cloveringold85 said:

purplegirl00 said:

The bold really speaks to my thoughts.

I don't understand the outrage about her speculating/ questioning. Isn't that what many have done on this board for over a year now? How many death investigation threads did we have here and how many theories have been thrown around- AIDS, cancer, murder, and suicide? One is not better than other, is it? They are all pretty miserable ways to die, no? Her wondering if it was an intentional overdose vs. accidental is not really that far out there due to the sheer amount of medication found in his system. That is what she said. I'm not going to pretend to be an expert because I am not. I won't even say that I know what was in those search warrants because I don't, but I do not think it is outrageous or out of the realm of possibilities to think that Prince did in fact know what he was taking and did it with purpose. He was not and ignorant man and I don't believe he would've taken something without knowing what it was, especially considering it didn't come from a typical pharmacy. I know, it's uncomfortable to think that and even I would rather not, but it's there.

Maybe Prince was in desperate need of relief for physical pain and possibly emotional as well. I listened to the PP Gala concerts a while back and he was clearly emotional and started being candid. For him to overdose twice in a 7 day period is really disturbing. Equally so is the fact that he was alone for the second time. I don't think it's fair to blame this person or that person. We don't know what really went down. It is possible this is how Prince wanted things to be.

Anyway, I believe Stevie was trying to make sense of what happened to Prince using her experiences in the business and the toll it takes on the mind and body. I don't think she's said anything worse than anyone else has at this point. She may not have been close friend to Prince in years, but how many of us here were?

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Sure we are all speculating here, but we're not going to a british tabloid and saying it. Big difference between talking on a forum versus talking to the press.

After some thought, I'll concede that she shouldn't have gone to the press with her "thinking out loud" and questioning. I don't see big headlines about it though.

[Edited 7/10/17 18:19pm]

purplegirl00 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Sure we are all speculating here, but we're not going to a british tabloid and saying it. Big difference between talking on a forum versus talking to the press.

After some thought, I'll concede that she shouldn't have gone to the press with her "thinking out loud" and questioning. I don't see big headlines about it though.

[Edited 7/10/17 18:19pm]

all press have entertainment coverage and Stevie is a big name, she didnt have to go looking for a story. Stevie has legions of fans just like Prince did and if Stevie is in their city press are going to seek her out for a story and consider themselves lucky if she speaks with them.

interesting she mentions...maybe he took too much on purpose.....some people OD NOT by accident

purplegirl00 said:

cloveringold85 said:

Right. This is why I do not understand how people have removed all responsibility from Prince. He was not superhuman and could've made his own choices. While he was wonderful in so many ways, he was still a human being with flaws, shortcomings, and struggles. Because he was so private, we do not know what those were, but we do know he was suffering greatly in the last 3 months of his life. It was evident in his display of emotions, vulnerability, and his physical appearance. I am one who believes he was really just looking for relief and lost his way. He was not about pity and didn't want those around him to be concerned- hence the party he threw at PP the day after the plane incident. He gave reassurances, telling people not to "waste their prayers" that he was fine and sent everyone home. However, that's what people do when they are struggling and do not want everyone up in their business. Again, I don't know what happened, but I'm looking at Prince's humanity and not discounting that he may have chose the fate he had just to escape.

If that makes me insulting, so be it.

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Purplegirl: I don't think anyone here believes that Prince was superhuman.

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I also do not believe that Prince would commit suicide. No, not at PP, no way! Why would he want to be found that way by his employee's, and especially knowing he had a doctor's appointment the next morning? He was making plans for the future. He loved himself, life and people way too much to do that. He was a God loving man; a spritual man. And, for some who say that maybe he did commit suicide and made it look like an accident.....again, that's a definitive "no" from me.

When people say "Prince wouldn't have done this or that because that was not like him" right away my question is, how do you know? How do you know what he was thinking or what was going on with him? How do you know his suffering didn't overtake him? How can you make such an assumption? He was very private.

I have known two people that committed suicide and both had plans for their futures, near future too. Not all suicides are planned way ahead of time. Some happen because the person is in such a dark place at one given moment and has tried all to cope but just can't. From the people I knew- one was happily married with a wife and two beautiful babies. He worked at an ivy league university known for being the frontier for research and cutting edge technology. He and his colleagues were about to get a product patented. It was big. He overdosed in the bathroom that was right next door to his children's bedroom two weeks before he and his colleagues were to go to Haiti to test out the product. He and his wife were God loving people too. They attended church and led prayer groups. Everyone was taken a back because his future was so bright but he was suffering silently because of all the demands and expectations people had of him. So because someone has future plans, does not mean they can't fall into a dark place and end their lives.

Thank you for this, it is very generous of you to post this and people should read it slowly and carefully and internalize the message you are sharing. Liking Prince's music doesn't mean you knew Prince. Having sexual fantasies about Prince doesn't mean you could experience his physical pain. Having every album and seeing a boat-load of concerts doesn't mean you were in his heart and mind when things got dark for Prince. We all loved Prince and are blessed to have been here on earth while he breathed and made magic...but we didn't really know him.

Again, I don't think he was on the fentanyl, I don't think he knew it was in those pills, and if someone got them for him, I don't think they knew it either. They just thought is was the normal pill.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

purplegirl00 said:

When people say "Prince wouldn't have done this or that because that was not like him" right away my question is, how do you know? How do you know what he was thinking or what was going on with him? How do you know his suffering didn't overtake him? How can you make such an assumption? He was very private.

I have known two people that committed suicide and both had plans for their futures, near future too. Not all suicides are planned way ahead of time. Some happen because the person is in such a dark place at one given moment and has tried all to cope but just can't. From the people I knew- one was happily married with a wife and two beautiful babies. He worked at an ivy league university known for being the frontier for research and cutting edge technology. He and his colleagues were about to get a product patented. It was big. He overdosed in the bathroom that was right next door to his children's bedroom two weeks before he and his colleagues were to go to Haiti to test out the product. He and his wife were God loving people too. They attended church and led prayer groups. Everyone was taken a back because his future was so bright but he was suffering silently because of all the demands and expectations people had of him. So because someone has future plans, does not mean they can't fall into a dark place and end their lives.

Thank you for this, it is very generous of you to post this and people should read it slowly and carefully and internalize the message you are sharing. Liking Prince's music doesn't mean you knew Prince. Having sexual fantasies about Prince doesn't mean you could experience his physical pain. Having every album and seeing a boat-load of concerts doesn't mean you were in his heart and mind when things got dark for Prince. We all loved Prince and are blessed to have been here on earth while he breathed and made magic...but we didn't really know him.

BINGO!

Which is why we can discuss him as we do because we don't know. We all have our own "take" on him - we do not know him and that for me is my fascination. He was known but not known at all and it fascinates me even more about him.

[Edited 7/10/17 19:14pm]

People are talking about Prince making plans but I have to ask if any plans were made after the first overdose. I have to wonder also if Prince's mood might have changed drastically when he realized that eventually the plane being landed in Molene would be exposed for what it was -- not a flu incident but a drug overdose. If his sister is to be believed, Prince, plans or not, was not going out of his way to change the course of his life in terms of his drug usage. The plans were probably short-term not long term.

When I speculated suicide, I did so with the assumption that Prince didn't know about the fentanyl or didn't know which pills contained fentanyl. He might have just downed a handfill of pills thinking they were hydrocodone (or whatever) and letting the chips fall when they may.

purplegirl00 said:

cloveringold85 said:

Right. This is why I do not understand how people have removed all responsibility from Prince. He was not superhuman and could've made his own choices. While he was wonderful in so many ways, he was still a human being with flaws, shortcomings, and struggles. Because he was so private, we do not know what those were, but we do know he was suffering greatly in the last 3 months of his life. It was evident in his display of emotions, vulnerability, and his physical appearance. I am one who believes he was really just looking for relief and lost his way. He was not about pity and didn't want those around him to be concerned- hence the party he threw at PP the day after the plane incident. He gave reassurances, telling people not to "waste their prayers" that he was fine and sent everyone home. However, that's what people do when they are struggling and do not want everyone up in their business. Again, I don't know what happened, but I'm looking at Prince's humanity and not discounting that he may have chose the fate he had just to escape.

If that makes me insulting, so be it.

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Purplegirl: I don't think anyone here believes that Prince was superhuman.

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I also do not believe that Prince would commit suicide. No, not at PP, no way! Why would he want to be found that way by his employee's, and especially knowing he had a doctor's appointment the next morning? He was making plans for the future. He loved himself, life and people way too much to do that. He was a God loving man; a spritual man. And, for some who say that maybe he did commit suicide and made it look like an accident.....again, that's a definitive "no" from me.

When people say "Prince wouldn't have done this or that because that was not like him" right away my question is, how do you know? How do you know what he was thinking or what was going on with him? How do you know his suffering didn't overtake him? How can you make such an assumption? He was very private.

I have known two people that committed suicide and both had plans for their futures, near future too. Not all suicides are planned way ahead of time. Some happen because the person is in such a dark place at one given moment and has tried all to cope but just can't. From the people I knew- one was happily married with a wife and two beautiful babies. He worked at an ivy league university known for being the frontier for research and cutting edge technology. He and his colleagues were about to get a product patented. It was big. He overdosed in the bathroom that was right next door to his children's bedroom two weeks before he and his colleagues were to go to Haiti to test out the product. He and his wife were God loving people too. They attended church and led prayer groups. Everyone was taken a back because his future was so bright but he was suffering silently because of all the demands and expectations people had of him. So because someone has future plans, does not mean they can't fall into a dark place and end their lives.

Vashtix said:

cloveringold85 said:

It upsets me to hear Stevie speaking this way about Prince! To say that he was probably "fractured from the neck down?" WTF??

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She was not close to Prince and is not qualfied to speak about his alleged drug use.

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She was not talking that way in September, 2016:

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http://theinfluence.org/w...out-drugs/

AS time goes on I think different perspectives and realities are setting in; Prince was in pain. He toured for decades.

It hurts to imagine him in pain but clearly he was; he had a hip replacement we now believe . He was 57. It hurts to imagine but I get it . I understand where she is coming from.

Vashtix said:

Do people think Prince was not in pain?

Sure, he was in pain. But it's really unclear if he even knew he was taking fentanyl. The pills he took were counterfeit, and fentanyl was not supposed to be in them at all. It's not a Prince specific issue, counterfeit pills containing fatal doses of fentanyl is a national epedimic.

alandail said:

Vashtix said:

Do people think Prince was not in pain?

Sure, he was in pain. But it's really unclear if he even knew he was taking fentanyl. The pills he took were counterfeit, and fentanyl was not supposed to be in them at all. It's not a Prince specific issue, counterfeit pills containing fatal doses of fentanyl is a national epedimic.

Carfentanyl is the most dangerous drug out there and it's killing on a daily basis

yup, i've said many times, we don't know how things are from the outside of any situation. I've seen some guys who look like they had it made and they fall apart. Just a couple weeks ago, a guy i knew drowned, when i was told i suggested that he might have done it on purpose or rather that "he did self destructive things" of course i didn't say this to anyone super close to him. It did cross my mind that he did risky things, just being honest, sometimes people aren't in touch with themselves, lots of car crashes, od's, 'accidents' are really just a different version of suicide. I'd even go so far to say addictive behavior is suicidal when you know it'll kill you and you keep doing it.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

purplegirl00 said:

When people say "Prince wouldn't have done this or that because that was not like him" right away my question is, how do you know? How do you know what he was thinking or what was going on with him? How do you know his suffering didn't overtake him? How can you make such an assumption? He was very private.

I have known two people that committed suicide and both had plans for their futures, near future too. Not all suicides are planned way ahead of time. Some happen because the person is in such a dark place at one given moment and has tried all to cope but just can't. From the people I knew- one was happily married with a wife and two beautiful babies. He worked at an ivy league university known for being the frontier for research and cutting edge technology. He and his colleagues were about to get a product patented. It was big. He overdosed in the bathroom that was right next door to his children's bedroom two weeks before he and his colleagues were to go to Haiti to test out the product. He and his wife were God loving people too. They attended church and led prayer groups. Everyone was taken a back because his future was so bright but he was suffering silently because of all the demands and expectations people had of him. So because someone has future plans, does not mean they can't fall into a dark place and end their lives.

Thank you for this, it is very generous of you to post this and people should read it slowly and carefully and internalize the message you are sharing. Liking Prince's music doesn't mean you knew Prince. Having sexual fantasies about Prince doesn't mean you could experience his physical pain. Having every album and seeing a boat-load of concerts doesn't mean you were in his heart and mind when things got dark for Prince. We all loved Prince and are blessed to have been here on earth while he breathed and made magic...but we didn't really know him.

PennyPurple said:

Again, I don't think he was on the fentanyl, I don't think he knew it was in those pills, and if someone got them for him, I don't think they knew it either. They just thought is was the normal pill.

It's her opinion, and it'sd a valid one at that. I love Stevie Nicks, have the upmost respect for her, so I doubt she spoke without thinking. She's in the business and perhaps she knew about Prince's dependency on painkillers like some other artists have also speculated (Kravitz,for one, and the Sheila E was the first to talk about hip pain, like she was paving the way for the painkiller rumours that would surely follow).

Bottom line is we don't know what Prince felt, thought, worried about, etc. We speculate based on songs, apparent moods, interviews, the lot, but we do not know the man. Every person has many sides and Prince probably had many more, being an artist, a creative person exposed to the world, with everything he did scrutinized to the max. So no, we do not know Prince, we do not know if he was indeed depressed in later years due to age issues, health issues, drug issues, and battling deamons like having no children, having no long term partner, etc. People have mentioned his make up looked pasty and overall badly applied. He photoshoped his press photos to an extreme. He continued surrounding himself with young people. And he was doing a tour where he could spend most of the time sitting down. So we could all easily come to the same conclusion as Stevie Nicks and being that she is in the business, is the same age and battled her own drug deamons, I won't be dismissing her opinion any time soon.

Exactly

alandail said:

Sure, he was in pain. But it's really unclear if he even knew he was taking fentanyl. The pills he took were counterfeit, and fentanyl was not supposed to be in them at all. It's not a Prince specific issue, counterfeit pills containing fatal doses of fentanyl is a national epedimic.

[Edited 7/11/17 4:40am]

MMJas said:

It's her opinion, and it'sd a valid one at that. I love Stevie Nicks, have the upmost respect for her, so I doubt she spoke without thinking. She's in the business and perhaps she knew about Prince's dependency on painkillers like some other artists have also speculated (Kravitz,for one, and the Sheila E was the first to talk about hip pain, like she was paving the way for the painkiller rumours that would surely follow).

Bottom line is we don't know what Prince felt, thought, worried about, etc. We speculate based on songs, apparent moods, interviews, the lot, but we do not know the man. Every person has many sides and Prince probably had many more, being an artist, a creative person exposed to the world, with everything he did scrutinized to the max. So no, we do not know Prince, we do not know if he was indeed depressed in later years due to age issues, health issues, drug issues, and battling deamons like having no children, having no long term partner, etc. People have mentioned his make up looked pasty and overall badly applied. He photoshoped his press photos to an extreme. He continued surrounding himself with young people. And he was doing a tour where he could spend most of the time sitting down. So we could all easily come to the same conclusion as Stevie Nicks and being that she is in the business, is the same age and battled her own drug deamons, I won't be dismissing her opinion any time soon.

Stevie is in the industry she may be telling the truth about Prince being really broken up. I still think people cannot see that his injuries could have been very extensive and pain meds may have been the only option for him. I still believe he was managing these meds for a long time and something happened to make the stituation worsen.

Pain can make you really crazy and he may have already been dealing with depression and other issues on top of joint problems.

He death may not have been a deliberate suicide could have been just not caring anymore if he went to a rehab what would that have done about joint problems for the long haul.

I also think that Dr. S did write that pain med Rx for Prince and the reason he is not in any trouble could be because of what is in Prince' s medical file. I think the authorities know that if Dr. S was seeing Prince for real illness that his writing a pain script even under someone else's name would be seen as doctor being compassionate and thus no one is going to convict the doctor especially when the drugs that Dr. S prescribed did not result in Prince's death.

I see this as the only reason the doctor and KJ not ever being charged with anything.

[Edited 7/11/17 5:57am]

[Edited 7/11/17 6:00am]

PennyPurple said:

Again, I don't think he was on the fentanyl, I don't think he knew it was in those pills, and if someone got them for him, I don't think they knew it either. They just thought is was the normal pill.

I completely agree with you on the first part. The verdict is just still out for me on the second.

laurarichardson said:

MMJas said:

It's her opinion, and it'sd a valid one at that. I love Stevie Nicks, have the upmost respect for her, so I doubt she spoke without thinking. She's in the business and perhaps she knew about Prince's dependency on painkillers like some other artists have also speculated (Kravitz,for one, and the Sheila E was the first to talk about hip pain, like she was paving the way for the painkiller rumours that would surely follow).

Bottom line is we don't know what Prince felt, thought, worried about, etc. We speculate based on songs, apparent moods, interviews, the lot, but we do not know the man. Every person has many sides and Prince probably had many more, being an artist, a creative person exposed to the world, with everything he did scrutinized to the max. So no, we do not know Prince, we do not know if he was indeed depressed in later years due to age issues, health issues, drug issues, and battling deamons like having no children, having no long term partner, etc. People have mentioned his make up looked pasty and overall badly applied. He photoshoped his press photos to an extreme. He continued surrounding himself with young people. And he was doing a tour where he could spend most of the time sitting down. So we could all easily come to the same conclusion as Stevie Nicks and being that she is in the business, is the same age and battled her own drug deamons, I won't be dismissing her opinion any time soon.

Stevie is in the industry she may be telling the truth about Prince being really broken up. I still think people cannot see that his injuries could have been very extensive and pain meds may have been the only option for him. I still believe he was managing these meds for a long time and something happened to make the stituation worsen.

Pain can make you really crazy and he may have already been dealing with depression and other issues on top of joint problems.

He death may not have been a deliberate suicide could have been just not caring anymore if he went to a rehab what would that have done about joint problems for the long haul.

I also think that Dr. S did write that pain med Rx for Prince and the reason he is not in any trouble could be because of what is in Prince' s medical file. I think the authorities know that if Dr. S was seeing Prince for real illness that his writing a pain script even under someone else's name would be seen as doctor being compassionate and thus no one is going to convict the doctor especially when the drugs that Dr. S prescribed did not result in Prince's death.

I see this as the only reason the doctor and KJ not ever being charged with anything.

[Edited 7/11/17 5:57am]

[Edited 7/11/17 6:00am]

Agree.

MMJas said:

laurarichardson said:

Stevie is in the industry she may be telling the truth about Prince being really broken up. I still think people cannot see that his injuries could have been very extensive and pain meds may have been the only option for him. I still believe he was managing these meds for a long time and something happened to make the stituation worsen.

Pain can make you really crazy and he may have already been dealing with depression and other issues on top of joint problems.

He death may not have been a deliberate suicide could have been just not caring anymore if he went to a rehab what would that have done about joint problems for the long haul.

I also think that Dr. S did write that pain med Rx for Prince and the reason he is not in any trouble could be because of what is in Prince' s medical file. I think the authorities know that if Dr. S was seeing Prince for real illness that his writing a pain script even under someone else's name would be seen as doctor being compassionate and thus no one is going to convict the doctor especially when the drugs that Dr. S prescribed did not result in Prince's death.

I see this as the only reason the doctor and KJ not ever being charged with anything.

[Edited 7/11/17 5:57am]

[Edited 7/11/17 6:00am]

Agree.

me too

MMJas said:

It's her opinion, and it'sd a valid one at that. I love Stevie Nicks, have the upmost respect for her, so I doubt she spoke without thinking. She's in the business and perhaps she knew about Prince's dependency on painkillers like some other artists have also speculated (Kravitz,for one, and the Sheila E was the first to talk about hip pain, like she was paving the way for the painkiller rumours that would surely follow).

Bottom line is we don't know what Prince felt, thought, worried about, etc. We speculate based on songs, apparent moods, interviews, the lot, but we do not know the man. Every person has many sides and Prince probably had many more, being an artist, a creative person exposed to the world, with everything he did scrutinized to the max. So no, we do not know Prince, we do not know if he was indeed depressed in later years due to age issues, health issues, drug issues, and battling deamons like having no children, having no long term partner, etc. People have mentioned his make up looked pasty and overall badly applied. He photoshoped his press photos to an extreme. He continued surrounding himself with young people. And he was doing a tour where he could spend most of the time sitting down. So we could all easily come to the same conclusion as Stevie Nicks and being that she is in the business, is the same age and battled her own drug deamons, I won't be dismissing her opinion any time soon.

Great summation, Thanks.

So glad to see the iceberg of denial here on the Org. is starting to break up.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

So glad to see the iceberg of denial here on the Org. is starting to break up.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

So glad to see the iceberg of denial here on the Org. is starting to break up.

We are not in denial that he had illnesses. We can only go on what we know and what makes sense.

I still do not think Prince was a recreational drug user.

I do not belive he had AIDS.

I do not think anyone on this board thinks WB killed him or the Illumanatti.

We know his family and friends are being cyrtic, weird and just greedy which is causing the speculation to continue after a year.

However, we do not know anything about any phsycological or emotional problems he may have had and we cannot discount that at his core he was a womanizing dude he was quite happy doing what he was doing.

laurarichardson said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

So glad to see the iceberg of denial here on the Org. is starting to break up.

We are not in denial that he had illnesses. We can only go on what we know and what makes sense.

I still do not think Prince was a recreational drug user.

I do not belive he had AIDS.

I do not think anyone on this board thinks WB killed him or the Illumanatti.

We know his family and friends are being cyrtic, weird and just greedy which is causing the speculation to continue after a year.

However, we do not know anything about any phsycological or emotional problems he may have had and we cannot discount that at his core he was a womanizing dude he was quite happy doing what he was doing.

maybe back in the day...but happy-fucking-like-a-bunny Prince was not the suffering soul I saw on the P&M tour.

I don't think Prince would've said anything like this had Stevie been the one who died.

No matter what, it was wrong of Stevie.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

laurarichardson said:

We are not in denial that he had illnesses. We can only go on what we know and what makes sense.

I still do not think Prince was a recreational drug user.

I do not belive he had AIDS.

I do not think anyone on this board thinks WB killed him or the Illumanatti.

We know his family and friends are being cyrtic, weird and just greedy which is causing the speculation to continue after a year.

However, we do not know anything about any phsycological or emotional problems he may have had and we cannot discount that at his core he was a womanizing dude he was quite happy doing what he was doing.

maybe back in the day...but happy-fucking-like-a-bunny Prince was not the suffering soul I saw on the P&M tour.

You do not know if he soul was suffering he might have been in physical pain but as a Christian his soul may have been at peace.

laurarichardson said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

maybe back in the day...but happy-fucking-like-a-bunny Prince was not the suffering soul I saw on the P&M tour.

You do not know if he soul was suffering he might have been in physical pain but as a Christian his soul may have been at peace.

Please God, let this be true. His whole life's work indicated he wasn't afraid to die and he knew in his poor stressed bones there was a better place. My reference to him as a 'soul' could also have been written 'sentient being.'

laurarichardson said:

MMJas said:

It's her opinion, and it'sd a valid one at that. I love Stevie Nicks, have the upmost respect for her, so I doubt she spoke without thinking. She's in the business and perhaps she knew about Prince's dependency on painkillers like some other artists have also speculated (Kravitz,for one, and the Sheila E was the first to talk about hip pain, like she was paving the way for the painkiller rumours that would surely follow).

Bottom line is we don't know what Prince felt, thought, worried about, etc. We speculate based on songs, apparent moods, interviews, the lot, but we do not know the man. Every person has many sides and Prince probably had many more, being an artist, a creative person exposed to the world, with everything he did scrutinized to the max. So no, we do not know Prince, we do not know if he was indeed depressed in later years due to age issues, health issues, drug issues, and battling deamons like having no children, having no long term partner, etc. People have mentioned his make up looked pasty and overall badly applied. He photoshoped his press photos to an extreme. He continued surrounding himself with young people. And he was doing a tour where he could spend most of the time sitting down. So we could all easily come to the same conclusion as Stevie Nicks and being that she is in the business, is the same age and battled her own drug deamons, I won't be dismissing her opinion any time soon.

Stevie is in the industry she may be telling the truth about Prince being really broken up. I still think people cannot see that his injuries could have been very extensive and pain meds may have been the only option for him. I still believe he was managing these meds for a long time and something happened to make the stituation worsen.

Pain can make you really crazy and he may have already been dealing with depression and other issues on top of joint problems.

He death may not have been a deliberate suicide could have been just not caring anymore if he went to a rehab what would that have done about joint problems for the long haul.

I also think that Dr. S did write that pain med Rx for Prince and the reason he is not in any trouble could be because of what is in Prince' s medical file. I think the authorities know that if Dr. S was seeing Prince for real illness that his writing a pain script even under someone else's name would be seen as doctor being compassionate and thus no one is going to convict the doctor especially when the drugs that Dr. S prescribed did not result in Prince's death.

I see this as the only reason the doctor and KJ not ever being charged with anything.

[Edited 7/11/17 5:57am]

[Edited 7/11/17 6:00am]

The authorities dont look the other way when a doctor breaks a law. Dr S is not charged with a crime because the authorities cannot prove he broke any laws.

Comment deleted - langebleu - moderator.

This compassion nonsense is bullshit and disrepects every ethical doctor.

moonsister said:

laurarichardson said:

Stevie is in the industry she may be telling the truth about Prince being really broken up. I still think people cannot see that his injuries could have been very extensive and pain meds may have been the only option for him. I still believe he was managing these meds for a long time and something happened to make the stituation worsen.

Pain can make you really crazy and he may have already been dealing with depression and other issues on top of joint problems.

He death may not have been a deliberate suicide could have been just not caring anymore if he went to a rehab what would that have done about joint problems for the long haul.

I also think that Dr. S did write that pain med Rx for Prince and the reason he is not in any trouble could be because of what is in Prince' s medical file. I think the authorities know that if Dr. S was seeing Prince for real illness that his writing a pain script even under someone else's name would be seen as doctor being compassionate and thus no one is going to convict the doctor especially when the drugs that Dr. S prescribed did not result in Prince's death.

I see this as the only reason the doctor and KJ not ever being charged with anything.

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The authorities dont look the other way when a doctor breaks a law. Dr S is not charged with a crime because the authorities cannot prove he broke any laws.

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This compassion nonsense is bullshit and disrepects every ethical doctor.

Hey Moonsister, I know you didn't mean it to come across this way, but compassion and ethics are not mutually exclusive.

alandail said:

Vashtix said:

Do people think Prince was not in pain?

Sure, he was in pain. But it's really unclear if he even knew he was taking fentanyl. The pills he took were counterfeit, and fentanyl was not supposed to be in them at all. It's not a Prince specific issue, counterfeit pills containing fatal doses of fentanyl is a national epedimic.

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Exactly!! People here keep discounting the fact that those pills were illegal/street drugs, and were mislabeled, which makes a lot of us believe that Prince did not know what they actually were, thus the "accidental" overdose.

PennyPurple said:

Again, I don't think he was on the fentanyl, I don't think he knew it was in those pills, and if someone got them for him, I don't think they knew it either. They just thought is was the normal pill.

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Bingo! That is the point that I keep trying to drive here, but some people don't see it that way.