TrivialPursuit said:

She's exactly on point! "[Prince] always said, ‘Do your own thing,’ and I am going to be doing my thing. This thing at Paisley Park is not what Prince was about. Ticket prices are like $500, and people who are really fans are expected to pay that to hear some stories. I’d understand if this money was going to a charity he believed in, but it’s just a lot of people hitting while the iron is hot. He’s already said it, ‘Old Friends 4 Sale': get ‘em while the gettin’ is hot, but you better watch out, they’ll kiss you until they get what you got. How about that? He wouldn’t like this, I know it.”

The article does say she points to Mayte as striking while the iron is hot. But you know what - it's Mayte's story. She as there. She married ol' boy and had two kids by him. Mayte isn't yet another fan who dug through The Vault, put together some dates and a new way of saying "He recorded spiritual songs on Sunday", while throwing in a new half-assed anecdote from a member of The Revolution or NPG.

Elisa's right about the rest. There's no way Prince would 1) charge $500 or $999 for this stupid celebration, and 2) do it on a date of death. Even though he didn't really believe in birthday, he did understand that fans would be drawn to the significance of the event around June (plus it's just nicer weather HA).

While I understand the estate & PP has to create a cash flow and actually support that (who wants Prince's legacy, belongings and assets just sitting around collecting dust while debtors pick through it like a sample plate of frozen cherries at Cosco?), don't fucking pee on my leg and tell me it's raining. All of us fans can see bullshit & real moneygrabbing when it's in front of us (like the other plethora of books that have come out in the last year - some days after he died). Mayte writing a book is not money grabbing. It's her right to make a living and tell her story. The book is getting incredible reviews from fans. Every time I see someone post about it, they love it. Elisa will write a book soon enough, or an essay in a paper or something, and get a check for it. It's only a matter of time. But maybe right now, money don't matter 2 nite.

"Mayte writing a book is not money grabbing." Give me a break. I can't stand it when people want to call the obvious by something other than what it is. According to Mayte the book was written "out of love", but as soon as Prince was pronounced dead, the market opened for her to publish a book about Prince with details that he would not want made public. Let's call it like it is: when she released her book, she agreed to commercially exploit her life and Prince's for money and attention. I would have more respect for her if she copped to it. I agree with Elisa 100%. Prince once said "you can tell if a friendship is beneficial to you, if they are respectful of you when they are not around you". That quote rings true with every stop of Mayte's book tour.

purplerabbithole said:

LEt me guess you are defending Mayte, but you are jumping Elisa's ass for actually be concerned about the timing of releases. She actually apologized for her statement. Yeah, she mentioned a relationship with Prince..big deal. She didn't elaborate and she basically stated he was a friend at the end.

BTW, if you go to her facebook, it is apparent she is still a real estate agent too. She could make a lot more money doing what these other ladies are doing. She is paying her bills by working hard for a living and mostly doing her own thing.

Elisa is fine, by me. Yes, I am jumping on the idea of her judgment of timing of Mayte or Shelby's releases, whether a book or a CD (namely by associates, not some wannabe fan who wants to make a few bucks on an Amazon title - the latter doesn't register with me at all). I'm also defending her right, or Mayte's etc, to tell their stories when/how they see fit to do so. The fact is there is always going to be someone pissed off about a release, whether 1 year later, or 10 years later.

And if you read all I typed I agree with you, as I said people have the right to make money and waiting for "the timing of a release" ain't payin' anyone's bills. If she apologized for that, then good. It wasn't her judgment. She's probably protective of Prince and his legacy, but shit - we all are on some level, aren't we? The only difference is we weren't on the payroll. We're all invested in him though. (I think I did know about the real estate thing, which is cool. I don't think I could do that.)

malbena said:

rogifan said:

malbena said:

Wouldn't you think same should apply to all associates? Some of them have been quite vocal against one another lately. I don't find it professional.

That said, Elisa is one of my favorite. Very little drama and very good singing.

Yes. And I'm not aware of Shelby being vocal against anyone publicly.

Me neither. Shelby Johson, Liv, and Elisa are rather professional in my eyes. Could it be why Prince kept them around.

For some reasons, drama involves relationships Prince severed. Wondering why

malbena said:

rogifan said:

malbena said: Yes. And I'm not aware of Shelby being vocal against anyone publicly.

Me neither. Shelby Johson, Liv, and Elisa are rather professional in my eyes. Could it be why Prince kept them around.

For some reasons, drama involves relationships Prince severed. Wondering why

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rogifan said:

she is entitled to her opinion of course .. but ...

I do think that the "prince cele" is a good way to keep

his memory alive .... lets face it .. pop music doesnt keep

goin on forever ... people forget about famous pop stars ..

look at phil collins .... dang .... i know my 12 and 16 yr old

have NO CLUE who he is ...

rogifan said:

New FB post from Elisa clarifying her comments on Shelby's album. Apparently Shelby reached out. Sounds like her issue was the timing of the release which is totally fair.

rogifan said:

The guy who runs PP said they had to spend several million dollars renovating the place and that money couldn't come from the Estate because the tax man comes first. I wonder if Elisa knows that.

I was wondering about that.

I paid somewhere around $100 dollars for my first celebration in 2000 and attended private parties for I think $12. Prince was there 9/10 times jamming with musicians. It was the best experience ever. Needless to say I met some great people there...

The price of the celebration is the most expensive I've ever seen and there must be a reason for that.

Elisa has de-activated her Facebook account (as of now).

I wonder if she was attacked?

Okay, I re-read her original quote about their "relationship" and she put it in quotes. I am not sure what that means, but it is vague enough to still be somewhat private. People are not always consistent but she has stood firm that she didn't want to perform at the Celebration..so its her choice and she is sticking to it.

Tresha68 said:

rogifan said:

New FB post from Elisa clarifying her comments on Shelby's album. Apparently Shelby reached out. Sounds like her issue was the timing of the release which is totally fair.

But,but, BUT she did most of Sheila's concerts last year, um, doing P. She's upset like the rest of Prince's "girls". Yet, she didn't hesitate to tell her story of them sleeping together. Whatever. I adore, adore, adore Shelby.

malbena said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

And here is where the 'latter' bandmembers are starting to act out.

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I think coming up to the anniversary of Prince's death is like a full moon.

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Who is to really tell anyone how to express themselves?
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I mean if the actual musicians were not musicians and jumped out of nowhere to do music, would be one thing, but music in all ways is how they make their living. Mayte aside(that is being talked about enough in other places) what would be the appropriate time for Shelby? Should she go get a 9 - 5 until she feels others will allow her to make music and not be accused of cashing in?

Tresha68 said:

rogifan said:

New FB post from Elisa clarifying her comments on Shelby's album. Apparently Shelby reached out. Sounds like her issue was the timing of the release which is totally fair.

But,but, BUT she did most of Sheila's concerts last year, um, doing P. She's upset like the rest of Prince's "girls". Yet, she didn't hesitate to tell her story of them sleeping together. Whatever. I adore, adore, adore Shelby.

And there it is

rogifan said:

New FB post from Elisa clarifying her comments on Shelby's album. Apparently Shelby reached out. Sounds like her issue was the timing of the release which is totally fair.

Just sounds like more BS.

Who are the older bands? lol the people who actually made the music and times with Prince ie the Revolution Andre the Time Sheila E the Family? 1991 NPG? music that they made famous with Prince?

OldFriends4Sale said:

ColAngus said:

she is entitled to her opinion of course .. but ...

I do think that the "prince cele" is a good way to keep

his memory alive .... lets face it .. pop music doesnt keep

goin on forever ... people forget about famous pop stars ..

look at phil collins .... dang .... i know my 12 and 16 yr old

have NO CLUE who he is ...

I am with U

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To keep it tight
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Let the 80s band members/proteges do the 1978-1988 stuff

Let the 90s band members do the 1991- stuff

let the 2000s focus on stuff from then etc

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I think that would be cool, that way people can be dedicated to time period concerts and stylise music that wasn't often heard live from then.

I think Elisa's comments are unfortunate, just as when she decided to reveal that she was once sleeping with Prince. Why even go there? Is it to garner attention for herself and her Las Vegas show? I wonder what kind of songs does she sing with her band? Something tells me that at least some of them are Prince songs. Is anybody knocking her "doing her own thing"?

Moreover, there is nothing wrong with the Celebration recognizing the first year mark since his passing. The price they are charging for FOUR days of activities, panel discussions by Prince associates and emerging Prince scholars, in addition to performances by LEGENDS of the MLPS Sound is not unreasonable at all. Just look into the registration fees for the average business or academic conference. These prices are right in line with those. The bottom line is that Paisley Park has to have operating revenue. Prince, himself, held the first Celebrations at PP and I think that he would be pleased that people are traveling from around the world to show their love for him and visit his "house."

FlyOnTheWall said:

I think Elisa's comments are unfortunate, just as when she decided to reveal that she was once sleeping with Prince. Why even go there? Is it to garner attention for herself and her Las Vegas show? I wonder what kind of songs does she sing with her band? Something tells me that at least some of them are Prince songs. Is anybody knocking her "doing her own thing"?

Moreover, there is nothing wrong with the Celebration recognizing the first year mark since his passing. The price they are charging for FOUR days of activities, panel discussions by Prince associates and emerging Prince scholars, in addition to performances by LEGENDS of the MLPS Sound is not unreasonable at all. Just look into the registration fees for the average business or academic conference. These prices are right in line with those. The bottom line is that Paisley Park has to have operating revenue. Prince, himself, held the first Celebrations at PP and I think that he would be pleased that people are traveling from around the world to show their love for him and visit his "house."

On point on both points

MMJas said:

“I definitely was invited, but in the conversations I had with Prince in my life, he always said, ‘Do your own thing,’ and I am going to be doing my thing,” says Fiorillo.

This thing at Paisley Park is not what Prince was about,” she says. “Ticket prices are like $500 ($550 for general admission, actually), and people who are really fans are expected to pay that to hear some stories. I’d understand if this money was going to a charity he believed in, but it’s just a lot of people hitting while the iron is hot.”

He’s already said it, ‘Old friends for sale, get ‘em while the gettin’ is hot, but you better watch out, they’ll kiss you until they get what you got,’ ” Fiorillo says. “How about that? He wouldn’t like this, I know it.”

She does not want to seem to be riding the purple wave. You hear that, Eric? Much respect, Elisa.

I don't think Prince fans are interested in Shelby J's records.

OldFriends4Sale said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I think Elisa's comments are unfortunate, just as when she decided to reveal that she was once sleeping with Prince. Why even go there? Is it to garner attention for herself and her Las Vegas show? I wonder what kind of songs does she sing with her band? Something tells me that at least some of them are Prince songs. Is anybody knocking her "doing her own thing"?

Moreover, there is nothing wrong with the Celebration recognizing the first year mark since his passing. The price they are charging for FOUR days of activities, panel discussions by Prince associates and emerging Prince scholars, in addition to performances by LEGENDS of the MLPS Sound is not unreasonable at all. Just look into the registration fees for the average business or academic conference. These prices are right in line with those. The bottom line is that Paisley Park has to have operating revenue. Prince, himself, held the first Celebrations at PP and I think that he would be pleased that people are traveling from around the world to show their love for him and visit his "house."

On point on both points

She also slept with Prince?! Oh well, why does that not surprise me?

MMJas said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

On point on both points

She also slept with Prince?! Oh well, why does that not surprise me?

interview from july 1999

NEIL : While filming Graffiti Bridge, didn't you feel awkward miming to the vocals on "Love Machine", when the album credits them to Elisa? Given that you were playing the part of Prince's girlfriend in the movie, surely it would have made more sense to have featured a song or two of your own?

JILL : I did record the song too. However, for whatever reasons, either politically or emotionally, Prince made the decision to use Elisa Fiorello's voice.

"Ooh, This I Need" by Prince & Elisa Fiorillo

http://www.geocities.com/...ebint.html

She released her second album I Am in 1990 recorded at Prince's Paisley Park recording studio after she had contributed, as a backing vocalist, to the soundtracks of Graffiti Bridge and Batman. Several songs from the album were produced and written by Prince. The album included the single "On The Way Up", which was a Top 30 hit in the U.S. and Top 20 in Australia. Fiorillo also appeared on Prince's album Diamonds And Pearls being the backing vocalist on two songs.

wow! i’m beautiful or so u tell me so
u say i’ve got the body that u just love 2 hold
it’s so seldom people tell u what u wanna hear
it’s so rare that your adventure overcomes your fear
ooh

wow! that feels good when u touch me there
(ooh this i need, ooh this i need)
no one’s done it quite like that, maybe no one really cared
(ooh this i need, ooh this i need)
so baby, when i say i burn 4 u, this fire is truly your deed
when all the others fail, i turn 2 u, baby, u see
ooh (ooh this i need)

ooh this i need, ooh this i need

PRNluv2 said:

MMJas said:

“I definitely was invited, but in the conversations I had with Prince in my life, he always said, ‘Do your own thing,’ and I am going to be doing my thing,” says Fiorillo.

This thing at Paisley Park is not what Prince was about,” she says. “Ticket prices are like $500 ($550 for general admission, actually), and people who are really fans are expected to pay that to hear some stories. I’d understand if this money was going to a charity he believed in, but it’s just a lot of people hitting while the iron is hot.”

He’s already said it, ‘Old friends for sale, get ‘em while the gettin’ is hot, but you better watch out, they’ll kiss you until they get what you got,’ ” Fiorillo says. “How about that? He wouldn’t like this, I know it.”

She does not want to seem to be riding the purple wave. You hear that, Eric? Much respect, Elisa.

I don't think Prince fans are interested in Shelby J's records.

we want music from the Vault (Prince or Protege) especially from 1977-1989 and many want stuff also from 1990-1994 I want Rainbowchildren outtakes and what was to be the Rainbow Children #2

Music would easily sooth the (full moon affect) April 21st seems to be having on us.

OldFriends4Sale said:

MMJas said:

She also slept with Prince?! Oh well, why does that not surprise me?

interview from july 1999

NEIL : While filming Graffiti Bridge, didn't you feel awkward miming to the vocals on "Love Machine", when the album credits them to Elisa? Given that you were playing the part of Prince's girlfriend in the movie, surely it would have made more sense to have featured a song or two of your own?

JILL : I did record the song too. However, for whatever reasons, either politically or emotionally, Prince made the decision to use Elisa Fiorello's voice.

"Ooh, This I Need" by Prince & Elisa Fiorillo

http://www.geocities.com/...ebint.html

Oooh This I Need (Below The Ground Mix)	6:09
Oooh This I Need (Laid Back Mix)	4:09

She released her second album I Am in 1990 recorded at Prince's Paisley Park recording studio after she had contributed, as a backing vocalist, to the soundtracks of Graffiti Bridge and Batman. Several songs from the album were produced and written by Prince. The album included the single "On The Way Up", which was a Top 30 hit in the U.S. and Top 20 in Australia. Fiorillo also appeared on Prince's album Diamonds And Pearls being the backing vocalist on two songs.

wow! i’m beautiful or so u tell me so
u say i’ve got the body that u just love 2 hold
it’s so seldom people tell u what u wanna hear
it’s so rare that your adventure overcomes your fear
ooh

wow! that feels good when u touch me there
(ooh this i need, ooh this i need)
no one’s done it quite like that, maybe no one really cared
(ooh this i need, ooh this i need)
so baby, when i say i burn 4 u, this fire is truly your deed
when all the others fail, i turn 2 u, baby, u see
ooh (ooh this i need)

ooh this i need, ooh this i need

This image was posted by Elisa Fiorillo. #Prince #GraffitiBridge#LoveMachine.
Check what she wrote:
Last one...he gave me this 8x10. Eye miss you so much Prince. I still don't feel like my many questions have been answered. I still don't feel "right" in my heart as to how you left this world. It still doesn't sit right with me and I hope one day we will have some real answers. I pray for that kind of peace that we all deserve to have by losing you much too soon. It shouldn't have happened. Lately- I've felt your presence so strong. I've seen many rainbows- and had too many coincidences...like you are trying to tell me there is more to the story than what has been told. The truth will come out. I know you trusted me. I know that our "relationship" back in 1990-1992 was one that was secret- and I never told a soul...because I had too much respect for you. You knew that and so did I. That is why you called me after 20 years. You trusted me. I wish I could have been there to protect you from whatever or whoever it was that let you leave this world. One day....one day we will. 4ever in our hearts.

Wow. Well, she didn't worry about coming out with it now.

And the "was one that was secret" comment... some of these women were really silly. Keeping a relationship a secret is basically the same as saying they don't want people to know about it and they should have asked themselves why. All this "not telling no one just proves how much i respect Prince and that he can trust me, otherwise I'll be out of here in no time" mantra served him well...

MMJas said:

I know that our "relationship" back in 1990-1992 was one that was secret- and I never told a soul...because I had too much respect for you. You knew that and so did I. That is why you called me after 20 years. You trusted me. I wish I could have been there to protect you from whatever or whoever it was that let you leave this world. One day....one day we will. 4ever in our hearts.

Wow. Well, she didn't worry about coming out with it now.

And the "was one that was secret" comment... some of these women were really silly. Keeping a relationship a secret is basically the same as saying they don't want people to know about it and they should have asked themselves why. All this "not telling no one just proves how much i respect Prince and that he can trust me, otherwise I'll be out of here in no time" mantra served him well...

Hey, that 1990-1992 time period was from when he had just met Mayte up until she was finally 18...

Hmmm...Interesting timeline.

No wonder he wanted things kept secret. That was also during overlapping time periods with Devin Devasquez, Nona Gaye, Carmen Electra and I'm sure I'm forgetting someone or two, but that's all I can think of right now.

Sheesh

[Edited 4/18/17 7:28am]

LBrent said:

MMJas said:

Wow. Well, she didn't worry about coming out with it now.

And the "was one that was secret" comment... some of these women were really silly. Keeping a relationship a secret is basically the same as saying they don't want people to know about it and they should have asked themselves why. All this "not telling no one just proves how much i respect Prince and that he can trust me, otherwise I'll be out of here in no time" mantra served him well...

Hey, that 1990-1992 time period was from when he had just met Mayte up until she was finally 18...

Hmmm...Interesting timeline.

No wonder he wanted things kept secret. That was also during overlapping time periods with Devin Devasquez, Nona Gaye, Carmen Electra and I'm sure I'm forgetting someone or two, but that's all I can think of right now.

Sheesh

[Edited 4/18/17 7:28am]

No wonder he couldn't get all that music and projects to full fruition lol

I think Devin was done with Prince by 1987 or earlier she said, the 'romantic' relationship ended in 1985 in one interview or 86

replace her with actress Troy Beyer

OldFriends4Sale said:

LBrent said:

Hey, that 1990-1992 time period was from when he had just met Mayte up until she was finally 18...

Hmmm...Interesting timeline.

No wonder he wanted things kept secret. That was also during overlapping time periods with Devin Devasquez, Nona Gaye, Carmen Electra and I'm sure I'm forgetting someone or two, but that's all I can think of right now.

Sheesh

[Edited 4/18/17 7:28am]

No wonder he couldn't get all that music and projects to full fruition lol

I think Devin was done with Prince by 1987 or earlier she said, the 'romantic' relationship ended in 1985 in one interview or 86

replace her with actress Troy Beyer

Ok, I knew I was forgetting someone.

And just think, those are the gals we know about...no tellin how many random gals and one offs.

LBrent said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

No wonder he couldn't get all that music and projects to full fruition lol

I think Devin was done with Prince by 1987 or earlier she said, the 'romantic' relationship ended in 1985 in one interview or 86

replace her with actress Troy Beyer

Ok, I knew I was forgetting someone.

And just think, those are the gals we know about...no tellin how many random gals and one offs.

Wasn't Robin Power still around during that time of 89-92?