what a great thread.
Posters who who whine incessently about the most petty stuff, never had a moment of contact with Prince, calling Dez a whiner.
It doesn't get better than this.

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

Well I made a mistake. Let the world stop spinning. I realize that I should have taken the time to read what you typed better but on the real tip most of what you contribute is really not that important.

Mister Manners @ Work

Yall dont ever give her any warnings? No wonder she's so brazen.

laurarichardson said:

rdhull said:

Im talking about Prince, genius.

Well I made a mistake. Let the world stop spinning. I realize that I should have taken the time to read what you typed better but on the real tip most of what you contribute is really not that important.

I bet you type with your hands balled in a fist.

rdhull said:

laurarichardson said:

Well I made a mistake. Let the world stop spinning. I realize that I should have taken the time to read what you typed better but on the real tip most of what you contribute is really not that important.

I bet you type with your hands balled in a fist.

OldFriends4Sale said:

rdhull said:

I bet you type with your hands balled in a fist.

yup!

If u were Prince and Vanity was your girlfriend u would want 2 share a tour bus with her too. They wanted 2 be together and lusting 4 each other - understandable. I never knew that Brenda did not get on with Vanity, I thought they were mates!

OldFriends4Sale said:

rdhull said:

I bet you type with your hands balled in a fist.

luvgirl said:

laurarichardson is secretly my hero...

jungleluv said:

Vashtix said:

jungleluv said:

If u were Prince and Vanity was your girlfriend u would want 2 share a tour bus with her too. They wanted 2 be together and lusting 4 each other - understandable. I never knew that Brenda did not get on with Vanity, I thought they were mates!

If Prince had a tour bus with kyst him and Vanity sounds like they spe tbtine together judtbthem. Alex Hahn said Prince hsry spent time with her and it was just flr show.

Huh?

Vashtix said:

If Prince had a tour bus with just him and Vanity sounds like they spent time together just them. Alex Hahn said Prince spent no time with her and it was just all for show Vanity being his Girlfriend. [Edited 6/21/17 15:03pm]

Did we read the same book? Because that's not what Alex Hahn said.

He said, the relationship between P & Vanity which began amid a glow of sexual chemsitry, soon became combustible because P continued to see other women, Jill Jones and Susan Moonsie amoung them which made Vanity jealous. As P got to know Vanity, the less he liked her because he found her abrasive.

At that same time, the band felt distanced from P, Dez was the one who was most disgruntled. Prince traveled on his own bus, accompanied by Huntsberry, Fargnoli and a member of his growing harem of girlfriends.

PennyPurple said:

Vashtix said:

jungleluv said:

If u were Prince and Vanity was your girlfriend u would want 2 share a tour bus with her too. They wanted 2 be together and lusting 4 each other - understandable. I never knew that Brenda did not get on with Vanity, I thought they were mates!

If Prince had a tour bus with just him and Vanity sounds like they spent time together just them. Alex Hahn said Prince spent no time with her and it was just all for show Vanity being his Girlfriend. [Edited 6/21/17 15:03pm]

Lawd, puhleez don't tell me that the implication was that V was P's "beard"...Cuz I ain't buyin that for even the briefest of seconds...

[Edited 6/21/17 16:09pm]

Vashtix said:

PennyPurple said:

Did we read the same book? Because that's not what Alex Hahn said.

He said, the relationship between P & Vanity which began amid a glow of sexual chemsitry, soon became combustible because P continued to see other women, Jill Jones and Susan Moonsie amoung them which made Vanity jealous. As P got to know Vanity, the less he liked her because he found her abrasive.

At that same time, the band felt distanced from P, Dez was the one who was most disgruntled. Prince traveled on his own bus, accompanied by Huntsberry, Fargnoli and a member of his growing harem of girlfriends.

I read the book. So yeah I think Alex Hahn was not truthful.

How would it benefit him to not be truthful where Vanity is concerned? What's his motive? Even in Hahn's book it was noted that Dez was disgruntled.

luvgirl said:

Genesia said:

jungleluv said:

Vashtix said:

rdhull said:

LBrent said:

Vashtix said:

jungleluv said: If Prince had a tour bus with just him and Vanity sounds like they spent time together just them. Alex Hahn said Prince spent no time with her and it was just all for show Vanity being his Girlfriend. [Edited 6/21/17 15:03pm]

Lawd, puhleez don't tell me that the implication was that V was P's "beard"...Cuz I ain't buyin that for even the briefest of seconds...

[Edited 6/21/17 16:09pm]

I amnot either but it appears there a group a people around Prince during the 80s who to this day discount Vanity's presence in the camp. They push others as muse and inspiration at the time. If Prince had not himself came out and shared certain things I would have thought Vanity was nothing but a passing in the night for him. New information keeps emerging to prove what these people have put out all these years and I believed to be true was not true because for whatever reason they carried a bias toward someone else besides Vanity.

Vashtix said:

LBrent said:

Lawd, puhleez don't tell me that the implication was that V was P's "beard"...Cuz I ain't buyin that for even the briefest of seconds...

[Edited 6/21/17 16:09pm]

I amnot either but it appears there a group a people around Prince during the 80s who to this day discount Vanity's presence in the camp. They push others as muse and inspiration at the time. If Prince had not himself came out and shared certain things I would have thought Vanity was nothing but a passing in the night for him. New information keeps emerging to prove what these people have put out all these years and I believed to be true was not true because for whatever reason they carried a bias toward someone else besides Vanity.

I agree with you that people discount Vanity, but WHY? That's what I'm not getting. I don't get why?

Vashtix said:

LBrent said:

Lawd, puhleez don't tell me that the implication was that V was P's "beard"...Cuz I ain't buyin that for even the briefest of seconds...

[Edited 6/21/17 16:09pm]

I amnot either but it appears there a group a people around Prince during the 80s who to this day discount Vanity's presence in the camp. They push others as muse and inspiration at the time. If Prince had not himself came out and shared certain things I would have thought Vanity was nothing but a passing in the night for him. New information keeps emerging to prove what these people have put out all these years and I believed to be true was not true because for whatever reason they carried a bias toward someone else besides Vanity.

Because they are a bunch of morons. Anytime you discount comments that came out of his own mouth about her it is simply being a moronic. Vanitiy does not fit the narrative they want to weave even if the narrative has no basis in reality.

PennyPurple said:

Vashtix said:

I amnot either but it appears there a group a people around Prince during the 80s who to this day discount Vanity's presence in the camp. They push others as muse and inspiration at the time. If Prince had not himself came out and shared certain things I would have thought Vanity was nothing but a passing in the night for him. New information keeps emerging to prove what these people have put out all these years and I believed to be true was not true because for whatever reason they carried a bias toward someone else besides Vanity.

I agree with you that people discount Vanity, but WHY? That's what I'm not getting. I don't get why?

OK, I'm gonna try to explain what may be the issue...

Now all y'all V fans/stans keep in mind as I type this...I like V, I really do...But I'm a P fan, first and foremost...so please keep that in mind when I try to explain my feelings about her...

I really didn't feel anything much about her except a vague fondness that connected to P until all this fuss in threads about her vs "insert another purple muse"...

I remember her from back in the day when she was with P and thought they were cute together...plus I anticipated her being in PR cuz I was curious about her and probably even got caught up in the hype at the time and sang along with Nasty Girl, although that was short-lived for me cuz while it's a catchy tune the vocals are...annnyway, all of a sudden she was gone and word was she and P had broken up so that was about it for me unless she popped up on a TV show or magazine...then I always then saw her in Last Dragon and Action Jackson, but that's about it...

V's pretty, no doubt about it...and the more old videos I see of her I can remember how cute and sorta quirky and smiley and a bit airheaded and lowkey ratchet she seemed to me...in a fun way...like a gal who'd be fun to hang out with...

Everyone's tastes differ on talent, but I gotta admit, I have very rarely listened to any of P's protegees voices and thought "OMG, that's it!"...and the V6?A6 choreography was so basic that I immediately thought "Ok, pretty and awkward and not dancers"...(Yes, Apples...I loveya, but you too)...

He tended to find very pretty gals with, for the most part, thin vaporous singing voices...some off tune to my ear and I find most of them very hard to listen to for any extended time...The gals with these strong beautiful voices tended not to be romantic partners, despite rumours otherwise...as a matter of fact, whenever I heard a good singer in the bunch I'd smirk and chuckle to myself and think "Pretty gal, great voice...P ain't effin her"...

Over the years we've come to appreciate Just my opinion of course, but I think the ones who resented V only saw a pretty girl who they felt was extremely modestly talented and that pisses folks off when gals like that get ahead so they mentally toss them aside...I think that's why V gets mentally tossed aside, for being just pretty and not much more...

Also, I think whenever it comes to a gal who is known to have shared his bed...well...jealousy creeps into the scenario...Y'all can say no, but...

PennyPurple said:

Zannaloaf said:

what a great thread.
Posters who who whine incessently about the most petty stuff, never had a moment of contact with Prince, calling Dez a whiner.
It doesn't get better than this.

He is crying in this book about not being on the bus with Prince. Sounds like bitch city and he was foolish enough to put write it down.

Vashtix said:

LBrent said:

Lawd, puhleez don't tell me that the implication was that V was P's "beard"...Cuz I ain't buyin that for even the briefest of seconds...

[Edited 6/21/17 16:09pm]

I amnot either but it appears there a group a people around Prince during the 80s who to this day discount Vanity's presence in the camp. They push others as muse and inspiration at the time. If Prince had not himself came out and shared certain things I would have thought Vanity was nothing but a passing in the night for him. New information keeps emerging to prove what these people have put out all these years and I believed to be true was not true because for whatever reason they carried a bias toward someone else besides Vanity.

Outside of this with Dez, I don't remember anyone actually discounting Vanity presence in the camp.

Who else?

OldFriends4Sale said:

Vashtix said:

I amnot either but it appears there a group a people around Prince during the 80s who to this day discount Vanity's presence in the camp. They push others as muse and inspiration at the time. If Prince had not himself came out and shared certain things I would have thought Vanity was nothing but a passing in the night for him. New information keeps emerging to prove what these people have put out all these years and I believed to be true was not true because for whatever reason they carried a bias toward someone else besides Vanity.

Outside of this with Dez, I don't remember anyone actually discounting Vanity presence in the camp.

Who else?

Lotsa fans/stans of other P protegees and muses and love interests...

They also disregard Jill Jones pretty often, but I think that's cuz she always comes off as pretty thirsty and not particularly pleasant...and that's not recent...I'll admit I did usedta feel abit sorry for her cuz she always seemed to be the girl left waiting in both PR and GB, but then I realized that wasn't just a role in a movie...she was sorta the girl left behind...I feel sorry for her.

Susan Moonsie also seems to be a girl left behind, but I've never seen/heard her whine about it...she's kept her dignity.

Apples has an undeniably place in the purpleness, but after 4/21 think she started feeling a bit left out after some of the other gals started jockeying for position as to who was higher on the purple food chain and she kinda acted out a bit...still love her though...

SheilaE also has an undeniable place in purpleness, but again, after 4/21 she also started ating out a bit and jockeying for position...still love her as well.

Seriously, fans know who is whom in the Purple Harem Heierachy...nobody needs to remind anyone of that...

It's actually a very simple formula to determine where gals sit on the purple food chain...determine when/if/how close they came to Minnesota...pretty simple really...Mayte even wrote about that in her book...

"The gal on her way into P's life was in Minnesota, the gal on her way out of P's life wasn't in Minnesota..."

LBrent said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Outside of this with Dez, I don't remember anyone actually discounting Vanity presence in the camp.

Who else?

Lotsa fans/stans of other P protegees and muses and love interests...

They also disregard Jill Jones pretty often, but I think that's cuz she always comes off as pretty thirsty and not particularly pleasant...and that's not recent...I'll admit I did usedta feel abit sorry for her cuz she always seemed to be the girl left waiting in both PR and GB, but then I realized that wasn't just a role in a movie...she was sorta the girl left behind...I feel sorry for her.

Susan Moonsie also seems to be a girl left behind, but I've never seen/heard her whine about it...she's kept her dignity.

Apples has an undeniably place in the purpleness, but after 4/21 think she started feeling a bit left out after some of the other gals started jockeying for position as to who was higher on the purple food chain and she kinda acted out a bit...still love her though...

SheilaE also has an undeniable place in purpleness, but again, after 4/21 she also started ating out a bit and jockeying for position...still love her as well.

Seriously, fans know who is whom in the Purple Harem Heierachy...nobody needs to remind anyone of that...

It's actually a very simple formula to determine where gals sit on the purple food chain...determine when/if/how close they came to Minnesota...pretty simple really...Mayte even wrote about that in her book...

"The gal on her way into P's life was in Minnesota, the gal on her way out of P's life wasn't in Minnesota..."

Yeah I know of fan. Especially those who seem to go after any woman connected with Prince. Most never go after men. Maybe it's a lot of women doing the attacking?

I do remember a woman on a FB group saying "she would never forgive Morris for what he did to Prince" literally.

Jill has always praised Vanity though, I mean bowing down to her. And always seemed to have a respect for her.

Susan Moonsie befriend Vanity, and then went on to get her higher education. I don't think she's ever discredited Vanity. And that connection Vanity 6 had was just electric. The way they feed off of each other.

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My question, was about who was discrediting Vanity. I've never read( and I read a lot) of anyone discrediting or disrespecting Vanity from the 80s camp back then.

This was an interesting article.

There was only so much of Prince to go around

LBrent said:

PennyPurple said:

I agree with you that people discount Vanity, but WHY? That's what I'm not getting. I don't get why?

OK, I'm gonna try to explain what may be the issue...

Now all y'all V fans/stans keep in mind as I type this...I like V, I really do...But I'm a P fan, first and foremost...so please keep that in mind when I try to explain my feelings about her...

I really didn't feel anything much about her except a vague fondness that connected to P until all this fuss in threads about her vs "insert another purple muse"...

I remember her from back in the day when she was with P and thought they were cute together...plus I anticipated her being in PR cuz I was curious about her and probably even got caught up in the hype at the time and sang along with Nasty Girl, although that was short-lived for me cuz while it's a catchy tune the vocals are...annnyway, all of a sudden she was gone and word was she and P had broken up so that was about it for me unless she popped up on a TV show or magazine...then I always then saw her in Last Dragon and Action Jackson, but that's about it...

V's pretty, no doubt about it...and the more old videos I see of her I can remember how cute and sorta quirky and smiley and a bit airheaded and lowkey ratchet she seemed to me...in a fun way...like a gal who'd be fun to hang out with...

Everyone's tastes differ on talent, but I gotta admit, I have very rarely listened to any of P's protegees voices and thought "OMG, that's it!"...and the V6?A6 choreography was so basic that I immediately thought "Ok, pretty and awkward and not dancers"...(Yes, Apples...I loveya, but you too)...

He tended to find very pretty gals with, for the most part, thin vaporous singing voices...some off tune to my ear and I find most of them very hard to listen to for any extended time...The gals with these strong beautiful voices tended not to be romantic partners, despite rumours otherwise...as a matter of fact, whenever I heard a good singer in the bunch I'd smirk and chuckle to myself and think "Pretty gal, great voice...P ain't effin her"...

Over the years we've come to appreciate Just my opinion of course, but I think the ones who resented V only saw a pretty girl who they felt was extremely modestly talented and that pisses folks off when gals like that get ahead so they mentally toss them aside...I think that's why V gets mentally tossed aside, for being just pretty and not much more...

Also, I think whenever it comes to a gal who is known to have shared his bed...well...jealousy creeps into the scenario...Y'all can say no, but...

Yep I can count on one hand the women that I know Prince worked with at some point that I can say I'm a fan of! Sueann Carwell, Rosie Gaines, and Shelby J are the only ladies that I enjoy hearing. Esperanza Spalding is one that I"m not a much of a fan of but I can semi find pleasing to the ear. It kills me that out of all the ladies I have researched that Prince worked with that I have only 4 women to enjoy music from. Everyone else I have sought out, listened to their music and I just really really don't like what I hear. It isn't for any other reason than the voice I hear singing just does not appeal to me. Maybe they have good personalities, good looks, or other attributes I don't see. But if they can't grab me with their vocal talent then I lose interest in them as a person.