Dibblekins said:

Ye Gadz...

I love that GIF. Prince was good with facial expressions.

Mumio said:

LBrent said:

Ex-wife, ex-band, songs...

I guess EB just has a fetish for all P's sloppy seconds.

It's a good thing EB's too big to fit into P's clothes and shoes or he'd probably do a photoshoot in them, too. Sheesh

Hmmm

Oh my f*%king word, hahahahahahahahaha!!!! That's freaking hysterical LBrent!!!!

That was mean of me.

malbena said:

Does anybody know if lawyers can sue anyone using Prince's songs for lucrative purposes?

I remember Prince saying on the Lopez Tonight that there was a "compulsory law" that allows anyone to take any song....but not sure where this stands.

Was Eric Benet ever an associate of Prince?

Yup

He was associated with P's second wife's nether regions.

Ok, Ok...I'll stop.

If Benet does one song I might be okay with it. LIke a featured vocalist. But if he just becomes the lead singer...then FUCK the Revolution.

I still think even if he is a 'featured vocalist', it is insensitive of them to do that. I know Prince cheated on Mayte with Manuela..that does not justify the Revolution being disrespectful to Prince by replacing him with a man who married his ex after she supposedly cheated with him. Prince didn't cheat on them. His actions didn't affect them here.

LBrent I understand your humor just fine lol. Coming from you doesn't come off as being offensice, probably because you sure have come across as being fair, honest, and kind as well.

LBrent said:

That was mean of me.

malbena said:

Does anybody know if lawyers can sue anyone using Prince's songs for lucrative purposes?

I remember Prince saying on the Lopez Tonight that there was a "compulsory law" that allows anyone to take any song....but not sure where this stands.

Was Eric Benet ever an associate of Prince?

Yup

He was associated with P's second wife's nether regions.

Ok, Ok...I'll stop.

[Edited 4/15/17 18:07pm]

malbena said:

LBrent I understand your humor just fine lol. Coming from you doesn't come off as being offensice, probably because you sure have come across as being fair, honest, and kind as well.

Mumio said:

[Edited 4/15/17 18:07pm]

Aw, thanx.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

http://prince.org/msg/7/4...9&pg=3

He sang I Wanna Be Ur Lover at the LA Memorial per someone from the org that attended.

No Shame.

Yeah, that was the public memorial that was at LA City Hall. I am talking about the PRIVATE one that Mayte and Mani put together. I heard he sang "Do Me Baby" at that one and I wanted to see if someone could verify that lol

Found the Tweet Brown Mark sent to Eric Benet inviting him to perform with the Revolution at Webster Hall in NYC on May 3. This just ain't right! https://twitter.com/Brown...2370552832

LBrent said:

CooperC62057 said:

LBrent said:

Yup

He was associated with P's second wife's nether regions.

Ok, Ok...I'll stop.

LBrent said:

Ex-wife, ex-band, songs...

I guess EB just has a fetish for all P's sloppy seconds.

It's a good thing EB's too big to fit into P's clothes and shoes or he'd probably do a photoshoot in them, too. Sheesh

Hmmm

Good one.

babynoz said:

PennyPurple said:

Yeah......how could he possibly not have known any of this? Wouldn't attend even if they were gonna be in my area. Eric Benet is a no-go and it's tacky as hell for him to be any part of this.

I'm not convinced that he didn't know either because I'm sure somebody would have said something to him about it.

Just like they should have known better than to have him sing at the Sister Wife Memorial.

My guess is that tact and etiquette is what they have no clue about.

Having $$ or talent doesn't translate to having class.

I didn't say you babynoz, I said PEOPLE were holding up for BrownMark. Go back and look at the thread that I'm talking about and you will see who the 'people' are.

purplerabbithole said:

If Benet does one song I might be okay with it. LIke a featured vocalist. But if he just becomes the lead singer...then FUCK the Revolution.

I still think even if he is a 'featured vocalist', it is insensitive of them to do that. I know Prince cheated on Mayte with Manuela..that does not justify the Revolution being disrespectful to Prince by replacing him with a man who married his ex after she supposedly cheated with him. Prince didn't cheat on them. His actions didn't affect them here.

Very much so. Insensitive and downright disrespectful.

PennyPurple said:

babynoz said:

I'm not convinced that he didn't know either because I'm sure somebody would have said something to him about it.

Just like they should have known better than to have him sing at the Sister Wife Memorial.

My guess is that tact and etiquette is what they have no clue about.

Having $$ or talent doesn't translate to having class.

I didn't say you babynoz, I said PEOPLE were holding up for BrownMark. Go back and look at the thread that I'm talking about and you will see who the 'people' are.

No worries.....just saying I was with you on that.

PennyPurple said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

oh oh...gonna vomit again...rethinking plans to catch the Revolution...would freak out if Benet took the stage...

Yeah when this was being discussed on the other thread, people were holding up for BrownMark, saying that he probably didn't know the past history of Benet and Prince. I called BS then and BS now. There is no way in H. that The Revolution couldn't know that Benet was married to Prince's ex wife, who cheated on him with Benet.

But that is a whole different topic. BrownMark offhanded comment is not about Eric Benet touring.
These are two different topics. If BrownMark did not say that, this is still a singular topic of Eric touring.

purplerabbithole said:

If Benet does one song I might be okay with it. LIke a featured vocalist. But if he just becomes the lead singer...then FUCK the Revolution.

I still think even if he is a 'featured vocalist', it is insensitive of them to do that. I know Prince cheated on Mayte with Manuela..that does not justify the Revolution being disrespectful to Prince by replacing him with a man who married his ex after she supposedly cheated with him. Prince didn't cheat on them. His actions didn't affect them here.

Well in general that is what it would be, the shows were never going to be 1 person doing a whole set list of songs. Throught all of these announcements and the Sept shows that is what it has consistently been. Why would you think Eric or anyone else would become the lead singer?

People keep throwing in the discussion 'take the place of Prince' that is just a silly pot stirring reaction, that just does not flow with facts.

Everybody keeps saying, "Well, why are you doing it? Who's going to sing? Who's going to be Prince? Who's going to be the centerpiece?" All right, let's break this down: No one. No one's going to be Prince. No one will ever be Prince, and none of us in the band are going to try and be him. You can't. It's just not going to happen. - Wendy Melvoin

OldFriends4Sale said:

malbena said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Well in general that is what it would be, the shows were never going to be 1 person doing a whole set list of songs. Throught all of these announcements and the Sept shows that is what it has consistently been. Why would you think Eric or anyone else would become the lead singer?

People keep throwing in the discussion 'take the place of Prince' that is just a silly pot stirring reaction, that just does not flow with facts.

Everybody keeps saying, "Well, why are you doing it? Who's going to sing? Who's going to be Prince? Who's going to be the centerpiece?" All right, let's break this down: No one. No one's going to be Prince. No one will ever be Prince, and none of us in the band are going to try and be him. You can't. It's just not going to happen. - Wendy Melvoin

Agreed! They will keep doing what they want because they realized quick they can't make everyone happy.

I mean, did I read it wrong? Did Mark say, Eric is going to lead the Revolution. Eric is going to do a whole show leading the songs on a particular night? Didn't it read: "@ebenet If you're in NY May3rd you should come check us out at Webster Hall. Would love to have you come up on stage with us. Let me know

.

How did that translate to Eric Benet is going to lead the Revolution, Eric Benet is going to replace Prince on this tribute tour...

.

And again, how did this thread about Eric touring turn into a Revolution touring thread? lol

Its not so silly that Wendy didn't have to react to the accusation. Also, there are bands that replace their lead singer all the time.. Van Halen for example. No one thinks that David Lee Roth wrote all the Van Halen songs.

OldFriends4Sale said:

purplerabbithole said:

If Benet does one song I might be okay with it. LIke a featured vocalist. But if he just becomes the lead singer...then FUCK the Revolution.

I still think even if he is a 'featured vocalist', it is insensitive of them to do that. I know Prince cheated on Mayte with Manuela..that does not justify the Revolution being disrespectful to Prince by replacing him with a man who married his ex after she supposedly cheated with him. Prince didn't cheat on them. His actions didn't affect them here.

Well in general that is what it would be, the shows were never going to be 1 person doing a whole set list of songs. Throught all of these announcements and the Sept shows that is what it has consistently been. Why would you think Eric or anyone else would become the lead singer?

People keep throwing in the discussion 'take the place of Prince' that is just a silly pot stirring reaction, that just does not flow with facts.

Everybody keeps saying, "Well, why are you doing it? Who's going to sing? Who's going to be Prince? Who's going to be the centerpiece?" All right, let's break this down: No one. No one's going to be Prince. No one will ever be Prince, and none of us in the band are going to try and be him. You can't. It's just not going to happen. - Wendy Melvoin

OldFriends4Sale said:

malbena said:

OldFriends4Sale said: Agreed! They will keep doing what they want because they realized quick they can't make everyone happy.

I mean, did I read it wrong? Did Mark say, Eric is going to lead the Revolution. Eric is going to do a whole show leading the songs on a particular night? Didn't it read: "@ebenet If you're in NY May3rd you should come check us out at Webster Hall. Would love to have you come up on stage with us. Let me know

.

How did that translate to Eric Benet is going to lead the Revolution, Eric Benet is going to replace Prince on this tribute tour...

.

And again, how did this thread about Eric touring turn into a Revolution touring thread? lol

Agreed again! We are on the same page today...or thread as it is

Because many of us, as explained before, did not know the insides and workings of the Mayte/Manuella/Prince/Eric situation. Many of us still don't know, outside of what people are saying on the org. And not until recently did I care to look into it. We cannot expect people to feel the need to look into Prince's MF relations the way some here do. Many people divorce themselve from it. Did all those people in Prince's camp 1998-2000 see/notice that Prince was still married to Mayte(to the world) when he was courting Manuella... Rhonda Larry Graham Blackwell etc etc?

.

I still stand by the premise, that like I and a whole lot of other fullfledge PRince fans knew nothing of the goings on between Prince Mani Eric. And I still don't know outside of the gossip.

.

There are 2 issues in that, that was brought up before and her(even though this thread isn't about the Revolution)

1. People knowing about Prince being married to Manuella (of course most people probably knew.) But I know a lot of people that did not know Prince was married twice. I mean there really are a lot of people who just don't know about Prince's life. The same, I know a lot of people who are huge touring Prince fans. That is something I've come to realize in the last 10+ years. That there are fan who are not huge into buying the albums, but spend money on going to the shows/celebrations etc

.

2. Assuming people know that Eric & Manuella (allegedly) cheated while she was still with Prince.

Lots of people do when divorcing or a relationship ends(not justifying it but it is a fact)

.

3. That Prince while still married to Mayte, was seeing Manuella

Lots of people do when divorcing or a relationship ends(not justifying it but it is a fact)

.

4. people up in arms about 2 but not 3.

A buddy of mine and I were talking about how women will kill a woman for cheating with 'their man' even if she did not know he was seeing someone(which obviously mean he isn't your man) but I digress, but they will be very forgiving to the man, who probably lied and slimed his way to get with the woman. There are a lot of 'female fans' acting like the jilted wife of Prince'

.

I'm just learning from another member that Manuella was working at Paisley park as early as 1997, but 1999 Prince bought a house in Spain and built a 'big tall wall' and placed Mayte in it and rarely visited there, by 2000 I'm seeing photos of Prince and Manuella at basketball games.

Your #4 has nothing to do with the Revolution being respectful of Prince. Also, just because Manuela worked at Paisley in 97 doesn't mean they were cheating by then (which seemed to be what you were implying). She did start off as an employee after all. She wasn't some kind of live-in slut.

By the way, I don't hate Manuela, Mayte or Prince. Prince is the one that messed up...but that doesn't let Mayte off the hook or the Revolution off the hook if they are being disrespectful now especially if they are being disingenious to fans of his... PRINCE DIED...he can't defend himself or make amends even if he wanted to (and his fans are hurting) . If folks can't forgive him now, then the issue isn't with Prince..its with themselves.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Because many of us, as explained before, did not know the insides and workings of the Mayte/Manuella/Prince/Eric situation. Many of us still don't know, outside of what people are saying on the org. And not until recently did I care to look into it. We cannot expect people to feel the need to look into Prince's MF relations the way some here do. Many people divorce themselve from it. Did all those people in Prince's camp 1998-2000 see/notice that Prince was still married to Mayte(to the world) when he was courting Manuella... Rhonda Larry Graham Blackwell etc etc?

.

I still stand by the premise, that like I and a whole lot of other fullfledge PRince fans knew nothing of the goings on between Prince Mani Eric. And I still don't know outside of the gossip.

.

There are 2 issues in that, that was brought up before and her(even though this thread isn't about the Revolution)

1. People knowing about Prince being married to Manuella (of course most people probably knew.) But I know a lot of people that did not know Prince was married twice. I mean there really are a lot of people who just don't know about Prince's life. The same, I know a lot of people who are huge touring Prince fans. That is something I've come to realize in the last 10+ years. That there are fan who are not huge into buying the albums, but spend money on going to the shows/celebrations etc

.

2. Assuming people know that Eric & Manuella (allegedly) cheated while she was still with Prince.

Lots of people do when divorcing or a relationship ends(not justifying it but it is a fact)

.

3. That Prince while still married to Mayte, was seeing Manuella

Lots of people do when divorcing or a relationship ends(not justifying it but it is a fact)

.

4. people up in arms about 2 but not 3.

A buddy of mine and I were talking about how women will kill a woman for cheating with 'their man' even if she did not know he was seeing someone(which obviously mean he isn't your man) but I digress, but they will be very forgiving to the man, who probably lied and slimed his way to get with the woman. There are a lot of 'female fans' acting like the jilted wife of Prince'

.

I'm just learning from another member that Manuella was working at Paisley park as early as 1997, but 1999 Prince bought a house in Spain and built a 'big tall wall' and placed Mayte in it and rarely visited there, by 2000 I'm seeing photos of Prince and Manuella at basketball games.

laurarichardson said:

lavie said:

I need this clarified. Do any of you guys know if it is true he sang "Do Me, Baby" at the private memorial M2 and M1 put on in LA?

--I remember someone saying he did. I would love for fans to go to his show and throw a bannna at his head😀 however, I know Orince fans are too cool to waste money and time seeing this clown. What kind of marriage does he have with his wife? I feel sorry for Orince to have been married to this gold digging women who is still trying to get money off Prince and will not let him rest in peace. Pathetic.

That's right. Orince married gold digging dingbat wives bc he didn't know better Whatever. Maybe you should have been his life coach?

purplerabbithole said:

Your #4 has nothing to do with the Revolution being respectful of Prince. Also, just because Manuela worked at Paisley in 97 doesn't mean they were cheating by then (which seemed to be what you were implying). She did start off as an employee after all. She wasn't some kind of live-in slut.

By the way, I don't hate Manuela, Mayte or Prince. Prince is the one that messed up...but that doesn't let Mayte off the hook or the Revolution off the hook if they are being disrespectful now especially if they are being disingenious to fans of his... PRINCE DIED...he can't defend himself or make amends even if he wanted to (and his fans are hurting) . If folks can't forgive him now, then the issue isn't with Prince..its with themselves.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Because many of us, as explained before, did not know the insides and workings of the Mayte/Manuella/Prince/Eric situation. Many of us still don't know, outside of what people are saying on the org. And not until recently did I care to look into it. We cannot expect people to feel the need to look into Prince's MF relations the way some here do. Many people divorce themselve from it. Did all those people in Prince's camp 1998-2000 see/notice that Prince was still married to Mayte(to the world) when he was courting Manuella... Rhonda Larry Graham Blackwell etc etc?

.

I still stand by the premise, that like I and a whole lot of other fullfledge PRince fans knew nothing of the goings on between Prince Mani Eric. And I still don't know outside of the gossip.

.

There are 2 issues in that, that was brought up before and her(even though this thread isn't about the Revolution)

1. People knowing about Prince being married to Manuella (of course most people probably knew.) But I know a lot of people that did not know Prince was married twice. I mean there really are a lot of people who just don't know about Prince's life. The same, I know a lot of people who are huge touring Prince fans. That is something I've come to realize in the last 10+ years. That there are fan who are not huge into buying the albums, but spend money on going to the shows/celebrations etc

.

2. Assuming people know that Eric & Manuella (allegedly) cheated while she was still with Prince.

Lots of people do when divorcing or a relationship ends(not justifying it but it is a fact)

.

3. That Prince while still married to Mayte, was seeing Manuella

Lots of people do when divorcing or a relationship ends(not justifying it but it is a fact)

.

4. people up in arms about 2 but not 3.

A buddy of mine and I were talking about how women will kill a woman for cheating with 'their man' even if she did not know he was seeing someone(which obviously mean he isn't your man) but I digress, but they will be very forgiving to the man, who probably lied and slimed his way to get with the woman. There are a lot of 'female fans' acting like the jilted wife of Prince'

.

I'm just learning from another member that Manuella was working at Paisley park as early as 1997, but 1999 Prince bought a house in Spain and built a 'big tall wall' and placed Mayte in it and rarely visited there, by 2000 I'm seeing photos of Prince and Manuella at basketball games.

#4 is people up in arms about 2 but not 3

.

the other part was seperate.
I did not say Prince was cheating by 1997 But he was not divorced from Mayte in 2000 while Mayte is put away at the house in Spain.
Again #4 people see Mani & Eric but not Mani & Prince

Mayte said her relation with Mani was peticular for a reason.

Prince's divorce was June 2000

http://prince.org/msg/5/440879

Look everyone is off the hook, I mean what is anyone going to do but not buy the book, not go to the concert? Seriously, I think people have too much emotionally invested in this fantasy fight.

.

If u think someone is being disingenious, how r u going to find out one way or another? How are you going to find the intent of their heart, or if someone really did not know about something. If I didn't as HUGE of a Prince fan as I am why should others. Most of the hardcore dude Prince fans I know seriously are not into that stuff like this. What would satifsy u? You've asked this question in almost every thread in the AA forum about them being disingenious. And would the answer really satisfy you.

.
True if PRince fans or these associate women cannot forgive now, maybe they will in time, or not.
But I'm not talking about that, like I said I don't care one way or another people know or don't know, I wasn't married to Prince Mayte Mani or Eric.

.

But Prince sure did put the story in his music. That is the important thing for me.

Look I get it that we all to various expressions are hurt, I'm right there with U.
And as is usual in most passing of people, there are periods of confusion, anger, loniness etc

It should pass soon. It should.

No it is silly.
Because we should live our lives off of facts, not speculation, or exaggerations

If you can show me where to even a degree they said someone was going to replace Prince, Lead the Revolution or do a whole show leading the songs, then we can say it wasn't silly.

.

She reacted because people are being silly.

.
Of course Van Halen had a replacement but you cannot compare that. Van Halen sought out a lead singer (Van Halen is the name of the band and the groups formuler. Not David Lee Roth.
And what does this about writing all the songs have to do with people assuming Eric Benet is going to take over LEAD of the Revolution, when there was and is no place ever that that was stated nor performed. They performed in 2002 @ the Sheila E Benefit, No Lead, the performed in 2012 no lead, 2013 different leads, 2016 a few leading a son, but the Revolution lead.

.

She and they in interviews that can be read and listened to stated no one is taking Prince place not even them. How much more needs to be said.

purplerabbithole said:

Its not so silly that Wendy didn't have to react to the accusation. Also, there are bands that replace their lead singer all the time.. Van Halen for example. No one thinks that David Lee Roth wrote all the Van Halen songs.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Well in general that is what it would be, the shows were never going to be 1 person doing a whole set list of songs. Throught all of these announcements and the Sept shows that is what it has consistently been. Why would you think Eric or anyone else would become the lead singer?

People keep throwing in the discussion 'take the place of Prince' that is just a silly pot stirring reaction, that just does not flow with facts.

Everybody keeps saying, "Well, why are you doing it? Who's going to sing? Who's going to be Prince? Who's going to be the centerpiece?" All right, let's break this down: No one. No one's going to be Prince. No one will ever be Prince, and none of us in the band are going to try and be him. You can't. It's just not going to happen. - Wendy Melvoin

OldFriends4Sale said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Because many of us, as explained before, did not know the insides and workings of the Mayte/Manuella/Prince/Eric situation. Many of us still don't know, outside of what people are saying on the org. And not until recently did I care to look into it. We cannot expect people to feel the need to look into Prince's MF relations the way some here do. Many people divorce themselve from it. Did all those people in Prince's camp 1998-2000 see/notice that Prince was still married to Mayte(to the world) when he was courting Manuella... Rhonda Larry Graham Blackwell etc etc?

.

Well since we are finger wagging now.....

To be fair, most members here including you and myself seldom read or commented on any of Prince's personal associates until he passed and they began crawling out of the woodwork, so to speak. I actually do not expect that to continue much longer past the anniversary, but I could be wrong.

With that in mind and in keeping with the holiday spirit I would like to beg a favor?

Can we get another sticky for John Blackwell, who is back in critical condition? It's kind of odd that the thread about his situation has been mostly ignored and is sinking to the bottom of the forum while people take sides in the stan wars.

We have multiple threads about the exes and their various projects while a man is literally hanging on by a thread. It would be great to see some $$ going in that direction but there are hardly any posts on that thread!


https://www.gofundme.com/...lackwellJr


*Apologies to the OP for off topic.