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Thread started 06/19/17 5:19pm

purplerabbitho
le

another long interview with Sheila?

What is going on with Sheila and the Revolution? There is some awkwardness there...

Many artists continue to honor Prince throughout their performances. What are your thoughts on his actual band The Revolution going on tour to celebrate his music as well?

I don't know, I haven't talked to them. I don't know if they're celebrating his music or not. I have no idea what they're doing. We all have been doing our own thing.

What else would they be celebrating, Sheila? I like some of the stories in this newest one.

But here is the newest interview--

http://www.billboard.com/...-interview

Here is the older one...

http://www.rollingstone.c...es-w486152

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Reply #1 posted 06/20/17 6:16am

laurarichardso
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purplerabbithole said:

What is going on with Sheila and the Revolution? There is some awkwardness there...

Many artists continue to honor Prince throughout their performances. What are your thoughts on his actual band The Revolution going on tour to celebrate his music as well?

I don't know, I haven't talked to them. I don't know if they're celebrating his music or not. I have no idea what they're doing. We all have been doing our own thing.

What else would they be celebrating, Sheila? I like some of the stories in this newest one.

But here is the newest interview--

http://www.billboard.com/...-interview

Here is the older one...

http://www.rollingstone.c...es-w486152

Hey she invited them to be on America and they declined and Mark Brown felt the needed to publize that so I do not expect her to be bright eyed and bushy tailed about them right now.

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Reply #2 posted 06/20/17 7:19am

OldFriends4Sal
e

Or maybe it is as simple as what she said. We can try to read between the lines, but "We all have been doing our own thing" sums it up. It is clear the person asking the question is trying to possible start some shit, and Sheila E did a good job not letting them dump in her space.

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Reply #3 posted 06/20/17 7:39am

purplerabbitho
le

I would like to believe that is the case but for her to say she didn't know if they were celebrating his music...WHAT ELSE WOULD THEY BE DOING? The woman doesn't live under a rock, and would the Revolution have time to do new material of theirs or could they bring in crowds without little red corvette etc.

Wendy in a recent interview: (she picks America and basically states its the Revolutions song--I will just interpret that comment as "Prince and the Revolutions" song but I digress)

Is there a song that you are enjoying a lot more now than you ever did before? “America.” We wrote that song together. There is such a different meaning now with what is happening in the world today, so when we play, it has a different energy. It would be fierce no matter what, but it is fiercer now, and it feels comfortably owned by us on stage

OldFriends4Sale said:

Or maybe it is as simple as what she said. We can try to read between the lines, but "We all have been doing our own thing" sums it up. It is clear the person asking the question is trying to possible start some shit, and Sheila E did a good job not letting them dump in her space.

[Edited 6/20/17 7:41am]

[Edited 6/20/17 7:49am]

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Reply #4 posted 06/20/17 7:47am

OldFriends4Sal
e

My uncle who my younger brother no longer is in touch with because he was caught badmouthing his wife, when I run into him and he asks: so how is Jay doing, I reply with a bit of an attitute "I don't know I guess he is doing good, I don't live with him, if you want to know you can call him"
It is not directed at my brother.

.

Or people who say 'oh tell your mother...' or 'send my love...' etc actually pisses me off. You tell her, you pick up the dam phone if it means that much to you and tell her. I don't send anyones ones love but my own. I don't live with her, you can easily drop by yourself, I might not talk to or see her for another week or two...she might like to see you.

.
Sheila had a similar type reply around the time her book came out, when they asked her things about Prince.

.

They'll work it out.

purplerabbithole said:

I would like to believe that is the case but for her to say she didn't know if they were celebrating his music...WHAT ELSE WOULD THEY BE DOING? The woman doesn't live under a rock, and would the Revolution have time to do new material of theirs or could they bring in crowds without little red corvette etc.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Or maybe it is as simple as what she said. We can try to read between the lines, but "We all have been doing our own thing" sums it up. It is clear the person asking the question is trying to possible start some shit, and Sheila E did a good job not letting them dump in her space.

[Edited 6/20/17 7:41am]

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Reply #5 posted 06/20/17 7:54am

purplerabbitho
le

I re-edited my last post...I think they are fighting about the America song...

According to Wendy, America is the Revolution's song (I chose to interpret that comment as "Prince and the Revolution" song. They must have resented her asking them to back her band. And now she is not wanting to talk about them in interviews.

Musicians' egos...YOu have to admit Prince wasn't the only one who had one.

Wendy:::

Is there a song that you are enjoying a lot more now than you ever did before? “America.” We wrote that song together. There is such a different meaning now with what is happening in the world today, so when we play, it has a different energy. It would be fierce no matter what, but it is fiercer now, and it feels comfortably owned by us on stage.

OldFriends4Sale said:

My uncle who my younger brother no longer is in touch with because he was caught badmouthing his wife, when I run into him and he asks: so how is Jay doing, I reply with a bit of an attitute "I don't know I guess he is doing good, I don't live with him, if you want to know you can call him"
It is not directed at my brother.

Or people who say 'oh tell your mother...' or 'send my love...' etc actually pisses me off. You tell her, you pick the dam phone up if it means that much to you and tell her. I don't send no ones love but my own. I don't live with her, you can easily drop by yourself, I might not talk to or see her for another week or two...

.
Sheila had a similar type reply around the time her book came out, when they asked her things about Prince.

.

They'll work it out.

purplerabbithole said:

I would like to believe that is the case but for her to say she didn't know if they were celebrating his music...WHAT ELSE WOULD THEY BE DOING? The woman doesn't live under a rock, and would the Revolution have time to do new material of theirs or could they bring in crowds without little red corvette etc.

[Edited 6/20/17 7:41am]

[Edited 6/20/17 7:55am]

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Reply #6 posted 06/20/17 8:05am

OldFriends4Sal
e

Sheila E has a big ego too

Because of her 'frontman' place with Prince

even during the 1987-1988 period there are people in the camp who said Sheila E expected to be treated on the same level of Prince. So I always heard of that, and her issues with Cat. And Sheila E herself saying she is very competitive. She loves sports too. So I can see how it can get all mixed up in there. We all have ego. Someone who doesn't in my opinion is broken.

There was not real issue, but earlier this year, when She and Morris were doing some Charities and he backed out of a show, in an interview following she rushed head long in replying indirectly to Morris not being there. And I don't think it was intentional, but she basically said "___ you know I will be there no matter what to support, I don't know what is happening with Morris..."

Similar to this interview. And it could have easily come off as some ego tripping trouble.

.

Yes they all have some ego. And they should. But respect has to balance it all out.

.

And I'm sorry but I get the Revolution point of view... the Award for Purple Rain at the show, and Bruno Mars... I get it.

purplerabbithole said:

I re-edited my last post...I think they are fighting about the America song...

According to Wendy, America is the Revolution's song (I chose to interpret that comment as "Prince and the Revolution" song. They must have resented her asking them to back her band. And now she is not wanting to talk about them in interviews.

Musicians' egos...YOu have to admit Prince wasn't the only one who had one.

Wendy:::

Is there a song that you are enjoying a lot more now than you ever did before? “America.” We wrote that song together. There is such a different meaning now with what is happening in the world today, so when we play, it has a different energy. It would be fierce no matter what, but it is fiercer now, and it feels comfortably owned by us on stage.

[Edited 6/20/17 7:55am]

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Reply #7 posted 06/20/17 8:19am

rogifan

See this is why I like the later musicians he worked with. Much less drama and fewer egos. lol
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Reply #8 posted 06/20/17 8:28am

OldFriends4Sal
e

rogifan said:

See this is why I like the later musicians he worked with. Much less drama and fewer egos. lol

Well we don't know everything yet.

Time needs to open up issues if there.

It is usually time that reveals

Or there was less investment.

I think the 1981-1987 period required more drama and ego...that's part of what made it great.

I mean even with Prince a lot of the stuff that drove people wild(good and bad) back then is why we also like him so much, it turned into something latter in life, but it is what it is lol

.

may I ask , do you buy/follow the later musicians music etc?

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Reply #9 posted 06/20/17 8:34am

purplerabbitho
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No doubt they ALL have egos But I wish they would cut out the "we wrote that song together" shit and its better than it has ever sounded. The "we" they are talking about is presumably Prince and the Revolution---the current "we" doesn't include him. As tight as the playing is in on America now, it is lacking the lead singer and presumably the lyricist.

Remember Jesus is the reason for season...LOL. NOt saying Prince is Jesus literally, but he is the component that ties all this shit together.

The award for Purple Rain without the Revolution--yeah, that sucked. I am not sure why a Bruno Mars cover would be an insult to them. If they perform When Doves Cry (a song he did alone in the studio), arent' they kind of doing a cover themselves. PLus, the Bruno Mars performance was a joke and would have just been an embarrasment to the Revolution to be a part of. They should count their lucky stars they were smart enough to avoid that cheap Vegas Act (and I like Bruno Mars normally).

OldFriends4Sale said:

Sheila E has a big ego too

Because of her 'frontman' place with Prince

even during the 1987-1988 period there are people in the camp who said Sheila E expected to be treated on the same level of Prince. So I always heard of that, and her issues with Cat. And Sheila E herself saying she is very competitive. She loves sports too. So I can see how it can get all mixed up in there. We all have ego. Someone who doesn't in my opinion is broken.

There was not real issue, but earlier this year, when She and Morris were doing some Charities and he backed out of a show, in an interview following she rushed head long in replying indirectly to Morris not being there. And I don't think it was intentional, but she basically said "___ you know I will be there no matter what to support, I don't know what is happening with Morris..."

Similar to this interview. And it could have easily come off as some ego tripping trouble.

.

Yes they all have some ego. And they should. But respect has to balance it all out.

.

And I'm sorry but I get the Revolution point of view... the Award for Purple Rain at the show, and Bruno Mars... I get it.

purplerabbithole said:

I re-edited my last post...I think they are fighting about the America song...

According to Wendy, America is the Revolution's song (I chose to interpret that comment as "Prince and the Revolution" song. They must have resented her asking them to back her band. And now she is not wanting to talk about them in interviews.

Musicians' egos...YOu have to admit Prince wasn't the only one who had one.

Wendy:::

[Edited 6/20/17 7:55am]

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Reply #10 posted 06/20/17 8:39am

OldFriends4Sal
e

Naw they don't have to cut it out.
If they let things proceed as have, like the whole 'Sheila / the Time are not Relevant' thing with the Billboard awards, will have key important people off on the sidelines while Beyonce Rhianna and Justin Beiber do the music

.

I don't think it was an insult, but it was a real tribute that if your doing those songs for that album,... I think the genuiness of it would have meant more 2 have them do do the show. The Time was there. So why not.

purplerabbithole said:

No doubt they ALL have egos But I wish they would cut out the "we wrote that song together" shit and its better than it has ever sounded. The "we" they are talking about is presumably Prince and the Revolution---the current "we" doesn't include him. As tight as the playing is in on America now, it is lacking the lead singer and presumably the lyricist.

Remember Jesus is the reason for season...LOL. NOt saying Prince is Jesus literally, but he is the component that ties all this shit together.

The award for Purple Rain without the Revolution--yeah, that sucked. I am not sure why a Bruno Mars cover would be an insult to them. If they perform When Doves Cry (a song he did alone in the studio), arent' they kind of doing a cover themselves. PLus, the Bruno Mars performance was a joke and would have just been an embarrasment to the Revolution to be a part of. They should count their lucky stars they were smart enough to avoid that cheap Vegas Act (and I like Bruno Mars normally).

OldFriends4Sale said:

Sheila E has a big ego too

Because of her 'frontman' place with Prince

even during the 1987-1988 period there are people in the camp who said Sheila E expected to be treated on the same level of Prince. So I always heard of that, and her issues with Cat. And Sheila E herself saying she is very competitive. She loves sports too. So I can see how it can get all mixed up in there. We all have ego. Someone who doesn't in my opinion is broken.

There was not real issue, but earlier this year, when She and Morris were doing some Charities and he backed out of a show, in an interview following she rushed head long in replying indirectly to Morris not being there. And I don't think it was intentional, but she basically said "___ you know I will be there no matter what to support, I don't know what is happening with Morris..."

Similar to this interview. And it could have easily come off as some ego tripping trouble.

.

Yes they all have some ego. And they should. But respect has to balance it all out.

.

And I'm sorry but I get the Revolution point of view... the Award for Purple Rain at the show, and Bruno Mars... I get it.

[Edited 6/20/17 7:55am]

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Reply #11 posted 06/20/17 8:48am

rogifan

OldFriends4Sale said:



rogifan said:


See this is why I like the later musicians he worked with. Much less drama and fewer egos. lol


Well we don't know everything yet.


Time needs to open up issues if there.


It is usually time that reveals


Or there was less investment.


I think the 1981-1987 period required more drama and ego...that's part of what made it great.


I mean even with Prince a lot of the stuff that drove people wild(good and bad) back then is why we also like him so much, it turned into something latter in life, but it is what it is lol


.


may I ask , do you buy/follow the later musicians music etc?


I follow but don't buy as much. Though I did buy Adrian and Shelby's CDs as I know they're mostly doing this through self-financing, no big record deal and all that comes with it. They're both good too.
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Reply #12 posted 06/20/17 8:54am

OldFriends4Sal
e

rogifan said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Well we don't know everything yet.

Time needs to open up issues if there.

It is usually time that reveals

Or there was less investment.

I think the 1981-1987 period required more drama and ego...that's part of what made it great.

I mean even with Prince a lot of the stuff that drove people wild(good and bad) back then is why we also like him so much, it turned into something latter in life, but it is what it is lol

.

may I ask , do you buy/follow the later musicians music etc?

I follow but don't buy as much. Though I did buy Adrian and Shelby's CDs as I know they're mostly doing this through self-financing, no big record deal and all that comes with it. They're both good too.

yeah music and the buying experience is so different now.

I buy a lot of songs. I do support people that way no matter what.
I buy a lot of classic period music albums/cds from like the 70s 80s early 90s

or particular artists I buy no matter what

.

That is why I hope the 'estate' opens their ears and gets a feel of what we really want.

I'll put serious money down on good booklett cd/dvd set

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Reply #13 posted 06/20/17 8:54am

rogifan

purplerabbithole said:

No doubt they ALL have egos But I wish they would cut out the "we wrote that song together" shit and its better than it has ever sounded. The "we" they are talking about is presumably Prince and the Revolution---the current "we" doesn't include him. As tight as the playing is in on America now, it is lacking the lead singer and presumably the lyricist.



Remember Jesus is the reason for season...LOL. NOt saying Prince is Jesus literally, but he is the component that ties all this shit together.



The award for Purple Rain without the Revolution--yeah, that sucked. I am not sure why a Bruno Mars cover would be an insult to them. If they perform When Doves Cry (a song he did alone in the studio), arent' they kind of doing a cover themselves. PLus, the Bruno Mars performance was a joke and would have just been an embarrasment to the Revolution to be a part of. They should count their lucky stars they were smart enough to avoid that cheap Vegas Act (and I like Bruno Mars normally).


The Grammys should have just had the Revolution perform and not Bruno Mars. But at the same time I'm sick of Prince being reduced to the Purple Rain era. But you are right. Prince was the glue that held everything together.

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Reply #14 posted 06/20/17 10:05am

purplerabbitho
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They should stake their claim. And you may not believe this, but that AMA award felt kind of embarassing to me because a.) everyone probably just assumed he got it because he died and b.) I imagine Wendy, Lisa, Mark, Dr. Fink and Bobby going "What the fuck?" The award body's lack of knowledge about Prince and the Revolution's history is not a tribute to PRince at all because it seems disingenuous if it ignores his history in full. It seems insincere.

All I am saying is the Revolution should watch their wording because it would be easy for newbies to think that Prince had nothing to do with the song America. "We wrote it" includes PRince and that should be made clear. I know you think I am being too defensive of Prince's legacy but keep in mind, that you have been a fan for years. PEople just learning about Prince are not going to know the details. They will hear "we wrote this" and they will think the "We" are the people currently touring and that PRince was just their lead singer 30 years ago. Its like when someone shatters a myth. They hear hyperbolic tributes to PRince, see AMA's awards only to PRince and then stumble upon an article about the Revolution tour and Wendy saying we wrote that song. NOw, the newbie is thinking well Prince is overrated, his backing band wrote all his songs, and he was just the lead singer. That's the kind of knee jerk reaction culture we live in. I have followed this kind of pop culture crap for years. I used to follow the OScars pretty closely..and acclaimed actors go from the greatest thing in the world to preceived as over-rated in a split second (Christian Bale, Jared Leto, Sean Penn etc).

OldFriends4Sale said:

Naw they don't have to cut it out.
If they let things proceed as have, like the whole 'Sheila / the Time are not Relevant' thing with the Billboard awards, will have key important people off on the sidelines while Beyonce Rhianna and Justin Beiber do the music

.

I don't think it was an insult, but it was a real tribute that if your doing those songs for that album,... I think the genuiness of it would have meant more 2 have them do do the show. The Time was there. So why not.

purplerabbithole said:

No doubt they ALL have egos But I wish they would cut out the "we wrote that song together" shit and its better than it has ever sounded. The "we" they are talking about is presumably Prince and the Revolution---the current "we" doesn't include him. As tight as the playing is in on America now, it is lacking the lead singer and presumably the lyricist.

Remember Jesus is the reason for season...LOL. NOt saying Prince is Jesus literally, but he is the component that ties all this shit together.

The award for Purple Rain without the Revolution--yeah, that sucked. I am not sure why a Bruno Mars cover would be an insult to them. If they perform When Doves Cry (a song he did alone in the studio), arent' they kind of doing a cover themselves. PLus, the Bruno Mars performance was a joke and would have just been an embarrasment to the Revolution to be a part of. They should count their lucky stars they were smart enough to avoid that cheap Vegas Act (and I like Bruno Mars normally).

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Reply #15 posted 06/20/17 10:54am

OldFriends4Sal
e

I agree about the AMA award.

I get you. But you can be on the mark to know that when they say that that that mean Prince & the Revolution.

the opposite side and it is probably more prevailent is that 'Prince Did Everything' and there are too many people who believe that. There are more people who say that than say that believing the hype. Not until recently did many people find out Morris Day actually played drums on a lot of the Time songs as well as the extended version of Let's Work. Some still don't.

purplerabbithole said:

They should stake their claim. And you may not believe this, but that AMA award felt kind of embarassing to me because a.) everyone probably just assumed he got it because he died and b.) I imagine Wendy, Lisa, Mark, Dr. Fink and Bobby going "What the fuck?" The award body's lack of knowledge about Prince and the Revolution's history is not a tribute to PRince at all because it seems disingenuous if it ignores his history in full. It seems insincere.

All I am saying is the Revolution should watch their wording because it would be easy for newbies to think that Prince had nothing to do with the song America. "We wrote it" includes PRince and that should be made clear. I know you think I am being too defensive of Prince's legacy but keep in mind, that you have been a fan for years. PEople just learning about Prince are not going to know the details. They will hear "we wrote this" and they will think the "We" are the people currently touring and that PRince was just their lead singer 30 years ago. Its like when someone shatters a myth. They hear hyperbolic tributes to PRince, see AMA's awards only to PRince and then stumble upon an article about the Revolution tour and Wendy saying we wrote that song. NOw, the newbie is thinking well Prince is overrated, his backing band wrote all his songs, and he was just the lead singer. That's the kind of knee jerk reaction culture we live in. I have followed this kind of pop culture crap for years. I used to follow the OScars pretty closely..and acclaimed actors go from the greatest thing in the world to preceived as over-rated in a split second (Christian Bale, Jared Leto, Sean Penn etc).

OldFriends4Sale said:

Naw they don't have to cut it out.
If they let things proceed as have, like the whole 'Sheila / the Time are not Relevant' thing with the Billboard awards, will have key important people off on the sidelines while Beyonce Rhianna and Justin Beiber do the music

.

I don't think it was an insult, but it was a real tribute that if your doing those songs for that album,... I think the genuiness of it would have meant more 2 have them do do the show. The Time was there. So why not.

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Reply #16 posted 06/20/17 11:19am

laurarichardso
n

OldFriends4Sale said:

I agree about the AMA award.

I get you. But you can be on the mark to know that when they say that that that mean Prince & the Revolution.

the opposite side and it is probably more prevailent is that 'Prince Did Everything' and there are too many people who believe that. There are more people who say that than say that believing the hype. Not until recently did many people find out Morris Day actually played drums on a lot of the Time songs as well as the extended version of Let's Work. Some still don't.

purplerabbithole said:

They should stake their claim. And you may not believe this, but that AMA award felt kind of embarassing to me because a.) everyone probably just assumed he got it because he died and b.) I imagine Wendy, Lisa, Mark, Dr. Fink and Bobby going "What the fuck?" The award body's lack of knowledge about Prince and the Revolution's history is not a tribute to PRince at all because it seems disingenuous if it ignores his history in full. It seems insincere.

All I am saying is the Revolution should watch their wording because it would be easy for newbies to think that Prince had nothing to do with the song America. "We wrote it" includes PRince and that should be made clear. I know you think I am being too defensive of Prince's legacy but keep in mind, that you have been a fan for years. PEople just learning about Prince are not going to know the details. They will hear "we wrote this" and they will think the "We" are the people currently touring and that PRince was just their lead singer 30 years ago. Its like when someone shatters a myth. They hear hyperbolic tributes to PRince, see AMA's awards only to PRince and then stumble upon an article about the Revolution tour and Wendy saying we wrote that song. NOw, the newbie is thinking well Prince is overrated, his backing band wrote all his songs, and he was just the lead singer. That's the kind of knee jerk reaction culture we live in. I have followed this kind of pop culture crap for years. I used to follow the OScars pretty closely..and acclaimed actors go from the greatest thing in the world to preceived as over-rated in a split second (Christian Bale, Jared Leto, Sean Penn etc).

Plenty of people knew about Morris's drumming as Prince said he was the best drummer he ever had and it was known that he played the drums on some of Prince's music. He is on Colreen Bacon skin.

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Reply #17 posted 06/20/17 11:37am

OldFriends4Sal
e

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I agree about the AMA award.

I get you. But you can be on the mark to know that when they say that that that mean Prince & the Revolution.

the opposite side and it is probably more prevailent is that 'Prince Did Everything' and there are too many people who believe that. There are more people who say that than say that believing the hype. Not until recently did many people find out Morris Day actually played drums on a lot of the Time songs as well as the extended version of Let's Work. Some still don't.

Plenty of people knew about Morris's drumming as Prince said he was the best drummer he ever had and it was known that he played the drums on some of Prince's music. He is on Colreen Bacon skin.

plenty of people, but a lot of people still had the 'Prince did everything' when it came to the Time albums. And not until Jesse Johnson a few years ago did people know about some the Ice Cream Castle sessions stuff. A lot fans don't know of Cloreen Bacon Skin. Since it wasn't tied to one of the 3 albums and a 1990 cRystal bAll release no longer officially available.

.

Prince said that thing about Morris as a drum only recently. And most people have never seen Morris Day actually play drums, so it is not at the forefront of peoples minds that he plays.
I know in the last few years he's been hitting the skins while Jellybean takes he guitar, but I don't know if he's been drumming live before.

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laurarichardso
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OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

Plenty of people knew about Morris's drumming as Prince said he was the best drummer he ever had and it was known that he played the drums on some of Prince's music. He is on Colreen Bacon skin.

plenty of people, but a lot of people still had the 'Prince did everything' when it came to the Time albums. And not until Jesse Johnson a few years ago did people know about some the Ice Cream Castle sessions stuff. A lot fans don't know of Cloreen Bacon Skin. Since it wasn't tied to one of the 3 albums and a 1990 cRystal bAll release no longer officially available.

.

Prince said that thing about Morris as a drum only recently. And most people have never seen Morris Day actually play drums, so it is not at the forefront of peoples minds that he plays.
I know in the last few years he's been hitting the skins while Jellybean takes he guitar, but I don't know if he's been drumming live before.

Old heads know what is going on and you can go to Tidal and listen and periodically Crystal Ball pops up on Tidal so you can purchase it.

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OldFriends4Sal
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laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

plenty of people, but a lot of people still had the 'Prince did everything' when it came to the Time albums. And not until Jesse Johnson a few years ago did people know about some the Ice Cream Castle sessions stuff. A lot fans don't know of Cloreen Bacon Skin. Since it wasn't tied to one of the 3 albums and a 1990 cRystal bAll release no longer officially available.

.

Prince said that thing about Morris as a drum only recently. And most people have never seen Morris Day actually play drums, so it is not at the forefront of peoples minds that he plays.
I know in the last few years he's been hitting the skins while Jellybean takes he guitar, but I don't know if he's been drumming live before.

Old heads know what is going on and you can go to Tidal and listen and periodically Crystal Ball pops up on Tidal so you can purchase it.

Right, U mean hardcore fans. But that is not general information. Articles and news feeds tend to draw much more than the hardcore fans. Most people don't know about Crystal Ball or Cloreen Bacon Skin.

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Reply #20 posted 06/20/17 5:06pm

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The video for America suxs. She looks stupid wearing a bird mask.

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Reply #21 posted 06/21/17 10:30pm

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PennyPurple said:

The video for America suxs. She looks stupid wearing a bird mask.


She looks stupid parading around saying she was Prince's true love (uh heifer, he married twice, and you weren't it either time; he proposed marriage to a few folks too, so that ain't special either), and that she knew him better than anyone (sit down), and getting that damn tattoo w/ the symbol & butterfly, then plastering it on everything. I'ma say it again - I'm surprised she hasn't changed her name to the symbol with the butterfly.

God Jesus and baby Jesus - we get it. You knew Prince. Get over yourself, Sheila. Honestly - you are one in a long line of little pretties.

She could take a note from Susannah, Mayte, Manuela, Jill - anyone who hasn't went around waving a purple flag, covered a purple song, booked a purple cruise, wrote a purple tribute song, is producing a purple tribute album, and just being fucking chill.

Needless to say, that mask is the least on the list of stupid things.

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"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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  • Yeah, Sheila is gawdy and attention grabbing and super ambitious and probably has always been those things. Yeah, she is probably annoying as hell to the Revolution (who probably worked harder and got less attention). BUt what's in her heart we don't know and nothing she has done or said about Prince has hurt his legacy. When in hell did she ever say she was his true love? She said it was romantic at one point and turned into a friendship that had its ups and downs. She said she loved him and wrote some sentimental song about him (that is just as romanticized as Jill's was). BUt 'true love' as in a 30 year romantic relationship...come on. She never said that. She is playing (for the most part) the same songs she played when he was alive. It is drenched in purple now and she is making a bit more money (but maybe she justifies it in her head by saying Prince would want something good to come out of it. He didn't seem to mind her exploiting her connection to him when he was alive.) But really her song about Prince was really inexpensive and she eventually gave it away for free.
  • Unlike Susannah, Mayte, Manuela or Jill, she actually did get to see and work with Prince after her brief romance with him cooled. (Well, I guess Prince did call Susannah at one point close to the end)> Sheila wrote about Prince when he was still alive and he never slammed her with a cease and desist or called her out for it. LIke Mayte, she has a tattoo with his symbol on it.. Unlike Mayte, her book was released when he was alive. Sheila knows how to work the press but it doesn't mean she didn't care for Prince. Why is it that the people who have little bad to say about Prince and who were out there making sure his legacy continued are immediately dismissed as merely exploitative just because they happen to want a little attention for their career. She exploited him when he was alive. Now, she is just more sentimental while doing it. But people can carry more than one thought in their head at the same time..(they can exploit and they can love and it can be platonic and messy). Would you believe Sheila more if she wrote down a litany of his flaws and never did any kind of tributes to Prince?

  • I was just watching a movie called Jackie about legacies. Jackie Kennedy, of course, was legitimately the wife of JFK. But many people around her were dumbfounded by how she reacted to his death by insisting on the most OTT funeral procession ever. They didn't get it. Some even doubted her sincerity (thinking it was careless, dangerous for her children and inappropriate--she should be home quietly mourning is what they thought). Then, the movie revealed a really interesting thing. The funeral procession was less for her children, for John, or even for the country than it was for herself. It was for herself because she had such horrible survivor's guilt that she was partially hoping someone would gun her down on the street during the procession. I am not saying Sheila had survivor's guilt or anything like that. I am not even saying she wasn't exploiting PRince. I am saying maybe continuing to work on her career was how she handled the death of a man who had been in her life of and on for 40 years. How could she not care about him..Was he that unlovable? She had talked to him within the year and had worked with him as recently as 2011. Mayte had barely talked to man since 1999. All these women have been frustrated, conflicted, loving and exploiting Prince for years. But Sheila and Prince hooked up so many times in a working relationship that the bond had to have been there even if it was imperfect or a bit opportunistic. And at least Sheila hasn't done anything that could overshadow his legacy or harm it. Some of these other women have come dangerously close to doing so (even if it wasn't entirely their intention).

  • I swear if one more person dismisses these living, working, feeling and creative women as whores in a harem just because they happen to find Prince enticing, I am going to scream. I am not sure I like all the shit that's gone down with some of these women but they weren't paid prostitutes. Its not that simple.
  • Everyone gives the Revolution the benefit of the doubt because they are less tacky and sentimental about Prince. But they aren't exactly doing tributes that feature Prince songs they were uninvolved in and they love getting their credit. All these people want their credit (including Susannah for Starfish and Coffee) When you get down to it, why are they much different than Sheila? And Prince worked more frequently with Sheila than Mark Brown, that's for sure. What did Prince get out of working with Sheila. He was already famous. IF he wanted to just exploit his old associations for sentimental reasons, he would have toured with the Revolution again. Prince was not that sentimental.

TrivialPursuit said:

PennyPurple said:

The video for America suxs. She looks stupid wearing a bird mask.


She looks stupid parading around saying she was Prince's true love (uh heifer, he married twice, and you weren't it either time; he proposed marriage to a few folks too, so that ain't special either), and that she knew him better than anyone (sit down), and getting that damn tattoo w/ the symbol & butterfly, then plastering it on everything. I'ma say it again - I'm surprised she hasn't changed her name to the symbol with the butterfly.

God Jesus and baby Jesus - we get it. You knew Prince. Get over yourself, Sheila. Honestly - you are one in a long line of little pretties.

She could take a note from Susannah, Mayte, Manuela, Jill - anyone who hasn't went around waving a purple flag, covered a purple song, booked a purple cruise, wrote a purple tribute song, is producing a purple tribute album, and just being fucking chill.

Needless to say, that mask is the least on the list of stupid things.

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TrivialPursuit said:

PennyPurple said:

The video for America suxs. She looks stupid wearing a bird mask.


She looks stupid parading around saying she was Prince's true love (uh heifer, he married twice, and you weren't it either time; he proposed marriage to a few folks too, so that ain't special either), and that she knew him better than anyone (sit down), and getting that damn tattoo w/ the symbol & butterfly, then plastering it on everything. I'ma say it again - I'm surprised she hasn't changed her name to the symbol with the butterfly.

God Jesus and baby Jesus - we get it. You knew Prince. Get over yourself, Sheila. Honestly - you are one in a long line of little pretties.

She could take a note from Susannah, Mayte, Manuela, Jill - anyone who hasn't went around waving a purple flag, covered a purple song, booked a purple cruise, wrote a purple tribute song, is producing a purple tribute album, and just being fucking chill.

Needless to say, that mask is the least on the list of stupid things.

[Edited 6/21/17 22:31pm]

You said that perfectly. biggrin

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TrivialPursuit said:

PennyPurple said:

The video for America suxs. She looks stupid wearing a bird mask.


She looks stupid parading around saying she was Prince's true love (uh heifer, he married twice, and you weren't it either time; he proposed marriage to a few folks too, so that ain't special either), and that she knew him better than anyone (sit down), and getting that damn tattoo w/ the symbol & butterfly, then plastering it on everything. I'ma say it again - I'm surprised she hasn't changed her name to the symbol with the butterfly.

God Jesus and baby Jesus - we get it. You knew Prince. Get over yourself, Sheila. Honestly - you are one in a long line of little pretties.

She could take a note from Susannah, Mayte, Manuela, Jill - anyone who hasn't went around waving a purple flag, covered a purple song, booked a purple cruise, wrote a purple tribute song, is producing a purple tribute album, and just being fucking chill.

Needless to say, that mask is the least on the list of stupid things.

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Mayte- This chick wrote a book exposing him at the worst time in his life and waited until he was dead to do it. Are you for real with this comment.

Sheila kicked ass on that BET tribute. Where the fuck was the Revolution? The cruise was booked before Prince died, and the songs were fucking free.

We get you and a few others. The Becky's are free to speak and the women that knew him for 40 years need to go and sit back down. Do you even know how you come off?

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^^And here we go again, another thread that has now turned into Mayte bashing......Imagine that.

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PennyPurple said:

^^And here we go again, another thread that has now turned into Mayte bashing......Imagine that.

I did not bring her up Trival Pursit did. You do not want anyone to question anything about her on this board and that is not going to happen. So you need to get over it.You do not get to control my responses or post. Who is stalking who now?

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Reply #27 posted 06/22/17 5:39am

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PennyPurple said:

^^And here we go again, another thread that has now turned into Mayte bashing......Imagine that.

I did not bring her up Trival Pursit did. You do not want anyone to question anything about her on this board and that is not going to happen. So you need to get over it.You do not get to control my responses or post. Who is stalking who now?

You had my post in your reply...............


I could care less if anybody brings her up, as long as it's on the correct topic and bring her up to discuss something within the topic is fine. Bringing her up as you did to bash her, when the topic isn't even about her, is getting a bit much. Let's try to stay on topic.

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Reply #28 posted 06/22/17 6:20am

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PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

I did not bring her up Trival Pursit did. You do not want anyone to question anything about her on this board and that is not going to happen. So you need to get over it.You do not get to control my responses or post. Who is stalking who now?

You had my post in your reply...............


I could care less if anybody brings her up, as long as it's on the correct topic and bring her up to discuss something within the topic is fine. Bringing her up as you did to bash her, when the topic isn't even about her, is getting a bit much. Let's try to stay on topic.

But it is not your job to tell anyone anything at all. If she gets bashed she gets bashed. She is a grown ass women she can take it.

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Reply #29 posted 06/22/17 6:29am

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Create a thread for the Mayte bashing then. Who cares. Just stop bringing her into threads that have nothing to do with her. Can we not stay on topic on anything?

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