She didn't own the copyright and we all know it. So she can complain all she wants, it's not getting her anywhere.

Purplebflogirl said:

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:

Who has made the mad dash for cash after Prince’s death? You think The Revolution and NPG going on tour is about money? My guess is they’re making very little off these tours.

They are not doing it for free and with exception of Dr.Fink non were working as touring musicians until after Prince died.

These people are musicians,it's what they do for a living.They have every right to make a living performing songs that,in many cases, they themselves were involved in the creation of.

and if some people see it as "cashing in",then so be it.If you were in their shoes,you'd be doing the same thing too!

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

SoulAlive said:

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said: They are not doing it for free and with exception of Dr.Fink non were working as touring musicians until after Prince died.

These people are musicians,it's what they do for a living.They have every right to make a living performing songs that,in many cases, they themselves were involved in the creation of.

I did not say they did not have a right to perform the songs or make a living. I said they are not doing it for free. I recall tickets being on sale to purchase and they appear to have not been working as touring musicians until after P's death this would be an example of cashing.

Some people on this board come down hard on Sheila E despite the fact that she has always had Prince songs like "Love Bizarre" and "Erotic Cityi" in her own shows for years. She never stopped touring but you would think by some reactions on this board she murdered someone when she recorded "America" which you can download for free.

When the Revolution starts doing free concerts and giving recorded songs away for free then they will no longer be cashing him.

laurarichardson said:

SoulAlive said:

These people are musicians,it's what they do for a living.They have every right to make a living performing songs that,in many cases, they themselves were involved in the creation of.

I did not say they did not have a right to perform the songs or make a living. I said they are not doing it for free. I recall tickets being on sale to purchase and they appear to have not been working as touring musicians until after P's death this would be an example of cashing.

Some people on this board come down hard on Sheila E despite the fact that she has always had Prince songs like "Love Bizarre" and "Erotic Cityi" in her own shows for years. She never stopped touring but you would think by some reactions on this board she murdered someone when she recorded "America" which you can download for free.

When the Revolution starts doing free concerts and giving recorded songs away for free then they will no longer be cashing him.

I agree with how wrong it is that people went after Sheila E

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but even if the Revolution did the shows for free(which would be stupid) people have to be paid(lighting, technicians, venues, bus driver etc) People have still accused people of 'Cashing In' by associating Prince's name with it. So it doesn't matter, how it comes across, people will see what they want.

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Wendy & Lisa have always been doing live shows. And as of 2012 My Purple Heart, the band did do First Avenue, and the following year, Dr Fink Bobby Z Dez Andre (and Apollonia) did First Avenue and the following year there was another show, the Revolution was going to do more shows.
Wendy & Lisa and backing band did a few shows with Chaka Khan. The Carnegie Hall Prince tribute. Some Revolution members did shows with the Family. Wendy Sheila E & Lisa (and Susannah) have done joint shows. Bobby Z has been doing more(outside of his business) drumming etc

SoulAlive said:

and if some people see it as "cashing in",then so be it.If you were in their shoes,you'd be doing the same thing too!

Yep people are not realistic. But a country of people looking for handouts, who get an attitude because Sheila E put up a .99cent download and people bitched and moaned, so she gave it for free, and those same people took. and still bitched and moaned.
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Did Morris Day & Jill Jones give theirs away for free? And if not, did they get attacked?

laurarichardson said:

SoulAlive said:

These people are musicians,it's what they do for a living.They have every right to make a living performing songs that,in many cases, they themselves were involved in the creation of.

I did not say they did not have a right to perform the songs or make a living. I said they are not doing it for free. I recall tickets being on sale to purchase and they appear to have not been working as touring musicians until after P's death this would be an example of cashing.

Some people on this board come down hard on Sheila E despite the fact that she has always had Prince songs like "Love Bizarre" and "Erotic Cityi" in her own shows for years. She never stopped touring but you would think by some reactions on this board she murdered someone when she recorded "America" which you can download for free.

When the Revolution starts doing free concerts and giving recorded songs away for free then they will no longer be cashing him.

Touring is expensive. I highly doubt they are making that much money. That's not why the Rev are doing it.

purplethunder3121 said:

laurarichardson said:

I did not say they did not have a right to perform the songs or make a living. I said they are not doing it for free. I recall tickets being on sale to purchase and they appear to have not been working as touring musicians until after P's death this would be an example of cashing.

Some people on this board come down hard on Sheila E despite the fact that she has always had Prince songs like "Love Bizarre" and "Erotic Cityi" in her own shows for years. She never stopped touring but you would think by some reactions on this board she murdered someone when she recorded "America" which you can download for free.

When the Revolution starts doing free concerts and giving recorded songs away for free then they will no longer be cashing him.

Touring is expensive. I highly doubt they are making that much money. That's not why the Rev are doing it.

I recall tickets being on sale to purchase and they appear to have not been working as touring musicians until after P's death this would be an example of cashing.

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

I did not say they did not have a right to perform the songs or make a living. I said they are not doing it for free. I recall tickets being on sale to purchase and they appear to have not been working as touring musicians until after P's death this would be an example of cashing.

Some people on this board come down hard on Sheila E despite the fact that she has always had Prince songs like "Love Bizarre" and "Erotic Cityi" in her own shows for years. She never stopped touring but you would think by some reactions on this board she murdered someone when she recorded "America" which you can download for free.

When the Revolution starts doing free concerts and giving recorded songs away for free then they will no longer be cashing him.

I agree with how wrong it is that people went after Sheila E

.

but even if the Revolution did the shows for free(which would be stupid) people have to be paid(lighting, technicians, venues, bus driver etc) People have still accused people of 'Cashing In' by associating Prince's name with it. So it doesn't matter, how it comes across, people will see what they want.

.

Wendy & Lisa have always been doing live shows. And as of 2012 My Purple Heart, the band did do First Avenue, and the following year, Dr Fink Bobby Z Dez Andre (and Apollonia) did First Avenue and the following year there was another show, the Revolution was going to do more shows.
Wendy & Lisa and backing band did a few shows with Chaka Khan. The Carnegie Hall Prince tribute. Some Revolution members did shows with the Family. Wendy Sheila E & Lisa (and Susannah) have done joint shows. Bobby Z has been doing more(outside of his business) drumming etc

When was the last time W&L were in a touring band on a tour not a one-off show? If I mispell a word the world comes to an end but nosense about W&L can go on here all day. W&L make their money scoring T.V. shows not as touring musicians.

A little over a year ago Mark Brown was advertising his services as a bass player on Facebook.

Only Dr. Fink was in a touring band. I have no issue with people making a living and I do not expect the Revolution to tour for free but stop the nonsense they are not cashing in and getting some attention for themselves. They are not angels with wings coming out of their backsides.

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I agree with how wrong it is that people went after Sheila E

.

but even if the Revolution did the shows for free(which would be stupid) people have to be paid(lighting, technicians, venues, bus driver etc) People have still accused people of 'Cashing In' by associating Prince's name with it. So it doesn't matter, how it comes across, people will see what they want.

.

Wendy & Lisa have always been doing live shows. And as of 2012 My Purple Heart, the band did do First Avenue, and the following year, Dr Fink Bobby Z Dez Andre (and Apollonia) did First Avenue and the following year there was another show, the Revolution was going to do more shows.
Wendy & Lisa and backing band did a few shows with Chaka Khan. The Carnegie Hall Prince tribute. Some Revolution members did shows with the Family. Wendy Sheila E & Lisa (and Susannah) have done joint shows. Bobby Z has been doing more(outside of his business) drumming etc

When was the last time W&L were in a touring band on a tour not a one-off show? If I mispell a word the world comes to an end but nosense about W&L can go on here all day. W&L make their money scoring T.V. shows not as touring musicians.

A little over a year ago Mark Brown was advertising his services as a bass player on Facebook.

Only Dr. Fink was in a touring band. I have no issue with people making a living and I do not expect the Revolution to tour for free but stop the nonsense they are not cashing in and getting some attention for themselves. They are not angels with wings coming out of their backsides.

angels with wings coming out of their backsides? what does that have to do with anything?

They all have families too.

What is the difference if they were in a 'touring' band vs doing performances?

Wendy & Lisa and band w/Chaka Khan Safari Nights 12.2012

they've been doing stuff like this for a while. Lots of people don't 'tour'

They have done after party shows (sometimes with Sheila E) for their completed scores or after award shows

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

When was the last time W&L were in a touring band on a tour not a one-off show? If I mispell a word the world comes to an end but nosense about W&L can go on here all day. W&L make their money scoring T.V. shows not as touring musicians.

A little over a year ago Mark Brown was advertising his services as a bass player on Facebook.

Only Dr. Fink was in a touring band. I have no issue with people making a living and I do not expect the Revolution to tour for free but stop the nonsense they are not cashing in and getting some attention for themselves. They are not angels with wings coming out of their backsides.

angels with wings coming out of their backsides? what does that have to do with anything?

They all have families too.

What is the difference if they were in a 'touring' band vs doing performances?

Wendy & Lisa and band w/Chaka Khan Safari Nights 12.2012

they've been doing stuff like this for a while. Lots of people don't 'tour'

They have done after party shows (sometimes with Sheila E) for their completed scores or after award shows

Because they is the mindset of a few people on this board. Count yourself as one of those people who see wings. One off shows is not being an ongoing touring band.

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

angels with wings coming out of their backsides? what does that have to do with anything?

They all have families too.

What is the difference if they were in a 'touring' band vs doing performances?

Wendy & Lisa and band w/Chaka Khan Safari Nights 12.2012

they've been doing stuff like this for a while. Lots of people don't 'tour'

They have done after party shows (sometimes with Sheila E) for their completed scores or after award shows

Because they is the mindset of a few people on this board. Count yourself as one of those people who see wings. One off shows is not being an ongoing touring band.

wings?

touring or not has nothing to do with anything

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

Because they is the mindset of a few people on this board. Count yourself as one of those people who see wings. One off shows is not being an ongoing touring band.

wings?

touring or not has nothing to do with anything

Of course it does not to you.

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

wings?

touring or not has nothing to do with anything

Of course it does not to you.

and of course it does to you

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

Of course it does not to you.

and of course it does to you

You have comprehension issues you need to deal with.

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

and of course it does to you

You have comprehension issues you need to deal with.

Oh I've comprehended you

laurarichardson said:

crimesofparis said:

laurarichardson said:

This just displays a lack of understanding of how the touring process works. I've worked in live events since about 2009. It is expensive. Period. Many many many tours sell plenty of tickets but lose money because of the cost of staff, gear, shipping your backend, hotels, etc. And the band gets paid last, with whatever is left at the end. It's lucrative for major acts who can sell out major venues. Not so much for bands that can't sell out a 2700 cap Moody Theater. Plus, just from keeping an eye out, it doesn't look like they're getting a ton of promotional support. They have no label to support them, and it doesn't look like Live Nation is doing much to support them, either. You want to know why not all these guys tour all the time? Because it's expensive and they're away from their families. I imagine it's significantly more lucrative for Wendy and Lisa to do their scoring. That's on hold to do this tour. They've said their losing money, and I believe them. If any of the guys tour as a hired gun, he probably makes more doing that since he gets paid a pre-determined wage. That's probably why they no longer have a second guitarist and why they don't have an opener and why there doing these meet and greets and selling merch. And honestly, I'd love to be proven wrong. I hope they're making money.

Once again I do not doubt that they are not getting rich off of this tour but they were not out working as touring musicians until after Prince's passing therefore the sudden need to get out and tour is a stituation were they saw a finaincial opportunity.

Might not be a windfall for then but please do not belive they are not enjoying the attention.

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

They are not doing it for free and with exception of Dr.Fink non were working as touring musicians until after Prince died.

Wait so if Morris Hayes or whomever wasn’t actually on tour before Prince died then going on tour now is cashing in? And anyway that’s not true for Michael Bland who’s been and currently is playing with Soul Asylum. And as others have pointed out they’re probably not making a lot off these tours so it’s silly for anyone to suggest this is about money. [Edited 7/3/17 10:44am]

What is your point? Morris and Michael Bland have been working as touring musicians all along. Most of the Revolution Not.

Genesia said:

Maybe she should have taken this up with Prince when he was alive.

Yeah, but would he have taken any notice? He may have been like - whatever.

OldFriends4Sale said:

crimesofparis said:

laurarichardson said: On the lyric sheet/page does it not say "featuring?" Don't have mine in front of me but that's what I think I saw.

Under CD 1 Apollonia 6:Susan Brenda & Apollonia - patience wisdom & beauty

Jill - love

etc

Take Me With U

(duet with Apollonia)

You can hear Lisa's voice on Take me with u, so it's not really a duet is it? That is called false advertising. The only point in the song when u hear Appollonia is when she says 'thankyou'. Having said that I really like the song, it's my favourite from the Purple Rain album.

Jill always keeps it so real, that I have a hard time believing something's not right if she says it isn't. With that said most credits on Prince albums are wonky and always have been to the point you would think it would have come up as an issue when he was among the living. It seems unfair to bring it up now.

rogifan said:

Denise writes...

“Jill entered into our picture, to sing back up for us. Prince painted her up to resemble Marilyn Monroe. He asked her to dye her hair and at first she hated it. She had an incredible voice, singing like a bird perched in a flower tree. Yet I don’t believe that Prince used her talents to their fullest capabilities. How could anyone blame him though, he handled so many projects at one time.

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She stood behind the black laced curtain and sang for Susan. Susan didn’t sing at all. However Susan crooned to a rap like nobody’s business. She gave the boys something to scream about out there on stage. They fell in love with her long shiny black hair and her adorable little face. She was all of five feet tall and everywhere she went men carried her luggage for her.”

Toban said:

Denise writes...

“Jill entered into our picture, to sing back up for us. Prince painted her up to resemble Marilyn Monroe. He asked her to dye her hair and at first she hated it. She had an incredible voice, singing like a bird perched in a flower tree. Yet I don’t believe that Prince used her talents to their fullest capabilities. How could anyone blame him though, he handled so many projects at one time.

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She stood behind the black laced curtain and sang for Susan. Susan didn’t sing at all. However Susan crooned to a rap like nobody’s business. She gave the boys something to scream about out there on stage. They fell in love with her long shiny black hair and her adorable little face. She was all of five feet tall and everywhere she went men carried her luggage for her.”

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