NotACleverName said:

anangellooksdown said:

He was still sending her flowers in the early 90s and asking her back, and in the last RS article he talked about her too. "No one could talk like her," he said.
Prince was very into what happens after this life and sometimes I wonder if he was looking forward to that more than anything. He did write to Vanity in the last years and said that when we die there's only pleasure. He called her Darling and said that God loved her very much, probably more than ever now (because of her religious/spiritual growth).
She was in the hospital at the time.

Some lines from Big City, Prince's last track on his last album:

"The night is young, much younger than we are"...

"If everybody's a star, to me you're the most pretty"...

"Everybody's getting money instead of getting saved,
not you and me honey, we already gave"...

"I just came to tell y'all
from the darkest desperation to the highest bliss,
Power to the ones aware of the bigger than this."

The lyrics about being saved just came to me as I was reading so I thought I'd share my thoughts. You just never know what another person is truly thinking, how he feels about people, etc. Worth considering anyway for anyone interested.

I think Prince might've loved and thought of more than one woman at once and differently, even perhaps in the same song
[Edited 4/10/17 13:20pm]

No, he wasn't. This was a ruse and debunked by Deborah as told by Nikki Sixx in his book. He states that she "sent them to herself to f**k with his head". He also wrote that she "had plenty of ways to do it" (the "it" as a descriptor of f*****g with his head). You can read it right here: https://books.google.com/...mp;f=false There are also a few other interesting stories he shares!

NotACleverName said:

anangellooksdown said:

NotACleverName said:

No, he wasn't. This was a ruse and debunked by Deborah as told by Nikki Sixx in his book. He states that she "sent them to herself to f**k with his head". He also wrote that she "had plenty of ways to do it" (the "it" as a descriptor of f*****g with his head). You can read it right here: https://books.google.com/...mp;f=false There are also a few other interesting stories he shares!

Aren't girls something! I saw that card elsewhere once. That was 1987. What I read was that in the early 90s he asked her back. It seemed like legit sources but I can't remember where this past year I read it. I've thought about this too, and I don't think Prince tried to get back with her after his first marriage. But I do think that while she moved on to be Denise, he always missed Vanity. And I think he cared about her as a person because she was one of "his".

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

NotACleverName said:

purplegirl00 said:

TOB said in one of threads removed, that in her writings, Vanity asked Prince, knowingly, for more than he could afford to give her an excuse to leave him and the movie production. In a Playboy interview She gave in 1988, she said that the money was more of an excuse. L

You know, TOB can say whatever he wants it doesn't make it fact and it doesn't change historical truth. You are all speculating here. Not one iota of your fantastical opining about Prince's sadness over Denise's marriage is true. Taking that statement (Vanity's request for more PR $ and Prince's sadness) under consideration with a more neutral, practical view, I would imagine he was upset because production was slated to start and this, potentially, was going to impact the movie in a very negative way. He now had a very short amount of time to secure a new leading lady....not an easy endeavor, I'm sure. I would think if you love someone and want them to succeed, you would not do something to risk their failure. Some of y'all might want to reflect back on the Andy Allo and Prince threads and consider your participation here.

The very things you're saying about my thoughts could be said of your thoughts on Mayte's revenge, sympathy garnering, throw-your-ex-under-the-bus right on the anniversary of his death, "love story", as well.

If you read my post in it's entirety, you would see that not only did I mention the EVIDENCE that TOB posted (pics of Denise's transcripts and such), but I also mentioned a Playboy interview that Vanity did in 1988 discussing her relationship with Prince and why she left Purple Rain- all from her OWN MOUTH. It matches what TOB said/ shared, so I'm going with that.

As the entertainer, she was known globally. She had been a model in Japan with a budding acting career BEFORE Prince. She had appeared in a movie with a well known actress -Jamie Lee Curtis in Terror Train. After Prince, she was in several movies with other well-known actors/ actresses of that time and had a couple of solo albums. Her influence on popculture can be seen in the fashion of many of the female singers that came after her.

Her relationship with Prince began nearly a decade BEFORE Mayte and not even Andy had been born yet. There is evidence that Vanity and Prince were on and off for sometime through the 80's and early 90's. It's in his music, her music, and hints in interviews both gave. There is probably other evidence (Vanity wearing Prince's outfit from the Parade album cover) to his birthday bash. Their relationship was not a fairytale, far from it. None of Prince's relationships were that- marriages or not, babies or not. Their lives seemed to have been moving in the same directions/ parallels- name changes, maturity, and spirituality etc. Both were very private people despite their public images. So if indeed they remained friends and in touch over the years after the 90s, it wouldn't have been for us to know about or see then. In fact, we didn't see anything until his reaction to her death- which is the hardest EVIDENCE yet of their connection. I've said this like a broken record, NO MAN will mourn an ex-girlfriend from 33 years ago the way Prince did. It was reported in an Australian newspaper in October, that Prince was “shattered” upon learning of her passing. He cared for her deeply throughout that span of those years. Why they didn't reconcile is the million dollar question? Vanity gave up Hollywood after near fatal overdose and became a preacher. Prince was a rockstar. Their lives were incompatible. However, people can still love each other and not be together in the same physical space.

The many conversations/ threads here about Vanity, are NOT the same as the MANY Andy threads. There is NO comparison. There are "receipts" everywhere. What has happened with Andy due to the incessant, ridiculous fantasy threads by the same poster, will NEVER occur with Vanity/Denise. There IS HARD evidence of what she and Prince had AND she has FANS both from being an entertainer and from being a preacher, giving her life to Christ.

Maybe it’s not me who needs to “consider my participation” here.

purplegirl00 said:

NotACleverName said:

purplegirl00 said:

The very things you're saying about my thoughts could be said of your thoughts on Mayte's revenge, sympathy garnering, throw-your-ex-under-the-bus right on the anniversary of his death, "love story", as well.

If you read my post in it's entirety, you would see that not only did I mention the EVIDENCE that TOB posted (pics of Denise's transcripts and such), but I also mentioned a Playboy interview that Vanity did in 1988 discussing her relationship with Prince and why she left Purple Rain- all from her OWN MOUTH. It matches what TOB said/ shared, so I'm going with that.

As the entertainer, she was known globally. She had been a model in Japan with a budding acting career BEFORE Prince. She had appeared in a movie with a well known actress -Jamie Lee Curtis in Terror Train. After Prince, she was in several movies with other well-known actors/ actresses of that time and had a couple of solo albums. Her influence on popculture can be seen in the fashion of many of the female singers that came after her.

Her relationship with Prince began nearly a decade BEFORE Mayte and not even Andy had been born yet. There is evidence that Vanity and Prince were on and off for sometime through the 80's and early 90's. It's in his music, her music, and hints in interviews both gave. There is probably other evidence (Vanity wearing Prince's outfit from the Parade album cover) to his birthday bash. Their relationship was not a fairytale, far from it. None of Prince's relationships were that- marriages or not, babies or not. Their lives seemed to have been moving in the same directions/ parallels- name changes, maturity, and spirituality etc. Both were very private people despite their public images. So if indeed they remained friends and in touch over the years after the 90s, it wouldn't have been for us to know about or see then. In fact, we didn't see anything until his reaction to her death- which is the hardest EVIDENCE yet of their connection. I've said this like a broken record, NO MAN will mourn an ex-girlfriend from 33 years ago the way Prince did. It was reported in an Australian newspaper in October, that Prince was “shattered” upon learning of her passing. He cared for her deeply throughout that span of those years. Why they didn't reconcile is the million dollar question? Vanity gave up Hollywood after near fatal overdose and became a preacher. Prince was a rockstar. Their lives were incompatible. However, people can still love each other and not be together in the same physical space.

The many conversations/ threads here about Vanity, are NOT the same as the MANY Andy threads. There is NO comparison. There are "receipts" everywhere. What has happened with Andy due to the incessant, ridiculous fantasy threads by the same poster, will NEVER occur with Vanity/Denise. There IS HARD evidence of what she and Prince had AND she has FANS both from being an entertainer and from being a preacher, giving her life to Christ.

Maybe it’s not me who needs to “consider my participation” here.

No, there is absolutely NO hard evidence anywhere of a continuous connection between Prince and Vanity. It is all in your head and that is all. It is very interesting how you are saying you will believe what comes out of Vanity's mouth....basically her memories....but Mayte does not get the same respect. And, aamof, Prince and Mayte had conversations over the phone in the ensuing years after the divorce. He did invite her to a Vegas show for her birthday and during that show he made a point to go into the audience to show his love for her. He would have been shattered over the death of any one of his former proteges, girlfriends, wives. As I said before, when he was in love, he was ALL IN. When he was done, he was out. He may have had residual love in the form of fondness but no way did he desire to get back with Vanity/Denise. We all know Denise turned her life over to Christ. People do this. Every. Single. Day. It does not make her a martyr. She was always a child of God (as I believe we all are), she simply began to recognize that and share it in a public forum. You are truly fooling yourself if you think Prince and Vanity were soul mates who did not get to realize the destiny of their hearts. As for TOB'S evidence....Prince's writings, etc.? I will believe it when someone authenticates it. Until then, it's hearsay, speculation, opinions, conjucture. Take your pick.

It's not ALL in my head. There are plenty of threads on this forum, going back years, with information, even before TOB posted a single thing.

Have you listened to the P & M concerts and Prince mourn Denise publicly? I doubt it. Otherwise you wouldn't be saying what you're saying. Somehow, I just had a dejavu that I suggested that you listen to those, once before.

NO, Mayte does NOT get the same respect as Denise because she finished her book AFTER Prince died. He could not refute or dispute anything she put in her book. Denise didn't throw Prince under the bus in her book, like Mayte has. Plus, Denise has nothing to gain; she is gone from this world. Meanwhile, Mayte is garnering sympathy, exacting revenge, and making $$$ all on the anniversary of his death. Is that what you do when you love and respect someone? I DON’T THINK SO.

I never said Denise was a martyr, so don't put words into my mouth. I said that their lives were INCOMPATIBLE and perhaps that is why there was not reconciliation. Besides which, how would you know that Prince didn't want reconciliation with Denise? Were you in his head? I think not. Do you have proof? I would like to see it- straight from his mouth. I also NEVER said that Prince and Denise were soulmates, I just said that it's possible to love someone (each other) and not be in the same physical space. I don't subscribe to that "soulmate" bullsh*t like some of you do.

There is NO proof that Prince stayed in touch with Mayte like that. If I am guilty of listening to and participating in hearsay, speculation, opinions, and conjecture, then YOU are too. I will say this, since Prince is gone and he cannot authenticate anything Mayte said in her book, then all she said can be viewed as BS.

I know what you're doing here, trying to start a fight so that this thread gets removed.

~azz kisser

purplegirl00 said:

NotACleverName said:

purplegirl00 said: No, there is absolutely NO hard evidence anywhere of a continuous connection between Prince and Vanity. It is all in your head and that is all. It is very interesting how you are saying you will believe what comes out of Vanity's mouth....basically her memories....but Mayte does not get the same respect. And, aamof, Prince and Mayte had conversations over the phone in the ensuing years after the divorce. He did invite her to a Vegas show for her birthday and during that show he made a point to go into the audience to show his love for her. He would have been shattered over the death of any one of his former proteges, girlfriends, wives. As I said before, when he was in love, he was ALL IN. When he was done, he was out. He may have had residual love in the form of fondness but no way did he desire to get back with Vanity/Denise. We all know Denise turned her life over to Christ. People do this. Every. Single. Day. It does not make her a martyr. She was always a child of God (as I believe we all are), she simply began to recognize that and share it in a public forum. You are truly fooling yourself if you think Prince and Vanity were soul mates who did not get to realize the destiny of their hearts. As for TOB'S evidence....Prince's writings, etc.? I will believe it when someone authenticates it. Until then, it's hearsay, speculation, opinions, conjucture. Take your pick.

It's not ALL in my head. There are plenty of threads on this forum, going back years, with information, even before TOB posted a single thing.

Have you listened to the P & M concerts and Prince mourn Denise publicly? I doubt it. Otherwise you wouldn't be saying what you're saying. Somehow, I just had a dejavu that I suggested that you listen to those, once before.

NO, Mayte does NOT get the same respect as Denise because she finished her book AFTER Prince died. He could not refute or dispute anything she put in her book. Denise didn't throw Prince under the bus in her book, like Mayte has. Plus, Denise has nothing to gain; she is gone from this world. Meanwhile, Mayte is garnering sympathy, exacting revenge, and making $$$ all on the anniversary of his death. Is that what you do when you love and respect someone? I DON’T THINK SO.

I never said Denise was a martyr, so don't put words into my mouth. I said that their lives were INCOMPATIBLE and perhaps that is why there was not reconciliation. Besides which, how would you know that Prince didn't want reconciliation with Denise? Were you in his head? I think not. Do you have proof? I would like to see it- straight from his mouth. I also NEVER said that Prince and Denise were soulmates, I just said that it's possible to love someone (each other) and not be in the same physical space. I don't subscribe to that "soulmate" bullsh*t like some of you do.

There is NO proof that Prince stayed in touch with Mayte like that. If I am guilty of listening to and participating in hearsay, speculation, opinions, and conjecture, then YOU are too. I will say this, since Prince is gone and he cannot authenticate anything Mayte said in her book, then all she said can be viewed as BS.

I know what you're doing here, trying to start a fight so that this thread gets removed.

~azz kisser

NotACleverName,

I am puzzled as to why you cannot fathom Prince being friends with Denise over the years? Purple Rain is what catapulted Prince into mega-international stardom and that was their vehicle, their story.

Peeps tend to have fond memories of something like that and man times in concert Prince referred to the 80s as the good old days . I am baffled as to why you insist that no way would Prince be in any relationship with Vanity. I would imagine they kept in touch , all of them - Morris, Jerome, Jill, Apples, Susan, Brends, Jamie Shoop. They were there when things got white hot and they became household names . No other band or time with Prince ever touched them. Like it or not that is documented fact.

I would love to know why you think it is impossible for Prince to be in contact with Vanity.

Purplegirl00 was not lying he did pay tribute in more than one concert asking God to bring her back to him and sometimes singing you left me . . . you left me- it is heartbreaking. I do not know the context of the connection but it was there. It is not meant to offend it is matter of fact. People are allowed to have friends over the years despite meeting new peeps and new relationships.

M1, has a place in Prince's life but it does not discount others there before or after her or what is true. Her book is not in the same vein as Blame It On Vanity. Denise honestly took ownership of her life and told of her life not her life with Prince; and her book cover had nothing to do with Prince. She did not try to use him or her connection with him for book sales or go on a media blitzes speaking of him as if they never broke up. Just saying you cannot say it is the same. M1 is marketing Prince - during the 1 yr anniversary and saying not nice things. It is fine but it is not loving or respecting him. Denise did not do that, she respected her friend and what he stood for and their collaboration meant to posterioty years after they were not together. She understood their place in history. She was wise.

anangellooksdown said:

NotACleverName said:

No, he wasn't. This was a ruse and debunked by Deborah as told by Nikki Sixx in his book. He states that she "sent them to herself to f**k with his head". He also wrote that she "had plenty of ways to do it" (the "it" as a descriptor of f******g with his head). You can read it right here: https://books.google.com/...mp;f=false There are also a few other interesting stories he shares!

Aren't girls something! I saw that card elsewhere once. That was 1987. What I read was that in the early 90s he asked her back. It seemed like legit sources but I can't remember where this past year I read it. I've thought about this too, and I don't think Prince tried to get back with her after his first marriage. But I do think that while she moved on to be Denise, he always missed Vanity. And I think he cared about her as a person because she was one of "his".

I think that Prince and Vanity/Denise remained friends all their lives. I do not get why it upsets people and why the denial.

No one is saying they were lovers. I think they were twin flames. Twin flames are not always lovers.

You have to not always think of Prince as a horny man. He changed and so did she and they paralleled. He mourned someone close and as was mentioned on this board not someone from 30 years ago.

Why the mere thought of it offends boggles the my mind.

NotACleverName said:

luvgirl said:

NotACleverName said:

No, there is absolutely NO hard evidence anywhere of a continuous connection between Prince and Vanity. It is all in your head and that is all. It is very interesting how you are saying you will believe what comes out of Vanity's mouth....basically her memories....but Mayte does not get the same respect. And, aamof, Prince and Mayte had conversations over the phone in the ensuing years after the divorce. He did invite her to a Vegas show for her birthday and during that show he made a point to go into the audience to show his love for her. He would have been shattered over the death of any one of his former proteges, girlfriends, wives. As I said before, when he was in love, he was ALL IN. When he was done, he was out. He may have had residual love in the form of fondness but no way did he desire to get back with Vanity/Denise. We all know Denise turned her life over to Christ. People do this. Every. Single. Day. It does not make her a martyr. She was always a child of God (as I believe we all are), she simply began to recognize that and share it in a public forum. You are truly fooling yourself if you think Prince and Vanity were soul mates who did not get to realize the destiny of their hearts. As for TOB'S evidence....Prince's writings, etc.? I will believe it when someone authenticates it. Until then, it's hearsay, speculation, opinions, conjucture. Take your pick.

Prince April 14 2016: "You don't know anything about me" You sound so sure Clever. But you contradict yourself. You speculate your claims just like the rest of us here on Prince.org. You say, "You are truly fooling yourself if you think Prince and Vanity were soul mates who did not get to realize the destiny of their hearts." But yet I have no doubt you feel that Myte and Prince were soulmates, yes? LauraRichardson has mentioned that Jill Jones said Vanity was the love of Prince's life. Jill Jones was there, and had no reason to lie as she was also one of Prince's girls... but you, who were not there, quickly pointed out, "That doesn't make it true" But yet you have no problem taking the things said in Mayte's book as gospel? Well then, the words you read in Mayte's book that justify your clause doesn't make it true as well. In the new thread about the book "Blame it on Vanity", you quickly swooped in to state that there is no need to involve Vanity in any of this as she was of no significance, and frankly you had no interest in her book, after making sure to state that she basically would have been nothing without Prince. My point is this, it's obvious you are an advocate for Myte and do not think highly of Vanity. I doubt that you are unbiased enough to open your rationale to a thought that is beyond Myte. Why attack everyone who wants to think that Prince and Vanity were soulmates? You come off so aggressively at the thought... [Edited 4/10/17 20:13pm]

Hi Luvgirl,

Those P&M concerts were very telling and he said much yet what came out of his mouth is being debated as not true.

The death of Vanity DEFINITELY hurt Prince's heart

Vashtix said:

purplegirl00 said:

It's not ALL in my head. There are plenty of threads on this forum, going back years, with information, even before TOB posted a single thing.

Have you listened to the P & M concerts and Prince mourn Denise publicly? I doubt it. Otherwise you wouldn't be saying what you're saying. Somehow, I just had a dejavu that I suggested that you listen to those, once before.

NO, Mayte does NOT get the same respect as Denise because she finished her book AFTER Prince died. He could not refute or dispute anything she put in her book. Denise didn't throw Prince under the bus in her book, like Mayte has. Plus, Denise has nothing to gain; she is gone from this world. Meanwhile, Mayte is garnering sympathy, exacting revenge, and making $$$ all on the anniversary of his death. Is that what you do when you love and respect someone? I DON’T THINK SO.

I never said Denise was a martyr, so don't put words into my mouth. I said that their lives were INCOMPATIBLE and perhaps that is why there was not reconciliation. Besides which, how would you know that Prince didn't want reconciliation with Denise? Were you in his head? I think not. Do you have proof? I would like to see it- straight from his mouth. I also NEVER said that Prince and Denise were soulmates, I just said that it's possible to love someone (each other) and not be in the same physical space. I don't subscribe to that "soulmate" bullsh*t like some of you do.

There is NO proof that Prince stayed in touch with Mayte like that. If I am guilty of listening to and participating in hearsay, speculation, opinions, and conjecture, then YOU are too. I will say this, since Prince is gone and he cannot authenticate anything Mayte said in her book, then all she said can be viewed as BS.

I know what you're doing here, trying to start a fight so that this thread gets removed.

~azz kisser

NotACleverName,

I am puzzled as to why you cannot fathom Prince being friends with Denise over the years? Purple Rain is what catapulted Prince into mega-international stardom and that was their vehicle, their story.

Peeps tend to have fond memories of something like that and man times in concert Prince referred to the 80s as the good old days . I am baffled as to why you insist that no way would Prince be in any relationship with Vanity. I would imagine they kept in touch , all of them - Morris, Jerome, Jill, Apples, Susan, Brends, Jamie Shoop. They were there when things got white hot and they became household names . No other band or time with Prince ever touched them. Like it or not that is documented fact.

I would love to know why you think it is impossible for Prince to be in contact with Vanity.

Purplegirl00 was not lying he did pay tribute in more than one concert asking God to bring her back to him and sometimes singing you left me . . . you left me- it is heartbreaking. I do not know the context of the connection but it was there. It is not meant to offend it is matter of fact. People are allowed to have friends over the years despite meeting new peeps and new relationships.

M1, has a place in Prince's life but it does not discount others there before or after her or what is true. Her book is not in the same vein as Blame It On Vanity. Denise honestly took ownership of her life and told of her life not her life with Prince; and her book cover had nothing to do with Prince. She did not try to use him or her connection with him for book sales or go on a media blitzes speaking of him as if they never broke up. Just saying you cannot say it is the same. M1 is marketing Prince - during the 1 yr anniversary and saying not nice things. It is fine but it is not loving or respecting him. Denise did not do that, she respected her friend and what he stood for and their collaboration meant to posterioty years after they were not together. She understood their place in history. She was wise.

That's right. Purple Rain is what put Prince on the global stage and all of the people around him in that era, were part of that historical moment. Though Vanity had left him by then, her mark was still left since she had part in writing the script/ dialogue and the story line was semi-autobiographical about them.

luvgirl said:

NotACleverName said:

No, there is absolutely NO hard evidence anywhere of a continuous connection between Prince and Vanity. It is all in your head and that is all. It is very interesting how you are saying you will believe what comes out of Vanity's mouth....basically her memories....but Mayte does not get the same respect. And, aamof, Prince and Mayte had conversations over the phone in the ensuing years after the divorce. He did invite her to a Vegas show for her birthday and during that show he made a point to go into the audience to show his love for her. He would have been shattered over the death of any one of his former proteges, girlfriends, wives. As I said before, when he was in love, he was ALL IN. When he was done, he was out. He may have had residual love in the form of fondness but no way did he desire to get back with Vanity/Denise. We all know Denise turned her life over to Christ. People do this. Every. Single. Day. It does not make her a martyr. She was always a child of God (as I believe we all are), she simply began to recognize that and share it in a public forum. You are truly fooling yourself if you think Prince and Vanity were soul mates who did not get to realize the destiny of their hearts. As for TOB'S evidence....Prince's writings, etc.? I will believe it when someone authenticates it. Until then, it's hearsay, speculation, opinions, conjucture. Take your pick.

Prince April 14 2016: "You don't know anything about me" You sound so sure Clever. But you contradict yourself. You speculate your claims just like the rest of us here on Prince.org. You say, "You are truly fooling yourself if you think Prince and Vanity were soul mates who did not get to realize the destiny of their hearts." But yet I have no doubt you feel that Mayte and Prince were soulmates, yes? LauraRichardson has mentioned that Jill Jones said Vanity was the love of Prince's life. Jill Jones was there, and had no reason to lie as she was also one of Prince's girls... but you, who were not there, quickly pointed out, "That doesn't make it true" But yet you have no problem taking the things said in Mayte's book as gospel? Well then, the words you read in Mayte's book that justify your clause doesn't make it true as well. In the new thread about the book "Blame it on Vanity", you quickly swooped in to state that there is no need to involve Vanity in any of this as she was of little significance, and frankly you had no interest in her book, after making sure to state that she basically would have been nothing without Prince. My point is this, it's obvious you are an advocate for Mayte and do not think highly of Vanity. I doubt that you are unbiased enough to open your rationale to any women that is beyond Mayte. Why attack everyone who wants to think that Prince and Vanity were soulmates? You come off so aggressively at the thought... [Edited 4/10/17 20:23pm]

THANK YOU! I completely agree. I never said they were soulmates so I have no idea where that came from. I made a statement that people could love each other and not be "together". She drew up her own conclusion, putting words into my mouth.

purplegirl00 said:

morningsong said:

morningsong said:

pnv said:

pnv said:

purplegirl00 said:

He had the money and means to make a GRAND proposal- including flying to Spain to get on one knee. Prince was the master romancer/ seducer. By the way she described it in the book, he sounded sick and down. The whole thing was spontaneous and unplanned.

[Edited 4/9/17 19:14pm]

Yes exactly, I think a lot of his emotional pain at that time came from this(Vanity marrying someone else) I feel as though he never would have married M1. After being married a few months, Prince suffered a near overdose. A time that should have been one of his happiest. But instead he end up in the hospital. Prince an absolute genius musically speaking that is. But I also believe a vulnerable sensitive being. [Edited 4/9/17 19:35pm]

He was also going through that stuff with Warner Bros. as well. That had a major part in his state of mind during that same time period. He lost a lot of weight during that time as well.

purplegirl00 said:

pnv said:

When he released Greatest Romance I believed he was talking about Vanity. At that time frame her book was suppose to be released. But it was put on hold. I remember Prince did a remix for the song it was The Greatest Romance THAT NEVER BEEN SOLD. This song was all Vanity!!!

That would be an interesting remix to hear. I know "Eye Hate U" extended remix is completely different than the original album version (which was said to have been written for Carmen), but and he mentions "my little nasty lady" and "my little nasty miss". Vanity was "nasty girl". Might not mean anything, but his use of "nasty" has made me wonder. I think it was released in summer of 1995. [Edited 4/11/17 10:06am]

According to Carmen that song is about her because he belived she was cheating on him which she said was not true. She said he even flew to Minneapolis from LA to listen to the song and let her know face to face.

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:

Prince public announcement of annulment I believe was based on why people get annulled in the first place.

Bigamy - either party was already married to another person at the time of the marriage

Forced Consent - one of the spouses was forced or threatened into marriage and only entered into it under duress

Fraud - one of the spouses agreed to the marriage based on the lies or misrepresentation of the other

Marriage Prohibited By Law - marriage between parties that based on their familial relationship is considered incestuous

Mental Illness - either spouse was mentally ill or emotionally disturbed at the time of the marriage

Mental Incapacity - either spouse was under the influence of alcohol or drugs at the time of the marriage and was unable to make informed consent

Inability to Consummate Marriage - either spouse was physically incapable of having sexual relations or impotent during the marriage

Underage Marriage - either spouse was too young to enter into marriage without parental consent or court approval

Given he behavior following that, I'm going with he was publically stating his marriage was based on fraud, in his mind.

Then he follows up with "The Greatest Romance That's Ever Been Sold" I think it's obvious his state of mind.

It wasn't about what was legal, it was a declaration to the world. Why?

-------- I keep wondering if he asked her to marrying him while he was in Spain because he thought she was pregnant. Could it be in his mind fraud? Or did he think she was just with him for money and not love. He got her to sign it but still would have to prove fraud which he would not have been able to do so it then went to divorce. I do not remember him holding a press conference to announce the divorce so that had to be his plan two. [Edited 4/11/17 5:30am]

I'm sure he spun it in his mind into something bigger than it was, either on his own or with the help of others. They needed serious counselling and not the armchair kind either because there were obviously expectations that didn't pan out, dreams shattered in less than a year and no 'known to them' common foundation to pick up the pieces and build from. They didn't even have enough time to go through the honeymoon portion of their marriage let alone getting a chance to know each other. And not their pastlives selfs either, the here and now selves.

laurarichardson said:

purplegirl00 said:

pnv said: That would be an interesting remix to hear. I know "Eye Hate U" extended remix is completely different than the original album version (which was said to have been written for Carmen), but and he mentions "my little nasty lady" and "my little nasty miss". Vanity was "nasty girl". Might not mean anything, but his use of "nasty" has made me wonder. I think it was released in summer of 1995. [Edited 4/11/17 10:06am]

According to Carmen that song is about her because he belived she was cheating on him which she said was not true. She said he even flew to Minneapolis from LA to listen to the song and let her know face to face.

I had read that it was about her but I didn't know he went through all that to let her know. I like Carmen and until last year, I had no idea she got her start with Prince.

purplegirl00 said:

laurarichardson said:

According to Carmen that song is about her because he belived she was cheating on him which she said was not true. She said he even flew to Minneapolis from LA to listen to the song and let her know face to face.

I had read that it was about her but I didn't know he went through all that to let her know. I like Carmen and until last year, I had no idea she got her start with Prince.

I like Carmen too because she really did not use Prince- I would have never known she started with Prince. She never threw it out there and still does not. She has her own Brand that is all her.

Vashtix said:

Vashtix said:

luvgirl said:

Vashtix said:

I like Carmen too because she really did not use Prince- I would have never known she started with Prince. She never threw it out there and still does not. She has her own Brand that is all her.

Hey Vashtix, here's a really great line by Carmen Electra herself... I happen to think this is the one that "says it all..." "I always felt like they're soulmates. It's so interesting that they both passed at 57." ET: by Sophie Schillaci April 26, 2016 After meeting in 1991, Electra was rumored to have been romantically involved with her mentor. But speaking with her after his death, she believed that another woman was his true soulmate. "I know 'Purple Rain' is about Vanity. She left, so she wasn't in the movie, but she was supposed to be the lead role in the movie," Electra said of the Vanity 6 lead singer, whose real name was Denise Matthews and was another one of Prince’s great loves. "I always felt like they're soulmates. It's so interesting that they both passed at 57." [Edited 4/11/17 19:47pm]

I think that is why a certain ex crossed her off from attending a memorial for Prince. Petty gesture.

Carmen is in her lane and not too concerned publicly with anyone elses

[Edited 4/11/17 20:12pm]

Vashtix said:

luvgirl said:

Vashtix said:

I think that is why a certain ex crossed her off from attending a memorial for Prince. Petty gesture.

Carmen is in her lane and not to concerned publicly with anyone elses

Vashtix and luvgirl: It was reports about P and Nona getting married that interfered with P's effort to get back with Denise. That may also explain why P treated Nona the way he did. Here is one such report.

IS EX-PRINCE PLANNING TO WED?

Scripps Howard News Service

Published: Oct. 3, 1994 12:00 a.m.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/379083/IS-EX-PRINCE-PLANNING-TO-WED.html

Here is P with Nona at the 1994 Versace Fashion Show: https://s-media-cache-ak0...82114a.jpg

bibrose said: