply #16 posted 08/22/17 6:35pm

donnyenglish

I LOVE JILL. She is like a beautiful version of Madea. She keeps it real and puts perpetrators in their place.
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Reply #17 posted 08/22/17 7:00pm

rdhull

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Poeples silence can be just as bad as saying lies etc.

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
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Reply #18 posted 08/22/17 7:08pm

Butterscotch

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scorp84 said:



Butterscotch said:


I want to like Lisa, I want to like Wendy, I want to like Mayte, I want to like all of P's associates but some of these people make it very hard. Credit needs to be properly given to those who contributed to any part of his personal or professional life, whether the other person likes it or not. Throwing people under the bus to make one look more important or better is childish and all of this is coming from people who are middle age.



It doesn't matter whether fans choose to "like" them or not. They're people just like us. If some of us think it's "complicated" to like people from afar, it means shit in comparison to the complexities of the real relationships each individual shared with him.



My point is I want to like them enough to hear their perspectives. However, bashing one another doesn't give opportunity for that to occur. I want the truth to the best of their knowledge. If accounts are not clear, concise or honestly conveyed, than I would rather them not speak on it at all.
[Edited 8/22/17 19:09pm]
"There is only one success-To spend your life in your own way!"
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Reply #19 posted 08/22/17 7:14pm

eduJ

I've always been a Jill fan but one day she's all chill and zen, and the next she's "going in" and playing the race card. I kinda feel bad for her that she's almost always on the defensive. There are about 50 people on this planet who still care which associated artist co-wrote or sang backup on some obscure unreleased track. A few decades from now there will be zero. Also, it speaks volumes that Wendy, Lisa, Mayte and Sheila continue to take the high road no matter how much crap is slung their way. Others need to get a grip and keep shit in perspective.

[Edited 8/22/17 19:15pm]

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Reply #20 posted 08/22/17 7:28pm

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eduJ said:

I've always been a Jill fan but one day she's all chill and zen, and the next she's "going in" and playing the race card. I kinda feel bad for her that she's almost always on the defensive. There are about 50 people on this planet who still care which associated artist co-wrote or sang backup on some obscure unreleased track. A few decades from now there will be zero. Also, it speaks volumes that Wendy, Lisa, Mayte and Sheila continue to take the high road no matter how much crap is slung their way. Others need to get a grip and keep shit in perspective.

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We must remember how many semnal artists got their start playing with Miles Davis. Im not equating associates with all of Miles Davis' former players, but I'm also not denying it. Its funny how people want to say sometimes how some band members were seminal in their part of building his empire with musicianship, ideas etc. But not with some others.

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
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Reply #21 posted 08/22/17 7:37pm

Strawberrylova
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rdhull said:

Poeples silence can be just as bad as saying lies etc.


Yep! Especially when that person is dead. Speak on jill...speak on!!
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Reply #22 posted 08/22/17 7:52pm

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Strawberrylova123 said:

rdhull said:

Poeples silence can be just as bad as saying lies etc.

Yep! Especially when that person is dead. Speak on jill...speak on!!

Im talking about the ones who are still living.

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
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Reply #23 posted 08/22/17 8:02pm

Strawberrylova
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rdhull said:



Strawberrylova123 said:


rdhull said:

Poeples silence can be just as bad as saying lies etc.



Yep! Especially when that person is dead. Speak on jill...speak on!!

Im talking about the ones who are still living.


I know that you are saying that,what I'm saying is when people are speaking about a person who is now dead saying they're the one's who introduced him to jazz?...I'm glad people like JJ is calling out that BS
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Reply #24 posted 08/22/17 8:32pm

Sydney

I love Jill ones -I wish she would write a book. She was there. Step Off.

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Reply #25 posted 08/22/17 10:01pm

SoulAlive

eduJ said:

There are about 50 people on this planet who still care which associated artist co-wrote or sang backup on some obscure unreleased track. A few decades from now there will be zero.


very good point.
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Reply #26 posted 08/23/17 4:08am

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Wendy talked about being bitter in that documentary, she wasn't hiding it and she wasn't saying it's a good thing, she was being honest. Yeah she's bitter about a few things and thankful for others, she's human.

As for Jill Jones, she released one of my favourite ever Prince associate albums and clearly was very close to him for quite a while. She deserves credit in some places where she wasn't credited for sure. Now she's bitter about stuff as well. She's human.

everyone is bitter. hurrah. I'm so glad someone is running a website called the Most Beautiful Lies rolleyes

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Reply #27 posted 08/23/17 4:13am

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eduJ said:

I've always been a Jill fan but one day she's all chill and zen, and the next she's "going in" and playing the race card. I kinda feel bad for her that she's almost always on the defensive. There are about 50 people on this planet who still care which associated artist co-wrote or sang backup on some obscure unreleased track. A few decades from now there will be zero. Also, it speaks volumes that Wendy, Lisa, Mayte and Sheila continue to take the high road no matter how much crap is slung their way. Others need to get a grip and keep shit in perspective.

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You need to take your race card nonsense somewhere else. Black associates in the Prince world have been getting crap on this board for years. It does not matter if two people in the world care people should be credited for their work and other people should not be telling tall tales ( they introduced him to jazz when he dad was a jazz musician). Condesending as hell thing to say.

If W&L were around then they know Jill's contributions and in no way should they have asked that she be kept away from them at the celebrations which in the end resulted in her not being welcomed at all to the celebration events at Paisley Park. The last time I looked that was Prince's place and his name and music generates the income not the Revolution. They are line steppers and someone has to tell line steppers when they are going to far.

If you have a problem with people speaking up for themselves that tells us more about you then them.

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Reply #28 posted 08/23/17 4:17am

laurarichardso
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What the fuck is she bitter about? She was a nobody that Prince put front in center in his band. Who gets a chance like that? It is her fault if she was not smart enought to milk it and run with it.

Damm look at Sheila E or Morris Day. They got their shot and have never stopped working it.

jaawwnn said:

Wendy talked about being bitter in that documentary, she wasn't hiding it and she wasn't saying it's a good thing, she was being honest. Yeah she's bitter about a few things and thankful for others, she's human.

As for Jill Jones, she released one of my favourite ever Prince associate albums and clearly was very close to him for quite a while. Now she's bitter about stuff as well. She deserves credit in some places where she wasn't credited.

everyone is bitter. hurrah. I'm so glad someone is running a website called the Most Beautiful Lies rolleyes

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Reply #29 posted 08/23/17 4:22am

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yack yack yack Laura, tell it to her not me, I said she was being honest I didn't say she was being reasonable.

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